BYU Student Talks of Woke Activities and Professors At BYU 

30 years ago in California, my husband heard a G.A. speak in an area conference. Addressing how members there were compromising towards the world's standards despite not having sunk as low, he said that members were on " a higher road to Hell!" This is a perfect explanation for BYU's accomodation towards the "Religion of Academia" - we are on a higher road to Hell!

Thank you all for your positive comments. This is Tommy Stevenson. What I would recommend is that you bring this video and other reports up with administration if you would like to see change happen at BYU. Thank you for having me on, Greg. Always a pleasure.

First and foremost, Im a staunch member. I believe I might know why this is happening. Well intentioned, coming from a direction of love, our church is currently leading a directive of walking on egg shells towards sins popular in the world. As a result there has become a softening of conviction in standing our ground in declaring Gods very clear Will and teachings against certain sins. As a result, members are more easily being led down a path of spiritual apathy by the adversary, affraid to offend anyone our of fear of not appearing loving. As a result again, younger generations are being raised seeing both the worlds opinions being displayed more in their faces, along with an attitude that doesnt appear against it by their parents and leaders, opening more doors to being even more open to the ideas of being perpetuated by the adversary. This in turn moves peoples understandings of who God is, His personality, further away from reality, making the comprehending of the importance of the Gosple harder to reconcile, being more open to allowing these things to creep in further. Personally i believe its time to stop walking on eggshells. Its time to calmly teach with care, what is right and what is wrong, directly without fearing offending the worldly. We should not fight, we should be direct. Declare crt for what it is, a teaching inspired by the adversary. That acting on gay feelings is an grievous sin, and even thinking these things, or as the Savior put it, lusting in their hearts, is a sin as well, is not ok. To treat other issues like trans for example, for what it is, either a mental issue, or a perversion, both requiring professional help. Im sorry, but the Lord never said that the process of the separation of the wheat from the tares was going to be a clean and painless one. It's time to calmly and directly lovingly teach the gospel without apology, without being vague and without fear.

This makes me so sad to hear this about BYU. I went to BYU many years ago and I never remember any of my teachers or professors teaching anything contrary to the Church or the Gospel. I loved my time spent at BYU and I still love BYU. The BYU administration, board and staff need to remember they have an obligation to the many people who pay into BYU through tithing, tuition, and donations. They also have an obligation to uphold the teachings of the Church, because students choose to go to BYU to have a different kind of academic experience than they would get somewhere else. My parents, Roland and Dora Mae Crabtree, were major donors to BYU in the 1980s. They chose to donate to BYU because of what BYU stood for. If they were alive today, I know they would also be saddened to hear what has happened to BYU. BYU needs be different, and to stay the shining light on the hill that it was meant to be. Professors and teachers need to remember Brigham Young's counsel to Karl G. Maeser "Remember to not teach even the alphabet or the multiplication tables without the Spirit of God."

I studied Psychology at Utah Valley University, as part of that I participated in statistical and survey research programs. In one survey we were asked about belief in God. The only options to choose were: I know there is no god, I believe there is no god, I was raised to believe in god, and I think there might be a god but I do not know. I chose not to complete the survey and I submitted my response about the survey stating that there was a clear and present bias and based on the various questions and available responses it seems it that any combination of responses would all lead to the same biased conclusion and I do not think that study should hold any validity. I was thanked, my points needed in surveys were filled up for the semester and blocked from further surveys, I then was assigned a mandatory sensitivity training from the department. I informed my professor and he was shocked affirmed that i addressed the situation appropriately but nothing changed.

