Chris Broussard- if Nikola Jokic Wins a Championship, I Think He's Better Than Dirk Nowitzki 

Jokic’s style of play benefits from the modern era of positionless, 3pt focused basketball. Larry Bird could have easily out up similar numbers if he played today. Jokic would have the rebounding edge due to his size. If SGA can average 30ppg, Dirk could. Dirk never averaged 30ppg for a season his entire career. Dirk played his peak years in the slowest offensive era of the modern NBA. Jokic is playing in the fastest era.

​@@ninocrown3247 Great point!!👍🏽👍🏽

People are definitely to quick to anoint people players over others with many years in the league. Jokic certainly looks to be on the trajectory but I wish we’d just let these young players play for a while

He would have won 3 mvps in a row if not for the media. Did dirk do that?

​@Corona Hoax same media cupping his balls now tho right?

@@CoronaHoax-nd2rr Dirk got drafted a year Jordan won MVP lol and competed against Lebron, Kobe, Steve Nash for MVPs around when he won his. His competition right now isn’t at that level. Not saying he can’t surpass Dirk, he’s not there yet but he’s definitely on the trajectory to pass Dirk and a lot of others. Same reason I give Jokic the nod over Giannis and Embid for availability, longevity also matters when looking at careers

if he wins this chip and assuminig he doesnt get a career ending injury during his prime he would be ahead of dirk no question.

Just don't sign the likes of durant or other ring (status) chasers, they have something special.

Dirk also changed the game as a 7 ft ball handling shooting guard

Jokic isn't changing the game because no one can do what he does besides Giannis and Luka and they don't do it as well as he does it

Jokic is a better player but he needs more time to pass dirk.

@@IknowMoreThanYou you don’t know basketball, dirk was a 7footer shooting gaurd. He was the first 7footer with 3 point range, luka & the Greek don’t play like Jokic @ all smh casual

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Man that was messed up year for the Lakers, akin to this years Warriors squad as far as locker room issues. They just came off a repeat, and there was just so much garbage going on in the locker room and front office. Im with you though, Dirk and Terry went through them and handled their business against Miami.

​@@SojiRo23 yeah I remember Andrew bynum was complaining they wouldn't let him shoot 3s

That was 5 MVP's that DIrk disposed of.

Dirk had a great run for sure but he also has so many chokes and disappointments that holds him back people tend to forget before 2011 he was one of the biggest chokers of all time This is like Jokic 2nd real playoffs with championship expectations if u even count the bubble and he’s going to win his first championship and looks primed to lead this team into a potential dynasty

He also underachieved a lot in his career too

Yes they do Giannis; Embiid; and Joker were talked about the whole year

Dirk averaged 26 points, 9.7 rebounds, 2.0 assists on 41.6/36.8/97.8 shooting splits against Heat, with 20.8 field goal attempts per game. Jokic averaged 30.2 points, 14.0 rebounds, 7.2 assists on 58.3/42.1/83.8 shooting splits in the Finals, with 19.2 field goal attempts per game. I love Dirk as much as the next guy. He was the 1st option, the heart and the spirit of that Mavericks team. But come on now, Jokic is literally the system who is unparalleled in the C position in the history of this game.

Who? Spurs and the Lakers, the lowly Detroit Pistons

@@yct23X Duncan, Kobe, KG, Shaq, Amare, Pau, Nash, D Wade, CP3, KD, TMac, Webber, Carmelo, LeBron, Iverson, Dwight etc… Dirk played against all those players in their prime, the 2000s-early 2010s is the most stacked Era

@redman27r Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, KG, and LeBron, maybe Durant, but Dirk was already out of his prime when KD was coming with Russ, the others are forgettable

@@yct23X D Wade is forgettable? Are you high?

​@@yct23X in 2011, Dirk took out KD and Russ...swept 2time defending champs Kobe& Gasol...

And how many assist and rebounds did he average ? durk was a notoriously bad rebounder for his size jokic could score 35 every night if he wanted.. he could do every durk did but durk can't do every jokic can do

exactly, the last 5 years the nba avging 110-115 ppg. when dirk played it was 95-100 ppg

@@WittynotSilly if he could why he doesnt lad??? STOP MESSING AROUND ALREADY if he could be as effective as you re saying he would have done it but he doesnt BCZ HE CANT but you act like jokic is holding back... such an uneducated thing

I'm comparing their skill sets and jokic is better and is going to have the same amount of rings and fmvps as dirk but another mvp in a week or 2

@@---kr3zg If you’re comparing their skillsets, rings and mvps don’t even need to come up. This is exactly what I’m saying.

