Amazing to think that some people believe they can loose their salvation. Here's a few questions to strongly consider concerning the loss of one's salvation: Exactly when do you loose it? Can you pinpoint or specify the critical time when that happens? Would you know that very time in your spirit? And if you did, would you dare not leave the house because of the possibility of being killed in an automobile accident and going to hell?... Which only means you would have gone to heaven if you had properly repented even only seconds before that same fatal collision. Seriously?? Where is the tipping point for God? And, for that matter, exactly what particular sins would cause you to loose it? Perhaps murder and adultery, but not lying? Or suppose lying was included in loosing one's salvation, how many lies would that be? Since we all sin daily, must we all continually repent daily......many, many times, to make sure we're in good standing with God? Would God save you and demand you live in constant fear or uncertainty about your eternal destination? Is it beginning to sink in? Please ponder each question several times if you took the time to read this comment. I have written it to give you peace. Rest in confidence, dear friends, in your eternal security. Your name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life. It is there to stay. There are no erasers in heaven to remove your name from that book. Erasers are used to correct mistakes. Jesus never makes a mistake. Be blessed and take care everyone.
If a person can lose their salvation, they can never ever say that they know they are saved. Because if you can do something that can cancel out your salvation today (or next week, or next year), then at best you can say is "I know I am saved right now." But what you can never say is, "I know I have eternal life.". Instead you will lose your rewards./crowns... but not the free gift of (salvation) Eternal Security through Christ Jesus
If a person says you can lose their salvation they are calling God and Jesus a liar. If your truly saved and have a relationship with Jesus Christ than you are saved and can never lose it!!! If you sin than you can lose your fellowship but not your relationship there is a vaste difference between the two.
So, when Jesus said "I will not blot out their name from the book of Life", that implies that blotting out CAN occur. Jesus repeatedly says in Revelation, "For those that overcome", "For those that endure till the end". This would seem to imply that those that don't, don't.
Since salvation is a free gift blotting out names cannot take salvation away. It is not earned. It comes to all freely. All mankin have been saved from death and hell and nothing can take that away from mankind. Observing the gospel of jesus christ gets saved man to the father, but man had to already be saved freely in order to make that choice.
Did you ever think that maybe Everyones name is already written in the lambs book of life and when he blots them out its means he is removing the ones who did not ever believe in jesus? #PlotTwist
John wrote in the Book of Revelation (20:13-) that he saw Death and Hell give up their dead to be judged. After judgment, Death and Hell were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The only individuals thrown into the Lake of Fire are Satan, the third part of heaven that were cast out, and the Sons of Perdition. All others are saved and will be given glory in their resurrection as Paul explained to the Corinthians in 1 Cor. 15:40. The only doctrine that isn't scriptural is Biblical Fraud CHRISTIANITY!
James 5:19-20 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
I know of someone who got saved then became Muslim and a denier of Christ. You can lose your salvation! The gift of salvation is free, but you CANNOT mock God.
Yes. Matthew 10:22 "...he that shall persevere unto the end, he shall be saved." Matthew 24:13 But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved.
No one can take them from Jesus hand but the sheep can DEFENETLY walk away because of free will so yes you can lose your salvation , u can’t be saved and keep on sinning like there is no tomorow !!
Did the Bible say that? That you can walk out? Only those led by the Spirit of God are his children Rom8, and the Spirit of God will never lead you to sin
@@AstariahJW if it was a gift that could be lost it would not be eternal.....I'll believe Jesus Christ Himself "I give them eternal life and they shall never perish. Noone can snatch them out of My hand." I don't know how Jesus could have made it any more clear than that. What you don't understand is its not at all about me keeping me; but God keeps me......Jesus forever liveth to make intercession for the saints....Jesus forever lives to pray for the saints. Do Jesus prayers ever fail? Of course not! Thats why we cannot lose our salvation...eternal life is the free gift from God. God does not give gifts and then comes back later and decides to take them back. That is ridiculous! Some of the people who believe that salvation can be lost are trying to earn it on their own....many of them may not be saved in the first place.
there are countless numbers in churches that are not truly saved....they never possessed eternal life in the first place.....but Eph 1:13-14 says that God seals with the Holy Spirit those who truly belong to Him....the deposit guaranteeing our inheritance..
Amen to the calvinistic systematic theology which is In line with What the Bible teaches. I was an arminian before but when I began to seriously study and understand the Bible I became convinced that johncalvin was right In the way he systematized the doctrines of the Bible.
Exodus 32-33 (How can Moses say to the lord erase me from the book if it's not possible ( that pastor need to read the bible again, because we see how many that were converted but still sinning, God once said if you are lukewarm I will vomit you, those words are for the converted, because a person who does not believe how can be inside and be vomited) So Moses went back to the Lord and said, “Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. 32 But now, please forgive their sin-but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.” 33 The Lord replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. 34 Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin.”
Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. Revelation 2:10 If a person ceases to be faithful, that person will not receive the crown of life.
Amen. This is why in Revelation we are told 3 times that we must conquer in order to be granted the crown, eat from the tree, etc etc. it’s really all over the Bible and many are being deceived by this false doctrine. I’m exposing this doctrine on my channel. God bless you buddy.
My Lord what a twisting of words. The biggest lie of protestantism is the fact they believe they are saved whatever being saved means to them, no matter what they do.
@@thomasdonohue1833 luke 22:19 Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “This means my body, which is to be given in your behalf.+ Keep doing this in remembrance of me.”+ 20 Also, he did the same with the cup after they had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in your behalf. The loaf represents the body . The wine represents the blood So some translations have this is my body instead of this means my body Jesus wasnt passing his body around .
Can a man still save even he chose to be a backslider? Or worship other god, even he had recieved Jesus before? Thank in advance for you answer. God Bless😇
That's all well and good, but we know we could counter with dozens of warning passages. Wouldnt it be refreshing if just one pastor would say...you know what...its not entirely clear. Instead, everyone acts like they KNOW the answer to this question. The truth is...nobody does for sure. The TRUTH is that scripture is not crystal clear on this. Myself, I lean toward taking the warnings seriously, and not dismissing them.
Sin cannot enter into heaven .The book of revelations says not even a lie will enter into heaven..Dont be decieved study your bibles..Many will try to enter in..Jesus will say Depart from me ye workers of inquity for I never knew you.!...Jesus became sin that knew no sin! you cannot serve two masters!
Not exactly sure what you're saying, so didn't know wether to agree or disagree. It's "revelation," by the way, not "revelations." If you're saying that we can't enter Heaven on our own merits and works, but only through the blood of Jesus because He became our perfect sacrifice, then I agree with you. Only those who trust in Jesus for their salvation are saved.
sean christian come on he is wrong in the Bible but as long as he believes Jesus is his savior he won’t go to hell... and also being loving is part of what Jesus wants us to do anyway
@@shaunlee8425 little bit of leaven ruins the whole lump. adding any amount of works to salvation defeats the purpose of putting your trust in Jesus. Jesus also said to call out those who pervert or twist the gospel. it's correction out of love.
sean christian few issues with what you said 1. You are being factually wrong. Agreed that we should not mix works with grace and we are saved by the later. But we do not go to hell as long as we believe Jesus is our savior. Otherwise what you said would contradict the first statement. 2. Of course we should correct but to do so with love. Let us take the example of jesus, when he corrected people he always did so by showing them love first and removing the condemnation In their hearts before then correcting them, we see this with the women living in adultery, we see this in the parable of the prodigal son and we see this in the healing of Peter. Peter denied Jesus. Yet did Jesus come back with “you are going to hell man” as correction? No he did not. Did Jesus call him an idiot? Nope. So we should treat others with the same kind of love and respect that Jesus did. Not this “tough love” style
His definition of belief was adding works into it lol. He says believing is baring a fruit? I trust that Jesus was risen but to add on you have to bare fruit is in complete contradiction of being saved lol. It goes against the Body of Christ being covered for all sins under the blood sacrifice. This muddied the waters.
