Can You Charge A Tesla By Towing It? (With Ford Raptor) 

They've created a Chevy Volt.

@@DS-mz7dy its hilarious to think that a chevy volt is the combination of a ford raptor and a tesla

All Tesla's should have 3.5L engines...maybe put it in the frunk...

No, they created something cool.

Democrats killed America and I stood by & watched would be neat if they had like a 10hp vertical lawnmower engine. Enough power you could leave the gas engine on all night and charge the car.

Throwing shade at the Pipes!

Make this video happen 😂😂😂

Next dream car road trip!

Can we involve AvE to explain it in terms of liquid dinosaurs and pixies? My year would be complete.

But can you recharge while jumping with a Tesla Model 3 attached to a Raptor in the air?

It'd be hella unsafe but it would surprisingly work

Yeah everyone driving 30cm behind a truck would also save tons of gas. Or maybe an extra wide airshield truck. Just way too dangerous. Behind a driving wall, a bicycle can hold over 120kmh.

@@gur262 hyperloop is based on this exact idea of no air resistance, but still with autonomous self driving with teslas connected to each other, teslas driving behind a tesla cybertruck should be able to communicate and in case of emergency brake immediately making it safer than a human driving behind a truck allowing the car to drive closer to the truck

huge tesla trucks with automatic hookup points, with a trailer thing but that whole trailer is a battery and it goes on tracks on the side of the roads

Wirelesscharger in the road would be insane

in a way, yeah. If you buy a generator that runs on gas to charge your tesla, it'll still be way more efficient than just running a raptor.

@@jrfailma you know there safety things that wont allow this

2.2l/100km from tesla is worse fuel economy than Hyundai Ioniq plugin hybrid with 1.1l/100km.. but then again.. Ioniq is WAY less powerful than tesla :) edit: but then again, tesla was driving slowly when the 2.2l was measured...

@@MrApple187 we're talking efficiency, not hardware restrictions. By the way, what is in Tesla's safety things that won't allow you to install an engine driven generator to your house and Tesla battery charger? I'm curious.

@@jukkal4382 true. It's why a hybrid is the next best thing after full EV, minus the range anxiety.

Chris Quick lmao best comment

Power! Lol

@@mlee6050 i think you mean POWERRRR!!! Lol

you mean...POWAAAAA!!!

“I honestly believe that sometimes, my genius... it generates gravity.” JC

Was going to make the comment that it was an easy to miss effect at 4:47

Tru dat

The most awesome hybrid*

It is like the idea of what they call a "through the road hybrid". That is when the gas engine powers the front wheels, and the electric motor powers the rear wheels to make AWD.

Rick LeRoy all inferior to series parallel hybrids, but interesting none the less. Series Parallel hybrid PSD to the front wheels with all electric rear wheels could work fine.

One is for sure, it's not efficient in any way .

This basic principle scaled down to fit into one car is how the Chevy Volt works.

Remember they towed it 2 laps and drove it 1. Yeah you need to be towed more than half way

@@pws3rd170 No it was 1:1. See 2:30 where he States that they only towed one lap.

@@pws3rd170 and at 10:45 he claims you could do 5.6 laps if you drive at a slow pace. Not saying it is true or anything but that is what OP here is basing his comment on. Tow 1/5 of the way and then drive the rest home.

@@AlexTelon If that's the case he should have driven the Tesla around 5.6 laps on the same level of charge (which he did not). I also question where they get the gas mileage of a Tesla to be 108.5 MPG? How do you measure the gas mileage of an automobile when it doesn't use gas? The best mileage hybrid out there is around 50 MPG which you can measure.

@@adamtravismeinhardt I was wondering the same. I hope they didn't convert the chemical energy released by gasoline. Engines aren't 100% efficient. Neither are the electric motors on the tesla. However they are definitely much more efficient.

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Should be

Tesla is horrible at towing.

Perpetual motion

@@yazidgoghrod7434 Definitely not. Tesla's are very inefficient when towing. You lose more than you gain.

You're charging a Tesla with a Tesla, with lots of energy lost due to conversion between energy forms.

Gustav _der_II lol

Back to the Future...use a deLorean.

LOL!!

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I don’t understand why Tesla hasn’t come up with a generator that might be powered from a pto on an axle to recharge the battery. Honestly a self sustaining power source would be the future.

Just got to teleport the raptor where it is needed...

There will be blood!!

Classic

Came here for this comment

This is what i needed. Didn't know it until i read it... bit now that i did, i know it was...

