I can't believe i didn't know this, but in Koga's gym, unlike in Red/Blue/Yellow, there is a second path that cuts out a Juggler. The one doesn't change too much, but the final count should be 68.
Colosseum minimum battles actually sounds pretty interesting because its not only harder than most mainline games but quite a few pokemon are locked behind optional trainers, the variation between a normal and minimum run will be significantly smaller indeed though
Not to mention any repeats, as this would force you to prepare with items or be extra careful as if you leave certain areas to heal, you'll have to re-battle some trainers.
@@mayborneflower Not just the last two fights, pretty much every major battle has absurd level spikes. For exmple after beating Miror B. who has pokemon in the early 30s, the next required fight has pokemon in the mid 30s with only 3 trainers in between, and the next boss right after only has 9 trainers to fight and expects you to jump another 10 levels.
I hate to be that guy, but I believe there are only 68 battles needed for FR/LG. I’ll go double check, but I did this run myself twice a few years ago after being inspired by your R/B/Y min battles run, and I got 68 battles both times. You mentioned two trainers in the Fuchsia gym, but there is only one required trainer in the gym before Koga. You edited out the route you took, but I’m going to assume you don’t know about the hidden path at the top right of the gym after the spinner Bird catcher. Taking this path only makes one juggler mandatory. Still love the vid and all your content! Thanks so much for all the time together spent entertaining us with these super inventive and creative challenges, minimum battles is my favorite! Here’s to many more!
Leftovers aren't the only hidden items you need the Itemfinder for, there's a Soothe Bell in Pokémon Tower, Macho Brace in Viridian Gym and Sacred Ash on Navel Rock. My guess is that it's because all of them can be found on a tile that was previously occupied by a NPC and the game can't handle two different "press A to interact with" on the same tile. There's also a PP Max in Cape Brink that requires the Itemfinder, but that's because it's a single piece of land and you can't interact with land tiles when surfing.
As someone who has tried rom hacking I can say that you're hypothesis is incorrect, it's really easy to code something like that *Some technical stuff so you might not understand* First you need to know the meaning of the term 'flag' *Definition of flag* It is a marker of sorts that you set when a certain event is done to let the game know that it's already happened (if you don't set it the same sequence of events will happen each time you trigger it) *Steps on how you set something like that up* • first You set up the battle • Make it so that when the battle is won it sets a flag and make the NPC sprite disappear • set it up so that interacting with it (after the flag has been set) gives you the items • Now in the game when the battle is won and you interact with that tile again the game will check for that flag • And when it realises that you have already won that battle • and then It will give you the items I know this sounds complicated but is quite easy to do
@@Kambyday It'd sound a lot less complicated if you used punctuation. Run-on sentences are hard to follow in general, no matter how complex the subject matter.
@@Kambyday I've never seen someone opt to use line breaks as their only method of punctuation before, but sure. It's a lot more readable than before. Your explanation still has a lot of redundancy, but I can follow it.
It was almost FOUR years ago (end of 2019, I believe) you did Red and Blue, which is just wild to me that I've been watching for SO long, man! Keep up the amazing work! I look forward to watching this video right now, while at work!
Seeing your comment made me look to see how long I've been watching. The first video I saw was his majikarp video 5 years ago. Hard to believe I've been watching him this long
I know it's not much, but I just wanted to give you something ahead of the holidays to say thanks for the videos! You got me back into Pokémon massively, playing all my old games and whatnot. So big thanks and look forward to all future vids!
Amazing man! I’m thinking if I have anything left in my giving fund I’d give it to him as well! If all of us did he’d be able to not worry about finances and just focus on his health and videos ♥️
I’m not sure who’s been doing the thumbnails, if it’s you, AJ or someone else, but the artwork for these niche challenges like L100 and pacifist is amazing and they deserve all the props! Diamond/Pearl would be utterly brutal since you’d only get your starter and a fossil, but Platinum could be an interesting game to try this on. Free Eeveelution for HMs, free Togepi, free Porygon, and a fossil (probably require species clause to not get unlimited), balanced with Cynthia being one of the hardest final bosses in the series. Further games also either make it so running from the box legendary doesn’t progress the story or force you to catch it, so you’d have Dialga, Palkia or Giratina unless outright banned.
I'm not sure how it works in base DP, but in Platinum you actually can progress the story if you run away from Giratina to avoid battling it, which is another point in Platinum's favor for this type of run.
