Chris Watts: Cracks In The Mask 

Exactly right!!

Ironically your statement lacks emotional empathy intelligence 🤭

@@ekstromjulia111 Yes, the comment is purely objective.

@Q Many (many) are functional sociopaths as well. They, unlike Watts, are highly intelligent and more functional. There are much easier easier ways (legal ways) to control people and get your way than physical violence.

Tony Walton I was married to a narcissist who was a genius mechanic and could understand football plays and statistics like he was Rain Man. But the guy couldn’t really solve anything involving people, feelings, time, history, or thinking outside the box. He was especially bad at factoring in variables or predicting outcomes. He was incapable of forward thinking. I used to walk around thinking to myself that he was an intelligent idiot. He reminds me a lot of Chris Watts.

I really wish she would have just gone back to NC and started fresh

​@@Harrisisacommunistmarxist24Everyone here feels the same😢

Thank you for the warning

So long.

Ripping off the mask is dangerous for them it mortifies them and threatens their survival

He learned from his mama.

He didn't notice it either

Yes someone did. A friend of Shanann made a video, I can’t remember the title. It’s here though and if you look through enough Shanann videos you’ll find it. If I find it I’ll try to post the title here. She said at dinner with CW and Shanann one night, she and her BF ordered a milkshake to share. She got a piece of broken glass in her mouth from the shake, broken glass somehow ended up in it (maybe from a broken part of kitchen machinery), anyway this woman says she picks up on creepiness real well. As soon as she told everyone at the table she’d just nearly swallowed this piece of glass she took a quick look at CW and she said…he was smiling. Everyone else at the table looked concerned and were leaning in to look. He sat there with a slight smile until he then snapped out of it and began pretending to be concerned because everyone else was. And, Shanann herself saw his mask slipping but she didn’t realize exactly what was going on as well as she didn’t want to believe it. Oh and Shanann’s brother Frankie saw the mask slipping in N. Carolina. He saw the abrupt personality changes.

All they have is the mask

The vocal fry of a guilty guy

Not necessarily. They can be very persuasive. I saw through him but only because I know what a narcissist looks like. Unless you’ve been there, it’s hard to explain.

​@@neige4221I agree most people believe narcissists as long as they don't sound too delusional

Did you ever notice Nichol has serious vocal fry? He's picked up on some of her conversational traits that he noticed worked for her. He's like a sponge.

@@christinejunk8184That’s so true…and also how he starts peppering “like” into nearly every sentence.

Very good observation.

So true - smart comment! From 09:25 was very telling, the way Watts made an impassioned (and quite ridiculous) statement about how he'd fallen out of love with his wife during 5 weeks away from her. Getting no feedback from an impassive Agent Coder he breaks off and says "Does that make sense to you... at all?" like a needy schoolboy, desperate for teacher's approval! And Coder replies: "The timing doesn't make sense". And Watts immediately shoots back "OK", and launches into an even more impassioned version of his, "I'm such a great guy... I did everything for my wife, even the laundry", self-pity party. Watts repeated attempts to manipulate a seasoned FBI investigator are so pathetic and doomed to failure, you can't help but laugh at them. The Watts interrogation video may just become required viewing for all would-be killers about what not to do in the early stages of a police investigation.

I can see that as well. He's trying so hard to sound like a heartbroken, scared father and husband.

Excellent observation! I've witnessed this phenomenon myself. It can be incredibly creepy and disconcerting in an "uncanny valley" sort of way; like watching a robot that can *almost* - but just not quite- pass the Turing Test.

@@CedarMountainsnow i have never seen such a derailed, dull, fool, idiot, stupid man like Chris in my entire existence on this planet. I wonder how he went in school. So irritating to watch and listen to his BS. He is just digging his own grave deeper.

Karen S thank you so much! I'm really glad you're enjoying it :)

Karen S - No doubt this creator has demonstrated her value in a career as expert witness should she want it. Her insights into psychopath Chris Watts are devastatingly revealing

Karen S great idea!

My thoughts exactly 👌🏼♥️

These videos have finally made me understand who and what CW is. I actually remember exactly where I was when I heard what made it click, even when it was a year ago.

I really admire the FBI agent skills. I see how he guide him right into the confession and how CW slipped up over and over. I’m enjoying your analysis of CW in these videos! All of your discussions are evidence based information about narcissism and CW is a perfect example of one. Like others have said, he may not be the brightest bulb but he sure is a narcissist.

