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Changing the Auxiliary Battery for your LR4 Start-Stop System 

Witty 924
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My Land Rover Discovery 4 has the usual failed auxiliary battery for the start-stop system.
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Witty
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@malcolmdeeley7265
@malcolmdeeley7265 3 месяца назад
Great video, it's been ages since I did any kind of work on a car and the video gave me the confidence to proceed. All fixed!
@Witty924
@Witty924 3 месяца назад
Hey Malcolm, thanks for the comment and support. Great to hear it helped you out. 👍
@jdloquax
@jdloquax Год назад
Brilliant! Had the eco light issue and using your instructions have managed to fix it. Great stuff 👏 👍
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Thanks for the support and comment and Jason, and great to hear that the video helped out 👍
@jameswaters5133
@jameswaters5133 Год назад
Really useful video - thank you. Just changed mine today, all working fine now.
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Thanks for the comment and support James, great to hear it helped you out too. 👍
@Dieter.Reuter
@Dieter.Reuter Год назад
Right in time I did found your video, I have the same issue on my 2016 D4 Landmark. Replacement battery is ordered now. Thanks for sharing all those details! 😎👍
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi Dieter thanks for the comment, glad it helped out, let me know if all goes well 🤞👍
@Dieter.Reuter
@Dieter.Reuter Год назад
@@Witty924 just exchanged the aux battery today (last one was from Feb'20). On a LHD D4 (German model) it's way easier to do - no need to unscrew the fuse, takes 10mins only, just need a 10mm nut with extension. ECO warning light is off and best thing now, all strange errors are gone after clearing it! 🤪 Reminder: keep the batteries of your LR always charged and renew them regularly (main 5y, aux 2.5y), then most of your electronic issues will be gone! 🤓
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
@@Dieter.Reuter great to hear all went well and your LR is back fighting fit. Thanks for sharing 👍
@MHWaseem
@MHWaseem 2 года назад
Super useful 👌
@jacquelynpetersen5583
@jacquelynpetersen5583 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for doing this this is really useful and clear on how to remove it. Looks simple. Wish me luck! :)
@Witty924
@Witty924 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment and support Jacque, I hope it goes smoothly for you too 🤞
@kumbirayinyabereka5190
@kumbirayinyabereka5190 Год назад
Excellent video. 👌👍Thanks for sharing. My car's ECO light has also come on as well. So I guess I need to change mine too.
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Good luck Kum with the change, it's an easy job and well worth doing 👍
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 Год назад
Who knew...the ECO button is a "feature" that supposedly "saves gas"!?? It shuts the car off when it's at idle... like at a stop light. You can either take your foot off the brake and it'll auto start... OR ...TURN OFF the ECO button and NOT WORRY about it! WHAT DIPSH*T thought of this?
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 Год назад
Another video gave a good tip for removing the 10mm bolt... use a small piece of double sided tape in the socket and the nut won't fall out when removing or reinstalling it!!
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Great tip! you would have seen me use an extendable magnetic pen which did the trick nicely. Always a must-have when working on more modern engines and tight spaces 👍
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 Год назад
@@Witty924 On a GOOD NOTE LOL ... we discovered that my wife's LR4 "dying" was actually a "feature"!?? The "ECO" button stops the engine when you are at idle. Apparently you simply take your foot off the brake and it will self start! OR..DISENGAGE the ECO button and DRIVE LIKE A NORMAL PERSON!??? LOL
@LesFletcher-gc7wb
@LesFletcher-gc7wb 3 месяца назад
Excellent video and clear instruction. On install 'stop/start' warning light disappeared. But the Auxiliary battery is still not working. I have currently only done short journeys since installed. Could this be the problem.
@Witty924
@Witty924 3 месяца назад
Hi Les, thanks for the comment and support. What model year is your LR4? Once a new battery has been installed the light should go out and stay out. Was your start stop working correctly before the new battery was installed? The LR4 start stop is not the best admittedly and even with a good battery can be temperamental. It won't hurt doing a few miles to double check but it maybe something more than the battery at fault. Let me know how you get on 🤞
@chrishill5166
@chrishill5166 Год назад
Good tutorial. For information the pipe from the battery is a gas pipe. If it gasses under the bonnet it can lead to corrosion.