The trip alone would be about 1560L (412 gallons) of fuel.

@Richard Ziminski Conversion between imperial and metric...

Richard Ziminski 10:54

And that is what I call the Future :D :D :D

while a nice thought, parasitic losses and they way increased power consumption of having to tow another car while its in regen mode would be terrible.

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Nah. Only in dreams mate. Nice sarcasm though

Under ideal conditions like a straight road and no traffic I wonder how far you could get doing this driving at say 30mph. #1: Have one start at 100% and start the second at zero (1% so it would be running) and switch once its at 100%(or until the first car gets to zero) and repeat. #2: start the second off at say 80% and switch when full (or the first hits zero) The idea being that perhaps the battery performs best at a higher charge so there may be some benefit to starting the second car closer to full in order to do more towing while at a higher charge although if such a difference exists it may be so negligible as to be negated just by the extra energy needed to accelerate the car back up to speed each time you switch. Also I’m not sure if the math works out with that idea anyway perhaps it makes no difference whether you do it this way or the first way even if the whole “performance being better at higher charge levels” is actually a thing. #3: regardless of what the second car starts at switch when it reaches say 90% The idea of this being that you wouldn’t want to charge it up to 100% because A: it might not be healthy to keep up that charge rate all the way to 100% B: not sure if the ratio between the rate of discharge from the towing vehicle to the rate of charge in the towed vehicle would become less favorable as you approach 100% C: The car may automatically change the regen. to less aggressive levels as it approaches 100% Anyway determine if any of that stuff (or something else) makes a significant difference and if not just go with scenario #1 ................................................... Another thing I would be curious to know is just how much extra force is needed to tow the Tesla when in max regen. VS just rolling in neutral and then equate the amount of force needed to tow it in max regen. to how many lbs extra the car would have to weigh to get an equivalent effect while in neutral. It must be pretty strong as I recall tfl truck taking the model x on the ike gauntlet towing a trailer at max capacity and on the downhill part of the test they actually had to give it gas to keep up their speed despite being on such a steep grade and having all that weight. (Normally the test is to see how many times they need to apply the brakes to keep it under the speed limit) **there are a ton of caveats and alternatives and possible reasons for and against all of the stuff I said floating around in my head but there isn’t enough room for all of my overthinking in this comment and I’m too lazy to do the research to get a sufficient level of certainty as to what is and is not correct so hopefully someone else already knows lol.

true story, get a power strip and save two slots one for the cord its self and one with a battery hooked up to it. the battery will initiate a current loop and power all devices.

and maybe call it camel tow?

Call it leech co.

It would be cheaper overall to offera mobile charging service with a major battery system and L3 charger in board.

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@EveryDay «its»

What American doesn't say Miles Per Gallon.

Superpog og Jason! (Apparently)

So jealous.

A cowboy noose might be a better non invasive option

You can turn off an electromagnet

Basically you use the battery power for magnet, to recharge the battery?

Best comment of the week

@@ZulRf so long as we're pretending this is a serious idea, yes, but I really don't think electromagnets use much _power_ ... Just some current.

what's complicated? A tow strap?, simple engineering.. ha ha ha...

LOL! I don't know why but I found your comment very funny. 👍

thats how my parallel hybrid manual transmission/axle hot rod kinda works when its finished but most of the time in ev mode it's just a normal plug in EV conversion not being a vamper when the engine is driving down the street mins regeneration braking of course

@@richardprice5978 . Was thinking (yeh I know that is a mistake) To insult the whole aito industry someone needs to slam a Tesla Model S (dual motor) front end with a porsche 911 rear. Plug in Hybrid gold... Maybe... Or maybe not..

@@speedRacer05 👏 Thanks..

Good someone has a real car here In my opinion they shouldn't make electric cars because that's the same as just driving a rc toycar

@@jurgenraven5610 I don't think you quite got the joke...

incline, not cliff.

@@CST1992 It's reaches the bottom faster though. . .👍

@@CST1992 No, cliff - at least for me :-D

Everyone knows u charge a tesla by running down a cliff silly

@@CST1992 incline will use battery decline (yes the opposite of incline) will recharge it

Josh Larochelle great comment. Never thought of that. Now Tesla (or perhaps Rivian?) needs to build a Jeep-looking all electric to complement the RV look

Just hook the tow car to a brake controller and it’ll charge downhill.

so much this, if you could tow the tesla and use the tesla for breaking that would be AMAZING.

