Can an AKIRA DEFEAT 2 Galaxy Classes? - Star Trek Starship Battles 

it definately is more powerful. While the Galaxy has more Phaser Banks, it still has the old style Torpedo tubes, that can deliver a heavy punch of 10 torpedoes a volley, but due to the fact that it uses magazines with 5 Torpedoes each on only 2 launchers it has an abyssmal reload. While the Akira on the other hand has fast loading Launchers that can only fire a single torpedo at a time, but it has 15!!! of them with a quick reload. The Shields are comparable. This gives the Akira the edge in a 1v1 engagement. In addition to that the non magazine Launchers can launch quantum torpedoes making the engagement even more one sided. In comparision, the Akira uses the exact same torpedo launchers the sovereign does, but the Sovereign only has 5 of them, while the Akira (with the torpedo pod, the only one we ever see in the show) has 3 times the amount. The Sovereign does use a lot of Type XII Phasers to compensate but even then the Akira outperforms the Sovereign in terms of Damage output. The Sovereign Refit does put them on par, but then again we do not see a Akira refit ever in the shows or movies, even though that would be overdue by the time the sovereign got a refit. The Problem is that when talking about the Akira you are talking about two different ship classes. The First Contact Akira, the ~450m Juggernaut which in terms of volume is actually only 9% smaller than the Sovereign. Or the DS9/VOY Akira, which ws only 250m long and therefore much weaker. This happened because when paramount got the digital files fromm ILM they missized the ship. So the is no real canon Akira. The ILM Akira is a beast and the federation ship with the most firepower at it's time. The Paramount Akira, is much smaller, but still deemed very powerful, since it is tasked to take on 3 Warbirds in "Message in a Bottle" while two defiants were meant to deal with the Prometheus. Assuming from that, the Akira can easily deal with a refit Galax, that would be outperformed by 3 D'deridex. Depending on the canon Alpha/Beta, the Akira may not have been meant to be a warship, but it very much turned out that way. The Beta canon development history of the Akira is actually quite interesting.

I guess it depends. If we take the DS9 tech manual, they have basically the same warp core output, but with fewer phasers, 2/3 the tonnage, and a much smaller hull(and consequently a smaller shield bubble), the Akira may indeed have more of it's total power available for shields, needing less for propulsion and phasers. Add to that those stronger shields spread over a smaller area, the Akira could be quite tanky.

@@dergrafvonzahl4734I like Ex Astris Scientia’s explanation on Akira size. It’s probably 440m and the sizing differences on screen are just due to diff CGI production for movie and tv show. Obviously it’s only 1 class.

@@Stinger913 thqt is already known isn't it? It was a data formatting error when Paramount got the digital model from ILM.

@@dergrafvonzahl4734 "The Problem is that when talking about the Akira you are talking about two different ship classes. The First Contact Akira, the ~450m Juggernaut which in terms of volume is actually only 9% smaller than the Sovereign. Or the DS9/VOY Akira, which ws only 250m long and therefore much weaker. This happened because when paramount got the digital files fromm ILM they missized the ship. So the is no real canon Akira." I disagree. All that just means is that the original figures were corrupted; they'd still be the original features though.

I should've checked the Galaxy Torpedo Specs!! 😂 I think the AI is a big limitation with this game. It was quite a hard battle to win with the Akira. I think if it was all human players it would be over very quickly for the Akira. 40 Torpedoes! 🙀 WOW. That will ruin anyones day..🖖

You do have to take into account that Badger was being nice and not using quantum torpedoes. As strong as the Galaxy were I don't really see one surviving a volley of those unscathed. The Akira being a post Wolf 359 ship might just be able to tank the opening volley, while the Akira's opening volley would almost certainly cripple the lighter shielded and armored Galaxy, knocking one out of the fight and making the Akira's job much easier. (Now if these were the Dominion War rifit Galaxy-class it would be a whole different story.)

