Preamp $749, Klone $190, Monk $259, Delay $399, Reverb $899, G3 Atom $799, pedal board ~$300 = about $3600 before cables, power, tax, shipping, guitars or amps, but the TONE = Priceless!!!
@@8466849 ridiculous. I started buying those expensive pedals and I didn’t like them. Totally overpriced when you can get a great pedal for way less. Learned the hard way. You can get amp heads for less.
Dan’s genius could have been used in many ways. For all we know, world peace. But one day, he heard the siren song of a fuzz face into a Marshal, and this is the benefit we all receive...
As a technical guy, I'm so proud of Mick and Dan's patience with both each other and themselves. Once you understand that all that technical mumbo-jumbo just makes life easier in the end, it makes the heart/headache worth it.
It occurs to me that this is why folks like Mick find folks like Dan. You can see Mick's eyes glazing over on the technical stuff, while Dan's light up. But at the end of the day, with them in the same room, Mick can hit '8' on his switcher and know exactly what tone he's going to get, and then they play. It's perfect!
I like the way the G3 eliminates all the nonsense you find in other switchers. You could easily make adjustments with the G3 mid gig and i think they have kept the musician in mind while designing the switcher. Very impressive.
"so midi preset one will be designated midi patch zero- or it might be called patch one- there's no standard for this stuff"- great quote that sums up the spirit of today's awesome episode. Thanks to you guys, I bought a Volante. Man- it's awesome. Now, I need a midi loop thingy to switch presets. Just hope preset one isn't labeled zero or I'll be off to rough start....Thanks for an awesome show today guys- and a brave dive into a complex world!
I actually think this episode did a better job explaining midi than the previous midi show. Whether that's because G3 is more obvious to use than G2 regarding this stuff or whether I needed it explained in a way that Mick could understand I don't know. But I am very intrigued to see the TPS pedalboard builds for 2021.
Guys... as somebody, who literally has seen every single show (not only once) and as somebody who is lucky enough to own both the atom and the preamp I can say this was by far the best show, I ´ ve seen on this channel. It was entertaining, it sounded awesome and I learned a hell lot about midi. And besides that, Dan, this was the best advertisement for your phenomenal product. I already love it, still discovering though... keep it up, you guys are my evening illumination. Ask my wife 😂😂😂
Hopefully this inspires more people to use MIDI, people assume that it's complicated when it's really not. I encouraged everyone to at least try it, it's your greatest arsenal waiting to be discovered Happy new year TPS Community.
Hopefully, this does not fool those of you with mental disability into wasting time and money on a product that ultimately will not work for you. If DOS 6.2 Manuals are chronically soporific, it could be a symptom of underlying physical issues, which may preclude adequacy in certain, seemingly mundane skills. YMMV, I recently lernt why I have trouble with some strangely disparate things, and right at the area that the neurological testing indicated, the MRI showed the white matter deficit thing. Since I didn't get this testing done in the Sixties, they are now putting me through additional senility testing crap, but if I am declining from age that is just a bonus. Any way give it a try if you do the pedal board thing. I don't do any switching whatever, but then I hardly do "music" either.
For those afraid of MIDI, the Morningstar products (MC6, MC8, etc.) are eye opening. Their editor makes it so ridiculously easy to program that anybody can do it.
I love Dan's opening reaction to Mick's playing. It's like watching an S&M show... Mick: Take that!!! And THAT!!! Dan: I deserve this. Thank you sir, may I have another?! 😂😂😂
Wishing everyone who follows TPS, and D&M and team, a safe and peaceful 2021. Thank you for your wonderful content, always. Timing also perfect: I’ll be having a crack at a first little MIDI board in the coming days. If it works then an Atom might be on the cards. PS: three new tees arrived yesterday morning. Always good to receive a parcel from TPS HQ.
Thank you for buying stuff! It keeps the lights on here at TPS Towers. :0) And good luck with the board. Dan still has mine so I’ve had no chance to go further.... but I will!
My First thought after the starting this Video: This reminds me of my dad working on his toy train for hours. He even had the same glasses swag as Mick.
Gots me a tomato tone just before Christmas and I so relate to you blokes getting lost in how good it sounds. Fidelity, open, dynamic etc. etc. my wife and kids didn’t care the first time I told them. They still don’t care now but every time I play I’ve got this urge to tell someone how good the thing sounds!
The 2 real questions are : Do you enjoy yourself more when you grab your guitar? Does it give you the will to play more? Forget the idea to share with your wife and childrens. And don't be upset mine don't care neither :)
@@alannedelec2714 Definitely makes me enjoy playing even more. Has been a little bit of a distraction vs. targeted practice as I’ll “find” a tone that is reminiscent of a particular song then get lost for an hour trying to play it... but that’s good time lost I think!
