China's Most HATED Subculture... 

Lou's name literally mean Fuck" Xi Jinping. All of what the Shamata do is in rebellion to the government that is very very oppressive.

I already watched this video a year ago. You even used almost the exact thumbnail. www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HJpQ5DX

you read my mind emo

Xjapan is amazing

The "emos" wearing different colors is called "scene". they may look similar, but their both noticeably different. Scene is more quirky and colorful. Emo is more depressed and dark

this proves again Anarchy can only be anti communist

it can also only be anti-fascist and anti-conservative. the big flaw with anarchy, is there is very little that it can be pro, and is not a realistic goal as no nation or large group of people can live successfully without some form of organisation, and no organisation large enough to service 100s, let alone millons of people can function without leadership or rules. and these guys were not anarchists. they had strict rules, and leadership.

none of you people know what anarchism actually is, given the blatantly false statements every single one of you have made. the largest branch of anarchism is anarcho-communism/syndicalism. it's not communism, it's anarchism that borrows from communism for pragmatic reasons, not idealistic ones. after all, things need to get done. "no rulers" doesn't mean "no rules". we do have those. while we don't put people in jail, we do stop associating with them. that means you run the risk of getting universally cancelled by an entire commune (who might even go out of their way to warn other communes about you), likely resulting in you receiving zero support of any kind (which is catastrophic when you live in a place where everyone has to rely on each other). if you make a fuss about it, let's just say while we don't believe in any kind of hierarchy, some of us have a rather loose definition of the term "self-defense". we print stickers that literally tell people to ORGANIZE. in fact, most forms of anarchism are ALL about organizing without actually being an organization, while leaving people's autonomy intact. and most importantly, anarchism is not a blueprint. it doesn't tell you how to live or do anything. serving millions of people is not its job. you're asking for a painting when the whole point of anarchism is to provide a blank canvas for people to paint on. and that very fact (you looking and asking for premade solutions) is what state programming is all about. they want you helpless, so they are the only ones you can go to, which they exploit that to the absolute limit. i'm not here to defend or promote anarchism. if you thinks it's trash, that's fine. you do you. i just want people to actually know wtf it is they're talking crap about.

@@bubblegumgun3292 Both concepts are in fact super close, iirc. They support free association of people and the absence of a state. Anarcho-communism is also a thing. There are critical differences between communism as it was laid out and communism as it's claimed by authoritarian regimes.

Denying human nature is futile, communism has never and will never work. Get the control out of the way and let nature dictate who survives/thrives, that has been proven time and time again to work. Fear of natural consequences leads to giving up control, the ones who would take it are never your friend. Please read some history brother.@@vncntrgr

Same lol

I'm not even Chinese, and even I cringed every time he said it.

If I was a Chinese , I would call myself Xing Ping Ding

As someone who played enough Chinese games, I found it funny. It's even funnier that he's convinced that the pronunciation is right.

Laughing at Westerners is a great Chinese tradition.@@Kiwi-Araga

this. plus the music sounds like something scene kids listened to back in the day.

Yeah scene kids listen to weird thrash rock stuff like GG Allin

Agreed, as an elder emo that hung out a lot with scene kids there was an overlap of music interests (emo, screamo, metalcore even) but they also went HARD for crunkcore like Brokencyde and Hollywood Undead lol I remember, at least in my country, they were also really into regular popular music.

litreallt they look exactly how scene and emo looked in the mid to late 00s so 2005 to 2010

Scene.....emo. Emo Scene. Just looking at this shit makes me feel depressed. Now you try to separate the more colorful emos from the damp dark looking ones. Bullshit. Like today we have so many styles of goths/gothics. You people make me puke dark rainbows.

No doubt that it probably was! Pretty cool story.