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Thanks Chris for the comment and support. Great advice too 👍
@davidhall2298
@davidhall2298 5 месяцев назад
Really useful. Thanks
@Witty924
@Witty924 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment and support David. Great to hear the video helps. 👍
@PedroDeSwift
@PedroDeSwift Год назад
BRILLIANT - Thankyou from Australia. What would have helped is to read out the OEM battery model so that an exact replacement could be made in advance - AND not so important: The hint regarding the 4 sided clip cover be at the start of your excellent AV as that would save people breaking it then discovering the caution .... assuming such people follow instructions 'by numbers' instead of watching fully FIRST (which of course is what I did)
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Thanks for the comment and support Peter. Great points you make 👍
@PedroDeSwift
@PedroDeSwift Год назад
@@Witty924 Interesting re the 2013 Australian Version of Disco4 HSE that we own - it doesn't seem to have a second battery nor the start/stop feature (thank god). Not in the rear, not in the engine bay, and doesn't start/stop anyway. This might help: Returning from NZ last monday night, the main battery (the only battery it seems) was completely dead, ie: 2v. What fun waiting for roadside assist after a long day and a 2 hr drive home. Apparently it is well known that these battery types just die, and in smaller vehicles, it is common for them to be waiting at the red lights, and when green ... NOTHING. That quick! Rear enders in that situation are now common. I noticed some months beforehand assorted warning symbols appear on the screen ( incl an irregular 'low battery must start') that made no sense. When departing for NZ in the drizzle (before battery death) the wipers entered 'spastic mode' and switched to high speed mode, and behaving oddly. I suggest that anybody seeing those warnings, that they do NOT switch off the engine and immediately get the main battery replaced ($500ish here) and whilst at it replace the second battery if fitted. Apparently OEM lasts @ 7 to 8 years (depends) and after market less (to be discovered!) but a rule of thumb is to replace the battery(ies) no more than every 4 years. I wonder why in todays world that LandRover can't code in a simple legible for normal people warning that battery death is imminent. Failing that - install battery type that doesn't suddenly die, as that is damned dangerous for all road users let alone inconvenient. Rockets can be sent to intercept asteroids, but 'we' can't even get this basic right.
@jellekrijnders2012
@jellekrijnders2012 Год назад
Thank you so much for these clear instructions! One thing I wonder... How did you keep the engine compartment so VERY clean!
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi Jelle, thanks foe the comment 👍 I dont tend to do any major off roading so I think that might be why it's looking clean 🤞
@jellekrijnders2012
@jellekrijnders2012 Год назад
@@Witty924 One last question about this batter swap. Didn't you need to use a OBD tool to let the car "know" there is a new battery installed?
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
@@jellekrijnders2012 Hi Jelle, no OBD tool is required, it's only the auxiliary battery for the start-stop so you shouldn't need to reprogramme anything on the car. If you are doing this on your car let me know how you get on 👍
@nync123
@nync123 Год назад
Great video thank you! Do you know what battery type it is so I can buy a replacement before hand? I don’t see it in the manual. Ty!
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi Neil, thanks for the comment, I bought mine from Tanya Batteries here is the link via eBay for them www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273836223859 hope this helps 👍
@darkhorse8101
@darkhorse8101 2 года назад
Great vid.. Question..I was reading that you had to tell the computer that a new aux battery was installed so as to not over charge it? Did you find this to be true?
@Witty924
@Witty924 2 года назад
Hi, Dark thanks for the comment. No need to do anything with the onboard diagnostics the car will automatically pick up the new battery. That said the stop/start functionality on LR4 is very hit and miss and very rarely works well. 👍
@madventure2318
@madventure2318 Год назад
Great video thanks for posting. Do you know if you can add start / stop function aftermarket pls? Something I would look at with my LR4. Cheers
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Thanks MAD for the comment and support. I dontbthinknits worth the hassle to be honest, the system rarely works, I do not think it was a very well executed system they put on the final LR4s they seem very temperamental. 👍
@madventure2318
@madventure2318 Год назад
@@Witty924 cheers appreciate the response 👍
@alchristie2315
@alchristie2315 Год назад
To be honest, you should ask why would you want start stop at all!! I only want to get rid of the annoying ECO warning light; if I could do that and keep start/stop disabled I would.