Adam and Eve had eternal life, both physically and spiritually before they sinned. It was conditional, as we all know. So when Mr. Wagner says that "eternal life" is not conditional or temporal, he misses the point. Eternal life is given conditionally--on faith. God gave Adam and Eve eternal life, but to be consistent, Mr. Wagner must say God did not give them conditional life. Yet, the point is God can and does give eternal life conditionally.
sin can't enter Heaven.You can walk away from salvation.Even if you are TRULY saved and 2 years later you purposely leave God and indulge in drunkness ,you WILL perish!God Hates sin!
Churches of all denominations are full of membership rosters where some members have been crossed out because they are no longer Christian. At one time these were joyful, dedicated members (went through baptism, served the church, etc.) who fell away. It is so easy to explain this as "persons who were never really saved." The truth is that even as Christians, the Lord does not take away our free will. Some, including Pastors, (seduced by the enemy or temptation) decide to enjoy the pleasures of this life more than the life of God.
@@bible4truth You know people on social media. They always type STUPID things in comments. They are SCRIBES. They will not escape Judgment. "Woe to the SCRIBES [and Pharisees" What we TYPE in social media leads to our salvation AND our damnation … and millions of these people are damning their souls as they type foolish things, and yoke themselves with folly and sin against God.
What does Jesus mean when he said the path is narrow and few will find it. Is he talking about entering the kingdom? I'm confused by this in relationship with this video.
Out of 10 people that you randomly ask on the street, how many actually believe that Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection alone will get them into heaven? Matthew 7:14 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it."
In heaven there is no temptation or sin it a perfect place. But satan was kicked in to hell. So how easy is it for us to fall away and turn away from god.
The danger of teaching - "Yes we are saved by Grace alone but Grace is never alone" is that Christians will try to prove by they're works that they have real faith. It becomes a Work based Salvation! It sounds good but if you really think about it its work based looking inwardly in man then to Christ finished work.
The Bible knows no reality wherein a person is regenerated, and made a new creation, but then fails to demonstrate any internal and external evidence; and this I speak in terms of a life-style.
Obviously not all of the Corinthian members lived in carnality and where does it say those that did, did so for all of the 4-5 years? There is no such biblical reality as a regenerate Christian demonstrating only carnality with no "new creation" manifestations.
Louis Unger Hopefully there is change in a believer once they put they're trust in Christ. To say that a evidence of works is a sign of real faith? Well how many works? How many sins do you have to repent of to know you have faith.? You sound like a Calvanist . That's why a 5 point Calvanist could never know they are saved because they don't know they "persevered long enough or just enough. Thief on the cross never had a chance to do any works but went to paradise. John 5:24 says at that moment of belief one has , past tense, past from death to life. Never had to prove anything. "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” 1 John 5:13
elgriego331 Calvinism affirms the passages you cited, but it also clearly states that there are two types of "belief"; one that saves and another that does not.
I hear people talking about how a sheep can go astray from the flock, but no one ever mentions the fact that Christ (the shepherd) will leave the flock to rescue the one that’s went astray.
The Rooted Word Jeremiah 32:40 KJV And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.
@@andrewjackson3278 Notice that it says "I will put my fear in their hearts" and then ask the Once Saved Always Saved heretics if they fear God or love God. Just give them these two choices. It they still say they fear God, then ask them if they still sin or have stopped sinning. I guarantee they will say that everyone sins and no one can stop sinning. That is the end of the conversation, because they do not have the fear of YHWH in their hearts. It means they are not under this everlasting covenant and neither is anyone who continues to sin. John declares this in agreement with Jeremiah, in 1 John 3. You cannot continue to sin if the fear of YHWH that is in your heart was put their by YHWH Himself. If, however, it is fear of God put their by man or by your flesh, then it is powerless over your sin. This is not the fear of YHWH that Jeremiah declares in this covenant.
A CONTRACT goes two ways. You can violate a contract just as you can violate the Covenant. You CAN turn back into a life of unrepentance sin and go to Hell.
@@DonCornelius366 You are welcome to come to my channel and be blessed by the teachings that center on the Gospel that Jesus preached. May the LORD bless you as you seek Him with all your heart.
I just want to warn anyone who wonder if you can lose your salvation, I personally had a vision while at work of me personally losing my salvation. I don't do drugs nor drink. There is nothing more important or valuable than your personal relationship with the Lord. Don't let anyone fool you to thinking that constant sin is OK. Please I'm begging you to stay focus and be obedient to the Lord and His will🙏
Patrick Trent Dear Lord please Save Patrick Trent. Heal him and let him feel Your peace, love, joy, forgiveness and mercy. Please let Him accept You in his heart. I pray this in Jesus Name Amen ✝️❤️🙏
LORD GOD i don't know this person (Patrick Trent) or whomever is asking for prayer, BUT YOU GOD KNOW THEM AND THEIR NEEDS, Please help them GOD IN YOUR SON JESUS NAME AMEN :)
Lord whatever Patrick Trent is going through that you would heal him Lord and You will give him peace and joy God be with him Lord give him strength in Jesus mighty name amen 🙏✝️
Is salvation temporal or eternal? If it is temporal, you can lose it..because it's limited and will wither away if not maintained or be lost if not guarded. If it's eternal, you can't lose it, because it's forever (no expiration date, no rusting away, impossible to be eaten by moth or destroyed)
Everybody struggles with sin and have always struggled with sin. From Adam to Abraham to moses to Paul till now, except Jesus. Struggling with sin your whole life doesn't men you'll lose salvation.
You can loose your Salvation, if you stop being fed by the word of God. Lots of people lost their faith in the bible. Salomon was one of them among others. If we stop bearing fruits, God will cut off our branch. We are saved by Grace, by we need to continue to feed our faith, otherwise, it will die.
Maurice, we are in agreement. Come listen to my teachings on this issue and others at my channel and the LORD bless you as you seek Him with all your heart!
