Couldnt agree more. The Shinkos have done nothing but impress me in every way. Im about to replace my 705 rear which has about 10,000 on it and is squared off but thats mainly due to allot of highway riding Ive done recently. I’ll definitely be putting another one on.
I've been more than happy running 705s on my Wee Strom. 9900 miles on the rear when I changed it and it could have gone a ways yet. Still running the same one on the front at over 16000 miles. Not much to say on riding in the rain since its a rare event here.
Thumbs up for the GOOD choice to record and upload at 60fps...I am so sick of motovloggers and advertisers showcasing riding a motorcycle with shitty 24, 25 and 30fps. If I wanted to watch a slide show, I'd look through an old digital photo album. Cheers, sincerely. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks man, know what you mean, I'm the same with poor sound (and I'm never completely happy with mine). The lowest of the low is the old Go-Pro on the helmet with no external mic = awful wind noise!
Glad you're loving the Shinko's as much as I do. I can remember raving about them to you at sync the planet last year. I've had similar mileage out of an 804/805 combo. I've got a half worn 19" front in my garage you're welcome to it you want to try it out before committing to a new one.
Yes indeed I do mate, you were largely responsible for me choosing them. That's very kind, thank you, but you forget I don't have the 19's like Bro did... still the humble 17 OEMS :)
...my experience with the 705s is very similar to yours though mine were mounted on R1200GS where the extra weight seemed to help them be a bit more planted on wet pavement - since then I've installed Metzeler Karoo Streets and found those massively stickier and more planted on wet pavement. way better! Still, the Shinkos are without doubt the best value to had!
Yeah - interesting how the bigger bike would feel different on the tyres too. Just got a new pari of Shinkos for my upcoming big trip - more than happy with them. Cheers and ride safe mate :)
I never tyre of hearing you talk about rubber. Great honest review mate. I keep thinking of going for something more dirt friendly myself next. Not sure though. You picked a great week to commute to work on the bike! lol
BahahAAAAgh!! lol Yeah it's all too pricey when the best stuff for off road is going to wear out in just one of our typical small tours!! Feckin rain!!!
@@CaptainCrankyMotovlogger you spoiled sunshine riders:)) this kind of floating sunshine are pretty normal for my commute..;)) shaity weather... Great review again sir...
Great review and great video (as always). I ran them on my previous bike (CRF250L that was setup for and used for ADV style riding,not real/technical trails) and liked them for all the reasons that you mentioned. I traded that in on my CB500X before I was able to see how long they'd last though. As my stock Pirelli tires are getting close to where I'll replace them, 705's will definitely be what's going back on it (I use mine for daily commuting, and lite offroading/ADV riding like yours is used for, so they'll be great for my needs), a timely review for me since it will be within the next 500 or so miles ridden when I replace them :)
Thank you kindly :) Yeah exactly - some off road ADV capabilities without having to replace them so often and go round tar twisties like a granny, haha! RSM8.
I'm watching this again in June 2020 because it's time for another new set for my next long trip. My last set of tires was the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR. Big mistake.
I had a bad moment on Shinko 705s on the weekend where they skated across a damp road onto the wrong side (alternative was to drop the bike). I was lucky there was nothing coming the other way. So I have realised that they're not good for wet tar. Extra caution is required.
I've had similar - but not on clean wet roads. We gat a lot of patches of diesel and mud though. I think I just ride in the wet fairly conservatively so find them fine.
Beautiful garden at opening . Nice review of tires . I’ve heard of both but u r the first review I’ve seen on them . I can’t get over that u say u don’t get that much rain ,but I c a creek or river in every video ,& it’s so lush and green looking ,but I no u guys have severe droughts . Tkc must b softer compound ? Seems like u have to watch out for wild life there c a lot of birds fly close by in front of u in ur vids. Great job again nice roads u chose . Thanks .
Yeah we get enough rain here to keep it green, the drought that has been happening inland for several years only got past the mountains and hit us for the last 6 months. Just had a few weeks of rain so it's pretty much broke here now, generall there's enough rainforest in the region to generate rain and keep it green :) I've had a few close calls with birds, roos and wallabies and even a few snakes - those birds though - they just suddenly fly across you!! Thank you mate.
The low cost just makes these a great tire. Be careful with the 805 in sand until you get used to it. It will push a little. They won't give you the mileage of the 705's but they work well everywhere. Not sure about rain though. I look forward to your thoughts on them.
Thanks David - Yeah I've heard a few NC riders love them too - you know of ADV_RYDR_BLOKE? I've ridden with him and he did an excellent review on them too :)
@@CaptainCrankyMotovlogger Yes. I subscribe to his Channel and saw his review. In the wet as well. They seem to have good reviews. Thanks for the vid again.
nice review thanks captain 👍🏼 i bought Pirelli corsa MT60R/RS for my CB500X & i will put them on in next month of june; when they will be dead if i don’t like them i will shurely buy Shinko 705; are they very good when you’re doing twisties on asphalt roads ? cheer from Montreal.