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
@@alchristie2315 agree Al, they dont seem to be great on the LR4. I havent seen or heard of a work around to delete it. 🤞
@AgentBrit
@AgentBrit Год назад
Stay away from the eco start if I were you. They cause massive problems and don’t save that much in fuel anyway
@cblack1green
@cblack1green Год назад
Hi, do you know if this battery is charged from the alternator as well as the main battery.
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi chris thanks for the comment. So the short answer is partly. This link will give you the full run down on standard battery and auxiliary battery during car running conditions. Hope that helps 👍🤞 www.12voltplanet.co.uk/auxiliary-battery-charging-in-vehicles-with-smart-alternators.html
@alchristie2315
@alchristie2315 Год назад
Hi if the aux battery has not charged sufficiently, perhaps due to short trips, can this be charged in situ safely using mains charger without disconnecting?
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi Al, thanks for the comment and support. Generally with auxiliary batteries when they go bad there isnt a way of saving them. Short or long journey's wont make a difference as they dont run directly with the alternator as traditional batteries do. If its showing the light on the dash its generally time to change the battery. Hope that helps 👍
@alchristie2315
@alchristie2315 Год назад
@@Witty924 thanks for feedback. I’ve just checked the voltage across my aux battery and it’s 13.7V (engine off, no load) so this suggests it’s ok. My ECO light is on though, and there’s a P0615(13) fault code so I think I need to look elsewhere. Thanks anyway
@marissacastillo-br4mq
@marissacastillo-br4mq Год назад
Would you happen to know where the auxiliary battery for 2018 Discovery is located please?
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi there, thanks for the comment. So I believe on the newer discovery, let's call it the discovery 5 ;). It has a capacitor module built into the main batteries in the rear of the car. So of you batteries are working well it could be this module that could be at fault if your stop start is playing up. Maybe worth just double checking on the landy forums 🤞
@marissacastillo-br4mq
@marissacastillo-br4mq Год назад
Thank you very much for the information...I will check those forums as well. Car won't start and last time it had to do with the auxiliary battery post having issues.
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
@@marissacastillo-br4mqhope you find the answer, let me know how you get on 🤞👍
@4MACH35L
@4MACH35L 2 года назад
Hi Dear Can you hepl tell me whre is located Auxiliary battery for Range Rover sport 2011 model
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Thanks doe the comment B 45 try under the engine bay and the plastic covers either side of the engine
@4MACH35L
@4MACH35L Год назад
@@Witty924 okay Thanks
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 Год назад
We bought a used 2014 LR4 and it will stop at a light. Is that normal? Someone said this is a "fuel saving" design???
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi T thanks for the comment and support. So yes the start stop should stop the engine when you stop at lights if the systems works correctly. Sometimes it may not. The LR4 system is very temperamental and not the best. It's designed to save fuel as you say. Hope this helps 👍
@simonchandra8026
@simonchandra8026 4 месяца назад
Did you have to code the battery in
@Witty924
@Witty924 4 месяца назад
Thanks for comment and support Simon. No need to code the battery in. Should be good to go once the new one is fitted. 👍
@Texasborn45
@Texasborn45 Год назад
What is the code for this battery, it has 3/8 in terminals and is 6 in high, 6 in long and 3 and 3/4 Wide. What is the part number commercially in exude? He never shows it
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi Texas, thanks for the comment. So here in the UK I went for the Tayna EXIDE EK151 AGM AUXILIARY CAR BATTERY. Hopefully they can supply to your location too 🤞👍
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 9 месяцев назад
My wife's 2014 LR4 has an ECO transmission fault. The light stays on and can't be turned off. The battery was replaced last year and the car was reprogrammed. Can she drive it with this fault on?