Have been doing some “super minimum” battles on fire red and leaf green, With Pokémon like Mewtwo, most legendaries and psychic types etc The total number of battles needed is 38. If you’re unsure on super minimum battles- it’s basically starting with the Tea and A pokemon that knows cut So once you beat Misty you cut out all the trainers up to bills house as well as all the rock tunnel ones etc
23:12: You also need the Itemfinder to get the Soothe Bell where Mr. Fuji was at Pokémon Tower, and also need it to find the Macho Brace at the same spot Giovanni was at his gym after he disappears forever from the game
I remember watching your videos at the end of 2019 through 2020 when the lockdowns started, and it really helped get me through that part of my life. Watched every video since and haven't regretted a minute! One of the best in the business.
I love seeing FR mr mime getting some love, this little guy is an absolute monster with the boosted XP + moves it can learn naturally from level up, I rarely choose another psychic type when I start a new playthrough now
Been watching this channel regularly since this series started. (And had seen a few videos here and there before that like the magikarp video) and I just want to say thank you for such entertaining videos. They never fail to make me smile even when I am going through a hard time.
YO! I actually followed your video for red/blue to do this exact same run. You're an inspiration, and these challenges have revitalized an old favorite for me! Thanks so much!
I have loved the new art direction on the thumbnails of your latest videos but today's art is so fantastic I had to tell you. The player hiding behind a bug catcher is the most hilarious encapsulation of the min battles experience and I love it very much.
Great video as usual JRoss11!! I like the Toxic strategy against Sabrina!! I usually go with the Shadow Ball TM you can get from the Celadon Game Corner👍💪
I can't wait for DPP and HGSS, I got inspired by your first minimum battles video and I've tried them both for myself. I did beat Platinum but it was with some slightly different rules and I allowed healing items, so it was on easy mode. I tried HG following your rules strictly and I got stomped, I failed with 3 different mons.
In generation 3 trainers are incredibly likely to go for speed-lowering moves if you outspeed them. So on lance after you got the rare candies you could just go for substitute against aerodactyl and set up calm mind while it spams scary face, which would make for a consistent battle. Dodging hyper beam twice also works though
Great video as always, some might say the ending was very nice ;) Just a small tip for anyone doing this themselves: Eevee always has Run Away in Gen 3, so you can use that to escape from wild Diglett on your way to get Mimien from the trade. That is, if you don't want to use Repels or risk a wild Dugtrio.
Are there any spinners in Rock Tunnel? Would be an absolute pain trying to monitor them with such a limited field of vision. Great video, really looking forward to the hellscape that will be Diamond and Pearl. From watching the failed streams on Twitch I know it's gonna get real complicated
so a fun thing about spinners (at least for gen 3, unsure if it works for later games) is you can pause, and then open the bag, and then close the menu either using start or manually going down to 'exit' (basically just dont use B since youll likely start running and it makes them face you and you get caught) and it locks them in place for a short amount of time, enough to casually walk past them
Their isn't a single other person on RU-vid I can say thay my average completion rate of their video is %100. New or old, I love your content!!! You do everything I could ever want to grind 40 hours on and complete it into a solid 45 minutes to an hour of fun. Keep on keepin on and have a Bloody Good Day!!!
I did Diamond earlier this year and it was very interesting with probably many different ways to tackle it. Platinum will undoubtedly be a lot harder though
@@justinmedeiros7600 my final count was 89, but honestly I might have miscounted once or twice haha. I thought it was decently easy with the exception of a couple of major battles. I will talk about it in greater detail further down in this comment so read on if you like Spoilers Technically you can choose any starter since you will need to catch something for waterfall if you choose chimchar/turtwig and you will need to catch something for rock smash if you choose piplup, but I think the only feasible way to beat Mars early on is to choose piplup and catch a lvl 9 onix (or potentially geodude) for rock smash and use them to weaken purlugly for piplup to defeat. On route 207, there is a double battle before mt. Coronet that you can skip by dropping down a ledge that bypasses them. This is VERY IMPORTANT because you have to go back that way to eventually get to Bryon, which means you can either fight the double battle or catch a Pokémon with fly to fly back to Jubilife. This means you can catch a level 40 pelipper on route 213 (made easier with repel strategies). This makes HM management SO much easier as well as having access to a level 40 Pokémon. If any Pokémon could learn waterfall, fly, and surf, then that would mean that we can’t pick peplum as our starter, but luckily pelipper can’t learn waterfall. My final team was empoleon, happiny, onix, cranidos, and pelipper. Some hard battles for me was: First battle against mars, which again was trivialized by having piplup as my starter and catching onix. Likely means you can’t use chimchar or turtwig as the starter unless you catch a buizel early on and somehow cheese mars idk Crasher wake, but only because I was hesitant to teach prinplup grass knot, but I didn’t even use it for the rest of the playthrough Volkner, which probably requires you to have a cheri berry to avoid paralysis from the lead Raichu. I actually made sure to have a female piplup so that rivalry from Luxray doesn’t have an attack boost, but it might not matter because Volkner’s AI is seemingly random, so winning kinda requires his luxray to use crunch a couple of times Funny enough, the hardest battle was actually against Lucian, who has a large amount of team diversity and coverage moves, including focus blast and close combat. I had to use all of my rare candies for this fight and even then only barely won. I just barely won on my first try against Cynthia after using rare candies. Let me know if you have any other questions!
