Canon R5 vs Sony A7SIII vs 1dx Mark III - The Ultimate Video Shootout 

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Same. I'll take higher dynamic range and bit depth over resolution any day. 16-bit RAW and 15 stops of dynamic range is crazy. You'd normally have to get a RED for those specs.

Sony was clearly delaying this camera, the specs are simply outstanding, and Sony has been so long on the mirrorless game that they are just on the top of the game, Sony's bodies are just so reliable right now, while the r5 is getting more people away from the brand

C-Log3 is also coming for the R5, the Sony won't have a huge advantage.

@@weigertj Until Canon fixes overheating in firmware, C-Log wouldn't make a difference too. I think someone did a teardown of the R5 and it was built to overheat, with improper thermal pads on the processor. And even with fresh thermal paste, it still overheated, meaning it's the Canon cripple hammer at work again.

@@professionalpotato4764 you're reading influenced information, my friend. The actual facts can be found when you read more information that is available. The camera is artificially or prematurely overheating. It is also cooling down significantly quicker than the camera says it is. The temperature of the camera is recorded in RAW files and now that we know this, everyone is doing work to find out how it actually heats up and cools down. The conclusion is that it's a firmware update away from vastly improved video use. At least as it relates to cool down times and thermal management as you shoot photos and switch the video. The camera is on a strange timer that doesn't appear to depend on the actual camera temperature being read directly off the main board.

Parker Walbeck bro let’s do it haha! I’ll do all the tests and you can just talk about it l, deal? 🤣

So true

Just got a new job so I can order my A7S3 in 2-3 years! *fresh grad crying noises*

They work for him, he's made his success on the back of that camera line (and skill and stuff).

Sometimes you just can't give up the old faithful

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He's Canon Lover 😅

Because he already dropped a bank on it lol

cause he made the video. And Parker helped Landon to make this. That's why

Nafees An Noor not the reason call him assistant lol

Landon has Sony skin tones while Parker has Canon skin tones. Interesting. Awesome job gentlemen. Top notch!

@@controllverse4013 wich skin tone is the best you think

Hi @@Travis015! I don't want to get too personal with Landon and Parker's skin tones, so I'll say no comment on that one. LOL but between Canon and Sony, I'd rather have the slightly less saturation and 2 more stops of dynamic range of the Sony. And sometimes, even the Sony has more saturated and magenta skin tones than the Canon. It's a toss up.

yeah but when gunning for being the ultimate hybrid monster in a compact body the result are simple, 🔥🔥🔥🔥(literally). Sony knows it got the a7 & a9 for other priorities so what you get is a reliable shooter.

Not to mention, for just online use, 12MP is good enough.

R5 is a photo beast, might as well be comparing a hassleblad to the A7SIII. That camera is so crippled at 12 MP, no pro would be caught dead with it. I've been shooting as a pro photographer for 15 years, mostly with 1 Series cams.... sold my R the other week to see what i would get next, and heard 12 MP on the Sony and laughed pretty hard. The A7RIV is a better camera than the A7SIII and yet, the A7RIV is still a generation behind the R5 when it comes to sensor tech (R5 has more dynamic range than any full frame camera to date in Photons to Photos tests) , and the R5 is slightly better at eye AF now, and has better video options as the A7RIV can only do 4K 30. It's sad that in order to make a camera good at video, Sony severely crippled the A7SIII. And the whole "12 MP is good enough for online use" is the biggest pile of horse#$@ I've ever heard. Guess what? 99% of video is viewed on RU-vid - which is 8 bit iPB - in 1080 or less on tiny cellphone screens. Resolution is more important to photography than it is to video. Colours are more important than resolution, and Sony colours have been crippled for years. Canon has put cinema grade colours in all their cameras, all the way down to the $500 rebel cameras.

@@professionalpotato4764 🤣 If that makes you feel better about spending $4800 on a one trick pony then great! As a pro photographer (which makes up a far greater share of consumers than videographers), I gave up 12 MP back in about 2009. Good luck with all that.

@@77dris "That camera is so crippled at 12 MP, no pro would be caught dead with it." Uh, no *photography* pro. Which is fine, since it's not a camera aimed at photographers. They have their a7RIV for that. Hybrid cameras are always a compromise in one place or another, I wish they would just stop making them. But the masses keep falling for it. The people in this video are right... Canon did a piss poor job marketing the R5. It's a photography camera with a video mode tacked on. The a7SIII is the opposite. Naturally photographers are going to be drawn to the Canon, while videographers are going to be drawn to the Sony. But whereas Sony has an answer for the photographers, Canon leaves people shooting video out in the cold...

these guys are the best.