40 would get the job done, alright. That's just the standard. You might even see command ships with additional launchers. Replacing three cargo bays, you could fit one aft ventral launcher with an armored port at the end of the tube with the launcher and magazine buried within the secondary hull. Two ventral cargo bays in the saucer module could be fitted with midship launchers. Of course, reworking the saucer aft launcher to fire between the rows of escape pods while docked would be the first order of business. Then, there's the matter of that Captain's yaht... Doubling launcher capabilities would be easy, but what wouldn't roll over after that many rounds? That excludes two to four additional phaser columns and a reinforced secondary hull after the loss of Odyssey that might support a couple phaser cannons around the deflector housing. A couple more cannons on the pylons wouldn't permit many opportunities for Jem'Hadar with delusions of glory.

"Rule of acquisition number 35, war is good for business" - Some Ferengi

Supposedly, torpedoes are set to self destruct if they don't hit their target within a set # of km to avoid just the scenario you're describing, or hitting an innocent ship or planet years or decades down the road.

Never underestimate a Ferengi's desire for wealth. Rule of acquisition #63 The riskier the road the greater the profit. Rule of acquisition #141 Only fools pay retail. ...undetonated photon torpedos may be dangerous but they free! Lol P.s. (I googled the rules of acquisition. I didn't just know them. I'm a dork but not that much of a dork!) Lol

@@compmanio36 You're partially correct. Photon torpedo warheads are matter/antimatter devices. When they reach their target the matter (including remaining deuterium) and antimatter are allowed to interact, thus detonating. Prior to that the torpedo uses a deuterium reactor to provide both power to the antimatter containment, microfusion 'sustainer' propulsion systems & guidance systems. The deuterium fuel is finite so once it runs out the torpedo loses power, the containment field drops and the matter & antimatter mix, which detonates the torpedo automatically. I've seen some comments regarding the fragments from the self-detonation flying in all directions. It doesn't happen. Although he explosion is usually a smaller yield due to the lack of deuterium, it's large enough to vapourise the entire torpedo. It is now at this point that I realise I know FAR too much about Star Trek.

does loadout matter when you only have a few launchers?

@@robinvan1983 those the galaxy class only has two launcher they can launch 10 -12 torpedoes in one volley

@@KevinBenskin Yes and due to the magazine the reload was abyssmal, While the Akira has 15 Quichfire Launchers with Rapid reload that can fire in every direction (well 13 of the 15 can) and can load Quantums which the Galaxy cannot (some Beta-Lore BS with the Quntums not being ablte to be loaded into magazine Launchers, The new Quickfire Launchers were also the reason the Quantums entered service, to compensate for the lower Alpha-strike Potential of the new Launchers).

@@KingCrab85 no the Akira was meant tonhave several mission pods, but only the torpedo pods entered service. The Akira was never meant to have civillians on board. That was the entire design idea, the threat of loss of civillians in a war scenario. This came about because of the conflict with the cardassians in 2347. Wolf 359 just increased the militarization of the vessel and made it enter service as before it was just a concept made by designers in their free time. It was meant to replace the excelsior and be multi mission but it ended up a Torpedo boat. In combat scenarios it should beat both the galaxy and the Sovereign, however it comes with drawbacks. The galaxy and Sovereign don't rely on torpedos that much, with their heavy energy based firepower they can go on long Missions, the Akira cannot it needs regular resupply of torpedos to keep being operational. The large hangar can be used as laboratories and so on, but due to it's resupply heavy defensive systems it isn't suited for long exploration missions. It was designed with only three phaser arrays, so it was never a deep space vessel. It is just to reliant on resupply. Yes the hangars can be used for ammo storage but it is a defensive ship in it's very nature, it needs supply lines. It cannot do what the Sovereign and galaxy can do, but it hits hard. The entire design is only really suited for missions close to bases. Well suited for defense and evacuations.... exploration not so much. Wait maybe ingot you wrong, are you talking about the galaxy. They couldnt fit the new launchers so that drawback stayed and became a Problem for the galaxy, the launchers are perfect for selfdefense in prolonged Engagements they aren't very good. It got additional phaser banks, but in star Trek energy weapons are close range and not as powerful as torpedoes. So the Galaxy did get additional phaser banks, great for ships way from any resupplies, but in a war scenario with supply lines it isn't optimal. The galaxy is a mobile starbase for deep space exploration, this design philosophy cannot be fixed with a refit. The galaxy is a powerhouse with it's first strike capacity, long stretched Engagements are it's weakness.