When I was at BYU in 1987-88, I with three others, founded "The New Americans" club, based loosely on the uber-conservative idea of a John Birch Society "chapter" (local group). We grew to about 40 or so members pretty quickly. The main speaker that we sponsored, was Abdul Halim Shams, a cabinet member of the Afghanistan government, prior to the Soviet conquest / genocide attempts. We picked him up at the SLC airport, and he stayed at the home of a local JBS member in Provo. We met in the main auditorium of the Tanner building. His message was anti-communist, anti-Soviet. He warned of the dangers of ever trusting the Soviet Communists. He told of his harrowing escape from execution at the hands of the Soviets (read, "In cold-blood; The Soviet conquest of Afghanistan"). He showed us the marks of torture on his back at the hands of the Soviet Communists. Truly a great message about seeking liberty / supporting liberty / and his faith in God. He was part of the Mujahideen resistance against the Soviets (not Taliban, which rose after America abandoned them). He was consistently interrupted by shouting from radical students, similar to what one would see today. AND, when the address was done, we had to physically escort him out of the auditorium because students were trying to surround him and hurt him. Anyways, I say this, because this has been going on for a long time at BYU. Don't be fooled by any supposed conservatism there.

Twisted Analysis. The Church needs to Clean House.

The good thing Cougar Chronicle did in their recent article was putting an actual name to a problem. Not simply reporting on these issues in general terms. These problem professors prefer to push their false narratives on young and naive college students behind closed doors and naturally dislike attention being called to what they're doing. Cougar Chronicle needs to do more of that.

thank you Tommy Stevenson My husband's son went into byu as a conservative and came out of byu way left

The most concerning thing to me is that it seems when people convert to the religion of academia, they teach it as if it were the undisputed truth. As if it were gospel. It seems that many of these professors give no light, or very minimal light, to an opposing view. Without contrast, we are no longer teaching critical thinking skills, we are indoctrinating. And at BYU, it's indoctrinating young, impressionable students with the philosophies of men, mingled with the words of living and ancient prophets. Incredibly sad and dangerous... because it ultimately will lead to one thing. Apostasy. Because the eternal doctrine and principles of the church will not change, no matter how much the activists come against it. Thank you both for your work!

Thanks goodness for students like these who have the courage to speak truth and take the heat.

I’ve called twice to then Pres Worthens office to vent my concerns about the woke BS at byu. I did it respectfully but the gal I spoke to didn’t seem to think anything was wrong. I’m sorry but until the President of byu and even more importantly Elder Holland and Pres Nelson do something about the issue it’s not going to change.

Good on this fine young man Tommy Stevenson for calling out these anti Christ ideas and teachings at BYU. Thank you for standing up for what’s right.

The recent BYU Women’s Conference featured a “queer” woman (Liv). She said it was part of her eternal identity to be queer and told the audience that her bishop “loved her” because he didn’t ask her “who [she] was dating or what [she] was doing”. This was in front of the former members of the general women’s presidencies in the Church (Sharon Eubank and Jean Bingham) when she did this. They also affirmed her responses! Made me feel so sick that these people I looked up to are falling into that popularity trap. It is deceiving church members. Did you see that conference? (Search queer identity activism BYU conference)

Why is it thus that Hillsdale College must lead and set the example? Our prophets have designated BYU to be the leader-- unique.

That study on political balance had some shocking data. We are one of the most balanced universities because the ratio of left to right is only 6:1. It’s astounding how a place that should be conservative is not only left leaning but considered balanced because the ratio is in single digits.

I’m going on my senior year at BYU. Was at BYUI for 1 year then BYU for 3. I’m amazed out how far from the church the classroom has come. Very rarely do we pray before class which used to be the norm. I have teachers constantly teaching principles directly contrary to teachings of the church. Biggest of which is pushing the LGBTQ community. I’ve had multiple classes that bring in the lgbtq board into our class to talk about their struggles. This is fine but each time the professor starts the conversation by talking about how we need to support them and help push the cause. One Professor even teaching blasphemous doctrine regarding exaltation and those who act within the lgbtq community. My wife and I have talked about how we don’t want our kids to go to BYU because of the things we’ve experienced…but it’s still better than pretty much any college and that’s what scary

Our problem is, we are saying that a segment of church members are actively fighting against the Savior. They are either actively choosing the wrong side or being deceived into trying to change Christ's church. We need to see that if we stand and fight this, we are going to get extreme opposition, like when the Lord was on the Earth, or the early days of the latter day church. They will do ANYTHING to corrupt the Lord's church.

Just graduated from BYU also. Had a great experience but the spiritual aspect of the school has been lost because of political tension. Teachers and students are walking on eggshells so there is limited discussions or arguments in class. BYU needs to be at the front line of religious discourse but it just isn’t anymore.