The are brilliant on asphalt twisties, long lasting, very smooth tip-in and even pretty good on wet asphalt. This is the main reason I got them, I wanted an off-road tyre that wasn't going to make the bike boring or dangerous on the twisties and wouldn't wear out quick with all the highway miles I do.
Basically going to Bright, Vic for a big group meet. Going via Wollomombi, Bylong, Adaminaby, Bright, then Melbourne for a few days then over the Yarra Ranges to the coast and alternate between the coast and mountains for about 4 days on the way home!
Sounds like a great adventure. it is beautiful riding through that part of the world. Are you riding solo or heading down with some of your youtube mates?
Hi mate i know this is a bit old but what size 705 are you running both rear and front as these are the tyre i am looking at fitting after all the good reviews i have seen on them .
Hi mate, I can't remember off-hand but the sizes are in the description of all my recent vids - the sizes in the description of this vid are the wider rear, I went later with the narrower rear and consider it a lot better :)
I found these tyres very heavy on Cb500x compared to original, not enough grip on mud and on dirty wet road I found them slippery . But I suppose they are 80/20s .
Yeah that's probably about right. I've not had problems with them on wet roads, but find them great on dirt. Mud or sand they're not good enough, but I do a lot of mileage on the road to get to off road trails so this compromise works for me.
Quite pleased with it - surprised the Bandit doesn't do better, being on road! Before I started so much off road I used to get 18000 rear and 27000 front from PR4's. But then mines a lighter and less powerful bike...
Yeah, unless you're going to be regularly off road you're much better with the PR4's, they still amaze me as to how much grip they have in the wet! (Wifey has them on her F). I did my first year and a half off road on PR4's anyway, just let the pressure down some :)
@@CaptainCrankyMotovlogger That's quite impressive! I followed my SatNav onto a wet mud road the other day (blooming technology!) with Mrs C on the back. I can't say I enjoyed all the sliding and neither did she! :-D I may try the Road 5's next, depending upon how brave I'm feeling about going off-road.
It's a horrible feeling first up, especially mud. It's been a slow learning curve for me to trust that staying loose and keeping momentum up is the key! I have to say it's helped me massively not to react to loss of traction ON road :)
Blimey,, that is some good mileage from them, am shy of 4000 miles on my Triumph and needing a new rear, even my little KTM didn't last 5000 miles and my Guzzi was even less than the Triumph this tyre!
Yes... but you're a hoon (lol) and, more importantly, have more powerful bikes... The most I ever got was 27000K (front) and 18000K (rear) from PR4's, man I loved those tyres in the wet too!
Hello sir, i have a dr250 se . tires i have now its a shinko 705. I have 4.10 x 18. I would like to maybe get 4.60 x18.. Is it a good idea? Ill be doing most of riding in asphalt and little dirt here and there.. Thanks buddy.. By the way, im a new subscriber✌
Hi mate, I have no knowledge of the DR and the wheel sizes are different to the CB500X so I really can't advise on those sizes - sorry! Many thanks mate, hope you enjoy the videos :)
Hey CC, what;s your mileage now? Am at 20k miles now, and just thinking about my next set of tyres. First was the standard Scorpions, currently the PR4s, and can't fault either really, although my rear PR4 is starting to square off. All my riding is on-road though, mostly commuting
Hi buddy! Just sitting at 84000Km (52194 miles), I found my PR4 rears lasted 18000 (11184 miles) and the fronts lasted 27000Km (16777 miles). This was conservative, legally more left on them but I like to have them in good condition. The squared off rear could have you undone on a slippery bend so best to err on the cautious side :) RSM8.
CaptainCranky Should have seen the squareness of my Scorpions lol. Separately, have you had any issues with persistent brake binding and with front and rear bearings? Pain in the arse for me, but aside from that, all good barring rust on the extra accessory elements (centre stand, mirror storks and engine guard)
I've not had one thing go wrong with the bike, unless I broke it! Some tiny bits of rust on the forks, but fighting it off with the wet aluminium foil trick (it converts iron oxide to aluminium oxide then just wipes off - really cool!).
I have this tire on my DRZ 400S that I have made into a more capable light weight ADV tourer. This tire has greatly improved my road confidence and still tackles fire roads with predictable control, I do air them down a bit as needed and run heavy duty Michelin tubes. I'm sure what would be better than these, I would like a bit more grip in corners with better wet traction and still be as capable off road. Any other suggestions to try next for me? Cost isn't a big issue if I can find a even better performer. I am at 1200miles only right now on these 705's but I wont run them past 5 k miles.