@@KingCrab85 in terms of mass the Akira is 2/3rd the size. It's a more compact design. But yeah the Galaxy was meant to be a mobile starbase. In terms of alpha strike potential it is actually really lethal. But in prolonged Engagements it is rather bad. Because it's weaponry is designed to defeat single threats. It also is more heavy on energy weapons that don't require resupply. Yes it is a deep space exploration vessel more like a mobile starbase. Ill-designed for war. The akira is a mire combat oriented design. Autonomy sacrificed for a way more lethal punch. But it needs supply lines.

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It can fire 5-6 per Launcher, 10-12 in Total. The reload is terrible due to the magazine system. While the Akira has 13 Launchers that can fire in every direction and 2 additional launchers forward, and those are the quick reload ones, that can fire only one but with a fast reload, those launchers also are able to fire quantum torpedoes. Quantums have about 50% more damage output than Photons in terms of Torpedoes the Akira has the Galaxy beat easily. As long as the Akira stays out of Phaser range it's fine. Since it only has about three Type X arrays.

​@@dergrafvonzahl4734 "Every direction" Are they on ball turrets? It appears quantums aren't spitting out of every new ship against the threat of the week. I don't remember ever seeing an Akira launching one. By the time Titan-A, it appears the new photons have sufficiently improved or quantums are restricted, I didn't see one there, either.

The KM galaxy is pretty bad. Also the AI is horrible and veers off the moment it receives incoming fire, so it can't use the large torpedo compliment it has effectively, either.

No, the Galaxy was built to beat any ship in the first volley. It could fire 10 Torpedoes simultanously. It is a beast. The Akira is just insane when it comes to firepower. the Galaxy has 4 launchers 2fore 2 aft. The Akira has 15!!! and can load Quantums. Shieldwise they are comparable.

According to Tech info the Akira was actually fitted with 18 torpedo launchers & capable of firing Quantum torpedos as well as standard torpedos. The compliment of torpedos is 225 although it's never specified in what configuration The launchers are configured as such: Type-8 single-fire launchers: 2 forward (primary hull) Type-4 single-fire launchers: 4 forward (weapons pod) 4 starboard-aft (weapons pod) 4 port-aft (weapons pod) 2 starboard (primary hull) 2 port (primary hull)

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Because it was waiting for a response to hailing frequencies.

TNG

@@darkmatter1152 Yeah TNG Galaxys were a bit delicate. Like with their rock filled consoles and fine china reactor cores...

A very very good question!

This actually comes up twice in the entire franchise. In Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, when Reliant swings around and fires a torpedo at Enterprise on her stern, Kirk immediately orders, "Sulu, divert all power to phasers!" Either Kirk was about to take a desperate gamble to try spraying phasers at Reliant or an even more desperate gamble to try shooting down the incoming torpedo. Why "even more desperate?" In the Star Trek: Voyager episode "Workforce," the Emergency Command Hologram fires a photon torpedo at a pair of incoming ships, angling the shot to pass between them. He then fires phasers at the torpedo, causing it to detonate in an explosive burst that temporarily disables both enemy ships and allows Voyager to escape. Assuming retroactive continuity anyway, which is always a risky gambit!

There were some times shown, usually against inferior technology. It still isn't a perfect defense. Reading what people write about phasers with computers is like reading claims about the Iron Dome. The game, itself isn't capable of supporting, as far as I know.

Phaser firepower on Capitol ships is low kiloton to petaton based.

Yes! In fact you collide with the planet. I made a video a while back where I threw ship into one!

@@RetroBadgerGaming ok gonna find that one