I graduated from BYU Hawaii in 2003 and was very suprised by the white man hating and liberal ideas we were taught. I complained to the President of the University.

This makes me sick at heart. Why aren't these professors being chastised ? When the Church leadership is silent, it is usually taken as assent.

If actions, like the "Whiteness" activity" had occurred when I was a student at the Y I would've failed as a student. My returns, for that kind of assignment, would've been totally opposite to what would have been assigned.

Thank you both. It's great to listen to brave young men who tell us what is happening. Is it arrogance and self perceived power to teach ones own theory? If someone was to speak non truths from the pulpit the mic would be switched off and they would be asked to sit down while someone else took over. People should be encouraged to report lecturers teaching what they are not authorized to teach. The devil only needs to influence the people at the very top. I am glad that I am weak and simple. Love your show Greg❤

Why are people afraid of calling these teachers out?! There is finally courage to talk about it happening, but everyone says “I’m not going to mention who…” how is this different than protecting these professors.

If I ever had a child go to BYU I would try to imbue them with a healthy skepticism of some of their potential professors. I am sure that there are a lot of professors there that are committed to the gospel, but as this video lays out, there are a lot of “wolves in sheep's clothing” who teach our young adults at church schools. I would tell them to expect to encounter this type of professor from time to time and if they don’t, then consider themselves lucky. I think it would be helpful for students to understand who many of these professors are and what motivations some BYU professors might have that may conflict with the teachings of the gospel. The first thing to remember is that in order to get a professorship or to even get through an advanced degree these professors have been steeped in ideas and practices that contradict the gospel for many years. This affects their world-view and in many cases leftism will trump the teachings of the scriptures and prophets. Many professors wouldn’t have been able to graduate if they didn’t submit to the party line. Another important thing to keep in mind about many Ph.D. professors is that some of them are obsessed with preserving their reputation with other members of Academia in their career field. This is not just in the faculty lounge, but among their peers at other schools. Being conservative could make it very difficult for them to publish and of course present their research to their colleagues. They face an inner conflict between the teachings of the gospel and the expectations of their peers in the Academy. In many cases the Academy wins. These professors spent a lot of time and money getting their doctorate and the associated prestige that comes with it. They don’t want to lose their standing. Some BYU professors have a big incentive to be dishonest about their true feelings about the church and prophetic teachings. Getting a decent job in academia can be very difficult and impossible in some cases. . . unless they can present themselves as a faithful practicing member to BYU hiring committees. How many professors will admit that they don’t have a testimony when doing so would cause them to lose their job? Many of these types would like to work somewhere else, but finding another job could prove to be very difficult. These professors will do the minimum to keep up appearances. The Humanities (especially the English department) Psychology, Sociology, Education and Ethnic Studies Departments all deserve warning labels. I would advise my children to put their guard up any time a professor or anyone else in authority advocates a teaching that contradicts church doctrine and teachings. Hopefully they have been taught well enough to recognise false ideas. The final point I would try to make to a future student at BYU or BYUI is that these know-it-all professors are not as smart as they would like you to believe. In the real world outside academia they would barely qualify to work at a fast food job. In summary there are many BYU professors that are great and are worthy of respect, but many sadly are not. I wish parents would go through these points before sending their children off to BYU schools (or any other college or university for that matter).

Super glad to finally see Thomas on your show Greg! We served in the same mission together, but it wasn't until after we got home that I got to know him a little bit. He has some great insights on BYU and the gospel.

Great episode. No student should have their faith compromised in a CES classroom because of the adopted ideology of faculty. Not one. The issue isn't only pervasive on CES campuses, but is claiming more and more real estate on CES campuses over time. This is much more of an urgent manner than the passive observer might think.

I used to donate $ to Hillsdale. I would never donate money to BYU voluntarily.

Comparing Kendi to President Nelson in any way is so deeply offensive that I’d be violating my covenants to give those who make such comparisons what they deserve.

Looks like trade school may be the path for my kids if BYU is going to fall.