Moto Trek recently did a "best ADV bike tyre" video on his channel - can't remember hat they were but will probably try them next - go check him out :)
Hi captain , i know this is a fairly old video but do you still think they are good ? the reason i am asking is the tyres on mine are starting to get close to the wear limiters and was thinking about getting re shod with these as i have seen some very good reports , ive only been out twice so far but this bike is great so light and nimble in traffic ,the tyres are the original but still grip pretty well in fact went round one corner and thought im gonna lose this but nope held on thankfully anyway whats your opinion now .
Hi mate, yes I still think they are very good, although I now run the thinner rear siz and like it even more. I occasionally wish I had something more off-road capable (mud, sand etc.) but I know I would lose some performance on road and also a fair bit of longevity. BTW - if you aren't doing ANY off road at all - the Michelin Pilot Road 4s or 5s are without a doubt the best tyres, in fact I even did my first year or so off road on them!). The Shinkos are a compromise in so much as, with only a 17' front, there's not much available. If I had a 19" front I would go with Mitas E07. I did see this awesome review of most adventure tyres where the Shinkos came out very well: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gjtgLz1LjnE.html
@@CaptainCrankyMotovlogger Hi mate is that th 120 rear i was looking at them the other night have a place just down the road that can fit them for me and just take the wheels down
Not quite - as per in the description: Shinko 705 tyres 170 60 R17* 120 70 R17 ****October 2019 changed rear to 150 60 R17**** Yep- save some money by getting the wheels off yourself :)
It's a Staintune, I didn't buy it, as it was given to me. The story of it is here, including a compare with stock pipe vs wife's hairdryer!! IMO the best pipe I've heard on a Honda 500 is the arrow on my wife's CB500F :) most other pipes make it sound like a Ninja 250 ;-) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hYMYNpW4qo0.html
I just changed my tired I got about 6500 miles on it. And the tires when balled but that the stock honda tires. The back still had alot of life but the front was straight up balled. I'm almost got 7000 on my bike but been trying figure out what tires would be good for my next ones.
Did you have any issues with fitment around the chain with the 170/60-17" rear? I'm about to order up a set (within the next couple days or so) at my trusty local shop, was going to go with the 170, they said (guestimating by looking at the bike with it's stock 160/60-17" tire on it) they'd recomment I go with the 155...your thoughts now after having some miles on them would be greatly appreciated, my friend B)
There are no problems at all with the chain or anything else in terms of fitment and rubbing on anything etc. It would be down to personal preference. I like the way the wider tyre rolls into a lean on the road and it still seems to be fine off road. I have seen comments from more experienced off roaders that the thinner tyre is better off road, but never having tried one myself I can't confirm that :) Cheers mate.
@@SmallADVentures1973 I just found an excellent video answering your question better than I could. I might even try these tytes next, or at least try the thinner Shinkos... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YnEcI3F_pqE.html
Sure - I used to drop a lot (to 24/26) but the risk of rim damage is high. Road pressures are 32/34, I tend to run the tyres 28/30 and let this do for on or off road. The thick walls on the Shinko are fine with that.
@@CaptainCrankyMotovlogger thanks, the honda specs of 36/42 seem too high on dirt. But the standard tyres aren't great either. The shinkos seem a good compromise. Thanks for the help.
Are you running 170 or 150 on the rear. I wore through a 170 on my NC but have now gone to a 150 as I can use all of the tyre. For me, The 170 on the 160 rim squashes the tyre in and results in less contact patch in the middle and unusable chicken strips on the sides.
I didn’t have a problem with the feel of the 170 but I think I got less kms out of it because of the smaller centre contact patch. With the 150 I’m getting wear more evenly across the whole tyre. I’m actually running a Metzler Tourance (the original model not the exp or next) of 150 on the rear now (and they are about the same price), and the std size 705 on the front. I have used the Tourance for many years on my GS and liked its grip and wear. It isn’t as as off road as the 705 but still not bad. I will be sticking with this combination in the future as I won’t be doing anything any more extreme than gravel roads on the NC in future.
Honda NC750X Stuff interesting. I would have thought the wider tire would give you a larger grip area. Im running the 170 rear and I have about 7mm chicken strip on the edge. I do recall on the old stock Dunlop’s there was no chicken strip and the tyre did pretty much ware evenly. Its a shame they dont make a 160 for the rear.
I was thinking about this too - I'm running the 150. It's in need of replacement & I do wonder what the differences are between the 150 & 170 in practice. Definitely concur with the Captain's good review - the Shinkos have been great with a wide range of surfaces & conditions for me.
ADV-Rydr-Bloke - get a piece of paper and bend it. The more you squeeze it together to sharper the curve. This is what happens when you squeeze a 170 on a 160 rim. It increases the curve and therefore reduces to centre contact patch.
That info was included in the video. From memory roughly 20K front 12K rear, not sure I'm remembering that right though, I went to my records to get the info (which I included in the video) at the time of editing.