The one he's pretending to be isn't... The true Chris is... The dark one.

Now he's spending the rest of his useless life in prison for those girls. He's going straight to hell afterwards for those girls.

RIght. When I heard "who says that" I said alout -Bruno Mars lol

That are backwards To .

YES! I'm glad you mentioned that statement. It really stuck with me not only because of how he said it, but how fake the emotions he expresses are like that. Everything is so exaggerated. No one is really "your light". He never says anything real like, I love them and care for them no matter how hard things get. He expresses distancing and fake dramatically adoring language that is completely just fake sounding (like in this instance). Something from a Hallmark card is the best way I can describe it. The doctor here calls it a badly written film script. He thinks if he speaks like this he can get people to believe it. Unfortunately Shann'ann did... But she had to feel distant since he can never express a real down to earth emotion that she can relate to.

Yeah narcissists love to mimic things they've heard that they think are the proper things to say without feeling any genuine emotion behind the words.

Becky Morris thanks so much, I'm glad they were useful to you :) x

Becky Morris, that’s me also. I just found out about this case late 2021. I’ve been researching and watching almost everything because it just didn’t made no sense to me. Not until I started watching this channel that I’m finally able to say I’m understanding and starting to think I’ll have closure.

It's important for people to have some awareness of psychology in order to deal with and understand different personality types. I get the impression than Shannan had little knowledge of psychology, that's why she didn't seem to cotton on to who Chris really was. 8 years seems like such a long time for a normal person to be with a narcissist.

I was very disturbed by this case and couldn't stop my obsession until I understood what kind of monster would do something like this. I felt unsafe, that anyone could trick me the way he fooled everyone. These videos were the only thing that was able to help me to understand and move on. Thank you so much

@@gul201210 probably she didn 't thought that her husband is capable of such horror, she wanted to see the best in him after even all these years.

That's exactly what I was going to say! I know, I'm really late to this...I've avoided this whole thing because of the girls. Child killers are something I'll never be able to wrap my head around. He dehumanizes them by saying "those girls."

Robin Rosen Distancing himself by not using any of their name.

Those girls that wife

@@suzymoroka297 you are all SO right. And he spoke in past tense about them some times. How can anybody be so stupid to take a lie dedector Test when He is guilty. This family, Sorry is trash or very, very sick and Dangerous. I wrote this before: Instead of shuting Up and letting Shanonns parents get piece (they spared his Life), his narzistic mother Makes Channels and so on. Let These poor people get Peace after 3 years. But they are not thankfull in any way. CW Made a Life insurance, If Shanonn and the Children would die,He would get 450.000 USD, now His f..Family wants that Money. I cannot believe how anybody can be so cold.

As Shanann's heartbroken mother said, as she addressed Chris Watts in court, in her powerful Victim Impact Statement: "My daughter put a crown on your head". It's utterly sickening that Shanann's love and fidelity for this man was so cruelly and brutally betrayed. The only tiny comfort I can find, picking through the horrific details of that terrible night, is that Shanann may have known nothing about her children's murders. I hope not. She was a wonderful mother who clearly adored her girls. As one of Shanann's friends remarked, she would have chosen Bella and Cece over one hundred Chris Watts! I feel it is really important voices continue to speak out for the victims, Shanann and her babies, who no longer have a voice. I strongly believe Shanann would be outraged about Chris Watts' brutality towards her and their three children. She would applaud the LIVE ABUSE FREE channel for seeing through her husband's well practised 'pity party' and alerting people to the psyche and conduct of dangerous covert narcissists. He wore his mask successfully for years, playing on people's ignorance about the nature and motivation of covert narcissists. Ignorance is not bliss - shining a light on these dangerous people, as this channel does so brilliantly, will diminish their power to hurt and destroy others. Please keep up the good work in outing them - this could well save lives, which would be a wonderful legacy for Shanann and her babies.

@@glamdolly30 but even if she didnt know about the girls I think her thoughts as he was killing her had to be about her children..even if she did not think him capable of killing them even if he could kill her, she had to be thinking along the lines of "oh my God, what is going to happen to them?" And "if he could be doing this to me what will happen with the girls"? And maybe "no one will ever know he did this because everyone thinks he is such a nice guy and I have always talked him up". At least those are the things I would think would be going through my mind right after "I cannot believe my true love, my partner, is doing this to me!" I guess the best thing would be is if maybe she was not aware of what was going on! Did she take pain meds or sleeping meds for her medical conditions?

