Celestion G12M Greenback vs 21 other speakers shootout

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Celestion G12M Greenback vs 21 other speakers shootout, plus Mystery Speaker
The Celestion G12M Greenback is one of the biggest selling speakers out there. Starting life in the early sixties it is a speaker that really is the voice of rock and one of the true original classic guitar speakers.. In this video we blend the classic ersies greenback with 21 one other speakers, then set them against each other in a speaker shootout.
The speakers are Celestion Alnico Blue, Vintage 30, Century Vintage, G12-65 (Heritage not classic series), Alnico Cream, V type, H heritage 55Hz, Classic Lead 80, Alnico Gold, H heritage 75Hz, H creamback 75, G12H Redback, M creamback 65, H anniversary, M heritage, G12T-75, Neo Creamback, Alnico Ruby, Mystery Speaker, A Type, WGS Invader 50
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Gear list:
Paul Reed Smith Custom 22
Marshall JMP 2203
Tul G12
Zilla Fatbaby 1x12
Two Notes Reload

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12 сен 2024

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@cobratex7 2 года назад

Greenback mixed with the G1230H Anniversary was so crisp and clean. Also liked the Creamback combo.

@brightfalls6788 3 года назад

Mixed V30. 0:23 Anniversary. 1:49 M Heritage. 1:55 Heritage 55. 0:58 Heritage 75. 1:19 75 Cream. 1:27 65 Cream. 1:42 Alone V30. 5:31 Anniversary. 7:55 M Green. 5:13 M Heritage. 8:07 Heritage 55. 6:31 Heritage 75. 7:06 75 Cream. 7:19 65 Cream. 7:43

@marcellpethomusic Год назад

thanks

@MrKnisterable Месяц назад

6:19 vtype

@Unusednickname_1970 3 года назад

Great comparison. Confirms why I like the G12M so much. It’s got great upper mid bark and presence without the fizz.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Thanks David, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@alanst.4417 3 года назад

I love the alnico blue here, too. What a sound! The H creamback seems very nice as well IMO.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Yeah, the alnico blue and classic series M is possibly my favourite mix, or at least one of them.

@flavioschifano1662 3 года назад

the G12H Heritage (55Hz) is for me the best choice alone and paired with the G12 M 25 watts

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

That is probably my favourite speaker, I love it. Thanks for watching.

@PaulGrieselhuber 3 года назад

These are just about perfect videos for the purpose, but I would just align the riff length with the cuts for easier comparison. Chart is great too.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Thanks for watching, we tried to look at different lengths of riff, we ended up trying to go around four bars.

@MrBluzhound Год назад

Thank you - great comparison series! Likes the H creamback, the m 55hz cone and the Ruby alnico…truth is, if you plugged into any of these at a jam you’d likely not be worried the speaker cab was going to hold you back too much!

@ZillaCabs Год назад

Thanks for watching.

@BramEngelenMusic 3 года назад

Love the G12M + Century Vintage combination at 0:30 a lot..would cut right through any mix, has more than enough balls/in-your-face and no annoying frequencies to me 🤘

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Great combo there, but quire rare. We've only done that once or twice before. I'm glad you like it.

@whoisthenext1 3 года назад

Awesome and useful speaker comparing, as usual ! My confirmation about my personal falling in love with G12-65 Heritage. It's same G12T-75/G1280/Classic Lead sound-family but a bit but still important less mid-range in respect to all of them. Fantastic sonic tool !

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful. It's taken me a good while but I've fallen in love with the G12-65 too, it is such a great speaker. Thanks for watching.

@tete1805 3 года назад

Awesome! As usual, a lot of information to process. Loved it with the Hs and the Cream M. The Neo Cream is definitely interesting too.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Excellent,thanks for watching mate.

@ace-rob71 3 года назад

the G12M 25w is the best! even compared with the V30 no way. The V-Type, G12H-75 and G12M-65 are preatty close but a little darker.. the Classic G12M is perfect to my hears...

@yoashuain1 2 года назад

Green backs are a great blending speaker. They very clean all by themselfs. Nice video!

@massimozirilli3282 2 года назад

I needed this video!!! Thanks!!! I was thinking to put 2 gold or ruby alnicos in my straight 412 with greenbacks. The goal was to achieve a little bit more mid punch and less high sizzle with my vintage modern. Now, I think with gold alnicos they works perfectlty!!! Maybe with hours of playing they will get also a bit warmer. Thanks

@padgreen 3 года назад

Really interesting, I think this showed that the Greenback, like the comparison last week with the Vintage 30, pairs pretty well with most other speakers. As for which ones I preferred, kinda difficult with some much sonic info, but I think I preferred the pairings with the more similar speakers, so G12-65, both H Heritages, M Heritage, etc. That WGS Invader sounds good too. As for the mystery speakers, I've no idea what that is! Cheers.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

I can't wait to say what the speaker is! I agree, I do like mixing a greenback with another similar speaker, I think they tame the H's a little too, put a bit less emphasis on the high end those speakers can bring.