How many members of the church would join if we decided to fight this battle? Instead we are going with the world or riding the edge. We might loose some members who are on the edge but we would gain so many good and righteous people. It seems the people we try to hold on to end up leaving anyway but if we don’t stand up soon it seems everything will become corrupted.

I am currently attending BYU-I through the Pathway Connect Program through the Church. I am so thankful that I have not ran into any of this with my online instructions. I was hoping not to since I am going into Marriage and Family Studies.

there was an incident some decades ago, where some faculty with secular views referred to the Department of Religious Instruction as the "Holy Ghost Club.' There was a kerfluffle over that, and many were reprimanded.

Right around 1967 there were a couple of guys, students, and members of Young Americans for Freedom, were talking to Dr Richard Poll, a very liberal BYU professor. My sister, a student and I, a member of the JBS, were Standing their and listening.. It was not going well, and one of the students started to open the book, Prophets, Principles and National Survival and start quoting from the book. I will never forget that incident! Dr. Paul turned red as a beet. He was so angry he could not contain himself. He started to shake and pointed his finger at the book and said "anyone that was subscribe to that Partisan tract!." I have never seen anyone with so much hatred on their face as Dr. Poll. It actually scared me. I am 82 and it made me realize what we were up against. It is no different today,

Doesn't our tithing support BYU? I think I've heard our tithing is the lords money and it will be used to do the lords work, and to trust those in the care of the lords money? I'm not nor would ever be an activist but I would be troubled knowing that our tithing is going to do Satan's work. If children at BYU are being lead astray by false prophets and false doctrine, which appears to be the case. Then should the lords money, our tithing continue going to such places and causes that work against our lord and seek to destroy God's church?

The biggest problem that exists at BYU is that most parents and students don't know ithis is happening. happening happening

So, here we are in Riverton, UT, age 73. Just what the Heaven are we supposed to do about this? Make calls? Write letters? stage protests? Sit home an pray? what??????

What happened to BYU ? I thought it was an LDS school??

I feel like I have escaped these problems in my time at BYU. Very happy to say that within the Engineering and Math departments people still have sense.

Why is our presidency so blind to this?

Intellectually disciplined conservatives do fine at BYU. They’re still censored, even by cougar chronicle. Teach your kids to have a sober mind, and teach them formal logic. They will be fine.

It’s really a shame that our tithing has to support this university as it veers off the rails and is actively teaching “the philosophies of man, mingled with scripture”

26:30 "These are highly intelligent professors". It has been my observation in life that some of the most intellectually intelligent individuals are some of the most clueless in other key areas (applied sociology, common sense, mechanical aptitude, etc). They are also some of most conforming individuals around. So, I do think it could very easily be the first explanation that these professors are simply clueless about the bandwagon they are jumping on. That they don't truly understand the core facets of what Ibram Kendi stands for.

BYU shouldn't be following anyone. They should be leading the way and setting the example!

Thanks for the courage & content. Ideas have consequences, these can’t be avoided. However, the way we go about it is critical. Is our goal merely to defeat the other person or to win the argument? Or is it to gather the person? Those are very different courses & in my estimation it’s crucial that we be gatherers.

Great interview and great content. Thank you!

Good job at guest selection and topic on this.

The Lord said, there must needs be opposition in all things. Even BYU and BYU students benefit from hearing both sides of issues. The problem happens when woke BYU teachers present "the other side" as the preferred belief

How’s that new BYU president working out for us??

thank you so much for ore clarity. I'm truly saddened by the huge disappoint in a school I've revered for years However--sin filters I everywhere--and is helped bythose with basically confused twisted minds-that perhaps are seeking their 15 minutes of fame. Tragic and contentious of those professor. Thank you Greg & Thommie

I see enough pushback lately to give me hope that the pendulum will swing back the other direction. Hopefully it won’t swing too far however. History has a tendency to overcorrect.

As a old long time member, it discussed to know that my tithing is being given to fund this garbage. Why are we letting this happen. I don’t think the Saviour is too happy with us. I know longer know the Church I joined in 1961. 😥😥😥. We need to stop pampering to the World.🙏👍🇦🇺

Anti-racism= Let’s justify hating in the name of love. Hmmm.

“if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.” “And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, . . . First among those among you, . . . who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, . . .”