In Flawless Skin nothing is ever good enough for a narc. You can be the perfect supply and they will still devalue, cheat, mistreat, etc. I believe her excessive FB postings were a cry for attention. Behind closed doors she knew something was off but was in denial. She thought praising him publicly again and again would bring him back to the person she wanted him to be. It was just unbeknownst to her that person never existed. It was all an act and he was ready to move on to his next performance with fresh new supply.

Yes, he had surely been devaluing her, and in her videos she was trying to get him back to the "loving" person he seemed to be in the beginning, when he was lovebombing her to hook her. And when he tells the police he felt recently that he was always doing something wrong according to Shanann, and that he felt he was "walking on eggshells' around her, he is projecting his butt off.

Looking forward to the next video this is so so so good and so perceptive

Lady Of Cinder haha that made me laugh! Thank you so much, I'm really glad you're enjoying the videos :)

@LiveAbuseFree hi, I have fairly recently become aware of this case, and your excellent insight. I am enjoying your videos, despite clearly not enjoying the crime of course. Like thousands, I remain staggered by his brazen, cruel and stupid actions. Thank you

I agree with you.

20,000 likes in a conversation.

@Kendra B What do you mean, he is talking to someone, he's alone in the room at that point?

Kendra B I’m sorry but Angel is making 3 videos a day even well stuffing her face with food. I did not hear it and I never heard any one call it a machine it’s a oil tank so where she came up with machine I don’t know but I never hear anything she hears and have listened and tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. At this point when someone like her and arm chair detective are both making 2 to 3 videos a day about this tragedy they are both trying to get subscribers, ads and donations and it’s WRONG TO KEEP TRYING TO PROFIT OFF OF SOMEONE ELSES TRAGEDY. BOTH OF THEM HAVE NO NEW INFORMATION JUST TRYING TO MAKE MONEY AND ITS SICK AND WRONG!

Shelene Reed Thank you first off they don’t call it a machine it’s a oil well and her and armchair are putting out 2 videos a day trying to get new subscribers ads and donations. They are trying to profit off of a families tragedy and it’s wrong. Not to be mean but Angel can not even pronounce half the words correctly makes me sick. I go on for 2 min tell her the truth of course they say don’t watch but these people are so dumb to think she’s intuitive and can hear things we can’t hear.

Karen Ambrosia yah I could barely get thru one video. I lasted a few mins and most was skipping ahead!! Back to reality... Chris definitely says “fuck” when the investigator leaves. That’s a huge tell that I totally missed. He knows he’s screwed agreeing to a polygraph!

Shelene Reed I got that impression after a few seconds of one of her videos.

Horribilis Clank Thanks so much for your kind words! :) Do let me know if there are cases you are interested in for future videos.

Horribilis Clank I agree. Out of the many people who have made videos about this, this channel is my favorite.

@@Glass_Caskets aw thanks Nocturnal Pulse! :)

Live Abuse Free Well, I'm sure you've heard the news about CW's upcoming release of his recent interview. We'll all have another go round with Mr. Chris. That should be interesting, of course depending heavily on how truthful he is ... or isn't. I AM curious as to who set this particular ball into play. I suspect that it was at least started at his request. It also looks to me that the interviewers involved were specifically asked for, & may well have been the key factor in encouraging him to open up. These investigators share with CW a very unique connection under extraordinary circumstances. They may be the closest thing to a group of friends that Chris Watts has at this moment. Whatever HIS motivations might be, that his previous interrogators responded & have since been willing to "have their reputations tied into it" is in itself an indicator, I think, that they must feel there's enough merit to the things he says that it's worthwhile from their points of view. If, after the session(s) were done, they had any doubts to the results or the value of it, I'm confident they would've called BS long before now and put distance between them and the results. I think it's very likely also that they are THE people he feels most comfortable with opening up to. It's a guess, but on some level I think he likely STILL feels inhibited to make full disclosure to his "best friend", his dad ... and THAT in turn makes me a little more hopeful that he will finally make more of a full confession than if it all were tried only with his dad. His former investigators have the advantage of KNOWING lots of things they found out from him that he still won't feel free to open up fully about with his dad. Another big part of their advantage is that he cannot pretend for long to maintain his "mask face". With his dad, I doubt very much if that scary clown face of his ever came off in those conversations. Finally, his dad cannot pretend to be without personal & familial concerns within ANY of their interactions. With the investigators, on the other hand, they KNOW their professional reputations rely heavily on their specialized training, of which carefully maintaining their emotional distance from their subject. That being said, I anticipate the broadcast of this new information as much as anyone who has even marginally followed this horrifyingly SAD siutuation. AND I very much look forward to YOUR reactions & analyses! There are scads of RU-vid channels which have swarmed all over these crimes & from as many approaches as possible, but yours has become the first channel I look for. You're really the gold standard by which to gauge the clarity & veracity of all the others. I appreciate highly the credentials & training which you bring to your analyses, and especially the calm, professional demeanor with which you treat the events and people involved must be mentioned in tandem . So please keep on keepin' on. I have an idea that we'll all meet up again after the "Big Day" on the 7th! P.S. - Wherever it is that you live looks absolutely gorgeous! It reminds me of my time on Oahu ... well ... ummm ... AGES ago!