You kind of did with your view, like, and subscribing - if you did lol

Always on the ball. 😃👍

Thanks for the confirmation, already started googling and crying about getting expensive cf cards.

Phillip I have a question. Can I record 4k 600mbps on v90 card or do I need cf-a card? Also does 4k 120fps max bitrate require cf-a cards or just top of the line v90? Thanks in advance :)

can I use v60 to record if set to 8bit

Dariusz Pawłowski where is 4K 600mbps? Is this s&q mode?

Thanks, captain obvious. But your skill is your skill, and you should always be trying to improve it. In the meantime, you should also get the best performing tools you can.

They have improved a lot since the first A7 Mark I in terms of color science, also they deliver the most for the price. Props to Sony for doing a great job overall.

Sony in general has better dynamic range which works well for videography. But for photos, Sony’s color science is difficult to work with. Esp if u have 1000+ photos to edit in post. Lol

Nowhere near Canon colors Canon colors are legendary

@@lovesushma48 I think they mean straight out of camera. Tony Northrup did a blind test and everyone picked Sony for the best colours.

that my friend is because of the 15 stop DR

They tried this new Menu System and Canons is more intuitive and also cusomizable. So whatts your point? The touch Screen of the R5/R6 is far more better in use, especially during Shooting

If you are doing 4 channels of audio then you should be using something external as far as I am aware. Zoom or Tascam have external devices that enable 4 channels or more of xlr imputs or 1/4 inch jacks usually. And they let you record backups as well as give you a line out for imput into the camera's mic jack. Im not an audio engineer so I might not have understood the question, I am just a guitar player with 25 years of playing around with sound and 6 years of camera work that audio is not my strong suit in. But as far as I am aware the K3M, just as Panasonics version, only gives you a couple channels of audio. That works for a couple boom mic's that can record a broad area. Or a couple lav mic's for example. But if you need more than that I use a Zoom H6 with 6 channel recording. Or record each source individually and mix them in post with the Zoom h1n with a backup on the camera in case I have a problem with one of the audio sources. Just my personal way of doing things as a bootleg sound guy/one man band. But if I have a lot to record in audio I use the on camera xlr's as my backup auido in case I have a problem with a bad cable, jack, battery, or sd card on the Zoom's.

@@gimiked8685 Sony had a webinar and i asked them about this. They had a complicated slide which I did not screen shot. They claimed that the K3M will send 2 lines of stereo to the A7SIII. If you look, some of the product video from Sony shows 4 audio channels active on the touch screen. I vlog and if I had to record external I would buy a new camcorder instead.

I think the k3m has a built un mic, a 3.5, and two xlrs? Idk I'll let you know when I get mine.

@@jalexanderevans I have mine now. The XLR-K3M has 2 x XLR mono inputs, with Attenuation and a Low Cut filter, gain, and (line power?). Plus 1 x 3.5mm stereo input with Input gain only. So getting the 4 channel is doable, a little awkward. 4 x XLR would be better, but that would be a cinema camera. I will use it mostly "in studio" on a tripod. For walking around I ordered the smaller mic ECM-B1M

@@Atamaii yeah, I was thinking about it later and thought about the on-camera mic. The files working okay for you? Heard they only sometimes work in Premier Pro.

No one, pro cinema is true 12 bit color ProRes 4444 or 12 bit log encoding Raw or that is the same 16 bit linear Raw.

Nice one! Lol

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St. Paul??? That's a new one.

Cant go wrong with fulltime filmmaker

Ya ya 😍

Now all that's left is to bring the new tech/features to A7IV, and hopefully some of it to the new line of a7000 aps-c series.

Professional Potato yup! I’ll also wait for the a7iv since they are cheaper and more well rounded for photo and video but they still get the features from the s and r cameras.

Sony has always been a head of the game in film making.

Not when Canon officially announced it has overheating issues. There are plenty of other options where you don't have to worry about this. Lumix S1H, Blackmagic pocket 6k, Nikon Z7 etc... all better options in my opinion. But you are right the Sony is a great option.

