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Join Brent as he does his first watch of the Babylon 5 Season episode, "The Wheel of Fire." In this one, Garibaldi gets caught, Lockley shows why she is the best person for the job, Lyta shows her true colors, and 90's fashion is awful. So join Brent as he dives into his first watch of this episode.
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@XStylus 20 дней назад

In the final chapter of JMS's biography he takes a moment to speak of those who we have lost. He had quite a bit to say about Jerry Doyle, Jeff Conaway, and Michael O'Hare's struggles, particularly about how JMS would indirectly speak to the actors via his scripts, both in good ways and in critical ways. Though in Season 5, JMS had quite a few critical things to say to the first two.

@hornorsilk2901 20 дней назад

I always love Sheridan's surprise for Lyta.

@lelandtankersley4454 20 дней назад

The Wheel of Fire is a quote from King Lear: "But I am bound upon a wheel of fire, that mine own tears do scald like molten lead," and comes from Greek myth where a man was punished for offending the gods by being bound to a wheel of fire. It refers to the consequences arising from one's actions, which is pretty on-point for this episode and the season as a whole.

@Chetverikov 20 дней назад

There's also the eastern tradition, where the wheel of fire is a metaphor for the ever-changing yet also circular flow of life.

@lionofhighpark 20 дней назад

Which is of course why "The Wheel of Fire" is the overall title for Season 5. It's totally been the theme of the season, despite it's rough patches.

@sharkdentures3247 20 дней назад

I thought it was always cool how Sheridan is the ONLY one "immune" to Lyta's "influence". (And I can accept the rational behind it) An angry Redhead with the power of a telepathic NUKE?!? Yeah, forget the Shadows. . .THAT is SCARY!

@hornorsilk2901 20 дней назад

in my mind, Sheridan is also another tactical nuke, but of a different kind than a telepath kind, so he is on her level.... which is why, though she knows she can't be held, she knows she can't challenge Sheridan the same way

@Matej_Sojka 20 дней назад

Lyta did not deserve the treatment she got. But this episode shows clearly why Sheridan kept her at arms length for so long. He identified her as a powerful loose cannon early, and her trigering the Za'ha'dum self destruct did not help her case. So he was ready for her to go bad. I still think he could have handled it better but unlike many other fans I did not think this was uncalled for or came out of nowhere.

@lennyvalentin6485 19 дней назад

It's the old "absolute power corrupts absolutely" thing. Generally speaking, humans handle having loads of power over people really really badly. I don't know if I'd call this Lyta going bad; she's been treated pretty crap ever since the end of the shadow war, she has plenty of reasons to be pissed. If that justifies remote controlling dozens of people without asking permission just to make a point to Lockley and her goonsquad retinue - well, no. Probably not. But we're emotional creatures, and she boiled over at that instance. It's understandable, even if it isn't necessarily condonable.

@gerstelb 20 дней назад

The thing is, Lyta goes pretty dark, definitely, but she’s not really *evil* . Not in the nasty, selfish way Bester is, and she’s far more sympathetic than, say, Londo when he falls to the temptation of the Shadows. She’s been backed into corners far too many times, been used too much and given too much, and she’s finally just had it. Did she go too far with that scene in the Zocalo, yes. Do I blame her for being royally cheesed off, no.

@Tilion462 19 дней назад

Agreed, she's had to deal with A LOT and just isn't gonna take any more, doesn't mean she's evil per se (especially compared to the poor poor put-upon souls of the Psi Corps)! It was a bit much perhaps, but I always thought she was rather restrained in her response. When you consider Lyta was just a P5 but she's somewhere around P30 now - if the scale is linear, she's just super-powerful, if it's exponential? Literally any stronger and she'd be 'Jason Ironheart-ing' all over the place! There's no doubt she could have had an effect on the command crew, but maybe she was worried about letting go and maybe lobotomizing somebody? And as you say, she's gone pretty dark, but not truly 'evil'.

@this.is.a.username 18 дней назад

Lyta has to watch other societies accept and even celebrate their telepaths while her people are treated like refuse. It's understandable.

@Kruhn 20 дней назад

I had a supervisor who used the "I'm disappointed in you" routine like Sheridan. That hurt more than having her screaming and shouting at me.

@MatthewStephensAU 20 дней назад

1:57 One thing I always wondered: Why didn't Sheridan put it together, about the 'Keepers' he saw in War Without End, and the Centauri war. Here's the answer: When he tried to follow up the possibility that the Centauri were set up... His intelligence man was drunk.

@jasongorkisch 20 дней назад

I think what makes Evil Lyta so awesome is we've seen her growth from being someone who can't afford housing to a major weapon to someone, like G'kar, who has been called to more. Only the crew, and we, still remember soft, gentle Lyta - we don't feel what she's felt and where she is now. I think we end up with people we know like that, who go darker and darker and often we just think they can snap out of it but they're too far gone.

@tyranusfan 20 дней назад

One of my favorite Lyta moments comes during her talk with Garibaldi. He asks her for help, and she obviously scans his thoughts, and for a moment she misinterprets him and her angry expression drops, and she sadly says "I can't remove an addiction, Michael." For all her resentment, she still has some feeling of friendship with him and feels remorse for his problem.