Horribilis Clank Isn’t she phenomenal. I like you, like so many of us have watched and read everything that’s available on this case, and finding this woman’s channel has been so satisfying to me. She explained the BIG QUESTION, the question that has made this case as incomprehensible as it is. HOW THE FUCK CAN A SEEMINGLY LOVING FATHER MURDER HIS OWN CHILDREN? I found myself reading everything searching for any understanding and finding nothing. She explained the answer to that question in such a simple and logical way that I finally feel at ease with it. I’m seriously grateful to her, she has reduced my stress. ❤️

My Thought's no, because he was convicted of kidnapping carol deronch so he would still be in jail and not a free man

Lmao 'nice'...

It depends. Lots of people report feeling like he was a bit of a creep, and thats the impression I got from him and his demeanor, too (outside of what we obviously know, I mean just in terms of how he carries himself). I believe a few women even survived because they were slightly off put by his weirdness.

@@TheObsoletist33 I think that the issue is there are a lot of very trusting people who have no reason to see past superficial socialization. That's how he managed to get away with it for so long. For a lot of people the mask is enough if you act nice and say nice things then they assume you're a good person. Then there are people who see past the mask, see how the smile doesn't reflect the eyes that their body language is off. See how when they say nice things it doesn't seem genuine.

John Wayne Gacy too

That’s the scary part about these types of killers. We all want them to be obvious in how they appear, but they are not. They are as normal as you and I on the outside and they do a really good job of hiding what lurks inside of them, which is pure evil.

@Kathy Griffith Aw thanks so much for your kind words! :)

Kathy Griffith I’m waiting for the Ant analysis😆😆😆😆

@@wonderfulwenna2710 Haha if you find a particularly narcissistic one, send him/her my way! (I'm sure the red ones are more likely to be narcissists than the black ones...)

Live Abuse Free hehehe😊

Kathy Griffith lol right me 2

That's the biggest tell for me. He never asked what was going on with the investigation into the disappearance of his family. I think anyone whose family was genuinely missing would have been frantic. I "lost" my son twice in the mall. One time at sears b he climbed out of the stroller and sat under a circular clothing rack. He was about 2 feet away from me the whole time. He was almost 2. The second time I was at a store called Northern Reflections. I turned my back for a second and he was gone. I searched the store, it was a small one then w ran out into the mall screaming his name. Again, my little darling was only a couple of feet away from me. This time he climbed into the window display and was sitting in a rocking chair. It's funny now but the terror I felt then was horrible. He was such a good kid, but twice he scared the hell out of me.

In the Discovery files is a written report from a cop who rang Chris Watts on the Tuesday, to conduct a short interview over the phone. The cop noted in his report: "At no time during our conversation did Chris Watts ask me if there was any news or progress in finding his family". CW was so totally lacking in empathy and understanding of how a normal, loving family man would behave if his pregnant wife and kids were missing, he was incapable of behaving appropriately!

@@glamdolly30 That's astonishing. 😨 You'd think he could have mustered up some fake concern.

@@Sharon-pb7so exactly..but again maybe he just wasnt very bright!

he doesnt ask for a search party to be formed to find them either ....

My ex covert narc of 25 yrs sent cards and poetry during the love bombing stage in the beginning. I remember feelimg weird about it but had not co tect dor definition. Plus my mother was an overt narc. I was groomed as an empath.

They have no originality. They repeat over and over and over. They will also tell you the same story 100 times and tell it like it’s the first tome they told you. Always telling it the same exact way every damn time.