Tbf they all look like Yugis

Yeah but this is more of a 80s punk legacy than anime. If you're old enough to remember cartoons like Jem, it's basically that - but finding its place in China 30 years late lol

I had the same thought

Honestly am I the only one thinking that the big spiky colorful hair cuts the Shamate have makes them look like bootleg Yu-Gi-Oh protagonists

I wonder what would happened if they choose the old bald with ponytail hairstyle like that movie once upon a time in china

that is a traditional hairstyle directly associated with manchurian culture and the qing empire. there has been a trend for bringing back han styles in recent times, but this seems very unlikely.

i think it's unfair to suggest this is like being behind with punk rock. as it coincided with the japanese visual kei and also what alternative scenes in the west were doing around that time (cyber goth, scene kid) that had styles that were comparable.

It was the easiest comparison to grab on too. I know alot of Japanese noise and cultural upheaval from the 80's. I see what you are saying but its very much a mish mash of all of the above.@@haruyasumi616

You are a victim of anti-Chinese propaganda. The person who produced this video is a paid propagandist promoting disinformation to make people hate China. Luo Fu Xing literally gave interviews about this - the only reason he adopted this hairstyle nonsense is to gain attention and feel famous. He dropped out of school and became a hairdresser. He also has no interest in dying his hair again, he thinks it's just for children who got nothing better to show for themselves. nothing about this has to do with "the government". People who fall for this propaganda are beyond help, to be honest. China is the most free country on earth, certainly has more free speech than any Western country where you get mass-arrested for protesting or even for accusing Israel of genocide. In China, nobody gives a f about what you look like. You will see far more coloured hair and crazy clothes in China than anywhere in the West. It's normal to see people in China walk down the street with cat ears/tail or crazy-coloured hair or traditional clothes than anywhere in the West. Cosplay is huge in China, too. People will (rightfully) think you are desperate for attention, though. You need to realize that all of the people who tell you that "China bad" are paid shills who want to manipulate you into hating China. The same kind of people did the same against the USSR (which also wasn't bad).

if you had a 1billion+ population hatin on you online you'd be bullied into gettin a different haircut p damn quick

Most people grow up and leave those sorts of things behind, kid

this made me chuckle

I thought to myself this is if Final Fantasy characters were real

you dont need to magine them dude they already exist, thy're called cosplayers

@@dcry1003 haha true.

I mean it did originate in asia no? Probably not? Idk, but I do know people can't tell me shit when I say they look like anime characters anymore

the algorithm doesnt make mistakes

But it dooo dooooe

I had heard about it only on The China Show I think

You are a victim of anti-Chinese propaganda. The person who produced this video is a paid propagandist promoting disinformation to make people hate China. Luo Fu Xing literally gave interviews about this - the only reason he adopted this hairstyle nonsense is to gain attention and feel famous. He dropped out of school and became a hairdresser. He also has no interest in dying his hair again, he thinks it's just for children who got nothing better to show for themselves. nothing about this has to do with "the government". People who fall for this propaganda are beyond help, to be honest. China is the most free country on earth, certainly has more free speech than any Western country where you get mass-arrested for protesting or even for accusing Israel of genocide. In China, nobody gives a f about what you look like. You will see far more coloured hair and crazy clothes in China than anywhere in the West. It's normal to see people in China walk down the street with cat ears/tail or crazy-coloured hair or traditional clothes than anywhere in the West. Cosplay is huge in China, too. People will (rightfully) think you are desperate for attention, though. You need to realize that all of the people who tell you that "China bad" are paid shills who want to manipulate you into hating China. The same kind of people did the same against the USSR (which also wasn't bad).

This is what they call punk rock in China. I love it. It’s subculture counter culture. I don’t care what they call it. I love it. And it takes a brave soul to stand out in a country where almost nothing is tolerated.❤😂

Love Chinese people, they're often friendly, honest and very generous - politics is a pity eh?

Well said. It is still a glimpse of hope that these kids with their ridiculous hair exist against the odds.

Yeah, more or less, but we need to talk about some other complications, like china is performing an economic model that antagonizes the most powerful countries and in the world, and the way they keep the peripheries docile is by imperializing their culture, and revolutionary goverments have to fight to keep social coheistion and communal intersts even against the seduction of imperialized culture Look at how well americans are doing with "freedon of expression", dying sick in the streets, unable to afford homes, jobless, and without security, this is truly freedon?