It doesnt. It was a Draw! The Canon R5 is by far the best hybrid camera. Sony focuses more on Video. If you shoot mostly Video you will choose the sony

@@airb1976 this whole review is about video.they choosing camera for video mainly

@@airb1976 nah in each rank sony wins from a7 to a7r or 7s and let's not say the a9 destroy canon always, when canon thinks hes winning boom sony comes out close mouths hahaha

@@aldenispineda4628 the a9 has inferior AF to canon

Oh. If your preorder R5 has not arrived yet, you actually have chance to correct your order. Glad.

In the past, has Canon released major software updates?

Great! What’s your favourite camera?

same here

same here except I started from -$5000

Covid does suck

Pinoy 😆

What the ????? 😂😂🤣😂😂

yeah, it's false category

@@Dano-Media and it comes with the best AF without adapter, it's another selling point for us sony shooter

Agreed, was going to say the same thing. The category was literally called Lens Options. Also, from what Potato Jet said about the Sigma adapter (the one Sony recommended), you get fast AF from your Canon EF glass. But, they did a pretty good job with their categories and the likert scale for each category was simple removing complexity from judging the value, yet still allowing you to come to a fairly nominal value that you could draw conclusions from. What I would recommend is to also add a "Weight" to each category. 0 means it isn't important, 1 means it matters, 2 means it is important, and 3 means it is a show stopper. You then multiply the 0,1, 2 likert scale result times the weight. So if lowlight is a show stopper (aka a weight of 3) and the A7SIII gets your #1 spot or 2 points on the likert scale, you would give the A7SIII 6 points for lowlight (3 weight times 2 score on likert scale). Now you could take their scores for each category and adjust the final results based on weighting each category. Their current method gives the same exact value for each category, as way of making it even for everyone, but by applying this weighting technique to their scores, you could arrive at a conclusion that is more focused on what your find important. Which is kind of what each of them did separately at the end.

I was expecting Sony to come in first or second(First being EF) for lens options. It's the main reason I switched because you get affordable options from Tamron and Sigma. I personally have the Tamron Holy Trinity and they're an amazing value.

@@Dano-Media Checkout Jared Polin's latest vid on rhis Canon have made their own arapters and EF mount lenses work on R bodies even better than with DSLRs (because of new technologies in mirrorless bodies) Sony hasn't made their own adapter that can be used to adapt canon glasses and they even can't make In short Canon adapter : Canon Rf body + Canon EF glass it's all canon to canon thing so it works flawlessly

Will Stinton spot on!

Yet there are YT channels (not Parker's) and countless viewer comments of "Time to switch!!" like every 6-8 months. In this hypermarket we're in with The Next Big Thing always right around the corner, so many photographers are switching systems (or at least claiming to) like some people change their socks. It's crazy.

Yeah... All the more so for people like me who're starting out. I'm still on the SL2/200D, with the Sigma 18-35 most of the time. I want to upgrade but a full frame kit esp Sony is just too expensive. 2 bodies + 1 trinity sets me back at least $10k-12k. Or I could just buy 2 M6 Mk2 and another lens for like 3-4k. Until I'm getting paid 4-5 figure freelance jobs, I doubt I'll ever be able to touch full frame D: Wish I had stuck with Sony. I sold the a5100 after it overheated like every 10 minutes of 1080p.

Professional Potato I was where you are with 80D, Tokina 11-16mm, and 50mm 1.8. I did real estate for 2 years with that setup before going full frame with Sony. I bought the A7iii when it first came out and the 16-35mm GM. You can do a lot of jobs with just one camera and one lens and just build from there.

Nope. For photography, I shot Canon for over a decade and had a fair amount of "L" glass. They dragged their heels on mirrorless for so long that I switched to Sony around 2015 and sold all of my lenses. Go with the tools that work for you. It's nice to see the R5 finally starting to catch up, but I'm really tired of these cameras that think they can do it all. There is always a compromise. Sony has the right approach with a model dedicated strictly to video, and another line dedicated primarily to stills. I wish they'd just ditch the video function from the a7RIV completely, to be honest... you don't buy it for that (just like you don't buy the a7SIII for stills). But people are either okay with "hyrbid" cameras being "good enough" or they just aren't educated about their tools (probably a bit of both). If the R5 had just straight out been developed as an alternative to the a7RIV, they'd have a clear solid option. Instead, they marketed it as a video camera first and nobody is going to deal with it that way. I admit that I'm less hesitant to switch again due to having glass, but the cameras from both brands mostly do what I need now. 5 years ago, however, Canon was lagging wayyy behind. Even their glass couldn't save them.