@ManuelAmmon 3 года назад

Best speaker comparison videos on RU-vid....

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Thanks, that's really kind of you.

@michaelogden5093 Год назад

Hey, this was a really good comparison. I didn't hear anything I liked more than the good 'ole Greeny. I didn't pay much attention to the blended portion of the comparison. Bedroom player here.

@ZillaCabs Год назад

Thanks mate. You can't really go wrong with a greenback, its a great speaker

@wakjob961 3 года назад

Now I know why the G12-65 is the enjoyed standard with bright JCM 800's. That said...this stuff will drive you nuts after a while...decisions...decisions!

@curtvogue5720 Год назад

I actually have the Greenback paired with a 65 Creamback and... fortunately... it's the combo I like best in this video!

@GaryDGuitar 3 месяца назад

My cab is loaded with a greenback and G12H30 Anniversay mix. Sounds fantastic.

@resperat 2 года назад

5:12 - Greenback 5:18 - Blue 5:30 - V30 5:42 - Century Vintage 5:54 - G12-65 6:06 - Cream Alnico 6:18 - G12 V Type 6:30 - G12H Heritage 55hz 6:42 - Classic Lead 80 6:54 - Gold 7:06 - G12h Heritage 75hz 7:18 - G12H Creamback 7:30 - G12H Recback 7:42 - G12M Creamback 7:54 - G12h Anniversary 8:06 - G12M Heritage 8:18 - G12 T75 8:30 - Neo Creamback 8:42 - Ruby

@OperationEndGame 3 года назад

Greenie + Blue = perfect pair to my ears… plenty bright that will cut to the band mix.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

yeah I think that's probably my favourite too... not massively practical sometimes with a 30 watt limit, but still love it... and that is still quite loud. Thanks for watching.

@rockinroy 2 года назад

I would love to hear the heritage 75hz 30 watt combined with the heritage 55hz 30 watt.

@AlexanderSchwend 2 месяца назад

1:47 G12H 30th anniversary 0:50 V-Type

@zwoelf160 3 года назад

great comparisons. thanks for that. good work

@thejailbirdsband 3 года назад

Wicked video guys, SOOOOO helpful!

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@thejailbirdsband 3 года назад

@@ZillaCabs Now I know for sure that I want a G12H30 and a V30 in my cab with both of these wicked vids =) You guys rock!!

@CrazyTubeCircuits 3 года назад

Magnificent! Thank you guys! 10000% Infotainment

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@flavionovaes363 3 года назад

Excellent demonstration! I would like to answer an old question about speaker combinations. I'm very interested in the combination of the Greenback and G12H30... But I hear a lot of comments that the low sensitivity of the greenback makes the g12H30 Dominate the sound... does this proceed? or do they combine well?? I've even seen this combination in a Bogner speaker but I'm still in doubt. I appreciate any comments.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Hi Flavio, thanks for that. Technically you wouldn't to do it, not on paper anyway... but...... things on paper don;t always translate too well to guitar. In reality its not that big a problem as long as you are aware of it. In a closed back cab the effect seems to lessen, the H30 will reinforce the M a little. Matchless do it too, tonally it sounds great so I wouldn;t worry about it too much. In short, it is something to be aware of people on the internet do seem to blow things out of proportion a little.

@lucianobranchese4344 3 года назад

Awesome guys! Thanks. A question, do you do the process of break in the speakers? And a humble request, can you do the exact same video with the Celestion G12H30 Anniversary? I tend to prefer him over all others because the mids (1 khz), to me sound more close, open and have more bright than V30 or G12M25, that sound a bit muffled for me. Whats the speaker that sound more even in the midrange for you? Also the charts are great. Thanks again. Cheers

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

That is a really good question..... we went for speakers straight out of the box, which again isn't very fair but it is how you will hear gear in a music shop. Also it is hard, with so many speakers to give them the same amount of time to break in, and they also break in at different rates. Speakers will soften up with age... we're going to do a video on that soon. We will be doing videos for all those speakers... plus we have clean, dirty, rock (which this video is), heavy rock/lead and metal..... so there are a fair few videos to put out ;)

@jkf9167 3 года назад

Most of them sounded great with the Greenback. The G12T-75, which I usually like, sounded a bit hollow. The Ruby sounded a bit constipated. The Vintage 30s were a bit much. But aside from that, it played well with others. Any problems related to the fact that it's less efficient than most of the companion speakers?

@RG-yz8ov 3 года назад

I've paired a blue with a g12m 25 in a 2x 12 closed back in series with the blue on the bottom. I really can't hear any difference in how loud they are, thought it would be bigger. In fact i mainly hear the greenback but haven't played them at loud levels as of yet and still bracking in.

@jndk6000 3 года назад

Thank you! Great comparison!

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@MatthewTomich 2 года назад

Doing the lord's work.

@ZillaCabs 2 года назад

Thanks, that's very kid of you.

