Terry Rawlings talks to Pete Mitchell at Absolute Radio about his book 'Who Killed Christopher Robin- Brian Jones- The Final Truth' Purchase a signed copy here: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/095764962... / 549065741795499
Complete fabrication. There is no test for chlorine at an autopsy. The native state of chlorine is a gas and by the time the autopsy was performed any tiny amount of chlorine would have evaporated anyway.The autopsy notation of fresh water in his mouth is to differentiate that it was not sea water. Standard test in drowning cases in England. Although it was at first believed that he did drown, because he was found at the bottom of his pool, Jones did not drown however. There was not enough of ANY water in his airway to accurately designate it as a drowning. That is why the COD was changed to "death by misadventure". Most likely Jones passed out in the comfortably heated pool and he stopped breathing till his heart stopped. The "misadventure" refers to the toxicology report separate from the autopsy where twenty times a normal dose of amphetamine was found in the form of residue in his bladder and his blood alcohol indicated that he had the equivalent of seven shots of whiskey. Typical of Jones's drug habits in that time frame Jones would go on an amphetamine binge combined with LSD sometimes for days then he would self medicate with alcohol to bring himself down. This time he came down in his pool, passed out, stopped breathing and sank to the bottom . Not a mystery. The knee jerk reaction of the press whenever somebody young and famous dies is the salacious question of who killed them. It sells newspapers and books.
He may not have put chlorine in the pool. Pool tech in 1969 was primative. You have to go to a pool supply store and buy huge tablets and throw them in the pool. Many people would just drain the water out of the pool then refill it for a fresh swim.
Friction more between Brian and Keith than between he and Mick, I would say, due to Keith stealing his g/f Anita Pallenberg away from him. Jagger and Richards were slowly edging him out, as they were the songwriting team and Jones not a songwriter, though a talented multi-instrumentalist. Any way you slice it, his ousting was a huge injustice to Brian, who conceived the band. Moreover, with him out of the picture, the Stones could then (by summer '69) tour the States unimpeded, which they were prevented from doing due to Brian's drug charges. Means? Motive? Opportunity? You bet...
These things weren't enough for Mick and Keith to want Brian dead. Brian found girlfriends easy. Anita was better suited with Keith, they both fire signs whereas Anita with Brian were Fire and Water. Keith took Anita away from Brian after apparent violence. Mick was signed up for Australia to film Ned Kelly around the time of Brian's death, America wasn't really the issue at that moment. Something else going on.
I think it's funny that they could've hired someone to play Brian's part just for the tour, giving Brian time to recoup. They just used the drug charge as an excuse. Now, 25 percent of the band is made up of hired hands😂
You’re right, just listen to « Get a line on you » first version of Shine a light, Jagger composition 1968, he was talking about Brian before his death, great sorry lyrics.
Brian truly was the magic of The Rolling Stones. Mick Taylor was musically their best guitarist but Brian was Brian and he was special. The Stones have never been the same without him. Musically they were left rather barren without Mick Taylor as well.
Are you joking tho both great musicians its the songwriting og keef and Mick that make s the Rolling Stones brian and Mick just sparkled over the great songs
@@condensedsleep3936 Okay but I think their music has stood the test of time. Angie.. I'll just single out. Brian couldn't write. Their best period was after his demise but it's just a matter of opinion. No doubt about his musical instrumental prowess. Apparently not a nice person. He was articulate and had a superb IQ. I've looked at all aspects of his death; over the years. He may have got into an argument; with the builder. (Charlie said he was quite like that) This may have led to horseplay; and tragedy. I don't think it was meant to be murder. They were all pissed and stoned; the guests. I don't think Brian was....he may have had an asthma attack, through stress; whilst the others returned to the house.
@@Arya-1111 The toxicology report and autopsy tell avery different story. Jones's Liver was diseased and swollen to twice it's normal size from a decade of drug and alcohol abuse, His heart was also grossly enlarged and diseased. His lungs were emphosemimic and asthmatic from over a decade of chain smoking tobacco and drugs non stop. Jones was clearly killing himself and he had to know it. In the weeks and months before his death Jones showed no sign of letting up or mitigating his heavy drug and alcohol habits...
