Can The Most POWERFUL Racing Car Beat An 80s GROUP C?

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962 vs 917/30 at Le Mans without chicanes!
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@THEWINDTUNNEL 12 дней назад

Group C or 70s Can-Am? Which era do you prefer?

@tijmendr9006 12 дней назад

I love group c but driving that 917/30 in asetto corsa has made it one of my favorite race cars

@AndyFromBeaverton 11 дней назад

Can-Am 7 days a week.

@Dahik2013 11 дней назад

Can am

@marks7197 11 дней назад

Can-am cars are a great spectacle in person but the series tended to be dominated by certain cars so Group C for me, mainly because of the level of competition.

@xXxDeamonlordxXx 11 дней назад

They both have their plus and downsides. The 917 is just brute force, while the 962 is a refined racing machine. 0,76 seconds off while having literally half of the power? Count me in. But the 917 is the ultimate challenge on a twisty track like virginia...

@Michael_Michaels 12 дней назад

The 917 could reach 400 Km/h. The 962 could reach 386 km/h, but both were gearbox limited.

@michajanicki6860 11 дней назад

sure kid, sure

@aguiii_films 11 дней назад

Source: Trust me... The 917 could certainly NOT pass 400kph. Peugeot did it in the 80s when aero was far more advanced and still struggled. The true top speed according to google is 239mph or 385KPH which sounds far more biblically accurate

@Michael_Michaels 11 дней назад

@@michajanicki6860 thanks for the support!! Very helpful!...

@TU_Gaming 11 дней назад

@@aguiii_filmsI think the 400kph is the 917/30 as that has over double the hp than the 917k or 917LH

@aguiii_films 11 дней назад

@@TU_Gaming Yeah I was talking specifically about the 917/30... There's simply no way its reaching 400kph with that aero

@johnjones928 10 дней назад

If you look at the lap times from Road America, possibly the only track left unchanged for the years they competed the Porsche was actually slower than the ground effects Can Am cars of the early 80's even though they had half the HP, even the WSC cars were faster. As powerful as the 917-30 was is was limited to a 4 speed gear box, primitive aero, brakes, tires, suspension and chassis.

@racingndriver7113 11 дней назад

The 917/30 is definitely MUCH slower than the real one

@Jamieboi1989 12 дней назад

love the spyder! an engineering marvel in the early 70s I have to say. to achieve that much power in a car back then is truly incredible! had a feeling it would take the line with all that power to accelerate with. awesome vid!

@Formulaaaaaaaa5 12 дней назад

Closer than i though

@ombudsman3000 12 дней назад

hard to say, but I'll take group C

@darekponorad6280 12 дней назад

can-am doesnt look like 1600hp at all, group C with half the power and more downforce isnt that much slower on the straitghs. What may cause this?

@oddforoddssake3751 12 дней назад

18 or so years of effective automotive development, in short Better tyres, better aero, better construction materials, more efficient power delivery, the list goes on. Though given the close results at the end, it's amazing seeing the Turbopanzer win despite the relative age!

@Jamieboi1989 12 дней назад

aerodynamic quality id say. more streamlined shape = more top speed. isnt there like a 14-15 year gap between the two models? spyder is ancient now lol.

@311superfly 12 дней назад

Only 1000 or so ponies in race trim plus drag.

@fossilfueled27 11 дней назад

All the above, plus can you imagine how much turbo lag there is pushing that kind of power in 1970?

@f1jones544 10 дней назад

956 had ground effects so way faster in corners and could use much more of its power. 917/30 had no ground effects, just a big, draggy wing and open cockpit, so not nearly as aero efficient or able to use all of the power it had. There was plenty to beat the big block Chevys it completed against in Can Am. Only ten years separated the two cars, 1973 and 1983.

@HTES962 11 дней назад

12 years of engineering in such an early era of motorsport showing how peak power isn't all your power and not to be threatened by 1600hp.

@CX0909 4 дня назад

I will not ever understand why racing sims cannot get the trackside/third person engine notes correct. For the last quarter century the cars sound like they were designed and played on an old Casio keyboard. Why... SERIOUSLY WHY... can they NOT get this right to this day???

@THEWINDTUNNEL 3 дня назад

The outside sounds are way harder to get, it depends a lot of where the car is. (A car in the middle of the desert sounds completely different to that same car inside a tunnel) Some developers put mics on the exhaust, some put them outside...

@CX0909 3 дня назад

@@THEWINDTUNNEL ok but decades of work have gone into the physics of racing sims yet the cars still sound modulated and, well, goofy. Some of us have been to an actual race but we've all watched it on tv. Sim cars don't sound like real cars on tv or at the track. Thanks for the reply man 👍🏻

@Satori-Automotive 12 дней назад

Are u really driving in 1600hp trim?