@@eliaszuniga3385 Yeo thats why you're saved. You still live in horrid sin but Christ has provided you an eternal salvation, Just like the Bible says. The "living in sin" the Bible talks about is the sin of unbelief. The only sin that gets you sent to hell. If you read your Bible you would know this... smh
We're not saved because of our relationship we're saved because of the blood that was shed on the cross for us this guy is preaching a false gospel thinking that his works are going to get him to Heaven he says that he doesn't believe in works but then he immediately puts works in the mix another heretic watch out for these people it is through faith alone for if it be with works then it be no more faith for If It Be by faith then it is not of works it cannot be both for if it is both then the cross has been made no effect
Hello freind, I am responding to a comment you posted on another channel about someone's teaching on the gospel of Jesus Christ. You said that he was preaching a false gospel. We must be very careful to quickly judge others when sharing the gospel. We must use wisdom to discern what someone is speaking. This man said nothing negative to anyone and in fact spoke truth. It is true we are saved by faith alone. However, without works, faith is dead. I can't tell you how many times I wrestled with this in my life. But when I searched (work) the scriptures for my self and repented (work) God's word (hearing the truth) gave me the faith I needed to trust and believe in Him. Now I walk by faith and not by works (I don't rely on my good deeds to get me to heaven) I rely on Jesus Christ to make me all that I need to be for himself and out of gratitude for Him I do my best to please Him (works) now, my works show that I love God. God judges the heart of a person, and only God truly knows what's In a person's heart. that is why the scriptures say don't judge or you will be judged. But in truth, we are to judge righteously. Unless someone is living in known sin or practicing some teaching that causes others to sin, we should not pass judgment. But if we see someone practicing sin, we have every right to correct that person as long as we are not playing the hypocrite. Think about this freind. Jesus said in the gospels "do you think these people were worse sinners than some? I tell you no, but unless you repent you will all likewise perish." In order to not perish you have to repent (works) turn from doing wrong. There is a higher understanding in God's word and we will not find it by simply scanning the scriptures. It's takes time a devotion. God says In another place "my people perish for lack of knowledge." my freind you may want to ask God for His wisdom and truly study the scriptures. I'll leave you with this... works cannot produce faith, but Faith will produce works. Therefore that faith (came before) (saved alone by) brought forth the fruit (works) that God desires. God bless you friend.
@@yourwillnotmine428 I think you should still respond though. People to need see the devotion and dedication we have to our glorious Lord and Savior. You reminding him may prove effective. Maybe I planted, you can water and then God will give the growth :)
John 10:27-29 King James Version (KJV) 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
If you read the very next verse, it says that it is God who is doing the working! "work" is not the best translation. The Greek word comes from an old mining term, like when you mine ore. This verse deal more with relishing your salvation with awe and respect realizing the amazing thing that God has done for you.
Matthew 7:21 " who does the will of my Father who is in heaven will enter" Another passage in Matthew chapter 24 where Jesus is warning his followers to "watch out that no one deceives you" vs.4 and "At that time many will turn away from the faith" vs.10 unbelievers don't have faith!. So here Jesus in this chapter is talking to Christians and constantly warning Christians that they can "fall away" and the key verse in this passage is in vs13 "But he who stands firm to the end will be saved " so salvation isn't a guarantee.
“If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” 1 John 1:6-7 KJV
@@theresnohell3144 You don't read the Bible. You read selected verses 1-2 taken out of context and stitched together into Calvin's gospel. You are not a Christian if you follow Calvin's gospel instead of Jesus' Gospel.
@@TheRootedWord actually I think you're the one reading the bible out of context my friend. Please, and I think every single one of us would love to see it, where in the bible it says you CAN lose salvation? May grace be with you all, God bless
Many people might gonna be left behind when the rupture comes because of this belief. I pray that the Holy Spirit will continue to open our eyes and guide us into all truths.
The will of the father is found in John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day So those who don’t do the will (believe) will be shut out at rapture. They are religious people who never trusted Christ. They trusted their own righteousness and not Gods Also the fruit we bear is from Jesus. His spirit in us. Galatians 5:22 describes the works of the spirit after salvation.
Being a believer implies you have truly accepted Christ with all of your heart. This means you have inherited his kingdom no matter what. This also means that you have accepted the responsibly to live a holy life, glorifying Jesus. The only way you don’t have salvation is living a life of sin, meaning you haven’t truly accepted Christ as your savior. Therefore, a believer cannot lose their salvation.
Thank you for your grace Lord, I believe in your sacrifice for my sins and my eternal salvation. Nothing can separate me from your Love. My Salvation does not depend on my goodness but in your goodness.
If you preach a salvation that can be lost, then you don't preach the gospel of Christ. Paul has strong words for you. Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse The gospel of Christ is permanent. It is accompanied by joyful obedience and submission to the word, fruits of the spirit in your life, a new heart and new birth. Those who claim salvation can be lost cannot know they have it, because they must trust their own works, not Christ's in order to have confidence, which reduces Christ's work to something on par with every other religion on earth. It is heresy. It is evil. It is false. You are saved the moment you believe. Two thieves were on the crosses to Jesus' left and right. They both lived as thieves. They were both sinners. Neither were baptized. Neither spoke in tongues. One went to heaven. One went to hell. Why? One repented and trusted Christ, the other did not. That's the difference between an eternity of bliss with God and an eternity of perfectly calibrated torment. Christ. Repent and believe the gospel. It is free. It is irreversible. It cannot be given back. It cannot be forsaken. It cannot be broken. Those who teach otherwise are not sheep, they are the goats who will try to get in by another fold. Not a single one will enter.
Hallelujah and Amen to that Sir... You are truly God sent. Fake Pastors are telling the world that they can lose Salvation. Impossible to lose Salvation unless the Cross was in vain.
John 10:28 King James Version (KJV) 28" And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."
Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. totally in agreement with you
@@johncandillo1459 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; -1Corinthians 15:3 KJV
Dave, unfortunately those who are not born again, will not understand. We can pray for them and recite Scripture, but that's we can do. You are absolutely right, though!
@@shuntymcfuggles3623 Can i say God bless you ? i agree , a Born again is Born again , not Born Again and again and again , and the born again cannot be unborn.
Don't ask your pastor. Read your Bible: ⚫ "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6) It's amazing to me that anyone could conclude you're still "saved" after being "cast off as a branch" and "withered" and "cast into the fire" and "burned." Simply amazing. Jesus did not say "once a branch, always a branch." ⚫ Romans 11:19-22: The apostle Paul warned that Gentiles, even after being "graffed" into the "vine," could be "cut off" the vine, just as the "natural branches" - the Israelites - had been broken off: "Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." ⚫ Hebrews 4:1: "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." ⚫ 1 Corinthians 9:24-27: The apostle Paul had the holy spirit. Paul clearly refuted "once saved, always saved": he stated it was possible for him to revert to a life of sin and therefore be rejected . . . a "castaway." Here's verse 27: "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." There's a message there for all who have been misled to believe that *having* the holy spirit is a "seal" or guarantee of your salvation. We must remain in repentance, ready to be *led* by the holy spirit (Romans 8:13,14), "walking after the spirit" (Romans 8:1) . . . not just _having_ it and ignoring it. ⚫ 2 Peter 2:20-22 If, after overcoming sin through knowing Jesus, a person then returns to sin, "the latter end is worse with them than the beginning." "For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." ⚫ Hebrews 10:26,27 delivers the same warning about returning to sin: "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." ⚫ Hebrews 6:4-6 It IS possible to fall away, even after receiving the holy spirit! There would have been no point in writing the next passage if it were impossible to fall away: "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." ⚫ Hebrews 12:14,15 We can "fail of the grace of God": "Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;" ⚫ Revelation 3:5 and 22:19 Our names CAN be blotted out of the book of life: "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels." "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." ⚫ 2 Peter 1:10,11 Here's another example of "if" with conditions: "Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." ⚫ Heb 3:12-14 Another "if" with conditions: "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;" ⚫ Col 1:21-23 Another "if" with conditions: "And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;" ⚫ Romans 8:13 Another "if": we must choose to be led by the holy spirit: "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." ⚫ Luke 12:45,46: Jesus clearly warned what would happen to servants who returned to sin: "But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers." "Once saved, always saved," with "eternal security"? Apparently not. Sins "all paid for, past, present and future"? Apparently not. That servant was going to pay for his sins himself.
Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Yeah but you need to FOLLOW Jesus. Believing in him isn't enough according to these readings. Doing what Jesus asks of you as a person and a Christian is important.
Those who ENDURE and OVERCOME their love of sin / Flesh, are the ones who will be saved.....and those who do not endure? They will LOSE their Salvation...That's Scripture
Answer these three questions... Question #1: Does God know everything that you do before you do it? Question #2: Can you NOT do all that God knows that you will do? Question #3 : If you answered question #1 with a "yes" and question #2 with a "no" then how is it possible for you to lose your salvation? From a logical standpoint it is impossible to lose your salvation if God knows what you are going to do before you do it because if he knows you will do it then you ARE GOING to do it. If you are saved then you are always saved.
@@emilywalton4105 But that doesn't mean they're not saved. Jesus says in John 11;26 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall NEVER die. Believest thou this? In that verse even Jesus is asking if you and anyone else believes that. One must first understand that they're a sinner and will sin until the day they die. Any works of you trying to fo things for your salvation is not biblical. Ephesians 2:8,9
If salvation is the forgiveness we have from the cross; then you better believe it can NOT be lost! However if salvation is our assurance then yes assurance can be lost since it is simply our "take" of the self assurance we have in Christ. Stop making excuses for hell belief.
What tf it’s Christmas Jesus’s birthday. Didn’t even think about Jesus today tbh but all of a sudden here I am tearing up in bed 1:00AM thinking about GOD what a coincidence just noticed it was Jesus bday today as I lay in bed rn..
"Its not in the word forget what you heard." Love it! just found your channel love the great true christian content I'll probably binge watch a buch of your videos in the next few days. But really thank you for being grounded in truth, in the Bible and not progecting theology into the text its rare.
Have they ever addressed in a video the 10 Commandments and why some churches teach them as valid and not valid anymore? Same goes for the Sabbath Commandment and the issue of it being changed by Roman Catholic leadership to the first day of the week from the 7th day of the week. These are hard teachings for many of us who are indoctrinated from young or some that have too much pride to read all scriptures in the Bible that talk of these issues.
John Morpheus - john 14:21 solves every thing . Just stay home with your family and edify them . Make good friends . Be friendly . I have been turned off by spinners of the gospel . I have been around . Many pastors just do not care about caring when the “folks” are hurting ! Do not pay a pastor . Make them get a job where they have to sweat . And deal with real life .
@John Morpheus the Catholic Church did not change the sabbath, the first Christians met on Sunday, Read 1 Corinthians 16:2, you are being deceived by the SDA church my friend, God bless you.
@@brettpruefer7541 Agree. The first Christians always celebrated on Sunday (the day of the Risen Lord) whereas the Jewish people celebrate on the Sabbath - since they don't believe in the Resurrection of the Messiah.
9 of the 10 Commandments are reiterated in the New Testament, which means we still have to follow them. The only one we don't is the Sabbath, since that belongs to the Jews. Christians celebrate on Sunday, the day of Christ's resurrection.
@@candyclews4047 they were all Jews and kept Sabbath and no where in the Bible was it changed friend. Another comment said I had been deceived by the SDA people but I went to Catholic school and have studied the major religions as a Bible major and actually attended every faith and belief system in my world travels. Even for wrapped up in yoga and meditation which is its own topic for another day of dangerous practices. All I can say is to keep searching the scriptures for yourselves and lay down your theology and commentary studies from your specific denominations and then you’ll see plainly all throughout scripture if you have been born again. Read the sermon on the mount and that’s a good start. Jesus the Christ is our Savior and teacher and there is only one thing that matters. Either you are a sheep that follows him or a goat. Either you are a Spiritual Jew and grafted into God’s family or you are outside the faith. Either you are the wheat or the Tares. There is no category of picking and choosing the 10 unshakeable laws and they will be here forever. Why do men seek to teach the doctrines of man as the Commandments of God? Changing both times and laws is talked of in scripture in a not good light. “Not one jot or tittle” remember?
You can lose your salvation! the word Matthew 24:13 says IF you endure till the end you will be saved! Ezekiel 18:24-26 But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way not just? Is it not your ways that are not just? When a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice, he shall die for it; for the injustice that he has done he shall die
You could have lost your salvation "before" Christ died! Why? Because Christ hasnt had paid yet and his believers were still under the law! So it doesnt make any sense if you take verses from the old Testament and verses that refer to the time BEFORE christ died! Thats the wounder of Christ dead: HE PAID ONCE AND FOR ALL AND WE BECOME A NEW CREATION ONCE AND FOR ALL! Read the bible in context pls!! God bless you! we all are learning!
peace okay,Then the Ten Commandments Should Be Ignored then since that's the Old Testament??,I see What your trying to say,But why did Jesus say work OUT Your Own Salvation With Fear And Trembling? Why did he say Carry Your Cross DAILY? Is there not the unforgivable Sin of Blasphemy if Committed knowingly? Yes I agree we are all learning here,But I don't believe you can live like Hell 6 days a Week and show up to Church clap your hands to two songs and put tithes in a Offering plate and Return back to the same mess 2 minutes after leaving church and believe that your keeping your salvation,No Sir,I refuse to believe that, Relationship with God doesn't work that way, Meaning ,Have it Your Way?, Never Mind the Bible or Anything Else to do with God or What he Says,I'm Sorry,But Hell is Full of People Believing this Extreme Grace Message,Sad,Sad Story and Ending For Alot of People Following and Believing That Message,God Bless You
Exodus 32: 31-33 And Moses returned unto the Lord, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin-; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. You can lose it...therefore watch and pray and endure to the end.
YHWHHisholy amen, that scripture in Matthew 24:13 is referring the to the Jews in the tribulation. The church won't be here during that time, we will be with Jesus already caught up to heaven
So, I’m confused. I think I accepted Christ as a child. But then, I fell into sexual sin as a teen and ignored God’s voice. At 17, I cried out to God for help and re said the sinners prayer. My life has not been the same. This burdens me since I’m wondering if I never knew Christ as a child, why did I have such faith? Why did I read the Bible on my own will? Also, do I need to be rebaptized? It’s really stressing me because I have to share my testimony soon to become a member of my church.
Sometimes I wonder the same. I was mad last year and thought “let’s try putting religion away”. That didn’t last long. I quickly realized I wanted to stay with God and do right. I don’t think I really understood these things though. Not properly anyway. I had the issue of “am I saved or not”. Finally came to the conclusion that I thought I was. I am still being led to God but what if it’s my own vanity?
I don't think you have anything to be afraid about as long as you believe in Christ now. If you ever lost your way, all you need to do is come back in alignment with God. Believing in Christ implies that you consider him your Lord or master. However, he is a loving master. He is waiting for you to come back in fellowship with him. He will not push you away. He died so restore fellowship between you and the father. Don't accept any feeling of condemnation. Repent and move on with Christ with boldness.
I think this question is misunderstood I think we can lose our salvation but only if we choose to leave God. It cannot be taken from us, but we can give it up. All the verses he quoted were about nothing being able to take our salvation. It cannot be lost but can be given away.
The question isn't "Can you lose your salvation" it's "Can God lose his child". It also begs the question: who is the first mover in salvation? You or God? If salvation is God's work, then why would you believe that he won't complete his work, when scripture says the opposite (Philippians 1:6, Romans 8:28)? Salvation belongs to the Lord (Psalm 3:8)
Nope, a truly saved believer will never turn away 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
You are wrong. The Bible is very clear on many passages. To name one: 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;.
