China's Plan to Establish a Permanent Base on the Moon 

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Why should they? The US blocked China from entering the ISS. Why do you ask them to forget and forgive?

China doesn’t need an international team to do what they plan to do. They have been very successful doing by themselves. In the future if some countries want to tag along, it’s fine with China but absolutely not necessary for China to move forward. I have confidence that China can do it by themselves for whatever they plan to do. Their record so far speaks the volumes.❤

International yes. Excluding the US

You're my go-to for Chinese space updates.

My money on Team China: USA cannot PRINT the Lunar base, but China can BUILD it.

Well done China,, the technology Giant 💪🏻💪🏻❤

For any kind of building venture my bet is on China. Their infrastructure development is just on another level. No other country even comes close.

China should not make it international. Make it purely Chinese and never let US and west access to it

Didn’t bring the Chinese when the international station first launches, knocked their application off with various ‘reasons’; guess it’s their term now.

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I totally understand chinese ppl to build every part of the project infrastructure. China is one of the most important insubordinated countries against anglozionist hegemony ruled by USA at the moment, relegate those construction tasks to other country would be a sustantial high risk due to possible USA interference/sabotajes. From the other side, no one is gonna sabotaje the construction of Artemis infrastructure, since Its USA itself the one that maintains that hegemony over most of the members u mentioned (not all of them are puppets). One more thing Dongfang. I recently saw a reusable rocket done by China that went up 10km. Is there more info I can check about that? Have a nice day and thanks for the video, as always.

Thanks for this extended summary of the ambitious Moon project.

Why should we Chinese make it international? Just cooperate with our allies, why should we let our enemies join too?

bravo CHINA !!!!!!!

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Another in-depth objective and entertaining presentation of the Chinese space programme!

I think China is better off going it alone. More partners = more problems

of course，but USA not included

If I remember right, China had already signed an agreement with Russia for space programs including moon base. Thus, technically, it’d be international.

With China speed, I bet on ILRS to be successful and sustainable due to the effectiveness and efficiency of Chinese govt and bureaucracy

Nice presentation with no political bias. Thanks!

International except USA

Welcome back. Hope you had a wonderful trip. Congratulations

Just like tiangong space station international relations in space are good for short term political gains, but they'll only be relevant on the long term when china will have settled on the moon basically by themselves, and while they keep taking market after market and investing into other developing nations space programs, they'll have a direct hand in their activities, so if others countries are interested in space or even the moon they'll quickly realize how out of reach it is for them, they'll have no choice but to depend on china, that's a smart move no matter what you think of it because at least that will allow them to use another country infrastructure to access places and ressources unavailables otherwise, this is some immenses long term political gains for china. Btw artemis is a joke you don't need to be smart to figure that out, this week they just lost a contract made with collins aerospace to develop suits for the artemis program, the thing is it's the most experienced company in the u.s that do that, and the actual suits are now way too old they had to cancel an operation on the iss because of leaks, on the chineses part everything is moving out just fine if not ahead of schedule, on the western part everything go from bad to worse; Missions of scientific nature are getting freezed or cancelled. Starship is showing limitations when it didn't even reached leo. Starliner is full of leak and boeing is about to disappear as things go on. Clps missions are nothing but failures. The european union nations are about to collapse economically and the u.s might follow within a few years. While china did build up a lot of experience and keep their plans ongoing, nasa lost it all in half a century of inactivity on the moon. Orion spacecraft still have issues of unknown nature that make the re entry shield unsuitable for a manned mission to occur And not last but i'm going to stop there because i don't want to write a comment that may actually be deleted for no reasons, an inactive russian satellite exploded forcing the iss crew to prepare to evacuate the station asap just in case as the satellite was on iss orbit. And they really don't need that. Nothing actually go well on the american side and the progress of the manned spaceflight part are really limited and we've yet to know if hls starship is even feasible, nothing is made seriously there that's for sure, and i don't talk about the lunar settlement part, nothing currently exist that even look like a plan, there's no architecture, and we're not even a decade away from the moment they're supposed to have a base? At some point the various countries that signed the artemis accords (mostly because of the legendary pressure the petty us gov is capable of) will have to tear up the whole thing if they want to collaborate with china, not because china will forbid it's partners to work with the us, but because the u.s will forbid the ones they see as pawns to work with china.

Awesome episode thanks for the update!

Thank you for the update, Jean...❤

The answer is a no brainer. Any country except the exceptional country, exceptionally troublesome.😊

Its not about who is 1st on the moon but who will last on the moon.