@dcsignal5241 20 дней назад

A really dense episode so you're forgiven for missing out the best scene.

@la_scrittice_vita 20 дней назад

Re what Sheridan knew from WWE, I think his memories may have been a bit garbled after being unstuck in time. Sam Beckett swiss cheese, if you will. Hence why Delenn "never really believed" what he told her until she lived it.

@AdamCollings 17 дней назад

* Delenn: *faints* * Brent: Haha! * Me: He knows! * Brent: I know! * Me: Yep. He knows. LOL

@chrisharris9643 20 дней назад

My favorite Lyta episode. She goes full on Phoenix in this 😊

@brentallenlive 18 дней назад

Phoenix Lyta is the best Lyta

@Karthos1000 20 дней назад

Wheel of Fire was the name of the fifth season. JMS said he would have preferred the previous episode "The Fall of Centauri Prime" as the name of the season, but that would be a case for Admiral OWA Giveaway.

@CaptFalcone 20 дней назад

It's scary we're already at the end.

@joeychicago6436 20 дней назад

"What do you want?" . A simple question, that lead Londo to a HORRIBLE fate. After everything we went through with Londo, all we can do is pity him now, what a fate for a complex character.

@Klaital1 20 дней назад

The best part is, everyone who Morden asked that question from, got exactly what they wanted, but the only one who was actually happy with it, was Vir.

@michaelriddick7116 20 дней назад

I love Patricia Tallman in this episode :) 💘💗🥰🥰🥰🥰😁

@wanderingthedesert5599 20 дней назад

two more proper episodes of Season 5, then Series Finale! I'm going to miss these "For the First Time" segments, provided you guys don't include all of the movies and Crusade. I do have a question though. At what point will we be able to address any lingering questions? Are you guys planning on reading through the books at all? (The three book trilogies are based off of JMS outlines and thus 100% canon, with at least Books 9 and 10 of the original single volumes being canon). Book 9 is "The Shadow Within" and Book 10 is "To Dream in the City of Sorrows". I won't really get into what each book or trilogies are about because they would still contain spoilers.... even for the remaining three episodes, movies, and Crusade, but they are worth the read, IMO.

@brentallenlive 18 дней назад

So once we hit the series finale, we’ll do a season 5 wrap up. Then, in some order, we’ll hit the movies, we’ll hit crusade, and we’ll hit JMS’s autobiography. Then we start with B5FT2T where we go back through the series looking for all the stuff we missed, all the connections, all the brilliant writing. The no-spoilers rule will obviously be lifted and that’s when we want it all, everything you got. We have no plans to do the books, so if there’s info there, tell us then.

@lennyvalentin6485 19 дней назад

It's so sad to see Garibaldi here getting help and finding new meaning in his life after so much pain and suffering, and in real life he (Jerry Doyle) succumbed due to alcoholism-related reasons... :( Jeff Conaway too, by the way. Drugs and alcohol has been a terrible bane for so many people.

@hornorsilk2901 20 дней назад

" wheel of fire may refer to the chain of tortuous or dire consequences that result from a single action."

@garycallan7384 17 дней назад

Franklin got Krishna. Please take this flower.......

@MrFaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 20 дней назад

Lyta is so cool

@timamherst-clark2699 19 дней назад

I wonder if Gkar's middle name is Brian?

@babybalrog 17 дней назад

You've been complaining fora season and ou cut the part where G'Kar just "walks by an office with no door", 2x this season!

@tjtenser7828 17 дней назад

Lyta is not evil - she's just a woman who's taken too much crap and why is it only Franklin can see what she's gone through and understand her pain? Answer - because he's actually one of the most human characters in the series and has been out there himself on the edge. I totally stand behind her and completely understand her motivations especially after all the times she's been used.

@rodentnolastname6612 20 дней назад

Damn this is going by fast...

@rafetizer 19 дней назад

Brent you're really good at predicting this show. Are you a pre-cog?

@lennyvalentin6485 19 дней назад

Tbh, he's made some stinker predictions too over these past seasons... :)

@brentallenlive 18 дней назад

@@lennyvalentin6485were they stinkers? Or were they on purpose simply to throw you off the pre-cog track?

@brentallenlive 18 дней назад

I’m a time traveler

@lennyvalentin6485 18 дней назад

@@brentallenlive That's an interesting thought that bears investigation... :)

@philmarston9078 20 дней назад

8:40 Sheridan has been touched by Vorlons. Lyta really miscalculated.

@hornorsilk2901 18 дней назад

I actually say Sheridan, though not a telepathic "nuke," was another Vorlon nuke ---and she would not be able to touch him the same way because of it. I think she knows it more than he does, however.

@brentallenlive 18 дней назад

Sheridan had been touched. Lyta was a whole lot more than just touched.

@hornorsilk2901 18 дней назад

@@brentallenlive so has Sheridan -- remember, he was being trained by Kosh, and that allowed him to hold Kosh's consciousness inside himself, among other things; that training made him more than merely touched, but he was himself another one of those weapons (imo)