Another great video :) Btw, there's an easy way to pass spinners. Stand right next and open a submenu (like Pokemon or Bag) and close the menu with Start already holding the direction. The spinner won't turn for a short time after closing the menu. This trick is used in all the speedruns (except if you count it as a glitch which it's not really considered as)
I loved this one! I was groaning at my screen at the overly cautious plays with substitute 😂😂 One thing I want to say about the recent string of videos is that I feel like the new thumbnail style is less clickable than the kinds you’ve used in the past. They almost look like alpharad thumbnails, which I suppose may actually be the point/improve general clickability, but for me at least I feel like the reasons I click on his videos for example are different than why I do on yours, so I subconsciously put off watching this challenge until now rather than when it first popped up in my notifications and on my home page. Ofc I don’t expect you to just give up on this new style bc of my comment that would be silly, but I figured I would provide my opinion. If it turns out that in general these new thumbs are generating more clicks and new subscribers etc, ignore my dumbass and keep doing that! Awesome work as always sir, thanks for all your hard work and entertainment :)
With the throwback comparisons to that first R/B minimum battles run, I'm honestly a bit bummed the Count von Count impression didn't make a cameo appearance 😂
Hey Jrose, I just wanted to say that even though I’m not that much into Pokémon anymore, you’re my favorite RU-vidr and whenever I see a new video of yours, I watch it immediately! I love how you’re doing your narration, and there’s just something nice about your voice. Thank you for doing all these challenges and good luck on next ones!
I thought what was funny is when they introduced genders in gen 2. So, with that said, Sabrina has a Mr. Mime. It's female... For some reason, I found that funny as a kid. Great video, as always!
Hey Jrose! Just a heads up that you can find a hidden Leppa Berry in the grass patch west of Lavender Town along with a couple of extra hidden berries! Edit: Yeah, Gen 3 loves status. In that Lance fight in particular if you hid behind a Substitute, Aerodactyl would just keep using Scary Face because it doesn't know how to interact with your mon while it's behind a substitute. Likewise, the Dragonair with Thunder Wave would just keep spamming it even though it's doing nothing. The champion's Pidgeot is hilariously easy to set up on with Substitute too since it knows both Sand-Attack and Feather Dance. Substitute is really strong in Gen 3 due to that fun little quirk :)
Whew, the Colosseum min battles run. I paid out the wazoo for a physical copy and 100%ing it to transfer all Pokemon to Ruby, IDK how you'd fare towards the end of the game. Remember now, their pokemanz gets really high leveled and so suddenly too, so consider that!
A challenge I really want to see one of you guys do "Can you beat all the pokemon generations with the same team traded along?" So you'd get a team from Pokemon red/blue or yellow and once you beat it you trade all those mons into the next game and beat that. Then you repeat until you beat all the games!
This was how I first played the game once upon a time because I thought of my Pokemon as friends and didn't want them getting hurt. And this made me unable to beat the Elite 4 for YEARS before i realized i needed to actually train them.
Hey Jrose, great video as always but wouldn't encore be the best strategy for sabrina? They constsntly spam calm mind and you out speed all of them so you cpuld just encore them, switch to ivysaur and leech seed+toxic, wait for encore to end, let them one shot ivysaur and just kill them with mr mime after the health drops from toxic and leech seed? I feel like it'd be a far more consistent strat
I can't decide whether Colosseum and XD would be very interesting or very bland for minimum battles. You get to catch pokemon because of the snag mechanic, xp splitting in double battles could be interesting to track, but I'm not sure how many battles are skippable.
I totally thought Nintendo forgot about that game until I'm playing PoGo and it's actually integral to the plot, AI battles and important in PVP. Unfortunately never got to beat it 'cause I evolved into a middle schooler in 2001 and playing "baby games" made you 4x weak to bullies on the bus.
Just to let you know, there's actually at least one Leppa Berry on Routes 8 (the Saffron-Lavender route) and 23, outside of Victory Road. The latter wouldn't help much while still going through the Gyms, but the former might have. :P