@@ConanOG It's China. Since when has people mattered to them.

@@ConanOG I'm owned by a bank with debt i'll never escape, half my generation is in the same boat. We are not free.

It's not unique when they all look the same

What do you know about China? 😂😂😂 bro they dissappeared yoga enthusiasts. Be real here.

@@JohnGalt916 what are you trying to say

@@JohnGalt916 'disappeared', come on now goofy

The slippery slope is real, they've been oriented this way for a while now.

@@OrgusDin they killed them. Falun Gong practitioners have their organs harvested, and then they are killed.

I forgot to say the subculture's name: Jejemon. A portmanteau of Pokemon and txtspeak "jeje" (= LOL). The subculture arose in the early 2000s during the rapid spread of internet cafes and mobile phones. When people started deliberately misspelling and/or shortening words while texting. During this time, the Philippines was ranked highest in terms of the number of people texting. I think we still rank quite high in terms of social media engagement, although of course, it's not just texting anymore.

@@AngryKittens This subculture was so prevalent in my school that my teacher nearly failed an entire class due to misspelled words and improper grammar for their essay in their English finals.

Imagine deciding one day to start a gang because you watched too much 6ix9ine

@@mushmush4980 lol

Oh I rember them they wear these hats and oversize shirts usually found near motorcycle hangouts and internet cafés. Usually trouble makers in class. They were so common that jejemon became for being bad boys or bad girls whenever a person breaks rules like bringing vapes to school.

because that's all our dads

second time ive seen someone say "thats hecking punk rock" and i dont really think that is, honestly for as shit as punk rock is i think most of those actual hard core punk guys would disagree with sweaty big haired deranged nerds being punk rock just because they are stupid and lack social awareness

You are a victim of anti-Chinese propaganda. The person who produced this video is a paid propagandist promoting disinformation to make people hate China. Luo Fu Xing literally gave interviews about this - the only reason he adopted this hairstyle nonsense is to gain attention and feel famous. He dropped out of school and became a hairdresser. He also has no interest in dying his hair again, he thinks it's just for children who got nothing better to show for themselves. nothing about this has to do with "the government". People who fall for this propaganda are beyond help, to be honest. China is the most free country on earth, certainly has more free speech than any Western country where you get mass-arrested for protesting or even for accusing Israel of genocide. In China, nobody gives a f about what you look like. You will see far more coloured hair and crazy clothes in China than anywhere in the West. It's normal to see people in China walk down the street with cat ears/tail or crazy-coloured hair or traditional clothes than anywhere in the West. Cosplay is huge in China, too. People will (rightfully) think you are desperate for attention, though. You need to realize that all of the people who tell you that "China bad" are paid shills who want to manipulate you into hating China. The same kind of people did the same against the USSR (which also wasn't bad).

True! And what's even sadder is that the center member of the group is no longer alive due to the pressures of society which had become too much for him mentally (I'm censoring my wording here, but you know what I mean). Jonghyun must've still been alive when the meme was made, but in hindsight it's even more bitter to see their music being used to bully and harrass others for doing something that made them happy despite society being harsh to them.

Yeah Ring Ding Dong has nothing to do with the Chinese subculture group, it was memed. The voices don't match up. Mainstream China seems to have weaponized it to mock others.

Chinese people just listen to Kpop. The person who produced this video is a paid propagandist promoting disinformation to make people hate China. Luo Fu Xing literally gave interviews about this - the only reason he adopted this hairstyle nonsense is to gain attention and feel famous. He dropped out of school and became a hairdresser. He also has no interest in dying his hair again, he thinks it's just for children who got nothing better to show for themselves. nothing about this has to do with "the government". People who fall for this propaganda are beyond help, to be honest. China is the most free country on earth, certainly has more free speech than any Western country where you get mass-arrested for protesting or even for accusing Israel of genocide. In China, nobody gives a f about what you look like. You will see far more coloured hair and crazy clothes in China than anywhere in the West. It's normal to see people in China walk down the street with cat ears/tail or crazy-coloured hair or traditional clothes than anywhere in the West. Cosplay is huge in China, too. People will (rightfully) think you are desperate for attention, though. You need to realize that all of the people who tell you that "China bad" are paid shills who want to manipulate you into hating China. The same kind of people did the same against the USSR (which also wasn't bad).

