CHIP v Raspberry Pi Zero 

At least they have more ports than the new MacBook

3:25 actually, powering C.H.I.P. from a LiPO battery _was_ straightforward, as it had onboard power management to stabilize voltage and charge the battery. Awesome for a hobby project.

Way To Bring The Hits Every Sunday Chris! Another Great Video Man. It Was Very Interesting To See A Side By Side Comparison Like That. Well Done. This Will Provide Many Answers And Options For People New To These Devices Moving Forward......

Very nice comparison. Yeah, people complain about different softwares being tested, but this is great for comparing out of the box performance.

Yes, great job once again. My whole family follows your videos. You do such a great job of explaining thoroughly.

I just wanted to say that I really enjoy and appreciate your videos. Your lack of bias and dedication to fair comparison is exemplary. Thumbs up.

Excellent! Didn't even know about the RasPi Zero, but just ordered one, although I struggled to find the board only! Ordered a Chip but still waiting for it as it was sold out. Just been notified it will be shipped this month. Really good narration voice and presentation by the way!

What a time to be alive.

If you are a thrifty person many of the add-ons you need can be found at pound shops for the Pi Zero. A mouse, charger, hdmi adapter all found there.

Clear and easy to understand comparison. Very good stuff.

Excellent presentation!

Great experience watching so tiny computers. Thanks................

Good vid! Informative with great production values.

thank you for the very informative video, been wondering about the performance for a while now.

Seeing again is nice to see how things are getting better in this small device... I use the pi zero for teaching to deaf people with video lessons

Thanks for doing these two videos on the CHIP! It was something I mentioned in the comments a while back :)

Thank you for this, answered my question perfectly.

This channel very much deserves the 3/4 million subscribers it has- "good show" I say to it success.

another quality video! always insightful and on point.

EXCELLENT AND VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE .THANK YOU SO MUCH KSM KSM

Great comparison. As a newbie, you info channel is an outstanding tool for me. Thanks!

I discovered your channel a few days ago, just wanted to tank you ! amazing channel :D

I dreamt of 256 bit credit card computers in 1969.

i have resisted doing this for 6 ov your videos and i have to admit, you got me.... SUBSCRIBED!! thumbs up!!

You might want to re look at this now :) Since the pi zero W has wifi and bluetooth built in ;) and the price is closer togther now lol

I'm a big fan of CHIP, but I think this was a perfectly fair comparison overall.

Thanks for the video. I love when I see new videos about SBCs. I love collecting and testing them. I would love to see chromium on an SBC.

The video playback comparison is tied into the "support" you mentioned near the end of the video, and said support may be the most important part of SoCs. Any SoC at the sub 50usd range will always crawl like the chip when doing video playback with gnome mplayer. At least with catch-all acceleration methods and drive stacks that come out with the operating system you use with it. Starting at the lowest level the Pis operating systems and hardware have been available to the public for far longer, so not only is there more of a mature understanding of it, you see things like Omxplayer more often. Omxplayer is what wins the Pi for video playback, it is an entire video player stack using the OpenMax api from Broadcom themselves to get the absolute best media play back possible from the Pi. The chip may one day have the same sort of support but unfortunately unless one person stumbles on some goldmine of performance in the chip to compete with things like Omxplayer, it is always going to be second fiddle to the Pi.

you should do a vid on the different "projects" you can do with the chip. you do a great job with the vids long time watcher and subscriber keep up with the work

thanks for these videos. Very helpful

Pi Zero W just came out a week or two ago and it adds the same WiFi and Bluetooth setup as the Pi 3 to the Pi Zero. Costs $10 instead of $5 but that should actually make it a lot more accessible since now they have room for profit.

good video but I really wish you had run the same browser and video player on each device. using different programs kind of negates the test in my mind. What default program the developers decided to use doesn't really have any bearing on raw performance. I think anyone who would be buying one of these would understand how to install a different program.

Great review, IMO. Thank you.

Really surprised by the result of the video playback test! Did not expect that at all! Bit of a shame that the Pi Zero does not have wi-fi and/or bluetooth on that board, though. It's just what it needed. EDIT: I wonder how's the performance for data access speed on both of those devices.

how about in one of the next videos one of the bench test i think it would be a great idea to test them in light gaming or arcade cabin emulator

Nice comparison! Also could you make a list of all the similar single board computers available so far?

Well done as usual!

Great comparison. Thanks

Ordered a chip years ago after watching your review, never ever got to try it.... Ordered the pi zero w last Thursday and it should be here tomorrow, hope it's more fun that the chip would have been heh...

What a great video ! I'll go with Chip + DIP. You could use a flashusb for added RAM for chip (like old winxp netbooks used for extra RAM) so 6gb basically =) I'll just use my 2k downconverted or 1080i to vcd/mpeg1 video files to play on CHIP !