John 10:27-29 King James Version (KJV) 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
The correct question is: "Can a Believer Walk Away From Their Faith and Stop Believing". And the correct SCRIPTURAL answer is YES, it can and DOES happen. 1 Tim 4:1 states it VERY clearly "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils". Any Pastor who teaches otherwise is BLIND and shortsighted...
Let me share from the writings of Paul: "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Hebrews 6: 4-6 and in another place he writes this: "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins." Hebrews 10: 26
My Personal Heavenly oh righteous Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ the Holy Ghost God the Father hath said preached unto his excellent Prophet Moses within Exodus 32:33 King James Version (KJV) 33 And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen. Now Exodus 32:33 cannot condemn anyone after the death of my True Almighty God the eternal Heavenly oh righteous Father the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth Amen. Now My God the Father the Lord Jesus Christ says Exodus 32:33 is the law of Almighty God the Lord Jesus Christ Heavenly oh righteous Father Amen. Now Real True Born Again Christians Believers cannot goeth back under the law to be lost to be blotted out of the Lambs book of life as the Same God the Father the Lord Jesus Christ spoken unto his excellent Prophet Moses in Exodus 32:33 he Christ Jesus my Holy risen Saviour Lord he said preached unto his excellent Apostle Paul to said preached unto us within Romans 6:14 King James Version (KJV) 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen Now because of The Holy righteous Voices Of my True Almighty God the eternal Heavenly oh righteous Saviour the Lord Yeshua Messiah Jesus Christ Scripture cannot contradicts other Holy righteous Voices of my True Almighty God the eternal Father the Lord Jesus Christ Exodus 32:33 is old covernant law while New Testament Real True Born Again Christians Believers and Real True Born Again Christians Believers like myself on this sinful fallen earth today are under the new covernant of grace of where the fear of God will never maketh his Sheep Real True Born Again Christians Believers to depart from him my True Almighty God the eternal oh righteous Father the Lord Jesus Christ hath said preached unto his excellent Prophet Jeremiah to Prophecy within Jeremiah 32:40 King James Version (KJV) 40 And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen. Just like animal sacrifices in the old testament hath been fulfilled done away so too the law of ordinances of commandments of the old testament law as Christ Jesus hath said preached unto his excellent Apostle Paul to said preached within Ephesians 2:14-16 King James Version (KJV) 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen. And one TKO Verse to knock satan and his demons out to disprove the false teaching of Real True Born Again Christians Believers can lose Salvation is the True the Lord Yeshua Messiah Jesus Christ the Holy Spirit God the eternal Godhead is for all eternity going to finish his every Sheep Real True Born Again Christians Believers faith therefore Every Real True Born Again Christians Believers cannot lose their faith in my True Almighty God the eternal Heavenly oh righteous Father the Joy of Christ Jesus Holy righteous Voice Words within Hebrews 12:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen.
he is really talking about non protestant kind of salvation cause he didn't really say anything that i don't particularly agree with but he didn't mention some things that my church would say like differentiating between grace we got by faith alone as a gift and the work of grace in us after a man is justified by grace through faith i think the bible and the early church fathers are clear about that.
Can a believer lose their salvation? Well since 'salvation' is based on belief; then no; a 'believer' can not. Salvation is assurance. Confidence that we are forgiven in Christ.
Man i wish people more people will understand like you , The Gospel is so simple yet they wanna make it so hard to understand. Let's rest in Christ. can i say may God bless you ?
You can lose you salvation! Romans 11:22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.
YHWHisholy amen sure in the same way if you reject god’s grace (kindness) and renounce your salvation... but the issue in the video is can a believer who affirms Jesus as his savior lose his salvation through his works...
YHWHisholy amen Think more about God's long suffering. His willingness and strength and steadfastness. You're nuts if you think we are the assurer of what God has already freely given us without cost from us. Don't put yours' or others' weakness as stronger than God's strength and will. Our seemingly loss of God's hand on us; is our lack of confidence in ourselves; but be aware that the one your really dishonoring is God.
YHWHisholy amen If you think you can lose your salvation, then your nuts. If YOU can lose it, that means that YOU are doing something to keep it. Which will give you a little boasting room wouldn’t it? Once saved always saved IS Biblical. But it’s not a license to sin like your thinking. Give me any verse you want about “losing salvation” and I’ll give you one that proves you cannot. Scripture CANNOT contradict Scripture. 2 Timothy 2:15 King James Version (KJV) 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Read the whole chapter of Romans 11. It starts off by saying twice "Does God cast away His own people? Godforbid" Verse 22 says you can be cut off like the Jews were. But if you read verse 21 it says exactly why the Jews were cut off. Because of UNBELIEF. Just like Judas. Judas was never saved. Jesus said he never believed and was a devil from the beginning. All through out the old and new testement, the people that are "cut off" are people that are supposed to believe but don't. The ones who are cut off are likened to a house built on sand rather than the rock which is Christ. They are the goats. The bad ground. There's wheat and there's tare. Good fish and bad fish. Good meaning in Christ and bad meaning not saved. Of course people go to hell for unbelief. But It's impossible for somebody who's born again to not believe because believing is what caused them to be born again. And it's written that whoever is born of God overcomes the world. His sheep will never perish. Nothing can separate them from the love of God in Christ Jesus. Whoever believes in Jesus already has eternal life and He loses none from His hand.
This topic has made the Christians world war against each other 😂 lol To me you can chose to be disobedience or to walk away from faith in God To live lifestyle just like unbeliever do Than the questions is once for saved always saved ???? I don’t think so There are time ....... time ..... time The holy sprit not dwelling in the person anymore.
Christine Pence IT'S A FALSE PRACTICE THAT YOU CAN LOSE IF YOU WALK AWAY FROM GOD. IN THIS PRESENT DISPENSATION, A BELIEVER CAN "NEVER" LOSE HIS SALVATION. EVEN IF WE MAKE MISTAKES.
The conditional statements in Scripture, that sounds like you're going to lose salvation, are not talking about losing salvation. There talking about losing rewards. It is the reward that you lose, not the salvation that you lose, if in fact you do not endure.
No one can snatch them from the Father's hand. But then the Father can cut the branch that does not bear fruit. So you can still be thrown to Hell. There is no eternal security.
@@daogdaog WHY WOULD JESUS WARN NOT TO BE DECEIVED? BECAUSE THAT TEACHING OF JESUS IS NOT FROM US. IT'S FOR THE NATION ISRAEL. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DISPENSATION OF THE GRACE OF GOD?
@@daogdaog HAVE YOU SEEN THE VERSE MT.15:24 DURING HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY HIS MINISTRY WAS FOCUS ON THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL... ARE YOU A LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL?
+David Anzaldua you can't lose salvation. It is a free gift. You can't lose a free gift. You can only lose something that requires your maintenance and is dependent on your work or expires. Plus Christ tells people who thought they needed to works for salvation to depart I never knew you. NEVER KNEW YOU.
+bible4truth you don't gain by works nor is it forever, spiritual works must come forth if we are saved though. It just comes naturally. And if I gave you a dollar and you lost it that is free so you can lose a free gift. That verse is talking about once saved always saved not works. They think that just because they recite a sinners prayer and think they're saved forever that they don't have to work at it anymore and that's not the case.
