Carol Vorderman on how voters can "stop the tories" at the next election 

We had a referendum to change the voting system and it was rejected given that in 1997 Tony Blair had a landslide victory and did not do anything to change the voting system why ? Because it would favour both labour liberals and smaller parties did he think p r would split labour vote in a general election?

@@seasons7510 2 + 2 = 5

@@seasons7510 that doesn't mean you just give up. I voted in that referendum and I remember the turnout was very low. I think more people have become aware in the years since.

​@@MrPetesimethe option put forward was crap and the press gaslit the public against it. I voted for it as it was progress even though it wasn't great progress. We should try again with better options. With better campaigning then hopefully it'll go through - I don't think we should give up. It'd be good if labour would just make it part of their manifesto.

@@seasons7510 Yes, almost certainly, and although Starmer now says he will bring about electoral reform, I regret that I will not believe it until I see it. Never trust a politician, especially if he/she has a landslide majority!

As they did with Jeremy Corbyn

They layed into her pretty badly a couple of years ago. Mistake.

Creeps dislike strong women

Senile crap. Vorderman loudly supported David Cameron. She's as Tory as they get. The only reason that she's attacking them now is that there's a rabid Tory in charge of Labour, so her ilk can vote for them, just as they voted for Tory Blair.

She has my vote!

The time has come, the Walrus said, to talk of many things, of shoes, ad ships, and sealing wax, and cabbages ad kings and whether pigs could fly. This was the agenda the Walrus proposed to the Oysters and whilst they were discussing this non Oyster agenda, he and the carpenter were eating them up, but they shed tears afterwards for the fate of the Oysters. The Walrus, rumour has it was called Rupert

You mean like Blair did with Saddam Hussain? Starmer will just do the same as the Tories and take US orders. The Labour Party is not even democratic now. It has been taken over by a dodgy group of totally unaccountable criminals. See the Labour Files. The stupid cow seems to have a mental block there.

You mean like Blair did with SSaddam HHussain? Starmer will just do the same as the Tories and take UUS orders. The LLabour Party is not even ddemocratic now. It has been taken over by a ddodgy group of totally unaccountable cccriminals. See the LLabour FFiles.

But! But! The small boats! They occupy my every waking moment!! /s

​@@benedictcowell6547 The carpenter didn't get any oysters cause the walrus ate them all so the carpenter went after him with his hammer.

its what thay have done for as long as thare party has been around fact

@@234cheech - they just used to be more subtle about it!

But the public carries on voting for them to continue their corruption, and malfeasances. Doing the same thing over and over with the expectation of a different outcome is a sign of insanity. As said Albert Einstein.

And now the public are becoming more aware of what they really are. Time to go Tories!!!

Eugenics

The same woman who used her communication skills to smear Jeremy Corbyn and spread lies about him and his party on programmes like Question Time, spouting the lies and right wing talking points easily picked up from the right wing press. That is the "independent thinking woman" she claims to be. I doubt she made that much difference though and she'll make little difference this time either.

Maths !

🙄

Close the OXFAM charity , home of perverts and fascists

Maths....not math

Can you imagine the horseshit they'd print about her?

John Cleese once studied the idea of moral politics with the help of doctor, psychiatrist and psychotherapist Robin Skinner. They concluded that the people with the drive to become leaders at Prime Minister level are by default unsuitable to do the job. The reason people like Jeremy Corbyn were hampered in becoming Prime Minister came down in great part to them sticking to a moral position as opposed to merely doing whatever was required to gain power. If Carol wanted to become an MP she would quickly find herself hamstrung when trying to call out the matters of importance. To get any traction and move beyond the back benches she would have to "play the game" and risk being consumed by it. She is far more valuable outside the reach of the inherrant corrupting influence of politics observing from a safe distance. One of the big issues she highlights with the mainstream media is that they are too close to the people they are supposed to be holding to account.

We have enough present politicians playing at it some as a second job ,some as a hobby such as Rees - Mogg ,Nigel Farage and Starmer who could be anything - Tory ,Labour ,Green Lib/Dem ,he"s going anywhere and everywhere to try & attract some delusional Brexit voters on the lead - up to the next election .And you would be saying give more power and funding to the local council if you had ours in South Yorkshire ,we are the biggest county so we should be one of the wealthiest ,but they spend taxpayers money like drunken sailors on shore leave ! .

I understand your sentiment. As we all know, Carol is an intelligent woman. She knows that she doesn't need the magnifying glass & associated rhetoric she'd face as an MP.

She would be great I could happen it is the rise of women.

You say that, but never underestimate the stupidity and gullibility of the British public. There will be bribes sold in the newspapers just before election time and many will go for it!

