Christian Preacher Questioned by Intelligent Catholic 

If she was a knowledgeable Catholic they wouldn’t have used a clip of her.

Except that’s exactly what the church teaches. As a catholic myself the church teaches that anyone who loves God and does his will in accordance with his understanding of it will be saved. That means a Sikh who never understood Catholicism/christianity will go to heaven im pretty sure. However there is a lot of debate in the church about who can be saved.

@@greeneggsandham760 i would like to correct you little bit as far as i can.First of all,according to our(catholic) teachings there is no salvation outside the Catholic church.Second,no one can be saved without baptism,one grave sin and one will go to hell...I wrestle with these teachings,i cant take these things so easily.

Say Wallah, in every catholic church I've been to, she would be the most religious one.

@@trofaznimotor901 the thing I said is actually in the catechism. I can’t remember which paragraph but it 100% says that “Anyone who loves God and does his will in accordance with their understanding of it, will be saved”

What are you talking about?😮 You never met me,, Im a Protestant converted to Catholic and you make no sense.. Im sorry

Here’s what I mean, you can give all your money, have the best attendance at church, but what really matters is a person’s personal relationship with Jesus. You can do all the “things” but that’s not what makes us holy.

Where does the Bible say you have to have a "personal relationship with Jesus."

@@traddydad1997what are you on about

thats not a rule thats called our love for jesus, @@traddydad1997

What? Most of the things he’s saying is Protestant “position”

You don’t understand the positions very well, then. He clearly put forth the most prominent Protestant position. Many Catholics don’t very well understand what their own church teaches. The Catholic church rejects the position this man is putting forth.

As a Protestant I don't really look at Catholics all the differently. If you are a Trinitarian Christian, you are simply a Christian in my Book. Now you can debate Works+Faith, the Infallibility of Pope etc. However the Average Catholic and Average Protestant have a lot more in common than most people know

@@ForeignCapone -- It happens a lot. Listen closely to what she's saying. She's basically proclaiming a sort of new-agey "religion answers the big questions" philosophy; she proclaims a moral relativism "everyone needs their own answers and their own way to live". Christianity / Catholicism may not provide all the answer? Really? She proclaims a do-it-yourself religious relativism "I have this really humble Sikh friend". The only Catholic thing she said is that terrible sinners can come to repentance! On the other hand, Wretched lays it out: we're sinners, we easily fall prey to evil whims, we all fall short of God's standard; we must therefore repent, turn back to God and trust in him who redeemed us. That's pure Catholicism. Wretched misses a couple important things, like baptism as the biblically normative means of salvation; he speaks of grace but downplays the means of grace that Christ instituted within the life of the Church. He goes way off the rails into sketchy Protestant doctrines after this, but the point is made and her entire argument and worldview crumbles and has been refuted by sound Catholic doctrine coming from the mouth of an Evangelical (?). After that, it's all the (unbiblical and nontraditional) Solas and clearly this girl is utterly unequipped to speak Truth to Wretched. At the end, he does bring it back to relationship with God through relationship with Jesus, which is also 10000% Catholic. And the girl just doesn't get it. I know this is how a number of Protestant channels work. This is nothing but click bait; it's the equivalent of watching a professional MMA fighter beat up a twelve year old. You line up a bunch ignorant Catholics in Name Only and you shoot them down like ducks in a row. The entire video is disingenuous because Wretched isn't actually refuting a Catholic viewpoint, because the girl didn't provide a Catholic viewpoint for him to refute!

Not at all, he clearly does not agree with core catholic beliefs

Haha right 😅😂

thats what it teaches

Remember that the Protestant have 3 main Sola

>>WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??? Book, chapter and verse!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture. >>>> WHERE in the Bible does it say Christ taught the FIRST DAY of the WEEK that it was a REST day make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say Christ taught that the FIRST DAY of the WEEK BLESSED to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say Christ taught the FIRST DAY of the WEEK was BLESSED to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say Christ taught that the FIRST DAY of the WEEK was Named to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say Christ DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK by God as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??? >>>> *****What I don't understand is why NO Catholic will answer my questions as I ASK??????****

@@mitchellosmer1293 It very easy i can answer all of your question if you can answer just a few of my, just 2 or 3 questions So you base on WHAT ? to said that it must be in the bible for you to believe ???

