Former aircraft refueller (small airport and off airport contract work). Never needed to but came close to running the fuel truck on Jet A-1. Was responding to a major flood in a remote area to support rescue helicopters and was struggling to find diesel on route, but was plenty of oil to buy.
Haha, I work GA and run a tank of av gas a few times a year in my car. (Or if we have to defuel a plane away from our airport) runs great smells better.
Always a good idea to pinch in some 2 stroke oil when you have an old mechanical diesel. The fuel systems hate the new low sulphur diesel that won't lube for shit.
@@--SPQR-- because it won't lol we all know engines can't run on water. They could add it to gas and see how long it takes to clog the fuel system. Honestly though what a weird thing to think of
@@Sandkei That 12v doesn’t owe the world anything, that thing has been through it all so if it pulled a rapid disassembly on the dyno it was meant to be. 😅
@@DirtyD07 have you heard of haggard garage before? lot of lore behind that name lol, if i remember correctly they blew up big time around late 2015 going into 2016-2017 so if i had to guess thats when the collab was, pretty sure the video is still floating around somewhere, its from when the haggard boys "built" the little miata that could into the giveaway car and adam and jimmy pulled up to their old old shop in CT and did some donuts in a cul-de-sac and got yelled at by some cross fit people lmfao, edit before posting this comment i just double checked and adam lz's video with the haggard crew is from 7 years ago so it lines up with what i said and its still up on youtube, however the haggard garage video is lost to time
My 1997 Nissan TD27 ran on any old oil I could find for a few years (2010-2015). Lived close to a tiny airfield and often got A1 that had to be discarded. Mix it with cooking oil, kerosene, black diesel (old engine oil), and transformer oil with around a 50% mix of normal diesel to keep the consistency right to go through the pump. Always add 2 stroke at minimum 200:1 ratio. Motor and pump survived five years of that and just went on with life after that on normal diesel after we moved from the small town. Still going strong enough as my daily driver today.
Yes, Jet Fuel is just super clean Kerosene which Diesel engines can run on. I worked for a aircraft maintenance facility and whenever a plane came in for a major maintenance we had to drain the planes fuel tanks. Instead of disposing it, a lot of the mechanics drove Diesel trucks and ran their trucks off it. They literally got free gas for their vehicles and ran them on Jet fuel aka Kerosene.
Depending on the engine setup.some diesel engines won’t start on jet fuel but will run on it . Where I work we had a vehicle that would not start on jet fuel but would run fine on jetfuel. It was a duel tank so one tank we had diesel for starting and then would switch tanks to run off the excess jet fuel.
I ran 1000 liters (260 Gallons) of 2 stroke jet fuel through a Ford 302 Cleveland in a 1966 FJ40 Toyota Landcruiser. The fuel was from a ski race boat that ran 2 stroke outboard motors where the owners only kept the fuel for a couple of months after opening and mixing the drums of fuel. I still have the car but it is now just a farm truck.
Jets can run on diesel, and diesels can run on jet fuel. Jet fuel is just terrible for diesels like my truck that rely on the fuel as the only source of lubrication and cooling for the injection pump because it lacks the lubricity that diesel has. So with a lubricity additive like 2-cycle oil, it'll run just fine on it without damage.
Garrett, I actually have a little bit of experience/expertise in this area due to some testing I've done with the Army as a test engineer on some new aircraft ground support equipment for their helicopters. The equipment had a Cummins engine that was designed to power aircraft 115/400hz, 28VDC, bleed air, and hydraulics. We were required to test on both green diesel and then also Jet A and log system performance. When doing a maximum load test, we lost around 5-10% of total engine power when using Jet A. Our fuel system also had a lubricating fuel filter which added lubrication to the system when running the jet fuel.
When I was in the Army I was always told we could fill the trucks with JP8 and run them if we needed to. It’s widely used throughout the military for this I believe. I maybe wrong I was not a mechanic and I’m sure someone will know better.
I've started to sprinkle that word into my every day conversations at work when discussing various engineering solutions on projects. The looks on the faces of not just the internal engineers but vendor engineer teams is hilarious.
Loved seeing ChrisFix, Hes helped alot of us DIY guys over the years. I'd love to see him in a crown vic going around the freedom factory with alot of other youtubers. Also would love to see Cleet and the boys get into Matts Offroad Games.