What's the name of the subculture?

_Visual Kai_ 🤣

Everything about this is just incoherent and ill-informed, mostly made-up nonsense. The person who produced this video is a paid propagandist promoting disinformation to make people hate China. Luo Fu Xing literally gave interviews about this - the only reason he adopted this hairstyle nonsense is to gain attention and feel famous. He dropped out of school and became a hairdresser. He also has no interest in dying his hair again, he thinks it's just for children who got nothing better to show for themselves. nothing about this has to do with "the government". People who fall for this propaganda are beyond help, to be honest. China is the most free country on earth, certainly has more free speech than any Western country where you get mass-arrested for protesting or even for accusing Israel of genocide. In China, nobody gives a f about what you look like. You will see far more coloured hair and crazy clothes in China than anywhere in the West. It's normal to see people in China walk down the street with cat ears/tail or crazy-coloured hair or traditional clothes than anywhere in the West. Cosplay is huge in China, too. People will (rightfully) think you are desperate for attention, though. You need to realize that all of the people who tell you that "China bad" are paid shills who want to manipulate you into hating China. The same kind of people did the same against the USSR (which also wasn't bad).

Ye

“Hardcore”

look emo kids legit wore cardigans and vneck sweaters, corduroy pants or just looked like skaters. what you think are emo kids arent and the music they listen to isnt even emo. scene kids are not emo. look up bands like Neil Perry, You And I, Yage, Off Minor, Page 99

I hope not. Self mutilation and the romanticization of mental illnesses and apathy into a fashion statement isn't healthy.

The reason of their origin has more to do with the juvenile wish to be a rebel without a cause, nothing impactful or wothy about it, it's just weird for the sake of being weird and adds nothing of value to society, just a trend that will die out soon luckily

Ain't no similarities to emo, you mean scene. I think people see wacky hair and assume everything falls under the same umbrella when it's like comparing r&b to salsa music

@@_PinkiePie. If your going to make a smart as comment then you better check that you are atleast correct. Saying "This is wrong, they have nothing in common" without anny arguments proving that that is the case is not a valid argument. Both emo and shamate are both based in some parts on counter culture, the classic kid playing loud rock music in the KISS music video.

That's what the Great Fire Wall of China is... Window Screens to not let in the "flies"

nah it happens everywhere. also, that is the most stereotypical comment i have ever seen

How much did the CCP pay you for this comment?@@jason-qc5lr

I would counter with, yes, but also the most sunlight

​@@jason-qc5lr no, actually...it really doesn't. Majority of the world likes novelty

@@cinnastag nigga i live in china

Glad you enjoyed it - thanks

Got a lot of cool research from laowhy

@@JimmyTheGiantlove those guys! Great to see you cover it as well!!

@@JimmyTheGiant yeah those guys are great for research on China, they're some of my favourite youtubers, I always catch their Live Friday show on their The China Show channel to keep up on the latest news and issues coming out of China

@@JimmyTheGiant WOW SO GOOD

Jesus Christ, if you guys think Laowhy86 and SerpentZA know what they are talking about. They were isolated from the locals back in China and have been completely out of touch for like the last 5 years

Thank you dude!!!

Most Asian cultures are what is known as collectivist cultures, while most western cultures tend to be individualistic cultures. Japan and China are the major examples of collectivist, which are taught from birth that you must consider your place in society before you consider your individual wants. The US is generally considered the prime example of individualist cuiltures where you're taught from an early age to "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" (to use a silly old phrase), before concerning yourself with how you want to integrate into your culture. They are inherently diametrically opposed viewpoints, so that's why so many things from each type of culture seem just so weird to the other, and why when people take on things from the opposite culture they are often vilified in their own culture.