Amazing technology and awesome comparison. Subbed

well it had to happen some time i guess 36 years old , internet / youtube about 20+ years first thing that's interesting on this crap site very nice structured videos , good explanation thanks man , keep it up

Top review! thanks

I would have thought the use for these would be to be built into other projects, for control or telemetry, as a kind of super form of embedded device, so I would tend to downplay the necessity of using a monitor, and for this reason I would prefer the Pi Zero as it comes with the option of either soldering header pins on if needed, or directly soldering wires onto the board itself for a better long term connection, which is how I would like to construct a project myself.

Excellent video, Christopher. I like the neutral point of view presented, because both boards have advantages and disadvantages, and of course it is up to the user to decide which will be better to meet their need.

the pi is a lot better option for me. i have a wifi dongle, an hdmi to normal hdmi cable, a usb hub and a powersupply. i use (a full size) pi as a media center for my living room. i also overclocked it with no problem whatsoever. but the most important for me is the on-board decoder that makes the video playback perfectly buttery smooth.

If you put the DIP on the Chip all the GPIO pins will be occupied just to have a HDMI output. On the PI you can still use the GPIO pins and have a HDMI output. They should've made something else for the Chips so that you can still use the GPIO pins + have a HDMI output.

I'm sure you're aware by now that the PI 0 (W) comes with WIFI and BT as standard. Great video thanks

I'd be interested to know if the 3D update that was released recently for the chip (that amazingly allows to run Quake 3 flawlessly) will reflect in proper video reproduction

Another great video

How to connect the RSPBY board with the ARDWINO drives with the step in the CNC?

I think they're planning on releasing on upgraded model of the chip soon. I want one! :]

The PiZero says "Waiting for extension UBlock origin" which is an adblocker extension.

Well, you've changed my mind about the CHIP. Another great video tutorial. Thank you for posting this video. I'll stick with my PI 3 for the wife's next computer.

another great video

I was curious about the audio output quality and found in the datasheet that the Allwinner SoC has an integrated 24-Bit audio peripheral. For me that would be a huge advantage over the Zero, but now I'm confused why they don't lose a word about the audio in the documentation. Neither the wiki nor the datasheet specify the sampling rate, output impedance etc.

Thanks for the comparison video, thumbs up and subbed. I would run the chip as a headless server and point boot to root stored on a 16 GB USB stick. So for my purpose the chip looks like the best deal.

hi chris love your videos ....keep up the great job .....!!!! i'm new to single board computer...is it possible to make clusters with each of those two boards, if yes how many is it possible to stacks together ?? thank you

I'm wondering if the HDMI adaptor on the chip computer was causing the slow browser video playback, was the performance the same out of the composite video? Academic as chip went bust

I have to agree the Pi has the edge. Its on-board HDMI and user selective memory capacity are key features. The CHIPs slow video playback is more than a little disturbing and a game ender if it cannot be overcome. The price of both devices is getting up there once you add on necessary accessories... which make one wonder about simply going with a full size Pi over the Zero. Excellent video as always.

I wonder if the video playback is more of a driver issue or built in decoder issue. Sucks but sometimes with low power devices you will have to convert or download videos with codecs that are supported by your onboard decoder :)

Chris, you might want to do a video about thin client computing, meaning using a low power computer to access a remote server to do work, like I'm doing right now. I use a Windows 10 OS in a virtual machine on a Linux server in France, and accessing it from Linux Mint using Remmina RDP client. I use a low power laptop with a 4W Intel Celeron N3160 CPU and 4GB RAM and a 32GB eMMC storage.

On the Launch browser & page load-test, you can see in the bottom left of the Raspberry browser that it's the uBlock extension that's causing most of the extra time spent in rendering the page, while I'm not sure the C.H.I.P even had that extension. Still, neither of these computers are really meant for browsing or even windowed environments in general no matter what the marketing is telling us.

i love your videos. i also like the sound track :)

The Chromium starts to wait for uBlock Origin adblock extension from 26.5 seconds. What if we also install adblock on Firefox? Does it run faster on the CHIP?

Good comparison video... Bu what about the Heat generated on Chip & Raspberry Pi ? Could you help with this. Thank you!

Memory Access Time - how much of a factor is memory access time? I have been surprised at how slowly laptops run SDs and microSDs when plugged into the SD slot, even when the storage chips themselves are fast. UHS cards running on USB3 via an appropriate adapter can be several times as fast as the same cards shoved into the SD slot.

can you make a video on how to solder the composite video jack to a raspberry pi 0 w

Firefox vs. Chromium, found your issue.

I LOVE THIS CHANNEL

Its worth noting that the availability of the raspberry pi and the chip are vastly different. I have only ever seen the chip shipping from the nextthing site whereas the raspberry pi is sold on a multitude of electronics websites. Also the chip shipping costs for the UK are extortionate, but it is coming from Australia so ho hum.

I wonder if you could connect them together for a simple server system?

I think the software comparison would have been more fair if the tests were run using the same applications, I mean, to be fair, that the actual conclusions here fit the question "what default software run better on each device" instead of "what device is faster/better"

finally well done

Firefox and Chrome seem to load the webpage quite differently. Is that the case? Do the browsers themselves pick which parts of a webpage to load in what order?