That is what Catholic church means

Katholikos is Greek from universal which is what the word Catholic comes from Universalism is the Heresy that everyone is going to heaven

​@@emmetranous9682 As a Catholic, the Catholic Church does NOT teach that everyone goes to Heaven. "Outside the Church, there is no salvation" is actually a dogma of the Catholic Faith. This girl is misrepresenting Catholicism.

​@emmetranous9682 Only Catholics are in Jesus founded church, no protestant could ever come close to that.

But the belief that only Catholics can be saved (aka Feenyism) is also considered a heresy

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quote----Why can’t we all just simply be “Followers of Christ”?... unquote because NO Catholic is!!!

Yea that's what I was thinking

Catholics are the original Christians.

I believe that if you have your faith in God whether Catholic or Protestant you are saved. On one hand, I don’t condone Protestants who believe they can say the prayer and then do whatever they want and on the other hand, I don’t condone Catholics who try to add works to their salvation. Ephesians 2:8-9 says that you saved by faith apart from works of the law. James 2 talks about how faith apart from works of the law is dead faith. I think that the point is is that God wants you to love Him and be in intimate relationship with Him with Him being the ruler of your life. Faith in Him saves you but after that I think your faith is proven by how you live your life. Hope this helps. If anyone thinks otherwise lmk

@@robertamcdonald5734they’re both the original Christians, Catholicism & Christianity stem from the same branch bud! Some people didn’t agree with where the Catholic Church was going in 1054 A.D (which makes sense cause a lot of it is not in scripture) & they branched out

@@robertamcdonald5734anybody who believes in Jesus Christ are the original Christians, so what were Jesus’s Followers before Peter established a Catholic Church? They were nobody’s? No they were Christians🤦🏻‍♂️

roman catholic have a different religion than biblical christianity. they do not believe Jesus saves absolutely, but rather that they have to 'do their sacraments etc' in order that God won't send them to hell. christians believe that Jesus will save you if you believe in Him, then you receive the Holy Spirit, and from there, you transform to become more like Jesus over time. but Jesus is the one whose righteousness is given to us, not our own actions n sacraments etc.

James 2:24

@@franknwogu4911 you dont understand that chapter. 🫣

@@franknwogu4911 James 2:24 answered by Jesus John 6:27-29

You are not saved by faith alone. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. (1 Corinthians 13:2)@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Faith without charity/love you have nothing.

I agree, powerful message!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only time the Bible says “faith only” it is preceded by “not by.” In Matthew 25, works are the ONLY measure Jesus uses in his judgement. And you think it’s the Catholics who don’t know the Bible.

The man beside Christ on the cross wasn’t catholic. Nor was the centurion. Nor were the disabled that he healed. CHRIST is the only way, not through others, not through men, but through HIM.

You got your bible from the Catholic church . Catholics were here before the protestant rebellion of 1517.

​@@user-me4xo8nu7x Then why would Jesus establish his Church on earth through Peter and give the Apostles the power and duty to forgive sins?

@@traddydad1997Catholics say this but have no backing , they just say “ the traditions say so” . No records show peter ever established a church in Rome that had the hierarchy of the modern day Catholic Church

Faith without works is dead because it means that you aren't living in faith. Works do nothing to save you. It is because a Christian is saved that they live out that faith to follow as Jesus did by doing those works.

why do you think the Catholic Church isn’t the Church Christ set up may i ask?

Galatians 6:9 also supports this.

Not at all. You just misunderstand James.

@@ContendingEarnestly Yes tell me

Make a case for the man on the cross next to Jesus. He had faith without works since you know….he was being killed. Yet Jesus said he will be with him.

Yeah 😂

There’s a difference between asking alive believers for intercession and praying to the dead to pray for you.

⁠​⁠@@Jay-oj4hjJesus spoke to Moses and elijah and they were very much “dead”

@@praiseyeshua4088 Jesus is God. Never in the Bible does any believer ask a dead believer for intercession.

@@Jay-oj4hj People in heaven are very much alive Luke 20:36-38, John 11:25, John 6:51. Christ gives eternal life, therefore with or without a physical body we are all still alive in the body of Christ 1 Cor. 12:11-13.