@@dhod900 Sure. Having different sounds leads you to play things that are different from your usual stuff, and eventually improve yourself has a musician.
@@MorleyRobertson1975 Also very good point. Reminds me of when they plugged in dumble style pedals into the Two Rock and the Matchless. "Sounds really good" yeah I hope it does!
You can literally hear the quality in those pedals. Nice fat overdriven tones and GLORIOUS reverbs and delays. I bet it feels great under the fingers too. There is no harshness or hardness to the sound. Very nice! and a great show, guys.
I bought a Tomatotone thinking I could sell all my other overdrives to pay for it. Yeah, right. It’s just a chance for TPS-inspired “better questions.” Like: what would KOT>TTone in KOT mode>Klon sound like? Now I have a Gladio on order. Damn you TPS for opening the rabbit hole. I’ve never had so much gearhead fun.
This video confirmed what i have long known. That is, i have more chance of becoming Pope than even thinking about midi. Still a good watch though guys. Educational as always.
Oh dear. I have avoided midi for years but have a number of pedals that are midi compliant. I’ve also been reasonably sure I was desirous of a more sophisticated loop switcher than say the excellent Quartermaster family. Now I know that I need a G3 and to invest the time in learning how to make a G3 when I get one control my pedals. First day of 2021 and my bank account is weeping. Happy New Year my friends. Thanks for a very educational episode.
I found you guys a week ago and thank you for filling a void I did not know existed in my life. Great content!! EDIT- it was Christmas Day I found you and it was the best gift other than my Buttercream Strat I received.
Thanks for reminding me that I have to go through the TPS archives and look for certain gear and re-watch the episodes. Pretty easy stuff to watch, when one has the time. 😸
Mrs Brooks has come into the room. I keep trying to get her to see the automatons sliders moving. She said ‘yes darling.’ Gotta love her. She is awesome, just not fussed about guitars and pedals. Although she loves it when I play ambient stuff though.
I love how Dan is just cheesing his pants when the fuzz and good tone kicks in😂 You’re a legend Dan. Great video lads. Never thought Mick would actually sit down and use midi! But hey, we did survive 2020....or did we...? Duh duh duh
Watching Dan's obvious exercise in patience while remaining kind and friendly is one of the reasons I love TPS so much. I work in tech, and I know how exhausting it can be to try and convey an overly technical message to someone less familiar, no matter how smart they are. Also, good show Mick on being open to finally getting onboard the MIDI train.
Oh, my goodness! The TONE from this rig is stunning! Kudos, Mick, for stepping out of your comfort zone to embrace the utility of MIDI (which I have yet to do)! Kudos, Dan, for the real world explanations! Good on you both, sons!
As usual Gents, wonderful & fundamentally useful show! I have owned a G2 for 6mos now & can say honestly it has changed my sonic approach to playing after 30 years just from how clear & concise everything is. The ease of use & overall functionality is so important for this brain to wrap around. Dan you are a mad Genius & Mick well I also am going to take my midi journey after this episode. Wish me luck! 🤞🏼
Good luck Ross! Mick here. It’s a revelation when you hear it for the first time. I don’t think I can explain and/or people believe it until they hear it. Good luck with Em-one Dee-one. :0)
I’m hearing Stereo Mesa50:50, 2290, expensive pedals that you don’t want beer spilled on, new G3 that does remote well... I’m hearing... THAT RACK SHOW!
It better not go down again like it did in the 90s... into Refrigerator Cold Racks. Tone is first and the vital energy we all crave. Tone that inspires to play away into bliss.
@@ralvknights in all seriousness, 19u rack is just a housing, tone comes from the things you put inside it. A lot of the issues from the rack era are being revisited now with everyone’s massive pedalboards and wanting Wet/Dry, Wet/Dry/Wet, MIDI, etc. Dan has addressed some of the issues with his Humdinger, Wetter Box, G2/G3... IMO, digital preamps (especially from the early 90’s) will never hold up. A lot of those multi effect boxes had to shuffle processor power and had subpar A/D and D/A converters. However the Mesa rack power amps are high headroom amps with huge dynamics. The 2290 is a classic tone that has more analog componentry than digital. I’m curious to see where Mick goes with it, I imagine he’ll have a stereo reverb as well and maybe a big wet/dry/wet sound? Also, I love the idea of racking pedals away from the front of the stage, if I was a touring musician I’d do that. Since I play at home a few pedals on the floor is good for me. :)
@@PFDarkside Thank u for sharing. I keep learning from musicians that share ideas, just like you did. Our brains have to dwell with lots of learning steep hills sometimes. I have acquire a taste for pedal searching, testing, still it has serve me well. The practicality issue of playing live and even recording with comfort is an important part of the equation of playing to our full potential. I love digital delays and have learn not to build stereotypes regarding gear. I was merely pointing at the sounds that i heard in the 90s.. i am enjoying the new technologies in sound.. pedals have dynamics in many types of fxs. My ears are happpier than during my early playing years.