The better way to compare players in different eras is to look at the accomplishments. If we look at the skill set, modern era players are ways better thanks to the advanced training. You take any current NBA team to 1960 or 1970. They would win the title every year.

Not only that. Think about the fact that a guy like Toni Kukoc never made a single All Star team in his NBA career (1996-2004). You're trying to tell me that Toni Kukoc wouldn't absolutely excel in today's game, given that the game is so friendly now to the European style of play? Dirk had to go up against Duncan/Parker/Ginobli, Kobe/Shaq, Kobe/Gasol, prime D Wade, LeBron/Wade/Bosh, a young OKC Thunder, all while not having another All Star next to him for the vast majority of his NBA career. And he still accomplished more than some of the guys who everyone keeps telling me are better than him. LeBron formed a superteam and still ended up 5/16 against Tim Duncan in the playoffs. Dirk beat the Spurs trio in 2006 with Jet Terry as his second best player. Folks need to start putting some respect on Dirk's name!

Nah Jokic got 2 mvps and maybe the chip Dirk lost to an 8th seed as an mvp

Cartoon Rob from year 1983.

Better career goes to Dirk of course because Jokic has a long way to go. Better player with a more complete skill set?Jokic hands down.

No ones dis respecting dirk by saying jokic is the better player.

He’s already better than Dirk and that’s no disrespect to him

For real

Tbh, I think that says more about MJ than it does about Barkley and Malone, especially Barkley. His run in 1993 was damn impressive, and if MJ had a meltdown like LeBron did, Barkley most certainly would have won. Like, imagine MJ getting outplayed by Dan Majerle, that's basically what happened with LeBron getting outplayed by Jason Terry 🤣

and that guy was the GOAT. Mj avged 41 ppg in finals to beat barkley. MJ aint losing to dirk

Jokic is just the more well rounded basketball player. He just doesn't have the mileage or hard stats to compare him to all time dirk

Style of play is also different. Dirk wasn't passing to shooters. He was passing out to mostly slashers his whole career. When Jokic passes he has 3 to 4 guys on the perimeter looking to shoot. That's going to increase assist numbers at the end of the night. Compared to passing to slashers, putting the ball on the floor to get to the basket for 2. Now that assist opportunity has gone away regardless of a make or miss. Today's style of play is affecting assist numbers making them higher across the league compared to the past.

Now talk rebounding a passing, Jokic can score less 10 less ppg and is one of the most impactful players in the game.

@@dallaslabar3821 Jokic is definitely a better rebounder and passer. He said Jokic is the best passing big man of all-time. Dirk is the best shooting big of all-time respectively. Dirk is the better scorer and shooter. Dirk is more clutch and he can go further with less

If that’s the case then we shouldn’t compare eras tbh. The league today is clearly more different.

@@jeremiahsmith7706 scoring is very debatable considering Jokic could go for 35+ at will but uses his passing skill. What’s he shooting from 3 this postseason, 48%?

@@dallaslabar3821 scoring isn't a debate considering Dirk is 6th all-time on the scoring list

Such a deep Era 😂 what bigs are he competing with like c'mon the only guy who gives him problems at his position plays in the East I want to see more bigs Bam and Ayton aren't great players of course he's going to give them work he's playing against power forwards who just happen to play center id like to see him in the early 2000's he's great but I need to some competition for him at his position

​@@jasonbilly5247 nuggets are winning without a rim protector! Have you ever seen that in the history of the NBA???

@@elmehdinafia1237 There shooting 3's there ain't nobody driving to the basket anymore he'd be getting into all type of foul trouble and getting posterized these dudes ain't built like that anymore hence why the foreigners are whooping they asses now

You had me until deep era lol

Great points! But I don't see this as putting him up there all time/career. Just that he's a better basketball player right now. He has a long way to go for a career comparison..

He wasn't. Definitely not close to Malone. Malones game was flawless. He just ran into a super rich mans Kobe Bryant. Barkley was better too. Outside of 3pt shooting - not sure Dirk did anything better.

What about Karl Malone and John Stockton though? I think the formula is about maximizing what you have. Compensating weaknesses with great complementary players. I think that's what was going on in Golden State when they were successful

He was great in 2011. But yall seriously downplaying DPOY Tyson Chandler, HOF Jason Kidd at PG. And the Kingslayer himself, Jason Terry.