​@@matt93974by definition those in heaven are alive, but as Paul writes in almost all his letters, christians will be the first to rise on the last day when the LAST trumpet will be played. So while it is true that right now there are a chosen few who are in heaven, like Moses, Elijah, the one who got crucified with Jesus and Jesus made him the promise that this man was going to heaven with Jesus the very same day, unless you want to call Paul a liar, then you must accept that 1. He calls saints those who are genuine followers of Christ and 2. That christians will ALSO have to stand before God on judgment day when the last trumpet will be played. This is again Paul's message.

Why does the Catholic Church have you pray to Mary?

Jesus may have started a church but that doesn't mean that church can't be spread throughout the world, right? Do you know about Martin Luther, a Catholic Monk, and his 95 Thesis? The Pope wanted Martin Luther burned alive at the stake for questioning the church, indulgences, and many more. The wanted to murder him just like they did William Tyndale. Martin Luther only wanted to reform the Catholic Church according to scripture and church fathers, not split it up.

​​@@blockaye1Because they made things up and if they told everyone to pray directly to Jesus, like the Bible says, they would not have been able to control the population by selling their purgatory coupons, confessions etc. Look it up. They kept the people from getting their hands on the bible and reading it for themselves. It is all written in historical documents. They burned people at the stake for translating the bible for the common people who couldn't read Latin. Only the wealthy 1% of the day could so it was their way of keeping control. Who can argue with you if they don't know what the Bible says for themselves? A Lamp in the Dark is a good documentary

​@blockaye1 We don't pray to Mary to worship her, we just ask her to pray for us. That's why we ask her to "pray for us sinners." Catholics only worship God. We love to pray and have many types of prayer. They aren't all about worship.

@@tb7871 the only way to pray is to pray to the Christ, Mary can not pray for you because she isn’t your way to god. Jesus is the way the truth and the life, no one can get to the father except through him. I’m not coming at you in any bad way. Just genuinely very confused by this catholic idea. I do believe Catholicism teaches Mary is holy, yet was she not born from a man and woman? Passing down the original sin? From my knowledge Mary isn’t born of a virgin, only Christ was. Therefor Mary would’ve sinned just by being born. Like you and me

Cliff went to seminary school, doesn’t matter what denomination he holds he’s a perfect person to ask, he knows the Bible better then anybody I’ve ever seen

Sexual degeneracy, 60% divorce rates, record high crime rates is because of lack of religion and objective morality.

Faith alone is exactly what Jesus taught, and unless you wish to call Paul a liar (Paul is the strongest pillar of sola fide) then you must understand the relationship between works and salvation: we are saved by faith through God's grace, and BECAUSE we are saved, we wish to live true according to the spiritual reality in us. If one will claim to be saved but not show it, that person is hardly saved, why? Not because her faith is not enough, but because her faith is superficial, empty, dead, because as Jesus said, a good tree can't produce bad fruits, and so a bad tree can't produce good fruits, so a person that is saved, has a spiritual reality inside of her that will want to be put into practice.

@@marcotosi1321 it’s unfortunately a misunderstanding of the last couple of centuries. Vatican 2 says that faith alone is false unless if what you mean by that is faith alone but no true faith is ever alone. But saying faith alone can mean in some denominations that all you need is faith. But the Bible clearly teaches that it’s faith working itself out in love. Because remember, God will separate the goats from the sheep. And whatever you didn’t or did do to the least of these, you did or didn’t do to him

@@DavidValle-ej8es As I said, SALVATION is achieved through faith, and it is manifested through works. A good tree gives good fruit, if you are saved, you will ACT like it, but salvation, as in, your ticket in heaven, comes only from faith, works are a CONSEQUENCE that are a mere proof of salvation, so therefore, salvation that has no proof does not exist: a "saved" person that does evil is not saved. A "saved" person that steals is not saved. There is no "you are saved but you don't practice righteousness", there's nothing like this, you are either saved and show it, or you're not

@@marcotosi1321 or you lose you’re salvation as it says in hebrews, you who have been severed from Christ. I do not disagree with you that it’s by faith. But faith is only the initial justification. As Abraham was justified by faith. He was also justified later in his works.