This is a strange interview. Terry seems to get close to the bottom of what really happened and the real reasons for the murder, but then falls back on the silly story about the builders not being paid. Both he and the interviewer seem frightened of getting to the real truth. What I’ve always heard is that Alan Klein was behind it and Tom Keylock (whose brother was a cop…wink, wink) was involved that night. Brian legally owned the rights to the Rolling Stones name, and they didn’t like that. Too much money at stake. Always follow the money to know what really goes down with most of these types of things. All the stories about the builders killing him because he hadn’t paid them for their work or they were jealous or whatever is just pathetic obvious cover story bullshit. The real question that interests me is did the rest of the band know what was going to happen with Brian. There have been conflicting stories so it’s hard to say for sure. I’ll say this…even if they knew or were somehow involved they’re too big to fail if you know what I mean. It likely will never come out. Not in their lifetimes at least.
Alot of kids in here that don't know their facts!!!! Mick Taylor, left the band on his own, to form The pretty Things!!!!!! Then later when years went by.. Mick Taylor, admitted leaving the Stones, was a huge mistake....
MICK TAYLOR LEFT AS THEY GAVE HIM NO CREDIT FOR SONGWRITING ETC JUST LIKE THEY GAVE NO CREDIT TO BRIAN..MOST OF WHAT MICK AND kEITH SAY IS A LIE THEY ARE GUILTY AS
Looking back at the Stone the media always asks either Mick or Keith regarding Brian's contribution in his last album, "Beggar's Banquet." Of coarse they say that he didn't help in any way because he was to stoned on drugs. I think one of the main problems within the group was caused by Keith. Regardless how, Keith stole band-mate Brian's Brian's girlfriend Anita Pallenberg. You have to realize what this did to Brian. Brian gave Keith his first few guitars. They were very close. Then Keith takes what Brian loves the most, his girl. At this point Brian was in depression doing drugs to keep him numb. Later Keith felt the pain too when Mick and Anita were in the same movie. The movie Performance was so racy. The opening sequence alone was too much for many in the audience. A Rolls-Royce drives through bucolic English countryside, intercut with flashes of writhing naked bodies indulging in the roughest of sex. There were cries of horror as the film continued, with more wild sex and graphic violence, and one woman was so shaken she vomited into her handbag. Another member of the audience stood up and shouted 'Are you all going to sit here and watch this trash?' before storming out. This was Mick with Keith's girl now, in the movie. What Keith did was write a song about his pain "You got the Silver." He too went deep into drugs.
Anybody talking about Keith stealing someone else's girl....what does that say about the girl? Does it not take two? How is only Keith to blame here? The girl has no power to say"no"?
@@candelise He should say no. But it's Brian's fault too. I heard that he was meant to her, maybe even hit her. Brian's mental state went to shit right after he got arrested too. Anita and Keith were a good pair, too good. They were enable each others drug habit. I like what Brian gave to the group. I think that it wasn't a Stone that made them the greatest rock band ever. Jimmy Miller did that. Some people say M. Taylor did that. Mick wasn't there for "Beggars Banquet." Jimmy even played on some of the Stones songs. I heard a quote from John Lennon. He said that the Stones were always ripping off of the Beatles. Even their LP title. The Stone had Let it Bleed while the Beatles Had Let it Be. BUT, Let it Bleed came out 7 month's earlier than Let it Be.
@@larryfisher8332 With respect, there is a little vearing off the point here with old, established news. The point of making, as someone did, about Brian and his demise cannot be put down to just one person. Again, it takes two.
@@candelise Maybe she should have hit Brian back? Lets stop! I like Brian, and what he brought to the Stones. I heard somewhere that he actually gave Keith his first guitar. It was probably his first "real" guitar. I also heard that he gave him his second. Those two used to be tight. Drugs changed Brian a lot. Charlie said, "Drugs wasn't good for Brian. Well, they're not good for anybody really." He also said that Brian wasn't a really nice person when he was doing drugs. He became mean. He was a very sweet guy. With the 100 kids that he let, he must have been a nice guy. He wasn't the greatest guitarist. However, he could pick up any instrument and play it. I love the way he played the flute at the beginning of Ruby Tuesday.
Like Glen Frey of the eagles denying us 13 years of great music by being a bully, Mick no good either by what he did with Taylor, AND BRIAN. I hate these people.