I would love to see you review the odroid xu4. I'm interested in it as a desktop computer that uses ubuntu mate.

Great video, a long time ago now, I was thinking a raspberry pi zero vs banana pi m2 zero might be interesting.

Just saw a presentation about this thing embedded into the PocketCHIP case. By the time you make the "cheap" computer runnable, it is at least 3 times the cost of Pi3, about 10 times the price of a Pi0 with about the same speed if you want HDMI. 1/4 the speed of a 3B for more money. I guess it has a market niche but I am straining to understand it. The flash that has to be bought tends to level the pricing just a little but, as you say, not changable on CHIP. Limited selection of environments, too. As always, an excellent, informative presentation. One update, the Pi0W is out now so $5 extra for the Pi side of the tally. As of May 3, 2018 the CHIP is not available. They claim they will return. I suspect their production run was completely subscribed and they have to go back to the fab to get some more made up. Will see what it looks like next round.

There was uBlock Origin extension on Chome, a lot of time was spent processing the page for ads.

Have you updated videos releated with SDR?

what about the pi zero model w which is the same as the one you are using in this comparison, but with WiFi and bluetooth

excellent videos. How can I order these hardware? I mean, through the internet which is the best way to do it, I guess?

Another great video Chris. Thanks for the comparison. I'd like to see what kind of electronics/IoT stuff the Chip can do, versus the Pi, seeing as its got twice the gpio pins. Also, is there a pass through method on the Chip when using the HDMI card, or is there some other work around? Thanks again for a great channel.

To be honest I'd use neither of these for desktop computing, I do have a Zero which I am planning to try some projects with and I'm going to get a Chip just because they are cheap, by the time you buy all the peripherals you'd be better with a PI 3 model B with 4 USB Ports, Wifi, Bluetooth, Quadcore, 1 Gb ram, Ethernet, HDMI all for around the $40 mark.

when it comes to the pi zero, some flagship phones (like the GS7) include a USB OTG adapter, so sometimes you don't have to buy an adapter

I thought the chip appeared visibly faster in composite than in HDMI, "snappier" if you will. The adapter drags, it's likely what's wrong in video playback. You should try video playback on the chip without it for a cleaner out the box comparison.

Perhaps a more accurate comparison might now be between a CHIP and a Raspberry Pi zero-W which has a built in bluetooth and 802.11(something) wi-fi card - it's closer to $10, but brings more functionality onboard. The "vanilla" Zero is perhaps closer in concept to the "thinking person's Arduino" - it's primarily intended as a "maker" board which *happens* to run a version of Linux, than a fully-functional desktop alternative. And to be "balanced" - the Rpi needs you to set up the Micro-SD card on a conventional computer, or buy one preloaded with Raspian Still, an interesting comparison

Will you ever do some kind of a portable arcade or PIboy. I would love to see your version of the build!

Is CHIP camera ready like raspberry pie 0 v1.3 version?

Where i can buy this pleezz lmk what's the easiest way to buy the Shannon have windows installed is it already installed or would it be easier because from what I understand Lennox is free and available to download so I would be able to install that on to the check if it doesn't have OS

Does the Pi run Adblock in its browser? Does that affect webpage loading speed?

The CHiP includes a battery charging circuit doesn't it? So you can solder on a LiPo and use it out and about. Then again there are plenty of 5V battery packs that connect via USB, and they include a charger circuit. The newer Pi Zero (v1.2) introduced a mini sized camera port. You did a fair review I think... clearly not biased one way or the other.

The CHIP has one huge advantage and that's the ongoing availability by the manufacturer. While the RPi Zero is great when it comes to function as it should, the company behind unfortunately decided to set this thing on a limited production. That's also why prices for the board are also almost as high as those for the typical Pi2 and Pi3 boards.

CHIP came-up to me with short 3.5mm to phono AV lead, so I will not add this cost. But fairly price scope and computing power is quite similar. Real deal with CHIP is on-board communication, storage and lipo connector, making it very small and compact computer, ideal for drones or robots :) However, the killer punch is from RPi with community support. In my opinion the most important thing in DYI IoT devices. BTW: Serious programming is done via remote desktop/SSH, not on board, best wo. xwindow started ;)

Hello friend!I am facing a problem in my RaspBerry pi zero, it is not recognizing mini wireless touch pad keyboard and another that I have also not, what do I do to solve this?Can you tell me a keyboard or solution?I connect mini keyboard by hub!

Could you add a RAID setup to them? I don't really understand computers.

Community support is probably the most important part for me. Without community support I would have never bough my Pies. note: I saw you say that some 64Gb cards work on the Pi in fat32. I have formatted my 64Gig and even 128Gb cards with the special formatter (for noobs) and they all work great (I have about 8 Pies that I manage and or own - i lost count)

I prefer the minimalism of the Pi Zero, especially not having internal storage. I like all that modular.

The Raspberry Pi in all of its raspberry goodness.

Is the CHIP actually available yet? Their UK site says out of stock, delivery Q1 2017. Bob