❤👐🏽so well said!!!!! Jesus Christ IS the ONLY way.

and yet, Michael came and asked Mary before she accepted in total obedience knowing she could be stoned to death. Jesus called his mother "woman" twice, once at the wedding of Cana, and then on the cross. I wonder, do you think "woman" was in reference to the "seed of the woman" from Genesis 3? Read the dialogue carefully from the wedding at Cana, there is much more there than you think.

Actually, you went from Christian to apostate.

@@TheCrusaderPubI disagree, I’ve been in a Catholic Church I didn’t feel a single godly presence, but when I walk into a Christian church I feel it in my soul immediately, there’s a reason Christian’s compare the Vatican to the Pharisee’s Jesus was so pissed at in the Bible

@@brandonhilton2730 oh cool, your emotions dictate reality. Good luck with that.

@@TheCrusaderPub believe what you can feel & what you can see, I can feel Jesus in a Christian Church, I can see Jesus in a Christian church, I can neither feel, nor see Jesus in a Catholic Church We as Christians are to believe nobody but Jesus, you as Catholics tend to believe the Pope/Bishops/Saints even when they contradict Jesus’s own words

@@brandonhilton2730 nope, you think your emotions are reality. If that’s the case, you have to grant the Hindu and the Muslim their emotions too. Also, you’re ignorant of both Jesus and Catholics. It’s possible you’re simply lying, but since you prefer letting your fuzzy feelings dictate what you think is real, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re ignorant on most things.

Very charitable of you

@@protoindoeuropeanall Protestants confess, we just do it directly to God himself, there need be no middle man because scripture says to confess to God himself You’ll come to find that all Protestant beliefs are backed by scriptures in the Bible Find me a single reference in the New Testament to robed men, high priests, wafers, holy water, confession to a priest, etc…you won’t because it didn’t exist Jesus is the way

@@brandonhilton2730 what makes you think I don’t do it directly to God or that I don’t feel spiritual conviction for my sins?

@@protoindoeuropean because the Catholic Church teaches confession through a priest The Bible teaches confession through Jesus the Catholic Church teaches there’s many people to pray too The Bible teaches there’s one person to pray too: Jesus

@@brandonhilton2730 are you Catholic?

24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. James 2:24 Who is James addressing? James 1:1 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. Jesus tells you in John 6:27-29 Eph 2:1-10 is pretty clear on how you are saved and what you need not do .!! Verse 9 and why we were created verse 10 . No living faith is devoid of works but any works has nothing to do with gaining salvation which is a gift , never to be taken away.

@@brucewmclaughlin9072that’s wild, I’ve been to both & I haven’t felt any Godly presence in a Catholic Chuch, but I can feel Jesus in my soul the second I walk into a Protestant Church

The book of Mormon has old testament scriptures in it and we know that the book of Mormon denies the Lord completely making Him the brother of lucifer and not God. So does a verse of old testament make a difference in what you believe about scripture? When we look at the 7 books do we find 100% truth ? Do we find some errors in dates of battles? Do we find a consistent doctrinal trail that does not conflict with old or new testament scriptures? Jesus gave us the gospel and He quoted the books of the old testament. Jesus gave us the example of going to scripture for our truth and the apostles carried on with the tradition of quoting scripture not man made beliefs. Jesus even quoted the septuagint. For whatever whacky reason, of all books these are the ones the Protestants decided to remove… ones used and referred to by Christ himself. maybe you can show us all where Jesus got the demon possessed to walk through the smoke from burning fish entrails to rid them of demons like Tobit 6 tells you? When Jesus anointed the blind person did He use the gall bladder of a fish to do so? Tobit 6 makes that claim as well. When Jesus died on the cross for all of our sins 1 John 2:1,2 why did He not just tell us that Tobit 12 was the truth and salvation and eternal life could be bought ? There is not one verse that tells you to pray for the dead to attain righteousness and Jesus never quoted 2 Maccabee's12: to prove that the unrepentant could be made righteous after they pass on . Luke 16:19-31 is Jesus showing that once you die there is no hope for the unrepentant unlike what Judas believes in 2 Maccabee's 12. Who is right? : it’s not really a “scripture alone” movement and more of a “_my_ interpretation of the scripture alone” movement, hence all the division Sola Scriptura is saying that The New Testament is the Life and Teachings of Jesus and the original Apostles and the First Churches.. Sola Scriptura just points to THEM ,not just the Holy Spirit inspired Words, but the Holy Spirit inspired Authors/leaders and their Proven Authority as the true source to prove or test or Disprove future so called 'leaders' or future claims and teachings. Sola Scriptura means going all the way back directly to Jesus, John, Paul, James, Peter, Mark, Luke, Matthew, Moses, David, etc.. and going back to Their Lives, and Their preserved written teachings and traditions. Sola scriptura skips the questionable 'middle-men'.... thousands of years of Post New Testament groups and so called 'leaders' and takes you back to the first Source Leaders that were confirmed and are not questionable. This is the best way. Skip Luther and Skip the Vatican and just Learn the Truth Directly from Moses, David, Jesus, John, Paul, James, Peter, Etc... Please read the whole New Testament... you will find no popes, no cathedrals, no Statues, no Marian dogmas, no prayers to dead saints, No Vatican, No wafers, No fancy Robes, No Christian thrones. Please Follow Jesus and Him Alone.