You got a point....

Well as long as the Regen was controllable from the cabin, that would be quite something. It would basically replace the RV's brakes. And now you mention it, the Tesla could give the RV some help up the hills...

Infinite energy machine

For sure the tesla towing it will need to use a lot more energy since the force it needs to pull is more than twice(tesla+braking).

@@faizfrez2729 no doubt I was just baiting free energy believers

Elon about to patent a new rear wheel drive car where the front wheels regenerate power. Brilliant!

As an ex tesla owner I can tell you a model s p100d has a towing range of about 60 miles whilst towing a small horse box (about the weight of itself) so it wouldn't work for more than 3 cycles before so much energy is left the car refuses to tow at all

So the answer is yes? Thank you, that saved about 11 mins of my life.

Jason, I'm sure the forklift industry contributed to your inspiration to test regenerative charging! The Toyota and Raymond electric forklifts also regenerate their battery during deceleration or "plugging"!

This is really false, but also amusing. Yes, your conclusions are false, according to all standard models, since the ratings from Tesla are inaccurate. Just measure the conversion difference, without telling us that you can recharge the tesla, by pulling it with the Raptor, and then pull the Raptor farther, with the same energy. That's not possible with any parameters.

What about the economy or efficieny from towing the raptor with your model 3. Would like to see that or have you explain what mileage you would get from your Tesla whist its towing the raptor per 1 gallon of fuel.

Basically how some some hybrids work

@Tysquarius Loggernuts where in the populated world has an average winter temperature of -13C?

I don't get the point of this. They both have similar enough efficiencies so it will just loose energy.

Ford. Means Fricked Over Rebuilt Dodge.

Actually FORD stands for Ford Only Rolls Downhill lol

I think audi e-tron regen is better, but I would love to see a real test of my statement.

@@niki123489 audi e tron regen is 2 times less effecient than tesla

Regen is no more efficient than other EV. It's moving that makes it efficient. Doing the same with SparkEV would have about the same result. But it will be pretty bad with European EV like etron and ipace due to poor drive efficiency.

Regen in inherently efficient, it's a function of synchronous motor design that the motor operation can be reversed to act as a generator. AC motors in general have efficiencies in the mid-upper 90s, and at moderate rates (i.e. not fast charging), charging and discharging a battery are also VERY efficient. Dragging the generator around the track in an inherently inefficient manner, however... Power plants are twice as efficient, even when burning fossil fuels, because they can employ steady-state operation, reheaters, waste heat recovery, and economies of scale. These advantages are lost when scaling the ICE down to "vehicle size."

@@Lawrence330 That depends on the vehicle somewhat ships I imagine get a lot closer as you can get away with a bit more on an engine that is pushing 200,000 metric tons of ship and cargo around.

And a friend with a truck. Or if you're in traffic, just sneakily tie your car to the one in front of you.

Muskoka Mike make sure to say it’s at night lmao. and idk if it should be too long, what happens if someone gets into your lane lmao

@@muskokamike127 "Huh, feels a bit sluggish."

Think about it. You only have to be towed one quarter of the distance to the next charger. The rest you can drive alone.

Muskoka Mike HAHAHHAHAHA

My 2014 Raptor gets over 18 MPG at 55 MPH. 12 MPG Pulling my 4500 LB. boat. I suspect that Raptor may 1. have the smaller 5 liter motor (less power and had to work harder) and 2 never got fast enough to get into 6th gear hurting the MPG. Wonder what the range of the Tesla is pulling a boat? It can't. Thanks for the fun video!!

@@rapalaman6681 Tesla in regen mode is essentially a brake. Imagine pulling your boat without releasing your handbrake...

@@rapalaman6681 It can pull *a* boat, just not your boat. Model X can pull your boat.

Jonathon Spears that was my immediate thought. Tesla could could put it’s electric semis on the interstates to charge Tesla’s and others. With the newish aluminum-air batteries, the semis would be economically more viable (possibly). Depending on the fees of course

Elon Musk: With our electric trucks criss-crossing America 24/7, superchargers now are a thing of the past. Now introducing..........POWERTOWING! xD

Imagine hitting a button while driving down the interstate and you hear: "Deploying atachment cable, autopilot engaged. Power-siphon enabled." Truckers would get pissed though.

@@handlemonium That sounds a lot like a train, but with more steps.

