CATALAN LANGUAGE & DIALECTS 

If you mean pronunciation-wise, no, it isn't influenced by Castillian at all, it's just that they lost the neutral vowel (schwa sound) whereas the eastern dialects retained it, being Balearic Catalan the one preserving stressed schwa, which doesn't occur in Central Catalan where unstressed A and E are pronounced as schwa. Alguerese is the only exception in eastern dialects as it doesn't have neutralization and turns all unstressed A and E into the sound of /a/

@junkvideos4527 the language's sister that have influence on catalan is aragonese catalan til today aragonese and valencian haven mutual love by themselves.

@@TunahTak Exactly, well said!

​​@@bipbup5175 the friendly problem of this channel is that lay people want to teach linguists only talk nonsense, garbage and misinformation and when we try to help they want to harm us polemicize in ignorance, avoid superb and crazy people.

Yea,they are faster and sounds they used much powers.

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Nuke him.

que mano????? 💀💀💀💀💀💀

Don't agree

French:

Gratias per vostre opinion, catalaniste.

Rien à voir mais il n'y a que moi qui trouve que la langue turc est une langue magnifique ??

@@Felsefe_Adami je suis d'accord. Je le parle

Romangnol and Emilian had a catalan and balearic influence in vocabulary, sardinha and corse too. Emilian have a imponente sound, celtic sound too. Hugs to Emilia and Ferrara and San Marino.

I would truly enjoy listening at a comparison between this dialects and the Algeres dialect!

@@TunahTak Besides, it is not a very well known fact, but the territory known today as Old Catalonia (Catalunya Vella) had close contact, commerce dealings and cultural influence not only by Occitania, Provence and Gascony, but also Northern Italian territories, throughout the entire Middle Ages.

It's Andorra's flag, since Andorra uses Standard Catalan.

Bro you are not even catalan

Andorra flag is like the french flag but, instead of white, it's yellow (like Romania) and has the national arms in the middle of the yellow stripe...

Exactly.

(no és el meu) igual. Tmb les illes balears son bellíssimes

Yes with your dialects and theses languages and idioms are from group of oc and sons of Occitan. All are charmin' and eloquents and sexy too 🥂🥂🥂🥂🥂

@@TunahTak 🍻👙🌊

Geroago eta hobeki ulertzen dugu elkar, hain xuxen euskara batuari esker, euskara batuaren ezagutzeari esker, hobeki erran. Eta, gainerat, noiznahi bagara Euskal Herriko lekuren batean, noiznahi badugu Euskal Herriko norbait ezagunik edo lagun, telebixtaren bidez hainbat era entzuten dugu eta hola ttipi-ttapa hainbat era ulertzen dugu.

Chechenian code idiom today is a familiar of basic and nuoragic lang too for basque, basque never was a isolated idiom

Eastern Oc iberic subfamily group is perfect and beauty🥂🥂🥂🥂🥂 ❤❤❤❤❤

Gràcies 💙❤️💛

Jo tampoc ho entenc, però també ho fa amb altres llengües

@SergiSetze Nice view, the 3 idioms are ALL dialect of Occitan spoked in Spain. In a deep level are 3 variants versions of the same language of oc.

@@TunahTak no, el català/valencià/mallorquí era igual, idèntic, als primera escrits i ja en època preliterària. L'occità i català eren llengües diferenciades amb característiques diferenciades des d'època del llatí vulgar, i es pot veure per exemple en el pronom jo/eu, els preferit perfet, la reducció dels plurals AS>es, la diftongació condicionada com OC'LU>oyl > uoyl> ULL/UELH, etc. Tot estudiat per Ferrando, Casanova, Gulsoy, Recasens, Moll, etc. Són el mateix diasistema com castellà i portugués

​​​​​@@SergiSetze I'm glad I'm not so far away from information, look, I studied with Valencianists, Catalanists and Majorcanists, they told me that the 3 variants are ancient in origin and all are adaptations of old Provencal and old Occitan in Spain, then they informed me of the dynasty of King Jaime and in Aragon and Valencia and Henrique in Catalonia, then the 3 languages begin to separate there by the European navigations in Asia, Africa and the Oceans etc, involving wars and piracy, but all form a subfamily with Occitan and form a diastema a dyssynchrony with the languages of oil such as gallo, parisino, norman, picardo etc. here too you are cursed by the ancients too. But you can see the common origin of both. The Catalan Aragonese is already influenced by both Roussilhones and Gascon and Aranes, at this point in time you are cursed by the ancients. Another thing that makes them sisters is that they all come from the vulgar Roman, Latin, Roman and Romanesque speech as well and also all have an undeniable Occitan and Provencal base. At this point we agree too. Bye Seitze I'll stick around thanks for the exchange of information. Out here in others topics of this vídeo ya said that are the same idiom, so its confirm that they have the same origin occitan provenzal and romanesque and latinory origins too. I'll stick with my sources, which are also serious and have no political agenda thank god and are from the old school of these languages. Take care, bye. 👍🍻👋👋👋👍👍🫂👋👋🌃🌇🥂🎉