And to my dearly “catholic” friend: you need to form yourself more because you can also be mistaking in your beliefs about what the church teaches about Jesus commands. Don’t just stand in front of a microphone and discuss your own ideals instead of debating the truth. Get some formation to instruct others. “A blind can not guide another blind”. Thank you.

John 5:24 ”“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.“

@@user-vo4on3qk9j Mt. 7. 17-23 21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?’ 23 Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.’ Mt 16. 18 And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (This includes all of those that go against Gods commands thru His Only Catholic Apostolic Church) Jn 15 18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. 23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. 25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause. 26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning. 1 Timothy 3 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. 16 Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit,was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory. Jn. 21. 15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”“Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.” 16 Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.” 17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my sheep. Jn 10 1 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” 6 Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them. 2 Peter 2 (Saint Peter the first pope) 1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. 4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)- 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish. 13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you. 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed-an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer, who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey-an animal without speech-who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness. 17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity-for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”

You know exactly where it says "by grace alone you are saved, not by works" but you can cherry pick all you want. Ephesians 2:8-9 8 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast." When the spirit of Christ is in you, the tree will bear fruit (good works).

@@ljshoreslokalKEEP READING TO: Ephesians 2-10 10 For we are God’s work, created in Christ Jesus TO DO GOOD WORKS, which God prepared in advance FOR US TO DO. (to practice) (Not our own merely “behavioral, mundane and hypocritical works” like Pharisees did. we were saved by Christ and it was a gift of God. but it DOES say about Jesus sanctifying works he teaches us) You must know: “Faith of itself, if it does not have works is DEAD” (Here is the definition of faith, all Bible) James 2 14 “What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?j 17 So also faith of itself, IF IT DOES NOT have works, is dead.” 18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith rapart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe-and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”-and he was called a friend of God. 24 You see that a person is JUSTIFIED by WORKS AND NOT BY FAITH ALONE. 25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also FAITH APART FROM WORKS IS DEAD.” 1 John 3 “7 Little children, let no one DECEIVE (cheat) you. He who PREACTICES righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. 10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: WHOEVER DOES NOT PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. Love One Another 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother's righteous. 13 Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death. 15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 16 By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the friends. 17 But whoever has this world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and SHUTS UP his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him? 18 My little children, LET US NOT LOVE IN WORD OR IN TONGUE, but in ACTION and in truth. 19 And by this we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him. “CHERRY PICK”? NOT MY BROTHER take it all or leave it.