If it comes naturally then it isn't a work. Something that comes naturally would be a work of God. I used to bite my fingernails until they bled since childhood. Two weeks before I got saved I just stopped, and it wasn't my doing it was God's. I take it as God reaching out to me and taking something away from me that was destructive as a sign that he reached out to me first before I even considered taking his hand.
salvation is a gift and we have to recieve it. but you still have the ability through free will to throw away that gift even after accepting it. When the Lord Jesus says in revelation because you are a luke warm Christian I will spit you aout implies that you were once a part of the body of Christ but because of your countious wilfull sinning your name will be blotted out of the book of life. Once saved always saved is a demonic belief thats gives you a license to sin and causes you to do the opposite of REPENTING something that not only Jesus commanded us to do but all of the apostles as well. So I can go to church one day claim Jesus as my Lord and Savior then turn around and sin all i want then die then go to heaven? Not according to the word of our Lord Jesus. Revelations 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are in this book: 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life," So the fact that your name can be removed from the book of life implies that it was once there and it is removable through your own actions. We are our own worst enemies when we allow demonic forces to influnce our lives through sinning. Do not twist Gods words. Always ask Him for correction if you even think you might be wrong.
There is literally nothing you can do that would make God remove you from his hands. Why are people interpreting different from what the literal words written in the bible say? You are his forever if you are saved. There absolutely will be people who start to have unbelief, it talks about it in the bible. And he will put your mind back where it was, you are not unsaved. It's called being shipwrecked what the bible says. We are saved because of the finished work of christ. May grace be upon you and your family, God bless
@@sfiegura "Forgiven" is the main word. "Saved" is assurance; and is our take. I'm no trying to mince words but when some say we lose our salvation; it's really just losing our "confidence" in the Lord; but we have to know that we do not lose the forgiveness wrought by Jesus on the cross. My meaning is "saved" and "forgiven" are not equally interchangeable.
@@theresnohell3144 sorry I was actually responding to the other guy that originally posted the post, letting him know that nothing you do can possibly remove you from God's hand once you are saved. When you're born and have a father, in the flesh, can you do anything to make him NOT your father anymore? Nope, same concept haha
@@sfiegura yes; ok. "Once saved always saved" is true. "Once forgiven always forgiven"; through the cross of Christ; is true. 'Saved' is our take. 'Forgiven' is God's "take". So really where it ultimately matters is what God is doing. Our "buy-in"; 'knowledge of'; is inconsequential to God's work; but very consequential to our learning; "our take"... God's work in us.
Yes you can in three ways 1. God makes exception for you 2. God changes His mind 3. You’re wrong about the doctrine of eternal security (humans are wrong often) Repent and fear God
Of course. The Bible says it over and over and over. 1) 2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2) 1Chr6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Paul was talking to CHRISTIANS! 3) Luke 15:24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry. Son was DEAD, but made ALIVE AGAIN ... only because he repented and came BACK to his father. 4) John 15:5 I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast [them] into the fire, and they are burned. To "REMAIN" is a present participle. It means to continue. All who do not REMAIN, will be cast into Hellfire. 5) Matthew 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 6) Hebrews 6:4 For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame. 7) 1Corith 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. 32 If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die. 33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. 34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak [this] to your shame. Every day we die. There is no such thing as once saved, always saved. Otherwise, we would not need to crucifiy our flesh DAILY! 8) Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 9) 1 Cor. 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring [it] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. 10) What about the man that is saved, and whose house is swept clean of evil spirits, only for that demon to return and find it swept clean, goes out to find 7 demons far stronger than itself, and re-enter. How many times have I seen someone that backslide into sin be a worst person AFTER Salvation than before? Even the Scriptures say that it would have been better for such people to never get saved to begin with. It does not, however, suggest that they were never saved as these Calvinist do. 11) Romans 11v22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.Paul is warning the Christians not to be arrogant. You are ADOPTED, not natural sons. You are GRAFTED, not natural branches. And since God did not spare the angles nor the Jews, you will not be spared either if you sin against God. 12) Exodus 32v33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. You can't be blotted OUT of something that you are not already IN. Clearly, that once saved always saved is a Calvanist lie. 13) Revelations 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels Blotting out IS an option, so, OSAS is a lie.
Exodus 32: 31-33 And Moses returned unto the Lord, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold. Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin-; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. You can lose it...therefore watch and pray and endure to the end.
My Personal Heavenly oh righteous Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ the Holy Ghost God the Father hath said preached unto his excellent Prophet Moses within Exodus 32:33 King James Version (KJV) 33 And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen. Now Exodus 32:33 cannot condemn anyone after the death of my True Almighty God the eternal Heavenly oh righteous Father the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth Amen. Now My God the Father the Lord Jesus Christ says Exodus 32:33 is the law of Almighty God the Lord Jesus Christ Heavenly oh righteous Father Amen. Now Real True Born Again Christians Believers cannot goeth back under the law to be lost to be blotted out of the Lambs book of life as the Same God the Father the Lord Jesus Christ spoken unto his excellent Prophet Moses in Exodus 32:33 he Christ Jesus my Holy risen Saviour Lord he said preached unto his excellent Apostle Paul to said preached unto us within Romans 6:14 King James Version (KJV) 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen Now because of The Holy righteous Voices Of my True Almighty God the eternal Heavenly oh righteous Saviour the Lord Yeshua Messiah Jesus Christ Scripture cannot contradicts other Holy righteous Voices of my True Almighty God the eternal Father the Lord Jesus Christ Exodus 32:33 is old covernant law while New Testament Real True Born Again Christians Believers and Real True Born Again Christians Believers like myself on this sinful fallen earth today are under the new covernant of grace of where the fear of God will never maketh his Sheep Real True Born Again Christians Believers to depart from him my True Almighty God the eternal oh righteous Father the Lord Jesus Christ hath said preached unto his excellent Prophet Jeremiah to Prophecy within Jeremiah 32:40 King James Version (KJV) 40 And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen. Just like animal sacrifices in the old testament hath been fulfilled done away so too the law of ordinances of commandments of the old testament law as Christ Jesus hath said preached unto his excellent Apostle Paul to said preached within Ephesians 2:14-16 King James Version (KJV) 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen. And one TKO Verse to knock satan and his demons out to disprove the false teaching of Real True Born Again Christians Believers can lose Salvation is the True the Lord Yeshua Messiah Jesus Christ the Holy Spirit God the eternal Godhead is for all eternity going to finish his every Sheep Real True Born Again Christians Believers faith therefore Every Real True Born Again Christians Believers cannot lose their faith in my True Almighty God the eternal Heavenly oh righteous Father the Joy of Christ Jesus Holy righteous Voice Words within Hebrews 12:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain Amen.
I’ve always struggled with this question. Some ppl use God’s grace to remain sinning even after they accept Christ. Jesus didn’t die just for us to accept him then intentionally do what we want & use his sacrifice as an escape goat. Yes we will fall sometimes but it should never be because we are intentionally choosing to sin. We have to deny ourselves daily so that it’s not our will, but God’s will being done. & when we do fall repent, get back up & ask the Holy Spirit to help us. If a husband cheats on his wife, naturally speaking we will say that’s not love... so how do we see our relationship with Christ? God is the final judge & He knows the intentions of our heart, & that matter
Some were never saved in the first place. Others who are genuinely saved may struggle with sin, but because the Holy Spirit has given us a new moral conscience, there is remorse and repentance and a will to turn away from sin. THAT's the difference.