@@manz7860 nobody downplay them tbh its just that dirk was the one man standing out and if im being honest HE gets downplayed bcz he made so many fanboys angry they will always have an urge to talk trash about him or downplay him one way or the other

Agree Dirks championship was something I won't forget even if the joker wins this year I'm sorry but this year's championship ain't better then that one but nikola is a better all around player he is a bad man right now but dirk would smoke charles and Karl and kevin no problem

Unlike Kawhi Jokic is breaking wilt number and never gets hurt..

Game for game - when healthy Kawhi was better than Kobe. Better on offense and defense. Just doesn't have the resume.

@@erikpuka2627 that's why Lebron and Jordan are the goats cuz durability is a big big factor in the all-time players rankings..Kawhi is not in my top 40 players just cuz he's not durable and had only 1 deep run in the playoffs as the main guy..

@@elmehdinafia1237 Lebron is nowhere close to being thr GOAT LMFAO

@@erikpuka2627 no he wasn’t

he wouldnt get past lakers and if he SOMEHOW did it wouldnt be a 4-0 massacre nearly solo offensive carry in the first 3 games do i need to also mention the sheer fact that he was robbed from the 2006 finals against miami? AND robbed from mvp? 6th all time scorer in a significantly tougher era! jokic is DEFINITELY one of my favorites EVER but he isnt on dirk's level yet, he might surpass him though who knows but for now he falls under the line

Dirk is by far ahead of Nicola

@@josephstewart2827no he isn’t

Chris said he thinks Dirk is overrated so nah just think y’all have two different views on Dirk

@@cheerioss-9121 I understand but Chris is only looking at 2011 finals and not looking at the whole thing. Like I said before Dirk beat Lebron/Dwade/KD/Kobe in the road to his championship. And he did made the finals twice in his career.

​@@2knelly363Not even to discuss that Dirk had never won anything for Germany ,while Jokic at 20 was already in Olympic finals with Serbia ,he is already half of famer ,he is 2x MVP ,finals MVP and NBA champion and he is 28 ,Dirk was not .Joker already accompished so much more than Dirk and he is in his prime .

19 years in the nba and people only talk about 2011. He's slightly overrated. I would take Tim Duncan over dirk in a heartbeat. I'll probably take even KG over dirk

He didn’t disrespect anyone 👍

@@hakukabani3788 🤡🤡🤡

Lebron choked. That was the issue. Heat win that finals if they had Gordon Heyward instead of Lebron. Heat were a legendary mythically stacked superteam. Wade and Bosh were amazing. So were the role players. Lebron was 100% the reason the Heat lost in Those other series you mentiones - other teams didn't come close to being as good as the Heat were and no player choked as Bad. Its like if the KD led Warriors had lost to some team with only 1 all star and if Steph and Klay were amazing but KD was essentially a role player and played 0 defense. Thats what it was. Wade outscored Dirk Nowitzki

@@erikpuka2627 "Heat win that finals if they had Gordon Heyward instead of Lebron." No offense, but after reading this bullshit, whatever you said after that was dismissed. Have a good 1.

What do you mean top 20??? If he wins 2 titles and maybe 1 more MVP he is top 10 all time for sure, but he doesn't even need one more MVP trophy as most top 10 players don't have more than two MVP trophies. Age 28 he already holds most of center position records and a bunch of NBA records, breaking every week historic NBA records set by Wilt 50 years ago. By the time his career is over he will set records that won't be broken for another 50 years like Wilt did!

@@joemilo2710 I'd say he needs to win 3 titles total to be undisputedly top 10 all-time, but yeah, he doesn't need 1 more MVP. I think 3 titles would firmly place him alongside Larry Bird.

@@back2back379 Well, all those players apart from Hakeem (who is not top 10) won titles with not just multiple All-Stars and All-NBA teammates, but with multiple HOFers on their team, so Jokic's 1 or 2 titles have a much bigger impact as the guy never even had 1 All-Star or All-NBA teammate player. Even though Murray is All-Star caliber player in playoffs, he is 18-20 ppg player in regular season which is 3rd option player numbers and he never plays full season due to injuries, meaning Jokic has been carrying that Nuggets team to playoffs every single season by himself. That's an incredible achievemt. larry Bird had nothing but multiple All-Stars, All-NBA and HOFers on his team all career long, there is no way Bird or any other superstar would carry an average team of role players even to playoffs, let alone deep in playoffs and let alone every season in superteam era. Jordan did it with an average team, reached only one Conference Finals, before getting a superteam and HOF coach

@@joemilo2710 hmm, not too sure about that, Bird did carry a 29 win team to be a 61 win team as a rookie, so there’s really no telling what he’d do with a cast of great teammates who are all borderline all stars. Also, if Jokic wins multiple chips with his cast, several of those guys will be HOFers too.