@@TunahTak who the fuck is Henrique of Catalonia? And I heard about catalan and occitan being the same language in early middle ages, but nowadays occitan and catalan are separate languages. Is like saying that asturleones and castillian are the same language

Thanks for your comment, plus a update about the catalan regiolect 👍🍹✌️

Andy is smart and strategic, I think she uses classic and modern Catalan to later lead the listener to understand the very archaic old phase of Catalan and then lead the listener to understand the current, modern version of Catalan well later, that is to say, to get used to it people the linguistics of that language and finally understand the current stage of it. I support Andy's work she needs more co_workers forever in her channel

Hi I am also a native Catalan speaker and I can assure the Catalan from Catalonia spoken on the video is based on the North-Western dialect (upnorth from Almatret village and roughly west from Solsona), which is not the standard used by institutions (based on the Central dialect historicaly spoken in and around Barcelona). It has nothing to do with time or an archaic form or Catalan. In fact, the North-Western is well alive and, if anything, it retains the historical pronounciation of atonal "a", "e" and "o" (as in Valencian) systematically transformed into neutral vowel and "u" in Central and North-Eastern dialects.

El valencià és u dels dialectes que mes es semblen a l'espanyol

@@alexvera389 bastante la verdad

Yes true fact the group of Oc are pretty , intende and expressive and soft too 🥂🥂🥂🥂

just missing the playlist list of all oc languages together from spain, france, italy and switzerland together. Andy gonna do this.

They represent the old catalan, and there are some mistakes with syntax and pronunciation. the "a" and the "e" are usually neutralized :))

​​@@RaByeeHow seems the neutral *"a"* and *"e"* in hodiern catalan? We have this neutral vowels on other neoromanics idioms, neolatins speech to we compare with hodiern catalan today? I'm customized with classic and modern catalan.🍹🍹🍹🍹

It leaves a bit to be desired to be honest with you, as both the Valencian and Majorcan use secessionist orthographies from blaverists (Real Acadèmia de la Cultura Valenciana) and gonellists respectively (Acadèmi de sa Llengo Baléà). When it comes to the Catalan speaker he might as well be someone from Barcelona, since Barcelona tends to do the neutral vowel more open due to influences from Spanish, the sound being closer as to how Brazilians pronounce unstressed a Edit: Nvm, the Catalan Speaker sounds like someone who speaks some Western dialect, that's what happens when I don't bother to watch the video xD

​@@bipbup5175 I found your placement and comparison interesting, the a e o e neutral in Catalan being the "a" and the "e", taking these same common sounds with Portuguese, whereas in the Portuguese view the a e o e is unstressed and weak and when accented and with the acute sign type á that is, that in the internal view of Portuguese it is a vowel with a weak sound, declined or not. I liked the comparison because it helps to understand in practice the way of the Latin languages. Thanks for the comparison and information, the exchange of data between us became more concrete.

Uruguai=👨🏿 pobreza extrema

ai no Uruguai fede?

q si bro, inventat tot el q vulguis

@@JoRdi-ul4xg it's not my invention. It is the conclusion of the most important historians, medievalists, linguists and philologists of the 19th and 20th century. You just have to go to the library and read about it.

You passed by Valencian and influenced by Aragonese, you took paint not by Cantabrian no, you never were.

Andy yet already done this analogy search for this vídeo here in channel, bye.👋👍

@@TunahTak egyptian arabic not fusha

Its probably Andy compares rohingya and arabic egyptian. Coptic is egyptian and helenic near to cypriot never related to arabics codes idioms. 👍👍👍👍

I can talk to her to do theses analogies that ya need.

Depends of romanic subfamily: If you talk about central iberic subfamily B and V its the same sound ex; andalucian, cantabric, leonese navarro. Still in Oc subfamily b and V sounds ARE distincted. This is eastern iberic family as catalan, valencian, balearic, aragonese. However in Western Iberic subfamily group Galaic group b and v are distincted too as in portuguese, galician,asturian, mirandese. Theses sounds are fixed and separated too similar with eastern Oc subfamily group.