Tim Welch Many today think the same as you do. But what should be of interest to us all is how does the BIBLE view this way of thinking? Does the BIBLE agree with it? Allow me to explain. Christians concerned about their salvation may also wish to consider Jesus' declaration that "he that endureth to the end shall be saved." (Matthew 10:22; 24:12, 13; Mark 13:13) And the apostle Paul comments similarly: "For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end." (Hebrews 3:14) Time and time again Paul likens the Christian's course to a "race" that must be run to the FINISH. "Let us run with patience the race that is set before us," he urged the Hebrews. (Hebrews 12:1) To enter the race, we as sinners must take the necessary steps for salvation: hearing and accepting the Word of God, believing in Jesus Christ and his ransom sacrifice, repenting of our sins and being baptized. In this way, we can get 'saved' "from this crooked generation", as Peter exhorted those gathered at Pentecost. Unbelievers are outside the race, having failed to enter by getting "saved." (Acts 2:37-40; Romans 10:13, 14) But once entered in the race by being "saved", a Christian takes "hold of the life which is life indeed." But is it possible to lose that grip on life? Paul answers with this question: "Do you not know that in a race all the runners compete, but only one receives the prize?" In the Christian race, Paul indicates the "one" who receives the prize is anyone who FINISHES the race. Therefore, Paul urges, "So run that you may obtain it." Then, using himself as an example to make the point of his illustration, he continues: "I pommel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified." (1 Timothy 6:19; 1 Corinthians 9:24-27) Did you notice that evidently the apostle, who sure was a "saved" Christian, believed that even HE could be "disqualified" from the race. Yet as long as he CONTINUED to 'run that he might obtain' the prize, remaining in the race, salvation was only then assured. This is why Christians who 'remain' in the race can be said to 'have everlasting life.' But if they should ever quit the race, they are 'disqualified', losing their hold on everlasting life. So in conclusion as we can see by what we read and what is taught in the BIBLE, 'once saved, always saved' does not mean we are done, and have guaranteed life, but by enduring til the end!
Sorry strong heart: you are deceived. Yiou cannot read your own private interpretation into scripture. Paul warns about this time and time again. See the passage romans 5:1-2 God promises salvation to all who believe. there is no race/ You are using humanistic teaching to justify man's law not God's. You are confusing salvation with rewards and inheritance. If you mix the gospel with rewards you will only get more confused. Besides in a race there is one first place winner and then everyone else/ We dont all get gold medals. We dont deserve heaven its a free gift. You need to read the bible straightforward/ I might suggest a good book on how to study the bible with basic reading and hermeneuctics.
Sorry, Tim but YOU are. So you are going to say that JESUS and the apostle PAUL have been deceived? Because all I have quoted comes from the Bible and from what Jesus and Paul stated. Yes we will be saved if we believe but we cannot ignore OTHER scriptures in the BIBLE that tell us we must endure til the end, we must finish the race. And when the Bible says faith without works is DEAD. Those verses are there for a reason. They are clear there is no need for our "own private interpretation". The illustration used regarding a race is not saying that only 'one' will win. What the point was is that to win we have to FINISH the race. Of course it is not meant for 'one' because the Bible says there is a 'great crowd' an infinite number who will be saved. But just as JESUS endured til the end so do we. Life is indeed a gift, but remember it is because God's undeserving kindness towards us we even have a chance. Why did Jesus come down to earth and die for us? So we could learn from his example and do as he taught us to do. If we do not do as we are told in the scriptures or go against God's teachings, do you seriously think we will still receive the gift of life? Then what would have been the point for Jesus to leave his heavenly place to come to earth and teach us if we can just do whatever we want because no matter what we will be rewarded with life? Does that make any sense? Of course not! Because I have read the Bible I am aware of these things. I suggest you do the same. Best regards...
Ephesians 2:8-9 and other passages in Romans and titus i will not list them all/ heaven is a free gift. this race you refer to is about discpleship and is costly but eternal life is a freely given to those who accept it. this is the simple gospel
Isolating 1-2 verses and twisting them from what they literally say does not help your case. It only continues the brainwashing of those who are trying to escape the life of the flesh and follow the Gospel of Jesus. You wicked man! May the Lord rebuke you! Read on for I will prove you wrong by context... Read it more closely [Romans 8]. When he says "nor any other creature" it is not in contrast to the height or depth, which are not creatures. It is in contrast to YOU! There are angels mentioned and principalities mentioned, but the latter is a status, not a creature. And powers are not creatures either, but the forces. There is only one kind of creature mentioned here and it is separated by 6 inanimate things before Paul says nor any other creature. He is contrasting the other creatures to YOU as a creature. That is clear from the larger context. The attacks and distress, tribulation, famine, nakedness, peril, and the sword (v 35). We are more than conquerors over these things. THAT is when he makes this famous list of things that cannot separate us from God's love in Christ. Nowhere in any of this chapter does Paul even suppose or imagine to state that we cannot separate ourselves from the love of God in Christ. He would not anyway, since by committing the unpardonable sin we could separate ourselves from the love of God in Christ. No one could make us do that, but we certainly could. Paul does not contradict his Lord Jesus Christ. So stop trying to make his words contradict Christ. When you as a teacher contradict the Lord you behave as a false teacher, according to the description in Jude 4. You teachers cannot continue to twist Scripture any longer and get away with it without it being noticed. Your henchmen will come and scream bloody murder! But that is expected that the masses will be on the broad road to hell and not listening carefully to the Gospel that Jesus actually literally preached. And why would you host a false teacher on your channel and call it truth? What does it make you? Cowards as adversaries of Christ. therootedword.com/doctrines/false-doctrines/lordship-of-sinful-nature/
YOU CAN EASILY LOOSE YOUR SALVATION. Too many scriptures to list. So just live anyway you want after saying some words(the sinners prayer) and still get into Heaven. He just said faith w/out works is dead. So works are vitally important.
+cpgone That's the problem. They are not JUST WORDS. If there is not a true repentence, i.e., acknowledging that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, believing that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and rose the third day and is alive forever more. Anyone can say words. Even Satan believes that Jesus is real, but he never accepted him in his heart. If there is not a time a person can remember asking Jesus in his heart and believing that, through faith, he did then I would have to question if that person ever had a true personal relationship with Jesus.
+cpgone Your comment - "YOU CAN EASILY LOOSE YOUR SALVATION. Too many scriptures to list. So just live anyway you want after saying some words(the sinners prayer) and still get into Heaven. He just said faith w/out works is dead. So works are vitally important." My comment - The false teaching that salvation can be lost does not come from the Bible, but from Arminianism which is a false doctrine that uses many Biblical passages OUT OF CONTEXT and eisegeted. "Good works" are done by many Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Roman Catholics, but these are clearly UNSAVED people. "Good works" can be seen among the boy/girl scouts of America, among philanthropists who donate huge amounts of money to charity, and even atheists can do "good works", but many are not Christian and unsaved. These people can sometimes exist side by side with Christians that are saved.
