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Celestion Creamback H75 vs Vintage 30 - Bogner Shiva 

Nick Pierro
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Celestion Creamback H75 vs Vintage 30 Made in UK. Identical Bogner cabs.
Bogner Shiva EL34 Head
Gibson Les Paul w/ Manlius Fat Diane PAF. Alnico 4, 8.8K
Pierro Tele w/ Manlius Broadcaster Bridge pickup. Alnico III

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@duck2587
@duck2587 7 лет назад
For the high gain, V30's. Everything else, the creamback H 75
@danyeo
@danyeo 6 лет назад
Gotta admit, those Creambacks sounds killer. V30's sound like I'd get a headache after a few minutes.
@starblaster77
@starblaster77 8 лет назад
Love the both. I have a 2x12 of the different cream backs and I love the. I played my 4x12 of vintage 30s after and was not that blown away. Yet in the clips I like the v30's. Thanks for the demo.
@JayRoc17
@JayRoc17 Год назад
Geat comparison. To my ears in this clip preferred the Creambacks with more clarity and definition while the V30s sounded more nasally.
@brianadams8025
@brianadams8025 9 лет назад
Both sound good in a different way but to me the V30's are crisper and clearer. They seem to breathe better. But it's all in what type of music you prefer. I would say Creamback's for heavier stuff and V30's for classic rock to country. Good video though!! Could really here the difference.
@nicholastotoro7721
@nicholastotoro7721 9 лет назад
I think I've heard enough in this video to make me consider swapping one of the V30's in my Bogner OS 2x12 with a Creamback and hearing what it does.
@MRay-zj4ro
@MRay-zj4ro 5 лет назад
Did you ever make that swap, Nicholas? How did it turn out? I've heard the g12h makes a good compliment as well..
@nicholastotoro7721
@nicholastotoro7721 5 лет назад
M. Ray Unfortunately, no LOL! I still am thinking about it, though. Sometimes I contemplate trying an H30 instead, just to see. Edit: Contemplating an M65 Creamback like Reinhold puts in the Helios 2x12, which seems to basically be the same other than swapping one V30 for an M65... 😂
@firststep7750
@firststep7750 4 года назад
The two speakers together would sound unreal.
@Ty1350
@Ty1350 4 года назад
I can confirm it sounds amazing out of my Traynor except I have an m60 instead of an h75
@stefjudd
@stefjudd 9 лет назад
Perfect comparison video, thank you! Exactly what I needed to hear as I'm deciding between these speaker for my Shiva... Had V30 before with the Shiva and love them but gonna try the Creambacks for a change! Cheers!
@BadCat1990
@BadCat1990 3 года назад
I much prefer the creambacks. Seems like the older I get the less I like V30’s.
@bradcarter6286
@bradcarter6286 8 лет назад
I love them both and the best part is the both pair great with greenbacks. I have a 4x12 with 2 greenbacks and 2 g12h creambacks as well as a 4x12 cab with 2 greenbacks and 2 vintage 30s. The greenbacks offer 'brown sound' as we all know. the vintage 30s are at their best playing vintage or clone plexi heads. the h75 creambacks offer a touch deeper tone much like AiC's facelift album and I'm sure Cantrell used greenbacks then, but the tones I get from my creambacks remind me of facelift. just a deeper darker greenback
@drock1383
@drock1383 7 лет назад
v30s fo metal, creambacks for classic crunch. i have two of both in x in a port city os 4x12. i love it cause i get that hint of recto tone with the v30s mixed with a lil marshall upper end from the creambacks. kinda different sound that i have to get used to. but very balanced none of the less. v30s are a little colder soundinf while the creambacks have that mid range bark. give or take, they both have their ow sound but like them both.
@ricardadn
@ricardadn Год назад
Creambsck, sempre!
@montyderhak8371
@montyderhak8371 3 года назад
nice demo....I do suppose a person could eq the amp for the different speakers though
@mmatthewias280
@mmatthewias280 Год назад
I'm confused by how much I like the H75 Creamback vs how much I dislike the M65 Creamback. They are two completely different sounding speakers IMO. Rarely do I ever hear a Vintage 30 that I like in anything - they're just so piercing and up the middle IMO.
@NickPierro
@NickPierro Год назад
I felt the same way. The M65 sounded great in clips, and even at home. But live, I preferred the larger magnet. It just felt firmer on the bottom end. As far as V30s, I've learned that they're not all created equal. The older UK, vs newer chinese, vs newer UK MESA V30s, are all pretty different sounding. I've found that the Mesa V30s are hands down the best of the bunch, for my style.
@NickPierro
@NickPierro Год назад
Also - if you haven't tried a Scumback J75, do yourself a favor and do it. They really do strike a perfect balance between the M and H vibe.
@dextter99
@dextter99 7 лет назад
Both together in a 212 cab would be amazing wall of sound. I like the sound of the cream back better for clean, crunch and medium gain. I liked the high gain better in the V30's
@buddybeetle
@buddybeetle 7 лет назад
dextter99 I think you got that just right. I have both and agree completely.