It may be a 2023 one. 🤞

I hope labour reverse privatisation of most of the services whilst fixing the NHS back to its rightful functional state. And I also hope they cater for the public and not the corporate crowd through austerity which has seen a 4 pint of milk go from £1 to £1.60 in the space of 2 years..... Which is a 60% increase. Rents need capping especially in England as you's lot are getting robbed and are essentially modern slaves as your working to live opposed to living to work which should be the status quo as it was prior to COVID

AMEN

sooner the better!

so u want labour who will just crash the economy and give more money to benefit scroungers?

They are all getting kicked out.

Except Andrew Brigden - now with the Respect Party as he was forced out by the Tories for telling the TRUTH!

My thoughts exactly Terry.

You are very correct.... 💯

@@folaflakes7111 And when Labour were ousted there was a note in the Treasury saying "sorry, all the money has gone.

@@anthonymcguire3618 that was a joke as there never was any money!! The country has been running a deficit ever since the 70s and the creation of fiat currencies! Both parties are neoliberal in economics and produce a boom bust situation between them, it’s all a pantomime!!

@@anthonymcguire3618 The note was a joke and Brown dealt with the global financial crisis pretty well as far as I'm aware.

It is exactly that! 👏

And yet in 1997 with a landslide victory Tony Blair did nothing

@@seasons7510 ... Yea, back then Labour had the chance to change the electoral system in the UK for good as the Tories were very much on the backfoot and in decline. But he chose to not make these necessary changes. Perhaps he was under pressure from other influential Labour figures at the time, not to change the electoral system? I don't know..... we'll never know. But it was an epic missed opportunity, because the Tories would NOT have been able to change it back to FPTP upon return. We may even have had a different coalition government in 2010 instead! - Lab/Lib, rather than Con/Lib. I understand that Labour today are still opposed to changing to PR - but why? As FPTP clearly only really benefits the Tories. And that is a great pity. Because it means we are probably forever stuck with an archaic electoral system that was designed back in the 19th century. It doesn't really fit in with a 21st century world, yet here it still is, and is likely to be for a long time yet. It perfectly suits a country obsessed with looking back, rather than looking ahead.

@@robtyman4281 my belief is that Tony Blair was open to p /r before the election but when he got the landslide he didn’t think labour would need it for a long time he got seduced by the big majority and he thought labour could continue to win with first past the post if he went to p/r he risked the Labour Party splitting left and right not as big a risk for the tories I would like to see more truly independent mps I think that would benefit us all

I hope Labour dont make the same mistake again . Most party members back PR .

Not whilst they run the UK.

Well vote them out England and whoever votes for them in Scotland!

Liverpool too.

@@tonycowin You guys should try to break away from the UK too. Then we can form a new union. The People's Republic of Britania or something. Then we can just build a wall around the south east and rejoin Europe.

Unfortunately, it isn't SNP free.

Perfectly put

yes, we do, but for the next election we just need to focus on getting the Tories out, they're the worst of a bad bunch. the idea that Labour are just as bad is hysterically untrue and dangerous. Labour are terrible, but they're not Tory abhorrent.

so u want labour who will just crash the economy and give more money to benefit scroungers?

Er, SNP are destroying Scotland. No Tories required 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@@Andrew-ri5qo Why would that be? They don't have control of 70+% of the taxation. Scotland receives a stipend from WM out of its own finances.

Sturgeon has been arrested. I suppose that it's WM's fault too 😉

@@Andrew-ri5qo Difficult to comment on given the contempt of court situation.

What a wonderful party you have in the SNP!

Gilf

Oh dear another one uses that cretinous expression.

However she claims she has no affiliation to any political party!

@@DrMontague So? She's speaking out about what she feels is wrong with the people currently in power. That's very different from expressing an affiliation to any political party.

She's trying her best to stay relevant and in the limelight now that she's over the hill aesthetically imo

The first past the post system works. It got rid of a failed Labour government in 1979 a failed Tory government in 1997 and a failed Labour government in 2010. It's possible it'll remove this lot in 2024. PR could leave the UK under a permanent centre left coalition. It could lead to election chaos as in Italy or Germany which took months to stitch a government together.

labour need more than public relations they need a total c change on what they stand for..

Your vote may count this time

​@@lloydnaylor6113how were they a failed guv i remember being able to get proper treatment under labour .i think you are a delusional if you think the torys are better look what thatcher did decimated our manufacturing industry and just left the banking and service industry and now we are paying the price for her police's are still causing problems now .she allowed building sociatys to become banks now theres hardly any so no competition and the banks are terrible for morgages .you may remember thousnds being made homeless every week when she jacked up interest rates .didnt she have a mass murder Pinochet as a chum then camoren who gave us all those years of austerity that he admitted didnt work then truss who trashed the economy in a few weeks .then borise get brexit done well he certainly did it .sunack the cowerd .goodness you must be one of them or ill informed 😮

Lets hope there all kicked out tice another tory .