Depends on the dialect, all Balearic dialects do pronounce V as /v/, in Valencian southerm dialects and the dialect of La Plana Baixa and part of La Plana Alta retain this sound, in Alguerese they retained it as well and finally some old speakers from the area of Tarragona mantain it as well. The rest pronounce V as either /b/ or /β/ if it's in between vowels

That's according to language secessionist, of which the majority doesn't speak Valencian at all. Valencian is the traditional name for the language spoken in the Lands of Valencia and the southern municipalities of eastern Aragon, whereas Catalan is the glottonym for all of Catalonia (including El Rosselló in France), part of Aragon, L'Alguer (in Sardinia), and the Balearic Islands (albeit Majorcan is also a traditional name in that area). Valencian and Catalan and Majorcan are all part of the same language with different names depending on the region, which is fairly normal around the world. Also, I'm puzzled as to which criteria the language secessionists use to mark the limits between Valencian and Catalan, since linguistically speaking Valencian and Western Catalan share far more common evolutions than they do with their eastern counterparts, do they use political borders? Do they base it on the glottonym? Do they think nothern Valencian isn't actual Valencian (the dialects spoken north of La Plana Baixa) or do they view Tortosí as Valencian as well (which would include part of southern Catalonia)? Clearly, it shows they don't know much about Catalan-Valencian-Balearic linguistics

It's not. Ridiculous

@MultilingualOdyssey In culture of the ancients theses 3 langs are sons of Occitan in origin, they're talkative and intelligible together . Secessionists are the hater's with political agenda and doctrination.

@@bipbup5175 Thank you so much for your detailed explanation. It is evident that there are too many similarities between the two, in addition to a common linguistic origin.

No, és la mateixa llengua.

No never wasn't, the pirates invaders of Argentina were cantabrics after leoneses and after more andalucians not the catalans. 👍👍👍 In pratice this is the way of timeline's Argentina history,Just this your partner , colleague layness ✈️👍🍻

@TunahTak Pls read again. It says "in my universe," not this universe.

​​​@@nifelheirn I know he spoke about the subjective universe, I respect that, he understands what I said to him and what is valid for linguistics and for the objective world, that's all, there is a border between opinion and science, he said his opinion I I spoke about linguistics, let's understand both sides and respect and understand each other too. @lje64257 Its all good, bye mates.👍✌️

​​@@JosiahMartinez803No colleague total misinformation, arabic andalucian was destroyed and banned from Iberic land,peninsula, cove forever. Valencian is dialect of oc as algueresian,catalan, aragoneses catalan a idiom of oc spoken in Spain son of Occitan and provençal idioms.

@@TunahTak your right

​@@JosiahMartinez803 Thanks my bro 🫂💙💙💙🫂🥂🍻🍻. We're here to help. Oss🙏🙏🙏

You are referring to a reconstruction of the XVIth century rural Valencian Andalusi Arabic dialect I made for this channel. This dialect was spoken by the majority of rural Valencian Morisco population, who lived in the alqueríes and ràfols of the Valencian Kingdom. This dialect disappeared after the Expulsion of 1609. I made a reconstruction of it out of several original sources and decades long academic works prepared by expert Arabic language scholars like Carmen Barceló and Ana Labarta. You can find the video if you search for it in this very chanel.

No, never, the 3 have same origin the Occitan language, all 3 idioms and algueresian have Occitan and provençal origin are dialects of idioms of Oc in Spain

No, they are the same language. That's like saying Standard Brazilian Portuguese is a different language from Standard European Portuguese

They are regiolects, but same code in 3 variants of Oc in Spain, 4 If you plus algueresian. They are the same code idiom in 3 styles

@@Hrng270 then they are treated the same as the varieties of the Serbo-Croatian, I.e. Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian, which are mush closer to each other than the varieties of Catalan (one same text in the varieties of Serbo-Croatian doesn’t have that many differences like the same text in the varieties of Catalan, at least by the provided text in the video).

​@@gordonpi8674 We agree, we just used different examples you used the example of Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian which are variants of the same coded language. And a well-placed happy example. I use another happy example, and just you notice in analogy the Papiamento, Cape Verdean and the speech of good year, and the same language with only 3 variations. All examples serve to describe the relationship between Balearic and Catalan and between the latter and Valencian. These examples are irrefutable because they are technical and repel lying laymen and ideologues as well.