@@jojo6028 no 😂 I'm born 70 years ago and don't repeat stuff I haven't seen with my own eyes. Saw the Stones plenty of times late sixties early seventies never saw any bullying. Maybe you new them personally that's the only way you could come up with your comments but then you would have been too young I think
The name off Brians Girlfrien was Anna Wohlin from Sweden😮buth she is also deadin this time.I write her name was Eva wrong😢and Brian was hit in the neck??So he couldent have lay on the bottom off the pool with her face in the bottom off the pool and someone hit him in the neck why did they not go on with that the investigation??😢😢😢Ofcourse he get murded😢😢😢
He couldn't write songs , then stopped playing the guitar, wife beater , he couldn't handle being a pop star, the only thing he did that of any note on Beggars was slide on No expectations . He died 3 weeks after he got sacked.
He wasn't a wife beater. Him and Anita had a volatile relation because she acted like man. Look at her style and demeanor when she was with Keith. She tried to carry herself like one
Thorogod say he murded Brian before Thorogod die for some year ago😢and i think that is the true he hit him in the back and trow Brian inthe pool he hade take a lot off drog so he was off😢😢❤and Ewa his girlfrien say all this buth she take drogs to.And in the day was Keith there with Mick Jagger and hit Brian inthe face😢so they have a fight between itch othet.Think Keith and Mick now what happen woth Brian and Thorogod was invold in this..😢😢Buth they keep this like their secress I thinking we never get the true..He was murded off Thorogod and then he trow Brian in the pool so everybody should think he drown..No no😢😢they lie about it.They now what happen..😢😢😢
Ther apparently were no lines Brian would not cross when it came to takingand trying new drugs. Huge doses of amphetamines and alcohol were found in his bladder and blood stream in his toxicology report. Jones reportedly droped acid almost daily, for years.
it makes no difference if he looked the part or was on the forefront of the album covers once Mick and Keef got the art of songwriting together he lost control and dissappeared under a shell shame but thats the truth a very self centred musician only nice in the early days
@@jalisabradford6201 Songwriting is the essence of what a band is Brian lost control because he wasn't able to do this and resented Mick and Keef for it simples everyone who Knows Knows
For openers Jones did not have any water in his lungs or airway at all. That is why the initial COD stating he drowned was changed to "Death by misadventure". A very small amount of "frothy water" was found in his mouth at autopsy, but the airway was clear indicating that once submerged Brian had no urge to try to breathe. The toxicology report showed that he had taken so much amphetamine and drank so much alcohol that he was unconscious when he sank to the bottom. There is no test for the presence of chlorine in autopsies because the native state of chlorine is a gas and by the time the coroner examined the corpse any chlorine would be dissipated.anyway. The line in the autopsy about "freshwater" is included to designate that the body had not been immersed in seawater. England is an island country and drowning in seawater is much more common, so a "freshwater " drowning is worthy of noting. Armchair Sherlock Holmes' like Rawlings Are a joke.Always looking for murder where none exists to sell books. Jones just passed out following an amphetamine binge followed by self administered alcohol sedation so that he would pass out and sleep. Brians common routine. But this time he was in his pool when he passed out.and he just stopped breathing and sunk to the bottom. Brian's worst enemy was Brian Jones. He died as a result of his own actions. The only surprise is that it hadn't happened sooner.
@@natalieangelo54 Everything that had to do with Brian Jones was based around alcohol and drugs ... He was killing himself slowly. Had he not met his fate that night he would not have lived out the year. His lungs were hardened from a decade of heavy cigarette and drug smoking. His liver was diseased and swollen to twice it's normal size from alcohol abuse and a near constant state of inebriation. The strain of his overindulgent lifestyle and the speed he frequently took had his heart dangerously enlarged and also diseased. The only enemy that Brian Jones had to contend with was himself. The Toxicologist and the Coroner's reports do not lie Brian Jones brought on his own end.
@@ziggypop79 That's true, But in one of Keith's books he said, Brian, told me& mick his idea, for the group name& all three agreed. Mick,& Keith, told Brian, to announce it to the Public. TY 🎤🎶🎼🎵🎷🥁🎸😁
Then counter the points made in the book then, if you’ve read it you’ll know what I’m talking about. People can have their views and opinions but please back it up.