He wrote cards to NK? 🤔🤨😱

Suzy Moroka check out discovery evidence. It’s terribly sad the stuff he wrote to her. At one point even he called NK the same nickname Boo that he called SW. I felt ill when I read this in those discovery evidence. I now see narcs for what they are. 😥

Yes! My ex would re-tell other people's stories, of their experiences, as if they were his own, and was also bigly into love 💣 ing and song lyrics, and owned a bunch of rare guitars... that he rarely played

Ummm... I dont think they were very convincing to anybody really! Certainly not to law enforcement

Even if he wasn't convincing, I'm also fascinated by his need to wear the mask of the good guy that is "calm."

I wasnt connvinced. Not even for a second.

@@leedevitt3676 yep me either

I was seeing someone who stole from me, but I could not accuse him if I didn't see it... but the lies were endless the moment he opened his mouth a lie was coming out, and when I would confront him, he would try to turn it on me with made up stuff that never happened and he will speak with so much conviction that I think he believed it. Just so puzzling and this after being with a covert one for over a decade, it felt like I was driving on a road with potholes, I would get out of one, and fall into another. After that and the monster I dont see myself in a relationship ever!!

Paula Brown It’s interesting that the public gets a front row set to watch this all unfold. I don’t pretend to know anything about psychology but since this has started I’ve been looking up characteristics. It seems like he is a ball BPD but flat as piece of paper?

Max, that's a good point. We "suspect" someone of doing something wrong usually, not of doing something right. He has "suspect" on the brain.

Yea I picked that up from the very beginning the first interview he did..that was so odd to me ..to refer your missing girls as "these kids" nobody talks like that! He should be saying my kids my girls..not.these or those girls

Remember when he let the news interview him to ask the public if they knew where his family ? He called Shannan "it" he said he came home and "it vanished". Oh and he laughed during it too and didn't seem concerned, upset. Never shed a tear. What a fucked up human.

NK did this as well. She didn't want to say Shannan's or the girls' names.

Ditto. Also, I'm so sorry you've had to experience such abuse. I hope you're on the path to healing, and I wish you all the best! ❤️

Wished I'd watch this series when i was 18.

@@icebergrose8955 ❤

It’s like an android trying to mimic human emotions....... “My love for the wife and the kids has exhibited exponential growth ever since my first encounter with them.”

All the warmth of a calculator.

@@icebergrose8955 well said

Cindy, Chris Watt's mother is a great example.

Add mother's to that list

I’m available for interviews; I outlived mine 🎉

Hear, Hear! This channel consistently produces original, insightful videos of rare quality. Alas the vast majority of channels covering the Watts case are cynically peddling misinformation and in some cases downright lies, insulting the brilliant detectives who cracked this case within days and Shanann's loved ones - who need no further agony such as lies that one of the children was taken to the dumping site alive! Thank you LIVE ABUSE FREE for continuing to be an invaluable beacon of truth, professional insight and integrity, exposing the MO of covert narcissists and helping people to understand the real dynamics behind these sickening family murders.

This is a great channel another great one is MommyRamblingsBlog. She does not BS around either.

You also need to watch True Crime Loser on the CW interrogation as he is great on that :)

glamdolly20 so agree armchair detective and angel wings make at least 2 videos a day with false information. It’s really sick and sad when people are trying to get subscribers, ads and donations over a family’s tragedy. Not to forget critical thinking Kay who is one sick woman. If you really want people to be critical thinkers talk about politics and people like Chris and other murders and rapists instead of putting down someone that is no longer here to defend herself. Some people are really sick when it is a fact from the Vincent camera and one of Shannan’s family members had to watch the videos that he killed all 4 of them. Although I do think his mother sister and the few friends they have are a big part of pushing their own narrative cause like Chris they are very good at lying to themselves.

Lubipopi Lubipopi thanks so much! And I appreciate you for watching too! :)

Hes not even a man dont know what hes ment to be

Plenty of them walking this earth, Monsters desquised as humans

He makes me sick...he turned ugly on his wife and their girls. He's such a poseur!

Yeah....a demon

He is a devil.

Thank God that didn't happen.

@@harmony3279 What a stupid narc. Most narcs are smarter than that! Good thing he wasn't....but...the detectives and cops played him quite well. You have to be smarter than the old devil, for sure.

@Cathy Earnshaw No doubt he would have been eventually convicted, but not after a similar circus like we saw with Scott Peterson.

It would still happen but yeah, it's a lot harder to convict without a body.

@@damagecontrol7 The police would have followed the tracker on his work truck and found the wife’s body easily, because Chris didn’t allow himself enough time to dispose of it properly.