Artemis is a conjob. you do not need gateway if you have starship, and if you have gateway you do not need starship. both system requires considerable resources and you will be left with nothing to land on the moon with. the reality is most NASA staffer are only interested to go to mars, this is why they build the gateway, it is a demostration for long term flight outside the van allen belt. they only shoehorn the gateway to the moon mission since the congress is only willing to fund that. I am betting on China establishing the moonbase first as they have no selfish intention hidden among their space administrators... NASA pet project is too big of a drain, not just on money but more importantly time.

Yeah it may take a bit longer for China but China still can do unimaginable things even if China is alone in space race. Proud of China!

China’s plans over the next 15 years are so exciting. It is quite unbelievable, really, to think of it all coming together! And the Chinese consortium will do it on time and on budget, totally leaving the EU and the US behind.

China’s space programme including the latest Chang-E 6 was on target on schedule working with Sweden, France and Pakistan launching their respective satellites to the moon. They schedule the moon sampling trip to 53 days returning as planned on 25 June performing all the difficult step by step operations flying to the moon, releasing the moon lander, sampler, ascender, rendezvous with the returner, transfer sample, returning to earth orbit and landed at the predetermined location. It is meticulously planned with advance communication relay satellite, appropriate adjustment of flight direction and very successful transparent outcome. When comparing with NASA’s Starliner with all the problems and delay at the moment, it is a such a huge gap between the two countries. Considering for many years, US has been trying hard to stall China’s space technological advancement without success.

这集质量很高，全部介绍了所有的信息，画面也对

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Not possible to be international. It is like you built a house and you will only invite good friends to visit.

CIA - ' China has destroyed NASA Apollo Mission landing site, leaving no trace of American Astronaut on the Moon surface !!! '

It can be international; but as the US didn't want them on the International Space Station, no doubt everything will be written and communicated in Chinese! The lunar "gps" will no doubt be based on Chinese standards. Good luck to them.

the budget comparison shows perfectly the theory behind 2 moon exploration programs (ILRS vs Artemis), that is ILRS serves/focus on developing countries, where Artemis aims only developed countries. US also weaponize Artemis program to against ILRS and probably has exclusive rules that force its participant can only join one instead of the other. A very American way. So, it's not China willing to make ILRS more international or not, it's US should be criticized to its insane "cold war" mindset and "space race" mindset.

I'm a US citizen, but I'm really psyched about China's progress. I can't wait to see what such a determined and harmonious people can achieve.

India's next Chandrayan 4 is a sample return mission from Moon. Before that Mangalyan 2 (Mars orbiter mission 2 ) will be launched. Now the agency is fully concentrated on human space flight. Also a reusable space shuttle concept is in the initial stages.

Great video as always. I'm always happy to hear more details about Chinese progress.

🎉the return of the king! Long time no...update😂❤

ILRS will pick up steam once it becomes obvious that it works, and once the Global South develops their economies enough to be interested in space exploration. This also addresses the point of whether China will entrust other countries with constructing critical modules. There's a fundamental difference between the western program, which brings together countries with already established space industries, and China's program, which will include many countries with no prior experience. This project is also about tech transfers as much as anything else. And that's something the West just doesn't do (or in a very limited and politicized way).

China only need one country to join the Moon Base for it to be international. It has more than 10. China has the tech to land and lift off the moon so it has every thing it needs to build the base. The question is Are they two moon bases targeting the same location? If so, then it is indeed a war.

To be honest, China along can handle all the aspect of aerospace program, it has 10 million graduates this year along, and 1/3 of it are of engineer/math/physics background. there is enugh human capital in China to fuel almost all industry segments.

Finally! We really miss your videos. This is very cool, please don't disappear.

We have an old saying in China,... what you say you do, your deeds will bear fruit. .....

thanks for sharing. very clear.

The only moon USA astronauts walked on was in Hollywood😂

Great videos 👍👍👍

Nice job!

Being international doesn't need extra adjectives. China's plan is indeed international and doesn't necessarily need to be. The idea of "Trully being" is a mental flaw and doubt of your ability to do something you already prove you can do cost effectively.

Good stuff

Before talking about competitions, let’s see if the West Artemis project could actually softly deliver some working equipments to the moon surface.

Thank you 🙏

little mistake about the date at 0:46 (2023 instead of 2003) but great content all around! Keep up the great quality.