Greg, I know you really are interested in BYU, but could you look into BYUI and see how they are doing in this regard? (BYU Grad with Grandkids going to BYUI by choice.)

Graduated from BYU in 2001. Loved my time there but this garbage wasn’t going on. I shed tears over this! Where are the leaders that speak of the rattlesnake “you knew what I was when you picked me up”. Now the leaders teach, If you pick up the snake just be careful oh and help others pick up the snake as well. This hurts my soul. My heart truly breaks for conservatives. It makes me so sad to see this going on.

There aren't very many people who can do anything about this. I suspect those who can are oblivious to the poison being spread.

And to make matters worse, two years ago BYU cancelled the men's hockey program - the coolest game on earth and only non-woke sport on earth.

I’m going to be a senior at byu next month. In my 3 years at this university, I can’t recall encountering any wokeness, but I’m also doing engineering which is much more exclusively based on math and physics and there isn’t really room for politics in there at all. Perhaps this is just something I haven’t experienced because of what my major is? Anyhow, woke ideology is distinctly anti God. The idea that boys can be girls and girls can be boys, that God made a mistake and “trapped us in the wrong body.” This stuff has no place at BYU of all places. The university needs to remember to put off the natural man, for the natural man is an enemy to God. Woke ideology is a result of the natural man, not God.

Who are the professors? Which courses ?

Why is everyone so afraid of naming names? It’s okay to name that Sociology professor. All organizations have people with names who make decisions. Don’t give anonymity to any organization i.e. the committee, the board, the dean, the department. Anonymity eliminates accountability. Be brave. Name names. Additionally, where was President Worthen on all this? It appears as if he was just standing idly by.

A Hillsdale-like classical education from a church school based in real science and reasoning would be great, and the only type of schooling appropriately offered by the church. If it continues this way, I won't be okay encouraging my children go to a BYU school. And if we can't send them there... then where? Of course, university students should be taught ABOUT "Critical Theory," but not converted to it as the religion it attempts to be. Really church schools should be counted on to be free from this sort of indoctrination and woke ideology antithetical to the gospel of Christ. That professors are packing it AS the gospel of Christ is so misguided and troubling-- so many people (otherwise good, though I now question their intelligence) are not understanding the finer points, nor recognizing the fruits, of the woke doctrine.

A few years ago, I attended a lecture on the Universal Model. A new millennial science. The presentor was a former BYU student and was told by the professor in biology, "Forget what you learned in Sunday school and seminary concerning the Biblical account of the creation because it's wrong." He never went back.

You know I don't understand why everyone asking where are the bretheren why aren't they doing anything. You kinda have to reap what you sow in the gospel of Jesus Christ. We as a people only have ourselves to blame. I know for a fact what we see happening at byu and trickling down into the ward level has nothing to do with what's been said from the pulpits for the last 40 years I've been alive and the 150 years or so I've studied its history. This a bottom up problem not a top down one.

Responding to what you said at 26:40 around there, I listened to Jordan Peterson’s Daily Wire episode 337, with Maajid Nawaz and he talked about idea networks connecting it to the Christian principle of principalities where “we’re all imitating each other all the time.” You get enough people in the room together with the same ideas, they just feed each other all the time those ideas without any conscious effort to have their own conclusion. Let me know what you think about that discussion, Greg. 👍

Philosophies of men mingled with scripture is what is happening.

I would never be able to graduate from BYU, since I would always disagree with my professor and fail the course. Other students would be in the same boat. How is this being allowed? And what are students doing about it?