That would be awesome but it would also affect the range of the Semi's. I would have to require the Semi driver agreeing via a message whether they could link or not so they know they could make it to a destination with ample charge.

KptKakadu youve never heard of loses?

*the fbi would like to know your location*

@@gerasimger15 you've never heard of humer?

@@d-thec-tieve4648 actually I haven't heard of HUMER!!! :DD

KptKakadu its Harvard, you want a scholarship?

But then when you get in the truck you realize it's out of gas. Now what?

@@keco185 you get a taxi and see if they are happy to tow the Tesla or you push both cars

Gus Johnson Tesla’s are just cheap cars with loads of tech thrown at them and then sold for a high price.

@Gus Johnson so a cheap computer updates Windows more often than expensive one does? Damn!

keco185 go to a gas station, fill up, tow the Tesla to a charging station, wait.

LOL

😂😂

@@MrGonzonator The losses are to a first approximation constant, so the heavier the load the more power output, and thus the ratio that these losses contribute per kilowatt are less. IC engines are most efficient at a pretty high RPM, but unfortunately they rarely spend much time in this regime, unless you have a hybrid powertrain or a CVT that tries to keep engine RPM constant, where you can have a lot of design optimisation that makes for a very efficient engine over a narrow range, but abysmal performance out of it. Most common on 2 stroke engines with a tuned exhaust, that has a very narrow power band, with impressive output, but a relatively poor performance outside that spot. If your engine is going to spend all the time either off, or at peak power, it can be very efficient as power source, though hard to use for a variable load like driving, but for power generation exceeding good, provided you always have a near full load on it.

@@MrGonzonator No it's more than that, because engines running at very low load are extremely inefficient. An engine's peak efficiency is always found at high torque and low speed, which is what is happening during the tow. The efficiency difference between low load and high load could be as much as 10% or more.

The Raptor is also driving slowly while towing so low drag losses, compared to normal speeds for getting to a destination.

Correct, it likely makes power more efficiently while towing (though obviously uses more fuel, but a greater percentage of that fuel goes towards useful work).

@@MrGonzonator One of the reasons that diesels are more efficient is that they are unthrottled. By operating the Raptor at closer to open throttle you have less pumping losses. In addition, every IC engine is more efficient at turning fuel into useful work at the point nearest maximum BMEP for that throttle setting which happens right near the torque peak. I'll bet Jason chose 30 km/h carefully to put the Raptor right near the torque peak.

Infinite power glitch.

@@edgarabramz with a power outlet from the TM3 to the pickup charging port

There’s already a Tesla truck, “truckla”

let the truck tow car, when the car dies, let the car tow the truck

Subi WRX that might be the case in a few years when everybody drives eletric cars.

Lol, this method of towing is wildly unsafe for public roads, so not so sure. Rvs usually have the front of the car lifted.

@@xenteon4691 The front wheels are lifted to prevent drag and not destroy the transmission in the car. Jeeps and others with dedicated transfer case can be towed flat. The T case is put in neutral and a hard bar setup is used on the front bumper instead if tow strap. I'm intrigued.

jarrod finnigan still what about pot holes

@@xenteon4691 Mmm... Not always

Tow dollys are used with RVs with most automatic transmission cars so as not to damage the transmission. Automatic transmissions typically depend on the engine running to pump ATF for lubrication. Most manual transmission cars can be flat towed without a problem. In ye olden days when rear wheel drive was common place, flat towing automatic cars was more common as well as it was easy enough to just remove the car's drive shaft for a long tow. Assuming you have a car that can be flat towed without causing damage, it is a pretty good way to go as it is cheap and easy to connect and disconnect from the RV.

@@superandreanintendo Isn't that similar to going down on a long, steep grade with a fully loaded Tesla?

I call BS. Like mibars said, it's essentially the same as regen down a long, steep grade. I have driven my Model S up and down several mountain passes and on the way down I have regenerated more than 10% of the battery capacity with absolutely no overheating or any other problems at all. The only concern could be if the battery eventually gets full and you try to regen even more. But even for this case the Tesla protects its battery by gradually reducing the amount of regen power while approaching 100% State of Charge. In case of towing, the Tesla would gradually be pulling less on the tow cable. In case of driving down a mountain the regen would gradually get weaker and eventually you would need to use your mechanical brakes. Also the regen power is less than the power recieved during charging at a SuperCharger. And obviously the battery cooling system is capable of keeping the battery pack reasonably cool. So there is no way you could overheat or damage your battery doing this.