@crispybell51
@crispybell51 2 года назад
switched out the stock shiva 1x12 combo cl80 for a v30, and loved it at first, but now to me its almost too much mids and hard to control volume, so gonna try a creamback g12m-65 that I have in a marshall 1936 style cab that i hardly use
@draelyc
@draelyc 5 лет назад
I’ve listened to this clip dozens of times - very helpful comparison! By chance, have you also compared either of these speakers against the CL80 that comes stock in the Shiva combos & 1x12 Shiva cabs?
@MattHazeMusic
@MattHazeMusic 9 лет назад
Got Creambacks with my Bogner- SOOOOO much better than V30 it's not even close imo. But I don't want anyone to know that, cause my rig will sound better than yours haha.
@JAFOpty
@JAFOpty 8 лет назад
are you using the M or the H?
@Bognerman14
@Bognerman14 8 лет назад
Nice Nick. replacing my V30s with H75s. wattage between these is hardly noticeable so an M65 would not be a better comparison. the biggest difference would be db rating and these two speakers are much closer in that respect and with volume. the M65 is a lower db and quieter.
@These_go_to_eleven_1959
@These_go_to_eleven_1959 8 лет назад
+Rich Veeck the M65's are too dark, the H75 smokes them. I have the 65M's and i hate them! cant wait to get the H75's
@Bognerman14
@Bognerman14 8 лет назад
+Pc Gamer 5150 ....nah, it depends on the amp. I have the M65s and don't find them dark at all. one cab with Lynchbacks, one with Creamback M65s and one with H75s. I am sick of high db, modern speakers. that is one reason I may end up replacing the H75s as well
@beljakovinc
@beljakovinc 7 лет назад
V30 in this video,better allaround and presence... I have 20th XTC and 2x12OS with Golds (had V30 in it, but they didn't work for me). I also have 4x12 with Scumbacks (BM75/J75 mix) and they sound sweet. I had V30 in 4x12 and it sounded sweet also! V30 are not that bad, it just sound spiky by itself, but when put in the mix, it cut through....for just one guitar in a band, Creambacks would be great, but for lead guitar V30 I suppose...and it depends from the amp you are using it with cabinet...
@MrGlasstech
@MrGlasstech 3 года назад
Has anyone combined the speakers and played them together?
@lianasmith4405
@lianasmith4405 6 лет назад
Imo the v30 really punches through. Sounds better
@jordandedomusic
@jordandedomusic 8 лет назад
Nick - is this the green chassis version of the Shiva? Really sounds great! I dig the H75
@michaelmcwilliams4705
@michaelmcwilliams4705 8 лет назад
What do they sound like together? Can you put out another video using both cabs? I have a Orange 4x12 with V30s that I'm thinking swapping out 2 of them for the 2 of the Creamback 75s.
@duck2587
@duck2587 7 лет назад
DO IT!. I had an old 2x12 cab that I put the V30 in and cream back H75 and is sick! What a great combo.
@domagojzagorac6186
@domagojzagorac6186 6 лет назад
Sound like heaven. I have my shiva with v30 and creamback.
@user-fb6ki5ro7i
@user-fb6ki5ro7i 3 года назад
@Oddities of Morocco Creamback 75 and V30 is a killer combo ! Although right now I have a Portcity OS 212 with WGS Veteran 30 and it sounds incredible !
@guitartricky
@guitartricky 7 лет назад
The V30s sound much more balanced. The creams sound like all mids and nothing else. Almost like the telephone sound eq effect.
@danyeo
@danyeo 4 года назад
Exact opposite from what I’m hearing.
@sunnyboner676
@sunnyboner676 4 года назад
I’m glad I got the one with the V30. If I want the Creamback tone, all I have to do is put a blanket over the cabinet, and voila, 2 cabs in one lol!
@finalredemption3660
@finalredemption3660 7 лет назад
Just play with both speakers in a band practice... you will realize they can only hear you in the mix when your playing with the V30s.
@cyruskeshtkar8004
@cyruskeshtkar8004 6 лет назад
Final Redemption more mids in the v30?
@danyeo
@danyeo 4 года назад
BS
@oscarvestee
@oscarvestee 5 лет назад
Creambacks!
@SHEMAMAN
@SHEMAMAN 7 лет назад
V30, please.
@lukasbelinski1268
@lukasbelinski1268 5 лет назад
vintage 30s
@These_go_to_eleven_1959
@These_go_to_eleven_1959 8 лет назад
H75 easily. with another amp??? not sure. all changes.
@theraditz
@theraditz 7 лет назад
I prefer the creambacks on this video
@henriquelhrf
@henriquelhrf 7 лет назад
what s your personal choice?
@MrBingping
@MrBingping 9 лет назад
Cream back all the way. Much richer and smoother
@709AJ
@709AJ 7 лет назад
V30 for me
@adicide9070
@adicide9070 5 лет назад
wonder how come v30s sound like shit
@EdBenji
@EdBenji 11 месяцев назад
That Bogner amp sound crappy!
@demonslayer7522
@demonslayer7522 8 лет назад
just sounds fair at best on all of them.. not that great of an amp...
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