Even Eskimo is welcomed but US. Due to national security taught by US.

love how you narrate

Our country actually doesn't need help from other countries. The so-called international cooperation is just our generosity in saying 'let's include you as well.

Why China build their base should open to all？

very objective observation and analysis without political bias, great video

always a treat when you post, jean. post more!

good video！love from china

China welcomes cooperation with western countries, unfortunately many of the western countries are either American colony such as German or American vassals such as France. China understand their fear of the Americans and had let it so and its up to the European themselves to decide.

well i just remenber the International Space Station don't allow china join the project, even russians in.

International yes, America , EU, UK not INVITED.

@ 12:08 , two notable countries among the 12 that joined ILRS program: Nicaragua, a very small Central America nation with a bigger space exploration ambition and Turkey, NATO nation that jettisoning earth politic for the wonder of extraterrestrial exploration.

your audio sounds very "wet" and is kinda difficult to listen to for those of us afflicted with the misophonia, is it possible to fix that? love your channel and space news from china is very important!

Excellent presentation. Chang'e 6 did deploy ICUBE-Q, a Pakistani lunar remote sensing observation satellite. The countries first lunar mission. It will be fascinating to watch what international cooperation develops regarding Tiangong (Chinese Space Station) over next few years. Experiments, and partner crew/visitors. This might foreshadow active lunar partnerships. One challenge with Tiangong is it's lower inclination (41.5º vs. 51.5º for ISS) which makes it more challenging/impossible(?) for Russia to launch rockets to from its current launch locations. Russia launched the first ISS module, Zarya in November 1998, which ultimately determined ISS's orbital inclination. So having space launch partners does have some geo-political and logistical implications dependent on Earth.

oh wait,when britis went to australia for the first time hundreds years ago ,did they invite china to come to australia to share the land and own the huge island together?

Anyone except the Anglo-Saxon

Certainly the Artemis program has many more relevant countries when it comes to space exploration, which in the end puts them at an advantage compares to the ILRS program. Regardless, China can't participate in the ILRS and, given how the US always made sure China can't partner with US space endeavors EVER, China will move ahead all on its own.

From what I understand it really seems like a bunch of ground robotic mission cooperating together in the same area but not like a real crewed base. Yes, maybe some crew will land in this area but it does seems like the base is just here to bring support to extend the duration and capabilities of landing mission. The name "base" seems very misleading

At 0:45 the screen caption is wrong... Should say 2003

As we speak, the two US astronauts are still stranded in the ISS.

Can the ILRS become international? No reason not to. Сhina has plenty of friends among the BRICS+, SCO and BRI member states who can be invited and be more than happy to join the program.

Good luck 🤞

Congratulations China, this is your century.

Is it possible the use of SMR (small modular reactors) or pebble bed/breeder type reactors for the ILRS?

Come on countries!!! You can do it!!!!

It’s not surprising that western countries didn’t want to join the ILR. Western countries have their own traditions and space programs. China needs to focus on countries that have some space capabilities and do want to join the ILR.

Can NASA trust Boeing to build a moon base? Can the world trust NASA without Hollywood's assistance?

Budget size doesn't matter when the mission is specific and has fixed budget range. For example, a man who has 10K can buy a car, so can a man with 100k. The car has a fixed price so their financial status is irrellevant to their ability to get what they want.

Definitely it is international base, but not include US

Does the international space station program have China?

It's Russian/Chinese station. Not just Chinese.

How are they getting through the radiation belts?

If you build it, they will come.

10:24 it should be Falcon Heavy not Falcon 9 !

Visa for Guanghan Palace please

I think that relying on too many countries in this case is not an advantage but a disadvantage. What if one or two fail at their tasks or deliver bad products? It could ruin the entire mission and possibly cause deaths. The Chinese are smart to do all the work themselves and take only some instruments from others that cannot jeopardize a mission.

Gateway is postponed right?

Just remember that contrary to popular misconception in the West, "International" does not mean "with the G7".

My crystal ball tells me that Artemis will be beset with problems like funding & delays and the ILRS will have a higher chance of happening on schedule.

Danke für diese News, sie sind wie immer sehr interessant. Es ist sehr schade das die USA eine Zusammenarbeit mit China weiterhin blockiert und die ESA in Europa ist zur Zeit auch nicht handlungsfähig. Wenn Russland wieder handlungsfähig ist, wird es sicher wieder interessant.

@0:48 seconds typo October 2023!

Those Reds and their shenanigans.

What is internationalization? It is necessary to have the United States and Europe to call internationalization?

yes, excluding usa