Happy New Year chaps, Andy here. I went through the MIDI learning stage recently - I made it my Covid goal to rebuild my pedal board, using a MIDI loop switcher. I play in a theatre-level Floyd tribute, so you can imagine the range of pedals involved. All works like a dream - including two MIDI equipped multi effects, and a bunch of gain pedals - with the whole show mapped out on consecutive patches on the loop switcher. Game changer 😁
A classic example of a show I would probably never have even thought to ask for, but incredibly happy to have the opportunity to watch now you've made it. And a very good job I think you did do. I also had the "Mick realisation" about halfway through that hey wait a minute, how much can these three pedals do? Everything? Hmm maybe this DIMI stuff is worth it after all. What a good job Big Tomato as done with those automatic pedals, starting with the two effects almost everyone uses and is also the most picky about the most of the time. Really good use case for all those features. When I first saw them I thought "yeah they do cool stuff but it comes with so much other stuff I don't need" but honestly looking at them, I think every bit I thought was flashy gubbins is actually more like yeah well if you want to be able to do this well then it's actually mostly necessary, and then they just went the extra part of well since it has to be there, might as well make it as good as possible to. Respect from me.
I know that this is not the purpose of these videos but I have to say this has completely sold the G3 Atom to me. The User Interface and capabilities seem to be superbly worked out and understandable (I currently use a Boss MS-3 which I can use but this is another level). Thank you. Now I have to work out how to afford it!
Back in the day I was so proud to sync my JMP1 to the Quadraverb... Then I sold everything as I literally used only four different sounds... Thanks to you guys I bought a 5 channel switcher two years ago. Now I am using it with 8 pedals and a two channel amp. A complete game changer... In order not to get lost, I programmed the switcher songwise. One bank is one song. The different sounds in a song follow the order of the switches... No more thinking and I really use my rig to its full extend. Like mostly everything in life it is a compromise but an active choice...;-) Thank you guys, I owe you a couple of songs! Love. Klod
First off, can we acknowledge how ridiculously unreal these sounds are? Second, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! If this is any indication of what’s ahead this year, at least I know the next twelve months will sound epic. All my love.
So, I was watching this weeks live show. I saw most of it live and was finishing off. It rolled to this video and Mick's opening just slew me. You are a beautiful and very expressive human. We all spend so much time thinking about scales, licks and stunts, but the beauty is the the chords, the harmony and the ability to allow beauty to emerge. You are vvery special at that. I don't know where I'd be w/o you too. It'd be good, I guess, but not as good as it is with you these years of TPS. Life changing.
I hope the response to this is overwhelmingly positive because apparently I can watch Dan mess around with little LCD menus and be completely glued to my screen. This was super informative for me and I'm really glad you guys did it!
Bought me G2 back at the start of lockdown for something to keep me sane. Such a fun tone trip it's been. I love my GigRig. Thanks Gents & Gal and here's to a better year!
YES!!! You did it! The loop switcher (and MIDI) show that I asked for a bit ago! I definitely understood why it would be a difficult show to do, not for the content (obviously) but because they didn't want it to come off like an advertisement - well BRAVO! it's great, and is another in a long line of excellent educational dives into specific gear, to gain deeper understanding of the functions and potential applications. This also serves as a touchstone to share with people, especially if they have questions, or are misinformed about switchers and MIDI, to help nicely expand their gear arsenal. You knocked this out of the park, too - condensed with some great info, especially for those just diving in. I have had a G2 for a while now, and while it has been a path of discovery, I knew any serious questions, confusion, or conundrums I encountered, would be answered by GigRig's excellent support - but that said, there are things explained in this video, that could a bit more rapidly advance someone's understanding which is great. I know many TPS regulars have been hoping for this show. Great Job, guys!
So perfectly timed to what I've been researching as the next evolution in my own pedalboard! Always informative, always humorous, and always loved is TPS. Happy New Year, guys!
Oh, when Dan tells Mick there is a new MIDI standard on its way....😁epic! Thanks guys again for a great show! Happy New Gear, best wishes for the year to come!
Great show guys. “You put a plectrum in like this” I love it. Mick I encourage you to take on MIDI. The learning curve can be somewhat steep at first but once you understand the basic concepts it gets easier. It is incredibly useful in many live and studio applications. Being able to tap one switch on your G3 and have it switch your automatone preamp and delay simultaneously to the presets you want and turn on their loops then with another back to your clean tone is a huge benefit at a gig. If you ever venture into synths or even loopers and drum sequencers, MIDI can control them and sync them to a clock. The list goes on. All very useful. Hope you guys had a nice, restful break. Cheers and Happy New Year.