Plus she is a qualified pilot, and owns her own little plane, what a treasure.

And a massive slapper. 😂 Saw her in a hotel bar in Cardiff with four men, one had his dick out in the bar, she never batted an eyelid. 😉

Here,here.

She is not part of politics though. if she actually runs for office i would respect her more but she is just trying to be relevant again talking about stuff she has no idea about from her social media sidelines.

A National treasure at WHAT!!!?

@@ferraridinoman there is not National Treasure of WHAT!!!? a national treasure is a Nanional Treasure. Comments like yours make me suspect you are either a Tory or a leave voter, or both.

@@edwardbernthal160 Sorry my friend nice insult, but wrong on both counts! x

@@ferraridinoman I am trying to find out what a Nanional is. Have a happy evening.xx

"BOOM-BOOM"!

Agreed. Fabulous and tragic at the same time and the only reason I say this is because there should be a lot more high profile people speaking up against the corruption in government too.

@@DavoInMelbourne fabulous and tragic indeed that we are so poorly represented by Labour also that the main reason to vote them is to stop the Tories. People like Mick Lynch or Carol do a better job representing us that our elected representatives.

is she hell! Richard Tice

@@remedy5k915”of the people’,not ‘of the deranged right wing Brexit loving morons. ‘ They can exclude themselves from any mention of “the people”.

She doesn't speak for the majority in this country, so woke

Who will replace them? Meet the new boss, same as the new boss, etc etc

Unfortunately PR means that there is almost always a hung and therefore impotent parliament. Let's not forget that under your wonderful idea of PR parties like ukip would have taken large proportion of the vote and therefore a large proportion of the seats...is that what you want??? You may think it's a good idea if you support one of the parties that is never ever likely to be in power such as the greens or the lib Dems but be careful what you wish for...as for vorderman and her labour leaning tendencies let's have a look at how wonderful Wales is being run

@@davewright9312 UKIP are no more xx

@@davewright9312 You can’t make a comparison because all regions are allocated funds from central government & taxation is from central government , it’s this kind of misinformation that you believe in that got us brexit , knowing part of the story is worse than knowing none of the story , jeez !

@@davewright9312 If it keeps the filthy tories out then it’s a yes from Len !

She has a wonderful spirit, yes. She's the voice of the country at this point.

In which case the voters should have ignored career liars poisoning them against Corbyn and voted in a Labour party that didn't kowtow to privilege when they had a chance. As painful as it is the best option is to get the Tories out and Labour in. Then make sure Starmer hits the road ASAP. Tactical voting will work on a Labour government too. If we can get the Tories to resign at every level we can surely get the cowardly Starmerites out of the Commons before they get too settled.

@@trevorberridge6079 “get Labour in and then get Starmer to hit the road ASAP”? That’s like the rich guys ordering dinner at a restaurant, and you expecting them to leave before they eat it, while they still pay for it.

Starmer is a Tory in disguise, exact same ilk as current government 😮

@@trevorberridge6079 His own MP's got rid of him, he was standing alone. That is the corrupt government on all sides.

Starmer is the most dishonest man in parliament. But he might be a bitter pill we have to swallow for now. If only JC would form a new party for us to invest in.

If Starmer only gets a coalition, proportional representation could be actually pushed through by SNP or LibDems or Green. It's the only thing giving me hope atm

Monster raving looney party.

@vodaredhill1704 sorry, there has been one party worth voting for.

There have been you just allowed a heavily biased press to convince you they didn't exist.

All that matters really is there's always been one party worth voting against. Until the voting system is changed, that's the way it is, we have to vote to remove the most toxic option.

Definitely, got mine.

Really hope she does.

i agree with you, i never have paid much attention to her either

so u want labour who will just crash the economy and give more money to benefit scroungers?

@@phlegmony no not labour. There as bad as each other. Lynch dempsey hislop Lewis even Clarkson would do for me

No we don't. Another champagne socialist who does not in any shape or form represent the traditional working class person. Open your eyes, utilise your brain cells and tell me what you really see😮.

Potty mouth Raynor ?

Yes, she’s certainly “Very up front”…….

Just the one would do for me! 😅

@@gerryquinn5224 A nice pair is better than one!

Totally agree 100%

Yeah, I remember seeing her on countdown & how 2, back in the 90s. Amazing lady.

It's called plastic surgery. Her surgeon is better than most.

so u want labour who will just crash the economy and give more money to benefit scroungers?

@Phlegmony Sofââ lol the tories have already crashed the economy and gave money to illegal immigrants 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@@phlegmony imagine believing in politicians of any colour 😭😭😭😭

so u want labour who will just crash the economy and give more money to benefit scroungers?