Let us look briefly at the writings of the early Church. What again rings out clearly is the Church Jesus founded is “Apostolic”- that its popes, bishops, priests and deacons have succeeded in an unbroken line right from the Apostles. And according to these early church fathers, this “apostolicity” is a hallmark of the true Church. So apostolic succession and how do you explain the bad ungodly popes in history and for that matter Pope Francis now who contends that God created evolution? For example, in 110 AD, St. Ignatius, the martyred Bishop of Antioch and disciple of St. John the Apostle, would write, apart from bishops, priests and deacons, “There is nothing that can be called a Church”! Eph 2:19-22 points out that Jesus is the church and all believers in Christ are the church. Without bishops ,priests, and deacons Jesus will still be there and it is Jesus we are to listen too and believe in. This is a stunner if you attend a church without validly ordained bishops and priests - which is essentially all Christian denominations apart from the Catholic Church and her divided Eastern Orthodox members. Odd that there is no reference in scripture to point out validly ordained bishops and priests ? Not one church in scripture is ever named nor is there any central governing body that tells all the nameless churches what to believe until 385 AD when the roman Catholic church gets established. In comes doctrines and beliefs not found in contextual scripture and an authoritarian church group that tells the common believer what to believe. In 250 AD the great St. Cyprian, the martyred Bishop of Carthage, would summarize our question perfectly: “It is on him [Peter] that he [Jesus] builds the church. If a man … deserts the Chair of Peter upon whom the church was built, has he still confidence that he is in the church?” So the church is built on a man named Peter? I will trust in Christ the author and finisher of our faith rather than on a man .The church is built on Christ and not a mortal.

My guy, he founded a church to TEACH the Bible🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

But which "Bible"?

"Jesus replied: “'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with. ... And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself." ~ Matt 22:26-40 Now Jesus concludes by saying that all the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commands. In other words, the entire law and all the prophecies from God are designed, ultimately, to motivate and enforce love for God and love for other people. And how do you love God? By living the life God chose for you to live which is to cause goodness to increase & evil to decrease. And this is something anyone can do regardless of race, color or creed

*Regardless what these people say, Protestantism is wrong on many issues.* The term 'Protestant' casts a pretty wide net. There are a number of factions/denominations regarded as protestant that aren't even Christian. So its a false premise. *And then after embracing all it's evil's you're gonna tell me you're saved?* You want to have a conversation about the evils of someones faith? Wanna go down that road? I guarantee the rcc has a much longer list of evil than any other religion. *Not the least of which being that Jesus founded a church NOT a Bible.* Is that supposed to be an 'evil'? Not sure what youre point is. Who says Jesus founded a bible? *So Sola Scritura is wrong.* You must be thinking sola scriptura. Catholics always bring up sola scriptura as though its some kind of boogie man they can attack when there isn't anything else to say. Holding Gods holy word as our highest and final authority is evil in your sight? *And Jesus founded a church NOT jyst a set if beliefs, which is what protestantism is.* Again, youre railing against a phantom. Jesus did establish a church, the ekklesia. Born again believers are part of the ekklesia, which i am. And catholicism is a set of beliefs too right? Just pick up a ccc or read Trent or some papal document. Its all beliefs. *And Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom to st Peter & the apostles NOT to Luther and his followers.* You clearly do not understand what the keys are. Every born again believer who faithfully preaches the gospel have the keys. If someone preaches a false gospel, they do not possess the keys. The rcc has a false gospel. *But of course non-catholics can be saved.* Anyone can be saved, even catholics, and the pope.

John 6:63--The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you-they are full of the Spirit and life.

He who is without sin, be first to the cast stone

For a righteous man falls seven times and rises again with the wicked stumble in time of disaster. -Proverbs 24 16. The righteous will fall from sin time to time, but the important thing is repenting and getting back up, also, we have Jesus, who is the high priest, for us, sitting in heaven interceding for our sins Hebrew, 7:25

@@Joshyoungministies Thanks for the random quote.

@@Joshyoungministies Why do we need to get back up, as it seems you say you do not lose your righteousness?

Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture

Even cliffs

I disagree kindly. Matthew 16:18 Jesus says He is the foundation of the church.