@@mortifyd4805 Unsure, kind of doubt it as they are doing good production, but still not full on production/edit to make it "professional", but I think thats why many of us like it so much. Also takes so much time off the edit/videographer turnaround time.
@@ericwilliams2117 We've got a 93k mile 24V Cummins sitting in a 99 dodge 2500 that a tree fell on. Not even broke in yet. Would be a good one to stuff in that Galaxie.
this was the best science video i've seen y'all do... and the inclusion of ChrisFix was *perfect.* please have him back for more! his knowledge was a great addition to the video.
I'm so glad to see the galaxy back in Florida! I'm an old school guy and I used to love the episodes with the Galaxy in it. I'd love to see y'all purchase that car back one day. Until then, keep rippin!!
@@Scott_Buchanan we let guys take waste jet fuel …. Adding some marvel mystery oil or trans fluid … some guys just add used fryer oil from restaurants… smells much better
@@mattmcdonough707 I use MMO sometimes too, if I had an older truck I would try to burn used motor oil mixed with a little bit of gas. I watched some guys filter it with a centrifuge
I was in the Navy in the early 90's as an Aviation Fuels Technician. I was on shore duty in a remote location at the time, not on a ship. We ran ALL of our diesel engines on jet fuel for years, even our generators. No issues at all.
Thats honestly my favorite daily ride of your fleet or once owned fleet of vehicles.. its just sinister and gorgeous at the same time ... the clear coat is just icing on the cake 🎂...
A&P mech here. I used to burn Jet-A in several of my diesel over the years. Just run a little 2-stroke oil added to it. Its great in winter time, starts easier, burns cleaner. Less mpg because it doesn't have as many BTU's as diesel fuel but when its free, who cares! We had to pay to dispose of it so it worked out great! Works great in Kerosene heaters too!
100% works (toss a bit of 2 stroke oil in to keep the pump happier!). Used to work at the airport, and one of our checks was to drain off a bit of fuel from every tank. Water check. Well... "sometimes" the valve would get stuck, and 5-20 gallons would drain off before we could fix it. No sense wasting it! So it went into a few techs vehicles. This WAS 30 years ago, and my own diesel was 20 years old at the time. :D
@@299charles yes but do the math. He worked there 30 years ago, that’s the 90s. He said it was 20 years old at that point. Meaning it was made in the 70s or before?
@@Denalirsps Maybe one of those failure prone Oldsmobile diesels that GM tried back in the 70's. Or maybe they were rowdy and swapping Detroits into something.
Working with Aviation Fuel a good portion of my life we used Jet A in all of our Fuel Trucks that had no EPA junk so yes they are both a form of Kerosine just one is a lot cleaner than the other. On occasion some avgas was used in my Firebird.
I was the Division Comptroller in the Marines and I showed a unit that they didn't need to buy fuel anymore. When those fighter jets land, the fuel that is drained can not go back into the jets. They consider it contaminated for their $30M jet fighters. I told the motor transports Marines to buy a 600 gallon mobile fuel tank and keep it on the back of the truck. If you don't take it off the truck, you don't need the base environmental inspections and firefighting safety shit and be labeled a refuel point. It's mobile. We just moved it to every broken truck that was down for the 4 years I was there. JP8 alllll day
So apparently you can take waste plastic and melt it down in a moonshine still and create diesel. This is what the people in the islands in the Philippines do on remote islands. They gather plastic trash off the beach every morning and then its shredded and put into bins. Then they take large scoops of shredded plastic and melt it down in several large copper moonshine stills and make a sort of unrefined diesel fuel that is used to power the islands diesel generators. There are several videos on how to do it. I would love to see you and George make some and try it out on a donor vehicle from JH and see what kind of power and longevity you can get from it. The vehicle will have to be a pre emissions DEF vehicle because the fuel is unrefined.
I haven't looked into it so I could be wrong but I suspect they would actually get more power by using whatever they use to heat the still to instead heat a boiler to run a steam turbine.