@ehoc42 2 года назад

a low gain marshall tone is always gonna make a Greenback sound great, it's THE sound. I would love to hear a high gain comparison of these

@ehoc42 2 месяца назад

@@Baubles1337low to mid gain. Classic rock rather than metal

@jrrustad 3 года назад

great video! I love seeing the power spectrum of each speaker. Sorry for my ignorance- I imagine these could be thought, most directly, of as a measure of the amplitude response at some fixed point on the speaker cone? But I have no idea how the actual measurement is done. The main thing I'm wondering about is how much uncertainty there is in the measurement and whether it would be interesting to subtract one power spectrum from another to highlight the differences?

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

I will be honest, in this situation I haven't used that setup, it is Joe that does it, it is a piece of software that analyses it. It is mostly showing the frequency response of the whole system rather than just the speaker so isn't massively useful, we just put it in there to illustrate a little. The physicist in me has a few questions about the frequency response being taken using a sweep of frequencies rather than a broadband pulse, but again I'll be honest and say I haven't looked in to it all that much, better to use your ears for this kind of stuff. Great question by the way.

@mikeindel 3 года назад

For reference id love to hear just the green back between each combo

@Myself6M 10 месяцев назад

5:31 6:18 6:31 7:07 7:19 8:31 8:48

@johnp.3225 2 месяца назад

How did you use a 100w head with less than 100w speaker(s) in a 1x12 cab?

@ZillaCabs Месяц назад

Good question and one of the first to ask... we ran the amp pretty low, somewhere around 10 watts, both the amp and speaker should be working well in that region. Thanks for watching.

@jsbobek 2 года назад

Ohms don’t match at 2:38. Great comparison…I like the G12 H Heritage (55 hz). Question, what would come closest to the pre-Rola Greenback?

@ZillaCabs 2 года назад

Those photos are just comparison photos, we used all the same impedance speakers for the recording. The pre-rola M greenback? Well the heritage M is nice but that isn;t amde any more I don;t think.

@-LSTR- Год назад

Im looking for a 12" to complement a 10" Greenback in a vertical 2x10/12, this video gives me a better guess

@carlosg4537 2 года назад

0:22 - V30 mix 2:02 - G12t mix 5:12 - greenback only

@DanielAraujoNazar Год назад

has the mystery speaker ever been revealed?

@ZillaCabs Год назад

No but just for you its the hempback ;)

@pierreboyer3895 2 года назад

Wild mystery speaker

@jalaskabtu 3 года назад

Thanksssssssssss

@jameslevittgold 3 года назад

The Mystery Speaker What is it?

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

We're not allowed to say just yet but will let you know soon enough.

@lordkrb 3 года назад

May be the GB with the new hemp cone, I guess?

@piercem26 2 года назад

1:05 2:02 6:43 8:19

@criot1124 3 года назад

This is the best speaker info, on how do celestion sound if mix. I always wanted to know how a celestion Green back and a cream would sound if mixed up and well here we have it. A 30watt G12H 75hz with that Cream back Neo, was sex to my ears and thanks to this wonder full people i know where i need to head from here, i was kinda tired of the nothing but V30 need a change. Well worth like and subscribe.

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

Excellent, thanks for that, that is very kind of you.

@Fnnggjji Год назад

6:30 7:43 7:54

@dominikpohli2381 3 года назад

can you help me how much watt powerating has a 2x12 mixing g12m with g12t75

@RG-yz8ov 3 года назад

I go 2 x the lowest wattage speaker to be safe but not sure if that's what most do

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

R G is right, you work from the weakest speaker so in this case a 25 watt speaker mixed with a 75 watt speaker is going to give you a 50 watt cab.

@craigfrancis5062 2 года назад

6:12 6:18 6:33 6:49

@emanoelraiffnobrega7419 3 года назад

Alnico blue 5:18 Vinage 30 5:30 Alnico gold 6:54 Creamback G12M 65 7:43 G12H 70th anniversary 7:54 Alnico ruby 8:42

@DiosDragon1111 2 года назад

7:48

@DiosDragon1111 2 года назад

8:03

@diwattos Год назад

0:58 1:20

@markkosa1 3 года назад

Always wanted to like Greenbacks, have owned many and just sold my last UK made one on Ebay good riddance! Thin and buzzy in every amp and cab I have used them in far better speakers out there..

@diwattos Год назад

2:10

@diwattos Год назад

0:29

@marekcizler9618 3 года назад

I repeat again, but great again..Just Joe please don't talk so fast .... :-)

@ZillaCabs 3 года назад

A lot of comments are that we shouldn't talk as much so we'll take that as a compliment ;) Thanks as always for watching Marek.

@thephoenixcycle8854 2 года назад

I have to except the fact that you are not trying to help the metal players out there. None of your videos offer heavy riffs and heavily distorted tones. It's a shame because you offer so many speakers that I want to hear to make my heavy metal tone the best it can be. Oh well.

@watchingthecrazyworld7761 Год назад

I have an EVH 212ST. Its loaded with the Anniversary speakers. If I wanted to play hard rock and metal, could you tell me what might be a great speaker to mix with the Anniversary?