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According to most growth models generated in the 1980's we were supposed to see a much longer and higher growth curve. We've been sitting stagnant at about 17 mil. We lowered the missionary age, dumbed down the lessons, fenced in gospel doctrine with CFM for a minimum level understanding church wide. They have made the gospel as uninteresting as possible. I went on a mission, attended BYU, married in the temple, paid my dues, and held dozens of callings, and continue to serve. Alone. For what? CES has blithely danced through our halls and torn away people's testimonies of the brethren, Joseph Smith, while giving us a general resentment of patriarchy. They've misread our history, told us that we've been lied to, and that we should be basing our testimony on apostates and traitors. We get a rock in a hat, an unprovable Mayan narrative that is laughable - two Cumorah's? We get a second translator who really did the translating and JS just read off a dark tickertape. They deny the first vision, the visitation of angels and priesthood keys. They even put a painting on the cover of SAINTS with Mary Whitmer being visited by Moroni. Who said that?! Not Mary! She called him Bro. Nephi. But she's a dumb old woman, said her grandson that claimed it was really Moroni, and so our virtuous scholars ran with that. President Holland PLEADS with the faculty to please stop attacking them, only to be called satanic the next day. Most of my relatives have bought this garbage and left the church, many with their memberships removed. If the Church academia had held fast to the gospel and not sided with Sunstone, Signature, Arrington, Bushman, etc., there is every reason to believe the church would be moving into the 22 to 25 million member range. When someone like Bushman is quoted in every article written that ridicules -- falsely -- our faith, and we can do nothing but sit dumbly out of fear from the Salt Lake Tribune writing another hit piece against us, who is accountable? Those who say, "Believe it not".

As a parent of three students who have attended BYU and one that went to BYUI these "professors" need to be exposed and terminated. End of story. They have no business poisoning the minds of our children. We sent our kids to BYU to protect them from the worldly garbage that is taught on nearly every other campus. Our tithing should not be spent on the salaries of people teaching students concepts that are in direct opposition to church doctrine. We need to be able to trust the administrators and faculty of the school we pay for and send our children to.

The church education committee is aware? or is not aware of all this ?? No actions to stop this garbage ??

Much of BYU, has tilted left since I attended 1969- early 70's.

Where is the first presidency on this? Many of the BYU leaders only exit BYU as the are called as apostles or 70s? So, they are definitely seen for their work.

Westminster College in SLC has a class on porn in which students watch porn movies together in class.

Maybe you covered this already but has the first presidency addressed this problem?

So Thankful for the Book of Mormon, the prophet Mormon was certainly and absolutely led by the Spirit of Our Eternal Father in Heaven which led Mormon to write Lehi's dream of the Iron Rod. Our precious children whom we Love so much being mocked by intellectually vain professors in the spacious building 👉 fingers at our young people and other professors who attend or work at BYU , WHO ARE STRIVING TO REACH THE TREE OF LIFE, , ,,only to feel ashamed by fellow students and SOME FACULTY who permitted the mists of darkness enter their minds and finally lock in their hearts, my heart hurts for these poor victims who have bowed to the religion of Relativism that in a nut shell is attempting to destroy The Eternal Fathers Plan of happiness and journey to Celestial Spheres thats has and will always be the plan,,nothing will stop this plan of Holiness and Patriarchal Order for the Exaltation for trillions and beyond of precious humble souls in the eternal scope, One Eternal Round. Brothers and Sisters, let us pray for everyones spiritual welfare including the calculating individuals who plan and manipulate the innocent vulnerable minds of the students and some faculty at BYU and abroad. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO READ THIS, MAY THE ATONEMENT OF THE CHRIST PENETRATE AND CLEANSE AND FREE THE CAPTIVE HEARTS AND MINDS, LOVE YOU ALL. THE BEST TO EACH OF YOU.

I’m sending my kids to Southern Virginia University

The accrediting organization has a great deal of influence on everything that goes on at a university. They can claim that you violate a part of their standards and make it very clear what you need to change to get approval. In turn, those organizations have to be approved by the US department of education. I bet the church will have to create its own accrediting body eventually or lose their accreditation. The current administration would never allow a conservative accrediting organization to be created. That means no federal financial aid.

I certainly am not encouraging anyone to attend BYU. It used to be because of money, but it certainly has turned into the liberal agenda, not sure if the professors are members of the church and I'm not sure that those I'd encourage to attend BYU would not lose their way

28:45 "My kingdom is not of this world." Jesus was not there to liberate them from the Romans.

Please please name the professors!

Alls well in Zion! Zion prospereth! Listen to wise leaders and medical professionals. Lets all fast for the Global economy. You know the economy of Babylon. At some point you have to look at the top

BYU takes government money. Hillsdale can do what they do because they are private

38 O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are ye ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never dies- because of the praise of the world?