@@LaJuera25 Sure. And what else does he say later and throughout the Gospel that spell the Catholic Church? Let’s first turn to Jesus. His words leave no room for doubt. In Mt 7:24-25, Jesus gives the parable of the wise builder who built his house on rock, and whose house would never fall, no matter the storms that would come. Now fast-forward a few chapters to Mt 16:16-19, where Jesus says, “You are Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” Now recall that St. Paul calls the church “the household of God” (1 Tim 3:15). Putting this all together, we have Jesus, the wisest of builders, building his house, his church, on rock, and promising the gates of hell would not prevail against it. How could this church possibly fall with a promise like that? St. Paul then makes the powerful statement that the church is “the pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim 3:15). Again, how could such a church fall away from the truth, as some contend? Such an event would directly contradict Scripture. In Luke 10:16, Jesus stunningly tells the Apostles “he who hears you hears Me,” and he will be with them “always, until the end of the age” [Mt 28:20]. At the Last Supper, Jesus further promises, “the Father … will give you another advocate to be with you always, the spirit of truth … he will guide you into all the truth” (Jn 14:14-17). Again, the emphasis is on truth, but now guarded by the Holy Spirit and combined with a promise Jesus and the Holy Spirit will never leave them. Also recall Jesus makes these promises to the Apostles. In Eph 2:20 (and Rev 21:14), it is made clear the Apostles are the foundation of the Church - “the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles.” This is powerful confirmation of the perpetual, divine assurance Jesus gives to his apostolic Church - the Catholic Church. Let us look briefly at the writings of the early Church. What again rings out clearly is the Church Jesus founded is “Apostolic”- that its popes, bishops, priests and deacons have succeeded in an unbroken line right from the Apostles. And according to these early church fathers, this “apostolicity” is a hallmark of the true Church. For example, in 110 AD, St. Ignatius, the martyred Bishop of Antioch and disciple of St. John the Apostle, would write, apart from bishops, priests and deacons, “There is nothing that can be called a Church”! This is a stunner if you attend a church without validly ordained bishops and priests - which is essentially all Christian denominations apart from the Catholic Church and her divided Eastern Orthodox members.

@@LaJuera25 Sure. Read more. Let’s first turn to Jesus. His words leave no room for doubt. In Mt 7:24-25, Jesus gives the parable of the wise builder who built his house on rock, and whose house would never fall, no matter the storms that would come. Now fast-forward a few chapters to Mt 16:16-19, where Jesus says, “You are Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” Now recall that St. Paul calls the church “the household of God” (1 Tim 3:15). Putting this all together, we have Jesus, the wisest of builders, building his house, his church, on rock, and promising the gates of hell would not prevail against it. How could this church possibly fall with a promise like that? St. Paul then makes the powerful statement that the church is “the pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim 3:15). Again, how could such a church fall away from the truth, as some contend? Such an event would directly contradict Scripture. In Luke 10:16, Jesus stunningly tells the Apostles “he who hears you hears Me,” and he will be with them “always, until the end of the age” [Mt 28:20]. At the Last Supper, Jesus further promises, “the Father … will give you another advocate to be with you always, the spirit of truth … he will guide you into all the truth” (Jn 14:14-17). Again, the emphasis is on truth, but now guarded by the Holy Spirit and combined with a promise Jesus and the Holy Spirit will never leave them. Also recall Jesus makes these promises to the Apostles. In Eph 2:20 (and Rev 21:14), it is made clear the Apostles are the foundation of the Church - “the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles.” This is powerful confirmation of the perpetual, divine assurance Jesus gives to his apostolic Church - the Catholic Church. Let us look briefly at the writings of the early Church. What again rings out clearly is the Church Jesus founded is “Apostolic”- that its popes, bishops, priests and deacons have succeeded in an unbroken line right from the Apostles. And according to these early church fathers, this “apostolicity” is a hallmark of the true Church. For example, in 110 AD, St. Ignatius, the martyred Bishop of Antioch and disciple of St. John the Apostle, would write, apart from bishops, priests and deacons, “There is nothing that can be called a Church”! This is a stunner if you attend a church without validly ordained bishops and priests - which is essentially all Christian denominations apart from the Catholic Church and her divided Eastern Orthodox members. In 250 AD the great St. Cyprian, the martyred Bishop of Carthage, would summarize our question perfectly: “It is on him [Peter] that he [Jesus] builds the church. If a man … deserts the Chair of Peter upon whom the church was built, has he still confidence that he is in the church?”