@Witty924
@Witty924 9 месяцев назад
Hi tc, is it the ECO light in amber with the line through it? It could be the battery again. That said, its only the start stop functionality that the battery controls, so you should be fine driving it to your service centre for them to check or if you feel like you can change the battery yourself give it a go. I hope that helps 🤞👍
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 9 месяцев назад
@@Witty924 She also has a "transmission fault" warning indicator (triangle) I'm in Ohio and she's in Texas!! We just replace the Aux battery and cables last year! The previous owner put in a motorcycle battery and did the Appalachian Application! LOL So we just replaced the battery and cables with the required equipment. Someone else said the main battery could be low and that could cause the "transmission fault" indicator!?? It's impossible for me to know anything for sure from here and trying to do everything over the phone with her. Thanks for your support!!
@Witty924
@Witty924 9 месяцев назад
@@tclodfelter8789 Got it, did the transmission light come on while driving or when stationary? If it was when stationary it could be as you say a low main battery, potentially, it could also be a number of different sensors that could be faulty. let me know how you get on 🤞
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 9 месяцев назад
@@Witty924 Thanks! It came on when she turned the car on this morning. She's going to take it into a European car place in San Antonio on Monday! works on base so f she needed to she can walk to work... it's about 3 blocks from her hotel.
@Home_made_ch
@Home_made_ch 8 месяцев назад
Is this battery affecting abs?
@Witty924
@Witty924 8 месяцев назад
Hi Chalki, thanks for the comment. No this is for the start stop functionality. Hope that helps. 👍
@ld8778
@ld8778 10 месяцев назад
Does anyone know what battery size and group this battery is? My part store can only find the primary battery for the 2015 LR4
@Witty924
@Witty924 10 месяцев назад
Hi LD, this is the battery you need fornthe auxiliary battery. Just order from.ebay much cheaper and straight to your door 🤞👍 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273836223859 Hope that helps!
@ld8778
@ld8778 10 месяцев назад
@@Witty924 thank you. Will do.
@Witty924
@Witty924 10 месяцев назад
@@ld8778I hope it goes smoothly for you, let me know how you get on 👍
@ld8778
@ld8778 10 месяцев назад
@@Witty924 thank you. Unfortunately I live in the states and these are hard to come by. Dealer quoted me $460 for the replacement. Unsure the current conversion to pounds for you guys, but I tell ya . That’s a lot of dough for a battery. I searched a local parts store and had minimal luck. I have one other local LR repair guy that sells the batteries. Hoping he can be of help.
@Witty924
@Witty924 10 месяцев назад
@@ld8778 ok that is crazy my friend. Surely the US has batteries of this sort as they are used on many types of cars. Have you done a quick search on ebay US site. Just look for 12v 15Ah 200A at a size of 150mm by 90mm by 145mm. Has to be some on there for you. 🤞
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 Год назад
Another video said some modules can be affected when the aux battery is replaced and it needs to be reprogrammed!??
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
This maybe dependant on the year model you have. Mine is a 2016 last year model build of the LR4, I had no issues or need to reprogramme anything on the car once I replaced the auxiliary battery. Did the change, turned ignition on, all is well and works correctly. Hope this helps 👍
@tclodfelter8789
@tclodfelter8789 Год назад
@@Witty924 Thanks...that's good to know. I'm in Ohio and my wife and the car are in Texas
@mitchr5219
@mitchr5219 Год назад
Did you disconnect your main battery?
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Thanks for the comment Mitch. I didnt on this occasion but as with anything battery related be careful not to cross anything that shouldn't be crossed 👍
@rodpetrie1088
@rodpetrie1088 Год назад
A bit difficult to see the detail of what you are actually doing, at least from an amateur perspective.
@Witty924
@Witty924 Год назад
Hi Rod, thanks for the comment and support. I know I fixed the camera in one position which might not capture the full details at the beginning. In short, it's just 2 bolts that hold the positive wire to the battery and then a single for the negative. from there the bracket removal is straightforward. hope that helps 🤞
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