@@back2back379 You must be joking??? Which guys on Nuggets team will be HOFers??? Murray who never made and All-Star team will be HOFer because of what exactly? Winning a title or two as a number 2 with absolutely no NBA individual accolades will most definitely not get you into HOF house. Larry Bird rookie season was the season Celtics made a team reconstructure, they even brought in Pete Maravich who after injuries was still a nice talent piece to come off the bench. It's the season he had a bunch of HOF talent players. Tiny Archibald. Cedric Maxwell, Pete Maravich, Dave Cowens... Are you saying those HOF veterans and next season's finals MVP Cedric Maxwell are on the level of Will Barton, Monte Morris, Campazzo, Murray, Porter Jr, Jeff Green and Gordon??? I mean come on, get real. And next season Celtics already added Bird's HOF co-stars McHale, Parish, and next season they added Danny Ainge and then the list of All-Stars and HOFers goes on and on, Dennis Johnson, Bill Walton, Reggie Lewis, Jim Paxson,... that Celtics team that Bird was on had nothing, but HOFers and All-Stars and All-NBA players!

yep, better resume than AD

Yeah Charles Barkley had terrible intangibles.

😂yeeaaaa yo that went ova erybody head! Niggas like chuck & Malone mightve had more well-rounded games than Dirk & if u argued they're better players in a vacuum I wouldn't hate on it but dirk has decades of international accolades in addition to his nba 1s & led maybe the most improbable championship run we've seen in 21st century so his career tops theirs. This a bad take bcuz it's an impatient 1, let mans career unfold sheesh. He could wind up being top 2 or 3 centers EVER but u comparing him to dirk in 2023 😂 jus do better Broussard!

Dirk wasn't as well rounded as jokic. People are seriously downplaying Jason Terry and Tyson Chandler when they give all the credit to Dirk.

@@manz7860 the team make ups were definitely different, Dirks job was to score. If he had the shooters to pass to Denver has he would have averaged 10 assist too

@@adamtait2696 dirk was never a strong passer lmao. Now you're just rewriting history and speculating.

@@manz7860 He was an excellent passer. Nowhere near as good a passer as Jokic though. That Mavs squad 10-11 was probably the best team I have seen since MJs Bulls.

@@manz7860 this video is speculation and all these comments are opinions 😂 I am not rewriting anything

Don't leave out Westbrook harden durant okc dirk beat that year too

Greatest "shooting" big man... So you're saying THERE'S MORE TO THE GAME THAN SCORING??? Embiid been the leading scorer 2 straight years...

He would have if he had Jason Kidd, Hawn Marion, Tyson Chandler and Jason Terry on his team

@@robreeto those are all good role players equivalent to what Jamal Murray,AG, and Kentavious are today

@@darrengordon-hill He opened the door for a big to even be able to shoot because before that it was predominantly back to the basket bigs whether they played the 4 or 5, so YES greatest shooting big man and 6th ALL TIME in scoring

With Jason Kidd being a second to a star just like jamal Murray

Stop it he got put three years in a row before this playoff run

Dirk did one thing by your logic. Jokic has MVPs and is about to win the Finals

Nah Lebron melted cuz the lights were too bright for him and shrunk under the pressure..he got outplayed by freaking Jason terry for crying out loud..

Lebron didnt melt against Jokic but instead had his best playoff game of his career and still lost. Bith bog men are HOF though. Excited to see what comes from Jokic's career

@WhiteNegative he also played during the Lakers and spurs Era..they both had 5 chips each . Jokic playing broken teams and a final against Jimmy butler . N is till didn't say dirk was better . It's jus reality. Jokic has mvps. His competition was embiid. A 7 footer that plays like he's 6'5

Yall really forgot about Jason Jet Terry huh. Smh

Dirk also didn't play with the players Jokic is playing with. Give Dirk this team in his prime and he's winning multiple rings.