No, I just snuff the life out of them.

Anna Nonymous I've just seen my reply didn't go through, thanks so much for your wonderful support! :)

Well said she is amazing

Agreed! You should have vastly more views and subscribers than the countless vapid fortnite & toy unboxing channels. In a perfect world, anyhow...

shanny potts aw thank you so much! :)

Yes! Thank you so much!! We need you in our lives! Help us to spot these maniacs! 😱

@@livingfree7153 Aw thank you! :)

Live Abuse Free thank you 🥰

They cant read a room because it's always from their point of view. 🙄

Thank you S.G. G.! :)

ikonwlinda thank you! :) That's so good that you've been teaching yourself about narcissism and learning how to deal with a very tricky situation.

Great analogy

Yao Fu thank you so much! I did make a couple of videos about Chris Watts' parents, in the series 'Chris Watts: Guy who snapped or covert narcissist'. If you click on the channel you'll see them :)

I think he may have some sort of Borderline Personality Disorder as well.

Tonya Renee I think that would be Narcissistic Personality Disorder of the covert variety.

MmeDefarge (Expose NYC Meth Labs) the mirroring is interesting. He’s very flat no real personality of his own. It’s not often that the public gets a front row seat to something like this.

Crochet Happy I didn't notice them using it much, especially to the amazing frequency with which Kessinger and Chris used it.

Are you referring to Autism Spectrum Disorder? He may have that too but if he does, it's the least of his problems. I think people with autism generally have more of a personality. Watts is a bit of a chameleon. He can pick up on social and emotional cues and mimic them; he can fake it and get by under the radar. Autistic people have more of a problem with that.

Gypsy Girl Thanks so much! I'm glad you found it too, it's lovely to have you here! :) x

I think both the agents would be a little disappointed that they didn't get a full confession. They did a fantastic job to keep him talking for so many hours, without asking for a lawyer.

@@tessforbes8687 But they did ultimately get a full confession - Chris Watts admitted all three murders and as a result there was no need for a trial. CW only came out with the lie about Shanann killing the children, because he heard Detective Tammy say it first (she suggested it purely as a ruse to get him to give up the bodies). In another example of Chris Watts' inability to come up with an original thought, he seized on Tammy's narrative blaming Shanann for the child killings, as he saw it would absolve him of that heinous crime and possibly get him off a death sentence - he could even present himself in a heroic light, as a distraught husband who killed his evil wife in a rage at what she had done to the kids he loved. Unluckily for him, he couldn't get his story straight, even with Tammy's indirect 'help'. The first few times Tammy put the "Shanann killed the children" suggestion to him he hotly denied it, presumably because he knew she had not and he hadn't had time to work out the advantages to himself of this story taking root. When his brain finally cranked into gear and he asked for his father, so he could debut the Shanann-blaming story, he said she had strangled the girls when he knew he had smothered them and the autopsies would likely reveal that! Thank God covert narcissists like Chris Watts who think they are the smartest person in the room are very much mistaken!

@@glamdolly30 ahh... but I think a "full confession" would have included more details on what actually happened

“In the history of the earth” is a phrase I will never forget and plan on using whenever I know someone is telling me whopper of a lie!

Apache helicopter yes, if he'd said that or even the first part of what he said it might be plausible but he also says 'or in front of a train', it sounds very unnatural.

True, speaks only lies, disgusting person

Totally! Chris Watts' mother Cindy shows all the signs of being a major narcissist and she got her husband and daughter to support her constant campaign of sabotage against Shanann, the daughter-in-law she hated for usurping her in her son's 'affections'. His father Ronnie's response, in the police interrogation room, to the news his grandchildren are dead, lacked normal emotion. His overwhelming concern was to support his son, rubbing his back and eagerly leaping on his lie that Shanann had murdered the children. A clue to how the Watts family operates. It is obvious Cindy and Ronnie Watts would have loved it if their son's ugly slander about Shanann being the child killer, rather than him, were believed, regardless of the inconvenient truth that he killed them all! All the evidence suggests the Watts family are extremely toxic in their dysfunction. Their self-serving conduct, poor values and lack of integrity were the models Chris Watts grew up with. They contrast sharply with Shanann's loving family. That poor woman married into a bizarre, dangerous and sinister group of people and I feel when she did, her fate was sealed.