@@KhronicD Nah Asian culture is much more "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" than the west Then when young people work they have to give money to their family. Asians have a brutal work culture, working 12 hour days is normal as is unpaid overtime. They have no time for people's feelings, you must conform. Asian cultures have no time for victimhood or mental health issues, Same with children studying, they can study 12 hours a day. Its true western culture is individualistic, but young people are told to stick up for your rights, dont accept abuse from anyone even an authority figure, (The west has gone too far with individualism but thats another story) Western kids also have a wide variety of options from normal jobs, to welfare and charity work, or the arts, they are encouraged to do something they love. Individual rights is only a thing in western countries. Even women still dont have basic rights and equality in most of the non-western world.

Yeah, all the negative things he wants to project unto China aren't even real. However, they are real for Japan. The person who produced this video is a paid propagandist promoting disinformation to make people hate China. Laowhy86 and SerpentZA are professional liars who likely work for the CIA. If you want to learn about China, check out Cyrus Jansen, Reporterfy Media, Alex from Xinjiang, Fermube, Noel Lee, Barrett, numuves, Daniel Dumbrill, Nathan Rich, etc. Luo Fu Xing literally gave interviews about this - the only reason he adopted this hairstyle nonsense is to gain attention and feel famous. He dropped out of school and became a hairdresser. He also has no interest in dying his hair again, he thinks it's just for children who got nothing better to show for themselves. nothing about this has to do with "the government". People who fall for this propaganda are beyond help, to be honest. China is the most free country on earth, certainly has more free speech than any Western country where you get mass-arrested for protesting or even for accusing Israel of genocide. In China, nobody gives a f about what you look like. You will see far more coloured hair and crazy clothes in China than anywhere in the West. It's normal to see people in China walk down the street with cat ears/tail or crazy-coloured hair or traditional clothes than anywhere in the West. Cosplay is huge in China, too. People will (rightfully) think you are desperate for attention, though. You need to realize that all of the people who tell you that "China bad" are paid shills who want to manipulate you into hating China. The same kind of people did the same against the USSR (which also wasn't bad).

They must also be Jedward fans 😂

So punk rock

@@AughtelMaybe but who said China had that trend? China was very different back then and with little to no influence by the west, the punk rock crowd probably never happened.

@@DarkCobra88 it's not a crowd. It's an anti stance. #FreeHongKong was very punk rock.

@@Aughtel Parroting CIA talking points is the opposite of punk runk

@matheusvillela9150 and parroting Chinese propaganda isn't an argument, it's a script.

Ayee big love manc

You are a victim of anti-Chinese propaganda. The person who produced this video is a paid propagandist promoting disinformation to make people hate China. Luo Fu Xing literally gave interviews about this - the only reason he adopted this hairstyle nonsense is to gain attention and feel famous. He dropped out of school and became a hairdresser. He also has no interest in dying his hair again, he thinks it's just for children who got nothing better to show for themselves. nothing about this has to do with "the government". People who fall for this propaganda are beyond help, to be honest. China is the most free country on earth, certainly has more free speech than any Western country where you get mass-arrested for protesting or even for accusing Israel of genocide. In China, nobody gives a f about what you look like. You will see far more coloured hair and crazy clothes in China than anywhere in the West. It's normal to see people in China walk down the street with cat ears/tail or crazy-coloured hair or traditional clothes than anywhere in the West. Cosplay is huge in China, too. People will (rightfully) think you are desperate for attention, though. You need to realize that all of the people who tell you that "China bad" are paid shills who want to manipulate you into hating China. The same kind of people did the same against the USSR (which also wasn't bad).

Yeah that's basicly equality.

@@pinkimietz3243it doesn’t even exist in the first place, some people will be born ahead in life already compared to others.

And when everyone’s super

No one is

They dont have to be as long as they can express themselves. Most people do not want to be different they just want to live differently than their current arrangements.

Yeah I don't get this condescending attitude, like they were wrong to express themselves and should have known better, rather than the society they live in being insane for going ballistic about it.

And what was the reaction of the rest of the Japanese back then? Does the subculture still exist now?

@@GL-iv4rw Japanese adults were outraged then. And um, yeah, the culture is still around... Ever heard of... Um... otaku culture?