@@LaJuera25 *Let’s first turn to Jesus. His words leave no room for doubt. In Mt 7:24-25, Jesus gives the parable of the wise builder who built his house on rock, and whose house would never fall, no matter the storms that would come. Now fast-forward a few chapters to Mt 16:16-19, where Jesus says, “You are Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” Now recall that St. Paul calls the church “the household of God” (1 Tim 3:15). Putting this all together, we have Jesus, the wisest of builders, building his house, his church, on rock, and promising the gates of hell would not prevail against it. How could this church possibly fall with a promise like that? St. Paul then makes the powerful statement that the church is “the pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim 3:15). Again, how could such a church fall away from the truth, as some contend? Such an event would directly contradict Scripture. In Luke 10:16, Jesus stunningly tells the Apostles “he who hears you hears Me,” and he will be with them “always, until the end of the age” [Mt 28:20]. At the Last Supper, Jesus further promises, “the Father … will give you another advocate to be with you always, the spirit of truth … he will guide you into all the truth” (Jn 14:14-17). Again, the emphasis is on truth, but now guarded by the Holy Spirit and combined with a promise Jesus and the Holy Spirit will never leave them. Also recall Jesus makes these promises to the Apostles. In Eph 2:20 (and Rev 21:14), it is made clear the Apostles are the foundation of the Church - “the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles.” This is powerful confirmation of the perpetual, divine assurance Jesus gives to his apostolic Church - the Catholic Church. Let us look briefly at the writings of the early Church. What again rings out clearly is the Church Jesus founded is “Apostolic”- that its popes, bishops, priests and deacons have succeeded in an unbroken line right from the Apostles. And according to these early church fathers, this “apostolicity” is a hallmark of the true Church. For example, in 110 AD, St. Ignatius, the martyred Bishop of Antioch and disciple of St. John the Apostle, would write, apart from bishops, priests and deacons, “There is nothing that can be called a Church”! This is a stunner if you attend a church without validly ordained bishops and priests - which is essentially all Christian denominations apart from the Catholic Church and her divided Eastern Orthodox members. In 250 AD the great St. Cyprian, the martyred Bishop of Carthage, would summarize our question perfectly: “It is on him [Peter] that he [Jesus] builds the church. If a man … deserts the Chair of Peter upon whom the church was built, has he still confidence that he is in the church?”*

Let’s first turn to Jesus. His words leave no room for doubt. In Mt 7:24-25, Jesus gives the parable of the wise builder who built his house on rock, and whose house would never fall, no matter the storms that would come. Now fast-forward a few chapters to Mt 16:16-19, where Jesus says, “You are Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” Now recall that St. Paul calls the church “the household of God” (1 Tim 3:15). Putting this all together, we have Jesus, the wisest of builders, building his house, his church, on rock, and promising the gates of hell would not prevail against it. How could this church possibly fall with a promise like that? St. Paul then makes the powerful statement that the church is “the pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim 3:15). Again, how could such a church fall away from the truth, as some contend? Such an event would directly contradict Scripture. In Luke 10:16, Jesus stunningly tells the Apostles “he who hears you hears Me,” and he will be with them “always, until the end of the age” [Mt 28:20]. At the Last Supper, Jesus further promises, “the Father … will give you another advocate to be with you always, the spirit of truth … he will guide you into all the truth” (Jn 14:14-17). Again, the emphasis is on truth, but now guarded by the Holy Spirit and combined with a promise Jesus and the Holy Spirit will never leave them. Also recall Jesus makes these promises to the Apostles. In Eph 2:20 (and Rev 21:14), it is made clear the Apostles are the foundation of the Church - “the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles.” This is powerful confirmation of the perpetual, divine assurance Jesus gives to his apostolic Church - the Catholic Church. Let us look briefly at the writings of the early Church. What again rings out clearly is the Church Jesus founded is “Apostolic”- that its popes, bishops, priests and deacons have succeeded in an unbroken line right from the Apostles. And according to these early church fathers, this “apostolicity” is a hallmark of the true Church. For example, in 110 AD, St. Ignatius, the martyred Bishop of Antioch and disciple of St. John the Apostle, would write, apart from bishops, priests and deacons, “There is nothing that can be called a Church”! This is a stunner if you attend a church without validly ordained bishops and priests - which is essentially all Christian denominations apart from the Catholic Church and her divided Eastern Orthodox members. In 250 AD the great St. Cyprian, the martyred Bishop of Carthage, would summarize our question perfectly: “It is on him [Peter] that he [Jesus] builds the church. If a man … deserts the Chair of Peter upon whom the church was built, has he still confidence that he is in the church?”

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