Catellite Talents, AT LAST! | Battle Cats Game Balance 

Join our discord server! discord.com/invite/BwSQmGwpeD Corrections: Catellite has Weaken Immune not KB Immune Talent priority list should have Defense up higher priority than Attack up (more HP better) If there is anything else I will list them here

I was so happy when I got the notification for this video but then realized that this was just a concept 😢

the wave attack is actually smart, speaking of Catellite's design. It shoots a laser into ground, causing it erupt into the level 1 wave, perfect

Shingong is going to be good. Talents .

The Curse talent specifically in tandem with a weak wave is actually a great idea for Cattelite! Great video Mint 🍬

To be honest, I think dodge may be better choice than target angel because ramen can work well with almost angel enemies while catellite is bullied by mesocosmocyclone and stack of alien enemies

I do like the idea of cursing aliens, as it actually makes a lot of sense to be able to remove some of the abilities that they have. While initially i dismissed the idea of the lvl 1 wave, i do think that it could have some benefit over a simple area attack, as area attack significantly changes the purpose of the unit. Instead, i would make it a lvl 2 mini wave. It wouldn't massively change its damage output, but it increases its range slightly, effectively giving it almost an omnistrike that can reach alien enemies with slightly higher range. I am also partial on giving it slight cooldown reduction, as to be more on par with the more spammable meatshields, and so that the defense doesn't need to change all that much. Instead, I would give it anti relic as a target rather than anti angel, as there are not enough cheap anti relic meatshields that can output a slight amount of damage. (and of course the attack and defense up talents)

Ponos is probably just scared that catellite and shigong will become ramen cat v2

Nothing feels better than another Hydromint video

I actually had the idea of catellite getting curse talent in my head for quite a bit

I think fest talents would be a good idea (fest true forms would be too OP) but no talents for Dasil since she's already too broken

Hell yeah

A small correction: many zombie enemies actually do use debuffs, even common zombies like hippoe and ziggy have debuffs, on top of bosses like daboo with his slow, z-onel with its freeze and lord gravys kb.

I think that having all three talents are a bit too much. It feels weird to go from "Anti-alien meatshield" to "Anti-alien and anti-angel meatshield and curser that can also clear peons" For waves, Catellite is known for its decent damage: 5.5k and spawns every 3.87s at lv30 scaling, around 15% more "DPS" than a singular Manic Macho albeit with a shorter wave. I initially thought that waves would still be fine, but I realized that Catellite can probably juggle Weyland and can one-shot Mr Angels (albeit needing some levels and/or damage talents for 200% Mr Angels), which is probably a bit too much. Perhaps a Lv1 Surge attack that spawns no further than 170 range ahead (because Surge attacks have 125 piercing range) would be better to ensure it doesn't invalidate Weyland. Curse is probably too strong if you look at it from the perspective of it removing what makes Winged Pigge so strong and annoying to fight against... but it removes what makes Winged Pigge so annoying to fight against so I have no complaints.

13:20 Just wanted to point out, you accidentally listed him having knockback immunity instead of weaken immunity. But anyway, great analysis as usual. I love these ideas for catellite talents, and of course would love to see these in game for real. Hopefully ponos takes some inspiration and puts in some these changes (and honestly they should just hire you)

I do have one problem with Catellite's Angel targeting. It's a good idea in concept, but isn't useful as you pitched it to be primarily because of Ramen(I swear I'm not gonna make the "outclassed by Ramen" argument, I mean, I kinda am a little bit, but just stick with me). 1st, that talent will only be useful if purchased along side the curse and wave ability. Ramen will completely outshine Catellite as an angle meatshield and as a damager if purchased by itself, and the curse won't be effective unless you have the wave attack for area attack. But even if you do purchase all of them, there is still one major issue, and you can even kind of see it in the video. Catellite's attack animation is simply too long. Angels are a super strong trait stat-wise because they're balanced around Ramen, and with Cetallite's extremely low range, low speed, and slow attack, he's more likely to die before he can even get a hit off and use the curse and wave you've given him. It's a really good idea in concept, and I love your creativity, but I honestly don't think his angel targeting would be worth it. Instead, I think a much better talent in place of it would be speed up. One of Catellite's biggest problems is his slow speed and low range combination. It's the reason why his strong against ability was only ever seen as a debuffed resist, he can't make use of his attack buff because he can never get a hit in. Increasing his speed would not only allow him to reach the front line faster, but it would also reduce the amount of time between when he enters the enemy's range and when he attacks, making it mush more likely he actually attacks, making better use of his attack buff as well as the other abilities you've given him here. He doesn't need more targets, he works fine as an anti alien, but he could work better which is the primary thing I think his talents should do. These are just some of my thoughts, overall I love the video and I really like your choices for his other talents. Just to clarify, I don't think target angel is a bad idea as a talent, his synergy with Ramen would be good overall, I just don't think it's the best idea. Feel free to disagree and write me a response :) Also, I do believe that giving him 10 extra speed like can can got would be too fast as he'd rush ahead of everyone else and possibly trigger a boss earlier than you want, so only having the talent go to level 5 similar to Catasauras's critical hit up would be better. I think it's an interesting idea and worth you testing since I can't test. If you do do some testing, let me know how it works out. This would change his role to almost a spammable rusher/debuffer and I think that could turn out quite well. But like I said, unless you test it, it's just a concept.