Lxxx MXXX - so very true! Bizarre and almost unbelievable!

glamdolly20 - agree with everything you said, especially the part where Ronnie was sitting in the interrogation room and rubbing Chris’s back. Like, what the EFF?!? I could not believe my eyes the first time I watched it!

Daily labor of love duties don’t feed his ego so he was bored in his family. I believe Shan’Ann was on to his narcissism early on in their marriage but hoped he’d mature.

@@glamdolly30 sounds like the royals

@Roberta Glass thanks so much! :)

I can totally relate. It's almost funny how transparent they are once you know what and who you're dealing with. Best of luck to you.

He expects me to go along with it too after the horrible things he has done. It’s a good feeling when you get that distance and you are no loner caught in the middle. It’s a very confusing scary disorder for normal people to deal with.

Sarah I had to 50/50 co parent with one for 5 years..I know exactly what you are dealing with ..grey rock. method works well,not sure if you know of it ?

@@growingandlearning164 what is it?

Yes, I try to use grey rock. I tried no contact but that’s impossible. Occasionally he does something so ridiculous that I have to say something. I try to stay non emotional but the other day I realised he is starting his smear campaign with new friends I have made at the school and I hit the roof. He was hoovering last week. I just wish he’d move to Australia so tiresome.

Treasure Trovel oh well said ! I agree with you on everything you wrote ,

The thing is: she still was delusional with her money spending etc..she wasnt stable either. And law of attraction...i dont think she was an empath.

roseyrosita101 thanks so much! :) Thank goodness you did escape that man! It's so good you have been learning about what exactly was going on with him too and freeing yourself from his world of lies.

ivana bašić - yes, it sounds so robotic and almost inhuman- just like we now know him to be.

Past tense..what a give away.

@@growingandlearning164 "I'm a person who would never hurt his wife" How in the world do you figure that is "past tense"??? That is NOT past tense...it is present...geez people keep "seeing" stuff that is not there!!

He telling on himself...all narcissists do

He is describing himself or the type of person he earlier told the detective he is/. Remember these are the people who will tell them he is a good guy/.friends, her friends, coworkers and everyone.

Jammi jam You forgot the five “likes” in his ten word sentence.

Jammi jam how dumb Chris Watts is to say that when all the evidence to the contrary is on his phone.

Alison Maclean it’s incredibly annoying isn’t it, his mistress is just as bad with the ‘like’ thing.

The detective knows he HAS cheated- no doubt about it.

It turns out that we mimic accents in order to assimilate ourselves with others and create empathy. We unintentionally mirror others when interacting by copying the other person’s gestures, body language, tone of voice and accent, in order to bond with others and feel safe in social interactions. This is called the Chameleon Effect and it’s embedded in human nature. There is even a part of the brain dedicated to copying this behavior. It’s a natural tendency that we don’t often realize we are doing and if you are a person who is more influenced by other’s behavior (a high perspective taker) then you are more likely to display the Chameleon Effect.

Donna K aw thanks so much for your support! :)

I don't think he did. I think he had absolutely no feelings at all for his family. His wife and children were no more than tools, like a hammer. He used them to make himself look like a good family man and when he no longer wanted to be a family man he disposed of his outdated tools.

I don’t know if this is true of a narcissist but if he can’t take the blame, then someone will. He’s discarding his family. But he don’t want to go out as the bad guy, the one who cheated. Shannan blames him for cheating. He can’t handle that so he kills her. It’s not his fault, it’s her fault. He can do no wrong. So he holds them in contempt. He blames the kids knowing that they will blame him. Just my thoughts. Wasn’t he getting mean with the girls the last week? And of course Shannan. So yeah. He was holding them in contempt. Towards the end he did despise them. Hey, is that the true Chris that people are saying is the bad Chris. The real Chris? The Chris without a mask? What does that mean? Are they really ugly nasty people? But they hide it?