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yeah, you marry the lenses and date the bodies, lol

I could see women all over the world cringing at this comment.... #nowivesallowed #youregonnabeinbigtroublewhensheseesthis 😂

Perfectly explained lol!

Perfect metaphor!! LOL!!

Absolutely as long as you don't intend to use it for very long and you have a second R5 for back up.

@@YogaLifeEtc LOL

That 12 MP cripple though.

77dris good point, but this was made to be a video-first camera. And I feel like Fewer megapixels is a good trade off for the incredible videography settings, especially with minimal overheating

@@JudahSpeece And the R5 is made to be a photo-first camera... but for some reason videos like this are comparing its video to one trick ponys like the A7SIII. Makes about as much sense as comparing a hassleblad medium format to a cinema camera.

77dris Good point, but it all depends if you’re a photographer or videographer. This video is made by videographers, so obviously they are going to test out the video side. I’m sure if you looked you could find one comparing the photo aspects of these cameras

@@77dris lower pixels means lower noise

أنا أعتقد أن الدقة بتكون أفضل في الEOS R5 تدعم 8Kوانت أبداً لاتكترث للحرارة لأن الأفلام أو المسلسلات عادةً كل لقطة يقعدون عليها يوم او نص يوم تخطيط وتركيب وتجربة الأدوار ومين يصلح للدور هذا ومين يصلح للدور هذا. أما الBlack magic من خبرتي أن فيها تغميش خاصةً في التصوير الليلي والتفاصيل ماتبان أكثر مع الإضاءة الليلية والألوان جداً سيئة أنا أقترح عليك الEOS R5 ولكن اذا عندك ميزانية وكان مجالك هو أفلام وhigh quality أقترح عليك EOS C70 أفضل كاميرا تقدر تشتريها بالسعر الموجود حالياً وأتمنى أنك استفدت من المقالة هذي

Point well made... I guess you tubers just enjoy doing am these tests as promoz of their channels otherswise a shooter must know first their line of photography b4 any purchase. 😁

And a camera like the BMPCC4K/6K destroy all of these in terms of image quality and not looking super "digital"

u nailed it on still img. thanks

Boon Ong Yep, the A7SIII is useless for weekend warrior dad like me.

I agree

Panasonic's stubbornness to adopt a decent AF system is frustrating, as is the S1H's crop in 4K60, but Panasonic also offers many features and professional tools that simply are not (and probably will never be) available on either of these cameras. Hell, these don't even have scopes. I think the S2H could be really special.

Panasonic is the dumbest brand ever. I Hated that stupid DFD crap

@@Makta972 good for you troll. If you know about video you know we don't buy Panasonic for it's af. smh

@@jorgem50 to be honest Pana with their current Af its not the best tool for amateurs unfortunately. Pros will want to have control over focus manually most times anyway so as you rightly said...

@@iforgotmyusername0 exactly. I prefer to have total control of my focus. I'm not a pro but I know how to use my panasonic's in manual focus.

And it's also the reason they'll keep getting uninformed sheep to keep watching.

@@daltonrandall4348 I don't get your point or what you mean by "uninformed". The video is filled with information, the same information you can find in many other reviews. But yeah, in the end, the camera is just a tool (also proven many times in other videos in the same channel). Whoever thinks the camera matters more than the human behind it is the real "sheep" in my opinion.

@@RafaelGringo They're both important. You said, quote, *it doesn't matter what you shoot with.* You can believe that all you want, but there's a reason Steven Spielberg doesn't shoot his movies on an iPhone. Yes, you need to learn your craft. But dismissing the tool as unimportant because "it's all about skill" is equally ignorant. These videos sell you on the dream that you too can be as great as the best professionals, and "you don't need the high end gear because the secrets lie within you!" It's a con to get you to buy into what THEY are selling, and if you believe it, yes, you are a sheep.

@@daltonrandall4348 Anyone who has ever shoot with a cheap entry level camera and a high end one knows there's a huge difference, not only in quality but also in ease of life. Also, everyone reaches a point where their gear simply can't do what they need. The fact is in the CONTEXT of the video, do it really matter if you shoot with a A7S, 1DX or R5? They're all beasts. That's my take on the quote I did.

@@RafaelGringo Yes, it absolutely matters. If you're on a production and your camera says it won't shoot unless you turn it off for 2 hours, you're screwed. They are not all beasts. Sony is not a "beast" when it comes to still photography. Canon is not a "beast" when it comes to video. Pick the correct tool for the job, and certainly don't pretend they don't matter.