@@Shadders2010 Yeah otaku is still not widely accepted for understandable reasons. I think a better comparison would be ones that this shamate was inspired from. Was Lolita and visual kew ever shun, but they are accepted now. Even western ones like goth are mostly accepted. You would shun shamate as well (as do I, because it's ugly and cringe) if it developed in a rich first world country like the west.

@@GL-iv4rw Still exists, but waaay less than in the early 2000s. Visual Kei for the most part has also changed it's style a bit more to glittery-vampire-kpop-style. Tokyo's Harajuku used to have all the shops for it, now most of it is gone over to kpop.

Honestly, I didn't think you have hair like that. I wonder if those people wear masks to protect themselves from all the hair spray being applied to them

It's bs, just like all the other stuff he said. The person who produced this video is a paid propagandist promoting disinformation to make people hate China. Laowhy86 and SerpentZA are professional liars who likely work for the CIA. If you want to learn about China, check out Cyrus Jansen, Reporterfy Media, Alex from Xinjiang, Fermube, Noel Lee, Barrett, numuves, Daniel Dumbrill, Nathan Rich, etc. Luo Fu Xing literally gave interviews about this - the only reason he adopted this hairstyle nonsense is to gain attention and feel famous. He dropped out of school and became a hairdresser. He also has no interest in dying his hair again, he thinks it's just for children who got nothing better to show for themselves. nothing about this has to do with "the government". People who fall for this propaganda are beyond help, to be honest. China is the most free country on earth, certainly has more free speech than any Western country where you get mass-arrested for protesting or even for accusing Israel of genocide. In China, nobody gives a f about what you look like. You will see far more coloured hair and crazy clothes in China than anywhere in the West. It's normal to see people in China walk down the street with cat ears/tail or crazy-coloured hair or traditional clothes than anywhere in the West. Cosplay is huge in China, too. People will (rightfully) think you are desperate for attention, though. You need to realize that all of the people who tell you that "China bad" are paid shills who want to manipulate you into hating China. The same kind of people did the same against the USSR (which also wasn't bad).

they were also huge in Iran

There's also heartfelt, warm, touching, fervent, genial, tender, amorous, soulful, romantic, sentimental...whimsical is a good one.

Huh

scene is not the same as emo. Shamate is closer to the western scene culture than emo@@longiusaescius2537

Ikr😂😂

It's not so unexpected, considering there were a few Chinese Visual Keio bands back in the day. BTW interesting channel you got.

i was thinking the same thing! looks like he watched serpentza's video and just made this based of that. >_>

That plus mispronouncing David Bowie’s last name really annoyed me. Given some of his other videos I think this guy just guesses at how to say things. I watched another of his videos earlier today and he pronounced Jackie Onassis as O-nas-y and idk where he got that from

@@raeganj6744I'm fairly certain this dude hires ghost writers to make the scripts for his videos. A lot of popular RU-vidrs secretly don't write their own videos

I know it means a lot to you, and this is your language, and you want it right. But really, we don't care, it's fun to say fuxing. Over and over, for the heck of it. We're westerners, it's what we do. I got a name like Livengood, you should hear what everybody does with that. Had a friend who had this complicated Indian name that went on forever, Shanmigossundruhmumum...so everyone called him Shan Was Here. It's a joke...funny...you know, laughing.

Visual KEI.

how DARE you be different, that’s so cringey!

Nah don't be ashamed, most teenagers do things that they later consider cringe, and when you grow old you start appreciating that time again as fun and nostalgic (in a "haha that was weird, but we had a good time"

Nothing to be ashamed about. I admire people who can just go out there and wear whatever they like with their hair in different shapes and colours because that takes alot of confidence. Sure it might look strange but to me it's strange in a cool way, nothing wrong with being different and standing out from the crowd. It would be boring if everyone looked the same. They also weren't harming anyone, like what was said at the end of the video, it was something for people who had nothing, that's wholesome. You should look back on this with positivity instead of regret. It's nothing shameful.

No way I got a heart by Jimmy