So your a robot. Not able to lose salvation. God makes no robots. Phi. 2.12 , Work in that verse is and ONGOING work, I agree lots of people do good works, Sure the label Christian esp. in modern times means little. Look at Gaga and similar ilk wearing crosses. "YOU/ME CAN EASILY LOOSE SALVATION.
cpgone Your comment - " So your a robot. Not able to lose salvation. God makes no robots. Phi. 2.12 , Work in that verse is and ONGOING work, I agree lots of people do good works, Sure the label Christian esp. in modern times means little. Look at Gaga and similar ilk wearing crosses. "YOU/ME CAN EASILY LOOSE SALVATION." My comment - If salvation can be "lost", then it is no longer eternal in nature, but is like fragile glass. People who believe and teach that salvation can be lost are in essence calling Jesus/God and the apostle Paul liars in John 5:24, John 10:28-29, 2 Timothy 2:13, Romans 8:38-39. Your understanding of Philippians 2:12 is PATHETIC. The context of this passage is Paul exhorting the Philippian Christians to "work out" the salvation that they ALREADY POSSESSED in his presence as well as in his absence. These were already eternally saved people. Paul did not want them to slack off in his absence in regards to FELLOWSHIP/SANCTIFICATION practices. Paul is not talking about positional justification here. Paul did not want them to become lazy which leads to spiritual atrophy/stagnancy in the faith and he did not want them to be missing in action. A person can have a complete weight set in his possession in his garage, BUT how will that weight set profit the person's physique and muscles if that person never "works out"? The weight set is in the person's possession. Will the person "lose" the weight set if he seldom or never "works out"?? NO. Same principle applies to Philippians 2:12.
Be careful! You do lose your salvation! The bible says the ones who persevere to the end , they will enter to heaven. That man needs to read the bible again
Judgment starts in the house of GOD. These self appointed Pastors better wear an asbestos suit (I stole that from a Pastor). Yeah, he that endureth until the end, so what's up with Pre--Trib rapture? False teaching. KEEP THE FAITH.
Richard Merrill amen friends. I’m exposing this false doctrine on my channel. Jesus plainly warned his disciples in John 15:6 that if they didn’t abide in Him or continue to obey then they would be cut off, thrown away and burned. I don’t know how you could take it any other way, but it seems like people will try anything to not believe the truth. God bless you.
@@abideintheWord Hello my Brother. I just checked out your channel & all I can say is we are on the same page. You have undoubtedly heard this 1, OSAS Makes GOD sound like he said Heaven is Burger King, Have it your way. So many so called "Pastors" are biblically illiterate regurgitating junk they learned in cemetery school (I watched your video on seminary). Years ago there was a survey asking US Pastors "Is the BIBLE the WORD OF GOD?" The % who said that it wasn't astounded me, I think it was near 40%? I don't like false doctrine, Pastors, teachers, self appointed Prophets, etc. Keep up your good work. May OUR LORD FATHER ALMIGHTY BLESS YOU & YOURS & let HIM be magnified & the earth be filled with HIS GLORY, in the name of JESUS, AMEN.
1 John 2:3-4 KJV [3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Why are you asking a Pastor. A pastor is NOT in the office of a Teacher in the Church of the real Lord Jesus Christ. Only in the Apostate church do you find the organization messed up, with offices blurred and some of the offices completely banned.
Mr. Wagner asks how you can lose that which you did nothing to earn. It is not a matter of losing salvation by not deserving it; it is a matter of losing salvation by losing faith. He is confusing merit with conditionality. Forgiveness is conditional. One example is that we must forgive our debtors. Mat 6:14 "For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions."
Saints of the Most High God we must read the Most High God’s Word for ourselves IN context not man’s and “Study to show yourself APPROVED a willing Workman that needs not be ashamed RIGHTLY dividing the Word of truth.” 2 Tim.2:15 “line upon line precept upon precept here a little there a little!” Is.28:10 “You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble!” James 2:19 “REPENT ye therefore, and BE CONVERTED, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.” Acts 3:19 “For we must ALL appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things DONE in his body, according to that he hath DONE, whether it be good or bad.” 2 Cor.5:10 “... faith WITHOUT WORKS is dead!” James 2:14 “For it is impossible to bring back to repentance those who were once enlightened-those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the power of the age to come- 6 and who then turn away from God. It is impossible to bring such people back to repentance; by rejecting the Son of God, they themselves are nailing him to the cross once again and holding him up to public shame.” Heb.6:4-6 “Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which IGNORANT and UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION. Therefore, dear friends, SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED, BE ON YOUR GUARD so that YOU MAY NOT BE CARRIED AWAY by the ERROR of the LAWLESS and FALL FROM YOUR SECURE POSITION.” 2 Pet.3:15-17 See also Rev.3 the 7 Churches! #OSASisafalsedoctrine #notbyworksALONE #shehaditrighttheFIRSTtime ❤️💯
“Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.” 1 John 3:1-11
If you're not keeping HIS commands you are already lost. (Revelation 14:12 IRS) And his name is Yah or Yahuah!!! (Psalms 68:4 IRS)Not the pagan title "lord" or "god" which should be Elohim. Stop teaching this watered down half truth. Also the Messiahs name is Yahushua! (Matthew 1:22 IRS) which means Yah saves or Yah is salvation. How can anyone be saved in Jesus name which means nothing?!! Stop It!!! Sick of the lies! And the correct bible version.
Hattielynn Fridge The New Testament was obviously written in Greek. Paul, Peter etc wrote Jesus in the Greek language/manner. A translation into another language is essentially uncontroversial.
Thank you to all you believers who contend for truth and divide the word rightly. Thank you for everyone who proudly professes the truth that once you are saved, God will keep His sheep. Every. Last. One. We will not be cast out or forsaken and we will not be able to loose our salvation. 2 Timothy 2:13 English Standard Version if we are faithless, he remains faithful- for he cannot deny himself. He is faithful to keep His promises and He promises this: John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ... For God loved the world in this way: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. Those who teach against this do it because they expect to get in to heaven not by the righteousness of Jesus Christ but by their own obedience and self-will to be faithful. To which God will say "depart from me" because their life was lived in rejection of the salvific FINISHED work of Jesus Christ. Yes once saved always saved. This doesn't mean if you say the sinners prayer you are automatically saved. IF you are saved, you will see work of the Holy Spirit in your life, ridding you of sin, causing you to walk in faith, read Scripture and obey joyfully the things God commands. So examine yourself to see if you are and if you are not, pray unceasingly to God. He reveals Himself to those who seek Him.
I totally love all your teachings and thank God for good truthful solid bible teachers especially in these high perilous days of deception that daily grieve me and plague me to tears and prayer .... but I 100% Agree with you but the only thing is can you explain to me why Christ tells the church of Sardis in Revelation that if they do the things in which He rebukes and has against them if they repent He will then "NOT" blot their name out of the book of Life .... and also Paul exhorts us to "work out" which again proves what you say that we can't "work for" but it does say "work out" with fear and trembling. If a person can not lose their salvation why would they need to fear and tremble? Also Christ talks about many people who fall away and become deceived by lying prophets in the end times but He also says "if possible the elect" elect means chosen! Help me bring some clarity to this bc I totally agree with this teaching and for me? I know I am totally saved by grace through faith alone lest I boast .... but I know a lot of lukewarm Christians who don't understand the Bible and take it literally and most of them don't pick it up bc if not understanding it and their lifestyles as Christians are questionable if they are truly saved! Help me please understand those scriptures bc if it is not the case for the immature and ignorant believer that may have just came to the Lord and got saved and maybe struggles understanding God's word or be obedient to His Spirits's voice! Help me please if that's ok?