@@wingracer1614 From what I understand the island has limited resources and is very remote. The only thing that was constantly renewed was the tremendous amount of waste plastic washing up on the beach everyday from china and india. The neat thing about the plastic was that it stored very well. They store a bunch of it and turn it into diesel when they need it. So you don't have to worry about long term storage of liquid diesel. Plus it powers boats and vehicles. They dont have much wood to burn so I think once they got an initial source of diesel that in turn is soaked and burned to create more in their stills. I'm not too sure on the details. I learned about this islands setup from a hunting trip a guy took out there. Never would have known about it unless he did.
@@John_Conner222 I understand that but if it has to be melted down and distilled, they have to be burning something to do that. And given the energy loss in any sort of conversion like that, it's possible they would get more electricity by just burning whatever that is to power a steam turbine than they get from burning the resulting fuel in a generator. But again, I don't know their specific setup and haven't run the numbers so I could be wrong though even if I am, it's still pretty inefficient.
Sulfur cause issues. People misinterpret high sulfur with lubricity when they switched from low sulfur to ultra low sulfur and people had pump failures. The issue was in order to reduce the sulfur, it requires extra refining The process also removed a lot of the lubricant waxes. So they have to add in lubricant post refining. The early version of ULSD didn't have enough and weak/worn injection pump started to fail.
MY 2003 FREIGHTLINER SPRINTER has 768k miles SULFUR CLOGS THE EGR SO BAD!? I didnt get to 700k miles by using CHEAP GAS I USE 'CENEX' fuel ONLY HIGHEST CETANE # OF ANY DIESEL NO SULFUR LESS THAN 5% BIODIESEL OR ETHANOL
@@skating4ad no, sulfur is not a lubricant. The process of removing the sulfur also removed the natural lubricants in diesel, and had to be added post refining.
Back when that 12v was built, low sulfur diesel had 500ppm sulfur content. Modern Jet fuel has 800ppm sulfur. Sulfur aids in the lubricity of the fuel. One would think jet fuel should be fine in that 12v. The reason you gained horsepower might be the cetane of Jet fuel is higher than the ULSD. Peter Griffin put it in his truck and it made it fly, so really who know why it makes truck engines run better.
Sulfur cause issues. People misinterpret high sulfur with lubricity when they switched from low sulfur to ultra low sulfur and people had pump failures. The issue was in order to reduce the sulfur, it requires extra refining The process also removed a lot of the lubricant waxes. So they have to add in lubricant post refining. The early version of ULSD didn't have enough and weak/worn injection pump started to fail.
@@CJ-jo6do Sulfur not being a good lubricant is one of the several propaganda lies to justify remove it from diesel. In the process to make ULSD a process called hydrodesulfurization (injecting hydrogen) is used. Hydrogen being highly reactive removes also polar and aromatic compounds. These are not lubricants but are carriers of lubricants. This is the concern with lowering the sulfur in aviation fuel, lack of lubrication. So jet fuel has a high sulfur content.
After the third time seeing this video in my feed I started to question if this was actually an old video or was it a new video and you brought the Galaxy back! So the forth time I investigated and yeh its definitely a new upload to put a bit of extra enjoyment back in my day😂😜🤙
When I lived in florida and went to school for aviation I knew alot of people who ran Jet A in their trucks. It was super cheap since the local airport had alot of commercial flights and sometimes they would put to much fuel in so by the time they added everything else on the plane it was heavier than they wanted so they would check the tanks ensure they had enough fuel + reserves and then they would drain some fuel. That fuel went to a special holding tank and couldn't be reused in aircraft so they got it for cheap and ran it in there 3/4 and 1 ton trucks
Credit to the 12v, it will run on just about anything. That Galaxie has always ben one of my favorite cars in the fleet. Glad to see it's being taken care of and enjoyed.
As a r/c turbine pilot, I have noticed and confirmed that jet-a has a higher flash point and a micro-microbial additive along with an anti static additive to reduce tank explosions. I like jet-a more because it is consistent. Diesel is messed with from state to state and different climates for cold and hot weather. Good video Cleetus
I always assumed yall ran them on JetA or Kerosene. The formulation changes in diesel sound like they could be a right pain. Even leaving summer fuel in a vehicle and trying to start it in the cold can show you the difference is huge between various blends. Even station to station it varies a bit.
Saw TY today at Huntsaders farm. Really wanted to say hello but he looked like he was enjoying it with family. Very awesome to see just a god welder with a sick ranger walk amongst us peasant folk.