I'm no engineer for Tesla so I can't say how they may or may not protect their car batteries but....Tesla themselves say it's bad. Just go into your menu>service>towing and it has a picture and literally says verbatim, "DO NOT transport with any wheels on the ground. This can lead to significant damage and overheating."

@@BassPlayerUnderGrace It's correct that Tesla is discouraging to tow the vehicle without all 4 wheels are off the ground. The guarantee will not cover any damages. However, I can't see how towing a Tesla as shown in the video could be damaging as long as you take all precautions necessary. Of course, doing like shown in the video, the car should not be in tow mode, but it should be put into Drive, so the car just thinks it is driving normally, but actually being towed. Personally, I would not have any worries towing my Tesla as shown in the video, if it was running low on battery and I couldn't make it to the next charging station. It has been shown many times that it actually works and I have never heard about anyone who damaged the vehicle doing so. Maybe the overheating warning is meant for the other vehicle towing the Tesla? Actually the regen is quite strong, so the other vehicle would have to work quite hard to tow it.

@@BassPlayerUnderGrace But I guess this is for towing a disabled vehicle, not a vehicle that is basically on and running. I'm suspecting that this may be about the brakes that may be applied when parked.

After tow charging the Tesla, the Tesla may have towed the Tapter another 2 miles. making it MUCH less efficient than the Rapter alone.

A dead car ain’t towing so much as a HotWheel.

What would that prove?

We already do; its called a Prius around since 2000...

@@iamshawngriffin I guess I missed the part where you ditch half of your Prius on the side of the road to continue on with the lighter more fuel efficient part... Or maybe you missed the joke and don't know what a multi-stage rocket is.

With a big ol v8

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I gave this an Imperial thumbs up, which is 0.87 US thumbs up.

Just convert to calories then to mcdoubles then we will all have a common understanding.

@@truantray Good thing you specified US thumbs up, because I was worried you were actually using British thumbs up, which is 0.73

Next innovation. A self-extending tow strap that secretly ties to the back of a semi trailer without the semi knowing. Pull up, tie up, steal power and then continue on your trip.

@@mkkm945 extension connects to recharge , "refuel".....like in flight refueling on military jets.

@D.O.A. Dude, it was a joke.

They won’t get the mountains up

Genius!

I really like that on this channel, people don't immediately go apeshit when it comes to electric cars. Car guys usually love to hate on them.

Electric Vehicles are the future.. Cars running on LiPo batteries aren't..

about 3000 Newtons based on the power used to charge the Tesla

2:39 am for me 😂

Knowing Elon's supervillain antics it would be a harpoon/magnet/grappling hook that you shoot out from the front, James Bond style.

@@AhuizotlXiuh the boring company would actually sell those modifications

2:34 for me

@Sadboi_999 What if you photocopy a lens?

matthew laskowski LMAO

Brian Mirante Next question: If I lived on top of a mountain and worked at the bottom and had no charge left in my Tesla how far could I get back to home before I ran out of regenerative charge?

Rahul Roy a Tesla truck lol I wanna see this now lol

@@shanesnerdworld youll see it soon

Shane's Nerd World you’ll see it very very soon

RV...god, this is what I'll see in a few summers. RV's towing Teslas behind them recharging their batteries.

You can roll coal and charge the vehicle at the same time..!

But bro and abfh if he sshdb able djdjch like ztagb

oooo reillyyyyyy auto parts...oww...

Lol

If you've got a headwind, you could actually put a windmill on top because added aerodynamic drag would likely be (slightly) lower than energy generated.

But what if..... Just think....... If we just put the sail on the gasoline vehicles...... Mind blown

Exactly! And if you combine them you get........a railroad locomotive!

Genius. Drive Raptor Pulling Tesla to work. Drive Tesla Backwards Back Home Pulling Raptor

ZImpresive even better 👀

😂😂😂 GREAT IDEA Elon Musk wants to know your location

You need to become a writer on doctor who.

LMAO

kind of a new-age tractor pull...

Take the Raptor, mash the peddle, watch the regen system on the Tesla melt down, Raptors coasts to the victory.

You gave me an idea lol. Just kidding, but that does sound like a sign you'd see in rural Louisiana where I live. I'd want someone to be in the car for safety though, never know when a deer or some other critter is gonna run across the road here.

Nope, corners are to Tesla's advantage -- it gives them the opportunity to do some regen braking. (In fact, EV MPG ratings are better in the city than on the highway for that reason)