@racingndriver7113 11 дней назад

Probably not, the qualifying trim can get like 257 MPH/415 KMH and 0-60 in 1.9s, the 917/30 would have dominated the whole lap

@keithchung2501 12 дней назад

It depends on what the end goal is. It's like comparing an apple to an orange. Porsche 917/30 campaigned by Penske Organization was designed for Can Am racing whereas Porsche 962 was conceived to compete in endurance racing. This one lap of computer simulation overlay shown with the backdrop of Le Mans doesn't really tell the whole story in my opinion. It all comes down to reliability, durability, and robustness of the engines in each car. Remember, the twin-turbocharged air-cooled Flat-12 wasn't built to last 24 hrs. of racing environment. I would guess that, at the end of the day, Porsche 962 would edge out Porsche 917/30 by default. Just my two cents.

@camerongreenwoodcrampakacgc. 10 дней назад

Masterpiece.

@DJDouglasWarden 11 дней назад

Badass!

@Pewnhound112 7 дней назад

Give us late 90s Indy car vs late 90s F1 car please!

@matthackathorn1099 9 дней назад

You should do the Prototype kings of the early 90s. The Peugot 905 and the Gurney Eagle MK3

@lordracer7743 11 дней назад

that canam turbo man.

@WorldEngine64 8 дней назад

Man What a beast of a Porsche can am car

@guillermogarcia7521 9 дней назад

What simulator are you using? Amazing comparison btw❤

@THEWINDTUNNEL 9 дней назад

Assetto Corsa

@guillermogarcia7521 9 дней назад

@@THEWINDTUNNEL Thanks for your answer! 😊 and you drive for the video with some mate or both cars are controlled by IA ?

@sevegarza 11 дней назад

Hell ya!

@CJr_M 12 дней назад

So I'm not the only one with that weird screen-warping on the bottom line of the screen? 0:10 It only happens when looking back

@nar8077 11 дней назад

Yeah me too it's because of pure

@Julianthebagel 10 дней назад

I think the porche will win

@jerryalhafizh2341 9 дней назад

Day 2 of asking lmh vs gt500 at lemans

@sirafoxtron1701 11 дней назад

Away we go and the 962 got ahead! But 917 Catch up! Well not really with the first 2 corners 1:00 The straight is here can the 917 catch the 962 yes he can! 2:06 Can the 962 take it back? 2:44 917 is running away from 962 3:33 A final few chicane and 917 takes the flag!

@AndyFromBeaverton 11 дней назад

The 962 most likely has superior brakes.

@toivonen1310 9 дней назад

Don't think this comparison portraits the real scenario...it's fun to watch, but has many things i find almost unreal...in the more slower parts, the 956/962 gains to little advantage to what it would in real life, and that would make all the diference in the end. The Group C would win in almost all the conditions, that would be the REAL truth! But i understand the purpose of the video, and i like to watch them in your channel. Thanks

@dgcYtube 10 дней назад

The power of Sunoco Porsche Audi 917/30

@311superfly 12 дней назад

Open car sooo much drag!

@311superfly 11 дней назад

Yet BMW and AUDI won with them. Driver change much easier.

@311superfly 11 дней назад

And Porsche too

@845_Mk6 10 дней назад

The braking in the group c made up for the power gap

@drsolar 11 дней назад

Turbo lag. How did you factor that?

@THEWINDTUNNEL 10 дней назад

Just look at the start, the 917 isn't going the first 2 secs, other than that it's pretty manageable

@shirakotakamoto.4178 10 дней назад

Could the Mercedes 2020 F1 beat a top Fuel dragster at Le Mans without chicanes?

@McLarenMercedes 6 дней назад

On the Mulsanne straight alone, no. Around the entire track, easily. Fact is I'm not eve sure the dragster would last a full lap. They just are designed to run at full power for a few seconds and slow down. Since they don't even use radiators they WILL overheat in longer runs. And then I haven't even mentioned how useless they would be in ANY corner. In fact I do not think they even can turn their front wheels enough. Bizarre comparison.

@catjudo1 11 дней назад

I would end up killing myself driving the dream (a 917K, actually), but until the last few seconds I would be in race car heaven. Then I would go to hell for destroying a classic. 😹

@marvel9r421 11 дней назад

Take out that long ass back stretch, and we'll have a total different story.

@Pewnhound112 7 дней назад

Yeah but that’s literally the track my guy.

@pigeonpoo1823 12 дней назад

Look, we all know the bestest 80s le mans car was the jaguar xjr9..... which i owned in scalextric form. Great figure of 8 track!

@Inazuma68 11 дней назад

Nah… I bet the 917 would be much slower in corners, it was not a ground effect car. Also the breaks are way weaker

@cardinalRG 6 дней назад

The Porsche 917/30 was not "the most powerful racing car ever made". Dragsters are racing cars too.

@scott_liu0219tw 7 дней назад

917/30 is flat 12 cylinder right? 962C is flat 6 cylinder 🤔

@McLarenMercedes 6 дней назад

Both use turbos. Anyways the Group C car has ground effect (meaning it's faster in any corner) superior tires, suspension and is a monocoque chassis. From a technical point of view it's like the era of the last piston engined propeller planes vs early jets. Who counts cylinders btw? Only kids. A more telling factor is *displacement* .

@SidusBrist 12 дней назад

A Toyota TS050 with the engine of a 917 would be a machine of death, faster than a F1... (Even if the engine wouldn't fit probably) Technological advancement made the 962 almost as fast as the 917 with half of its power!