@@bonnielee7134 Yes, I think Chris Watts absolutely despised his family, once he had decided they were an inconvenience to him. Shanann's parents witnessed his cold conduct towards her and the children, at a time when he must have decided he would soon kill them. They were catching glimpses of the real Chris Watts behind the 'nice guy' mask he had worn so convincingly all the time they had known him. The disrespect with which Watts treated their dead bodies reveals his hatred for them. The squalid 'graves' he chose were no accidental, collateral damage - they were a visual representation of how he felt about them. Another, excellent LIVE ABUSE FREE video discusses this. He threw Shanann face down into the dirt in a shallow grave, pregnant in just a T-shirt and g-string, her backside facing upwards. He crammed his little girls' corpses through tiny hatches (such a tight fit, that Bella's buttocks bore deep scratches, and some of Cece's blonde hair was ripped out and found clinging to the hatch door), listening out for the 'splash' as each tiny corpse hit the toxic crude oil within. Those TV interviews he gave, with the memories of killing his wife and children and callously dumping their dead bodies fresh in his mind. And he keeps breaking into smiles... the horrific images he must have been re-playing in his head as he parroted that dumb phrase: "I have absolutely no inclination where they are". He knew exactly where they were of course - he knew full well his wife and unborn son lay dead in a shallow grave, and his daughters each lay alone in their fume filled 'coffins', rotting in crude oil. Chris Watts never loved Shanann or the girls, as a sociopath he is incapable of love. But while he was getting sufficient rewards from them, he was happy to act out the role of devoted family man. It was a short-lived part - by the time his eldest child was 4 he was ready to move on with a new woman, and jettison his old lifestyle in the cruellest way imaginable. For an extreme sociopath and narcissist like Chris Watts, human beings are only there for what he can get from them. And when he has no further use for them, he regards them as literally disposable. He knew Shanann would outsmart him in a divorce - and crucially, that she'd shame him to their family and friends, revealing how he left her and the girls for a floozie when she was pregnant. Plus a divorce, with 18 years of child support for 3 kids, would be heavy on his pocket - murder would pay him out through their life insurance policies. Shanann, Bella, Cece and Nico died to save Chris Watts money, and to save his face. It's about the most horrific betrayal of people who loved and trusted him as you'll ever find. Chilling!

@@glamdolly30 absolutely spot on! Thanks for sharing your succinct thoughts.

It's Tori!!

Thanks Tori :)

@@LiveAbuseFree it was Tori that I was referring to when I said it was someone who i had so much respect for and really loved that had led me to find your channel because she had given you such glowing compliments!

@@PrimateProductions I think I missed that comment but that was very kind of her, thanks for letting me know! :)

She may be referring to a comment not on this thread. Tori suggested you in a video, good suggestion you both have different approaches, interesting to see another side to the coin, all the best from Ireland.

He even picked up and used her vocal fry.

Insightful!!

Laika Thunder Child - I didn’t notice that until you pointed it out - so true!

Laika Thunder Child yes! Well spotted, I didn't notice that! My feeling is that he was in a different mindset when talking about Shanann and assuming he didn't copy the word from her, it wouldn't be in his head when he thinks of her. When he isn't talking about her, he's back to the guy who's having an affair with NK and uses 'like'. And as he gets nervous he probably relies more on the persona that's been getting the most validation and that would be the one he uses with NK - you don't tend to get more validation than from someone who's falling in love with you.

@@LiveAbuseFree There is a Freudian slip aspect to his use of the word "like" - _as if_ - as opposed to the real thing - and I think it had become a tic. He must have had so much stress and his subconscious (that had picked up the new word from NK) popped "like" up all the time triggered by his defense of his "as if" act. Acting, talking LIKE a good father and husband. "like" an innocent man. Younger females have an annoying habit of using that word, but blue collar males (raised in NC) usually do not use it. It is odd for a man in his profession and age to use it. That he adopted _that_ mannerism of Nicole Kessinger. "like" encompasses his whole existence.

@@LiveAbuseFree I watched a few videos of Jessica Kent and Christina ? Randell (I think) both ex felons ( 2 and 3 years). When they talk about their experiences both stress that there are people you should not be friends with in prison (or one would become a target for assault by proxy) and that have it very hard. pedophiles, people that have harmed children. Even among women that code is observed. There are a lot of very angry people in prison just looking for a pretext to bully others. And as criminals they are looking for someone that is more vile than them. I think the idea of "fairness" / justice is important in that crowded enviroment (despite and because it being so brutal). Many want to bully and beat up others, but it is preferable if it is for a "just" cause. Christina said that the correctional officers do the same, that CO's and prisoners abuse and torture such vile criminals. That it comes out if someone is in prison for an especially vile crime, it always comes out. Chris Watts has hell to pay - even now in the prison he was transfered to for his safety (where they hold also many pedophiles) he will be at the bottom of the hierarchy.

Scarlett-belle thank you! :) x

Josette K thank you and a hug to you too! :)

Stay strong. You will soon learn what a fabulous and beautiful person you are. Love and hugs to you❤️🌺🐝🦋🌈🧸🐶

Spot on!