54:44 “And there was my fuzz.” Reminds me so much of the Welshism: “I opened the door and there was my bike; gone!” Happy New Year everyone. This was a wonderful vid and really makes me lust over tomatoes and atoms, which incidentally should definitely be your prog rock album title.
Thank you Mick and Dan for taking the time to put out this video. Very timely for me, I just sold my Fractal FX8 and am rebuilding my pedalboard and want to use midi controlled presets on a couple of Strymon, Eventide, and Source Audio pedals. I will be using a recently acquired G2 to control my pedals and although the G2 will be different than the G3 my guess is that it will be similar. Cheers to you both and a great 2021! Jim
I really enjoyed this video. It was really good watching Dan teach Mick the way the G3 works for the benefits of us at home. So many of your videos make so much more sense to me now. Also, the sounds you both get from those pedals is amazing! Keep up the good work guys!
Thank you, thank you, thank you. That was exactly the right level of information I could absorb about the functionality of the switcher and the MIDI capabilities. Brilliantly paced guys, well done!
I agree with Mick almost completely. I have a few pedals that can take midi, but I love to dial in the sounds and see what I am actually playing. I am about to venture into midi because I recently purchased a Bliss Factory and want to use more presets and sync it with my DD-500 for a few songs. like Mick suggested, it would be great if either of these pedals knobs or switches actually moved with the midi switching. The automatone CBA pedals open up the world of presets and tweekability to recreate studio performances for any live venue and make on the spot adjustments. Happy New Year to all!
Oh yes! I’m still alive (thanks to the wonderful people of the NHS) and I’m home with the 65”Oled. Booked the lounge on the family WhatsApp. Let’s go my boyoze.
Great show! I'm patiently awaiting the artival of my G3, it shipped Dec.10 and is hung-up in a very congested and Covid affected US Postal System. This show provided lots of food for thought as I continue to plan the new board build. Great tone and playing guys. Cheers and Happy New Year!
Massively helpful video, I’m definitely in the Mick camp when it comes to menu diving, so MIDI has always baffled me. But it genuinely looks like one can dip a toe into the MIDI water, just to recall some pedal presets, without too much hassle. Excellent. Also, when Mick was playing with the simple combo of a couple of drives in a preset and kicked on the reverb as stomp, then changed preset and the reverb went off I had a facepalm moment. Of course it goes off, you’ve kicked on another preset, so I started considering how presets might need versions with/without certain pedals... then Dan introduced sticky stomp, OH YES!!! I’m definitely in the market for a switcher at some point and aside from the many things a G3 can do, that is a beauty of a feature! Great video guys. Happy New Year :-)
Hi guys. I just wanted to congratulate you on presenting a subject,which for many guitarists is completely alien, in a way that may have produced a few light bulb moments for those people. I loved it because it showed the capabilities of G3 in context too.
Great episode as always chaps! I got the sense that you were both a little lower energy than normal, perhaps even melancholic at points - particularly Dan. I hope you’re both well. Take heart, we’ve made it to 2021!
What a way to start the new year, done well guys! I also love how Dan all the way through is doing his paitent Yoda thing while Mick just gets lost in sounds ^_^
You lost me after 10 minutes in 😂😂 But that's alright, I don't need to understand it all. I'm happy doing a little tap dancing at home to keep me fit. No gigging any time soon anyways...
I stayed away from midi pedals for the same reasons, too many menus and too much tweaking involved. But then I purchased a Source Audio Collider, a Strymon Möbius, and a GigRig G2... Amazing!!! I eliminated 7 pedals on my board and replaced them with 2. (Plus my 6 other non-midi drive pedals, comp, pog, wah....) I have pre-set for every song in every set. It's a game changer. My tone has never been better plus no more tap dancing. The Möbius took a few minutes to learn. The Collider is so easy to use and program. I had some issues with the midi programming in relation to communicating with the G2, but the support team at GigRig was amazing, they set up a FaceTime chat and spent 90 minutes with me tweaking and figuring out the issues I was having. I'm glad I took a leap of faith, I would never go back from having some midi pedals on my board. Cheers : )
Digital control of pure analog sound tools is actually quite exciting, from the Chase Bliss pedals to Hook amps and beyond. What times we live in. Also a very educational vid as I am a new G3 Atom owner. I am still pondering how to make an expression pedal work as a non-tone sucking volume pedal in a generic way though. Back to the manual :).
I haven’t been afraid of midi or switchers, but I hadn’t seen the total benefit for myself until this run through. Sticky stomp box mode sounds perfect for me!! Thanks for all the hard work :)
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