When the shigong talent video comes out, I have a few ideas for them: soulstrike, toxic immunity, and a 25% chance for savage blow

I love the concept

Curse on catelite is crazy ngl, love the thought put on this, really great video but i think wave + curse is a little bit too strong, especially for a unit that target starred aliens, maybe imo i will replace wave for mini wave or shorter curse duration, still, great analisis, u got a new subscriber

Very cool concept

IMO strong meatshields are meant to be better in stages with more traits than resist meatshields because supposedly if they had resist their base hp would be lower

Honestly I thought of miniwave as a talent for Cattelite even before this video came out (also with a friend we gave Shingong talents)

Ponos doing my boy dirty :(, Also I love how you've just created an actual op version of doll cats lmao

One unit I would really like you to do this to would be Merc from the Merc Storia Collab. The idea of an anti-metal bullet train is really cool, but her damage is quite low, which could be fine if she had a high crit chance, but she doesn't. Here are my own talent ideas for her: Guaranteed level 2 mini-wave Increased crit chance to 50% 100% chance to survive a lethal strike

If this was official The sheer amount of people that will instantly claim that these talents are garbage will be really funny. The quotes will very likely be: “Catellite has no reason to have a wave” “Curse is a garbage ability” And the infamous “Outclassed by ramen”

Ragnarok is actually a very good meatshield when boosted which is easy since he is a rare I used him on Red Baron he survives many hits

I wonder how would he perform if instead of curse/target angel he gaines a 15k health barrier

Yeah, I agree with all talents, they wouldn't make this unit op, but usable and good. I would personaly love to use him against winged piegge.

damn missed most of the premire :(

I literally just wondered when catellite will get talents

Catalite talents before gta 6 Edit: well now im sad again, i thought it was actual thing

I have an amazing purpose for catalite. only use cat combo's and catellite for the last growing blue stage.

what about shigong

Imagine catellite get relic target curse immune and surge immune so he can anti relic 4star meat shield 💀💀

Normal talents next?

shigong when this video

How dare you make me think they’d finally make this thing useful

Wushu cat?

They're gonna give it Survive, aren't they?

I mean, wave attack IS effective double damage PLUS bonus area damage. Think about it. WITHOUT talents, it does around 2.8k dps single target. WITH talents, it reaches 5.6k single target, plus bonus to area damage. That's literally just double damage. Personally, I like the concept, but I think a level 1 minisurge or lv2 miniwave would be better. If you dont want effective double damage, then to smol

These concepts look really good but i fear that cattelite womt be usef on angels other than winged pigge stages and ramen will stay used everywhere else

Shigong next??

m. yeah.

Me again, I don’t really know about the angel targeting talent cuz the main enemy you mentioned that catellite could counter (with your custom talents) is winged piggie but then this would completely powercreep any and all stages that feature w. Piggie and having a cat that competes with ramen is a bit weird (not weird though I couldn’t think of another word) like there is one meatshield/tanker for each trait, roe for red, ramen for angel, cone and future for relic, cone and cactus for aku etc… there’s pretty much no secondary unit (that doesn’t get outclassed) I may be wrong but I presume floating would be a better option due to the fact that there’s no good meatshield specialized for floating and this wouldn’t be crazy as you said these talents are for expanding the unit's niches not improving directly other than that the curse and wave abilities are definitely very creative on your part, to be fair you do have bcu to test your catellite and I don’t so you have the upperhand to actually know if catellite works best with angel or floating

angel curse hmmmm papuuuuu :>

I predicted this Cattelite shall be worth again overthrow kinjirou

winged peege?

Sometimes the music is too loud and its hard to hear actual voice

that is just brainwashed axe true form tho

Survive(33%) it need survive even tho it alien meat sheild it got one shot by some alien

Mola luffy

I would really appreciate if Cattelite or Shigong could get Sage Slayer

Shigong: Am I a joke?

Improve cat god plz He is quite disappointing

Please make a talents video for both Shigong (because it suffers the same as Cattelite) and Chibi Rei, because I love her.

I LOVE CHIBI REI!!!!!!!