"Milquetoast" sure isn't a word I've heard in a very long time.

Man, I hate having my suspicions about BYU confirmed. Why is this being allowed to continue?

Not the BYU of Hugh Nibley and Cleon Skousen.

I’m a member of the church of Jesus Christ and don’t want to go there because of the problems there. I’m good with everything going on in the church and the prophets teachings, but I don’t plan on going to BYU as it doesn’t fully reflect the churches standards anymore.

The Brethren cannot be uninformed as to what is going on at Church schools. What to think about this is something I have not yet come to terms with. Then again, I am sure that allowing Church schools to become monolithic in nature is the first mistake. Once you permit numbers to become as large as they have become at BYU and as planned for BYUI, you can forget exercising any reasonable degree of control. This is assuredly what has happened at all major universities around the country. How much better had the Church established many smaller institutions of higher learning all around the country, institutions that actually served the members of the Church instead of inviting so many non-members, non-members mostly converted to the sinful practices of the world. And this has been occurring for decades, long before progressive ideology became so commonplace.

lol, Ibram Kendi, "Climate Change is racist because most black people live in the south and it will get hotter there." He makes the flat earthers look smart.

Get rid of the sports and be like BYUI

The church has gigantic issues which greatly overshadow a university doing what universities do. The conservative faction of the church would be so much more comfortable if the organization got out of education it seems. The fragility is not a good sign for the world view.

I think professors see thousands of students and see first hand the trauma of a lot of adolescents, already in a hard time of their life, struggling with these issues, and compassion wins out over doctrine for them.

I agree with the basis of your opposition Greg, the issue is the intermingling of education with the Gospel. That is why I vehemently oppose all The Church's based BYU schools. It is the absolute wrong model for higher education and in my opinion should be abandoned! Stunning the Lord's tithes are used to perpetuate teaching secular education through the lens of The Gospel.

Imagine being a professor and complaining on twitter 🐦 🍼👶🚼

My son attends BYU. Only in his STDEV classes does he face political nonsense, woke stuff. All his other classes are led by faithful professors. If a child is in the Humanities or Social Sciences he/she may experience wokeism. The rest of the University isn't plagued by these ideologies.

"Shall the youth of Zion falter?" It seems likely these days. (Sorry)

Let me just be blunt. Kendi and those teaching it and pushing it, are anti-christ. They are teaching the same things we see several times in the book of mormon, such as korihor and those who espouse those teachings. The words may be different on the surface, but lets not kid ourselves and open our eyes and see this for what it really is.

One day at Disney Land "Mommy, how will I know if I'm getting woke sick?" Well dear, first you'll become confused about some simple things and people's lies will start to make sense to you, if you lie to yourself also. There's people who can't even tell the difference between a boy and a girl and say one can be the other!! "Umm... what happens after that?" When it gets worse you'll always feel angry, blame others for it, holler in the streets at them and want only free things. Then you'll start to tell the same lies that first infected you making others ill and start doing some really crazy bad stuff you had already learned and naturally knew better. Jesus doesn't like it one bit either. Some people hurt their own bodies, even file down their teeth, be dirty with each other and almost everybody's hair changes into funny colors, weird hairdos and dress like aliens. "Eww!! Should I wear a mask so woke bugs can't get me?" No honey, those don't work at all but what we can do is, never ever lie to yourself and those bugs can't get in. Therefore, you won't tell those lies to others either. Woke bugs enter through bad thoughts. Practice social distancing by not listening to them when ever you can and never believe a woke person's lies and you'll be ok. To be extra safe, ask the Holy Ghost to always be with you and keep you safe so that kind of deception can't penetrate your mind, making you sick. "Well that doesn't seem too hard Mommy. Is that what you do Dad?" Sure is squirt. We also ask Jesus to help those sick people get better if they'll let Him. It helps bigly to stop spreading woke germs. Never vote Democrat these days which helps lots too. That's where most of the source is. It's a huge jungle of nasty brain bugs we don't want to get any bigger. "Good, I hope He helps us all. I Love you guys" We love you too honey. MAGA :>)

This is horrifying. Red Scare much?