You know, their are actually fanfiction writers out their that are not only talented, but have gone through the trouble of painstakingly crafting their own intricate fan universes, despite the fact that they'll most likely never see a cent for their hard work. Just felt like bringing that up.
If he had accepted this role, it would've been the worst thing any Sons of Anarchy cast member had been a part of, narrowly defeating Kim Coates in Battlefield Earth.
+TigerTrollUSA I still stand by something I once said; I'd only watch the movie if Gilbert Gottfried played Christian Grey, George Takei played Ana Steele, and David Tennant played the Inner Goddess and got a musical number.
Gives more credence to the whole "thinks like an abuse victim" point he's trying to make. Seriously, Bella had slightly more working brain cells than Ana.
+Cinematic Excrement As you said this is basically about a victim and her abuser, the way he goes about it is a step by step guide to cults. You should watch The Film Theorists episodes about this movie/book. It's is a channel ran by Matthew Patrick who also does Game Theory.
+Cinematic Excrement I avoided the hell outta this movie the instant it came out, and avoided the books. I'll never understand what fans of this book see in it, and I sure as hell don't wish to find out.
+Cinematic Excrement I avoided this piece of sh** from the moment I heard about it. Twilight was bad enough and it's hard to believe that this is actually worse. I cannot believe I live in a world where this is allowed to exist. Just how horribly the book was written is not even funny in a terrible way. It just makes me weep for humanity and angry at the fact that a bunch of mom's made this mess both a bestseller and a box office hit and we're getting f***ing sequels because of it!!! Good f***ing job, world!!!
"Or maybe he realized he was in such terrible movie and couldn't be bothered to give a shit" This. Actualy, both he and Dakota Dohnson almost literally said, that the movie is complete crap.
Long before Sean released his Bottom 10 of 2015 films upload in preparation, I clicked on a link someone left in the comment section of FilmMasterAdam's Fifty Shades review where Dakota and the male lead gave their unpleasant experiences of the filming in an interview. Even the Christian Grey actor admitted he felt dirty after having to visit a real sex dungeon in preparation for the movie. So yeah, Robert Pattinson thinks Stephanie Meyer is nuts and hates Twilight and the Christian Grey actor feels violated after seeing a real sex dungeon to prepare for his role. These movies do share similarities a lot!
If you think this movie is messed up, try watching the movie "Old-Fashioned". It was said to be the conservative Christian version of 50 Shades of Gray (if that makes any sense at all).
Apparently, Kim Basinger has signed on for the sequel as Grey's former lover. I feel so bad for her. I knew that a relationship with Batman has unhealthy consequences, but GODDAMN!
jbvader721 Fifty Shades really really wanted to be 9 1/2 weeks but lacked, likable leads with any sembience of chemistry, creative and genuinely erotic sex scenes, memorable and iconic moments, Kim Basinger, and competent director.
Ok. What the fuck? SO many good Fanfics out there written by talented young writers. Protectors Pride, Poison Pen, literally everything Cywscross has ever written. And THIS gets a movie?! Wow. Just. Wow.
@@RHatcherMD She changed some names to avoid copyright. But basically every character has an easily identified Twilight equivalent. Its Twilight Fanfiction. First word to last.
@@TheGuardingDark_ By That Logic, The Lion King would be 'Hamlet fanfiction'. Ripping off something, taking heavy inspiration from it, and writing a story set in the same universe are two very different things.
I think your instincts are right about this being a victim/abuser relationship, because that was the vibe I got from this too. Christian Grey always struck me as a sexual sadist instead of a guy with a fetish.
THat's what a sexual sadist is tho. What he is, is a damaged person with a need to inflict harm on others, and try to hide it behind 'oh but it is BDSM!' and misses that mark by a mile.
Yeah, you’re description of a D/s dynamic isn’t too far off the mark. I think it’s slightly oversimplified - there’s an exchange of control and the Dominant has as much power to stop a scene as a submissive if they become uncomfortable- but yes, the submissive does have actual control even when it doesn’t seem like they do. I’d also like to point out that Fifty Shades ignores aftercare completely. Aftercare is basically the part after a scene where the Dominant reassures the submissive and comforts them after whatever intense thing happened, and helps bring them both down from the high of the scene. It can also be just as important for the Dominant because it’s likely they just did things that would be considered assault outside a scene and that can take an emotional toll on the Dominant - making sure their sub is ok can be vital in soothing any anxieties they might have. Not to mention people in D/s or sadomasochistic relationships get off in the exchange of control and inflicting/receiving pain while Ana clearly never enjoys either and this book makes me so very angry as a person into this kind of shit. Basically BDSM is like boxing - when both people agree to it, it’s fine, but when only one person is into it it’s assault, and you should probably make sure everyone gets some tlc and first aid after.
When you said that you read the book I said, "Oh Lord have mercy." I tried reading that atrocious crapsterpiece and could only stomach 6 chapters. The grammatical errors were too much to continue as well as the plot moving at a snail's pace in frozen molasses. I never saw the movie and I'm not going to; it was more fun watching you tear it up.
4:18-4:20 "Oh, the e-mail rolls along, on the river..." "Dear Strong Bad, "My boss wants me to submit to BDSM, but my inner goddess says no. What should I do?" "Crapfully yours, Ana in Seattle." "Well, Anana Daiquiri, maybe your e-mails should have a not-submitting to stupid metaphors! As for your boss, as my main man Mancuso would say, 'Whatever makes the cold ones flow.' So keep sending me your e-mails, and I will continue to show you how you're doing it wrong." "Preeow."
Well, then don't shelter your daughters: the main character not knowing what a buttplug is in her twenty something and not knowing how to be confident in herself is a major, potentential set back...
THANK YOU. No reviewer I follow has pointed out the blatant abusive nature of their relationship and how it isn’t at all what a real life BDSM relationship is like. BDSM is all about consent. Safe words, aftercare, discussing boundaries, having a time and place for the BDSM activity but letting the other person live their life on their own how they want. This became a best seller because it is just as much a “crazy, exotic sexual fantasy” as it is a lifestyle fantasy. Women who want not only a man who might actually sexually please her in a different way, but also a life of luxury and adventure. Not disparaging these women at all, it’s a fantasy. Not a well written or even a very good fantasy, but a fantasy. It’s like how young girls read books with a Katniss type lead. It’s an escape from the boring life we know. It’s why young girls loved Twilight. You go from being a normal, probably outcast, girl to suddenly becoming the most important girl in the world who is desired by these beautiful rich mysterious men.
So let me get this straight using two examples: Two David Fincher films, _Gone_ _Girl_ and _The_ _Girl_ _with_ _the_ _Dragon_ _Tattoo_, both of which are based on bestselling novels, both make over $369 million and $232 million at the global box office, whilst _Fifty_ _Shades_ _of_ _Grey_ makes *$571* *million*??!! What has happened to this world?
I say give it a decade or two and both _Gone Girl_ and _The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo_ will be remembered as cinematic classics while _Fifty Shades of Grey_ will just be remembered as Showgirls 2.0 (except not as good).
10:41 People have pointed out if he were unattractive and poor this movie/book would be an episode of Criminal Minds or possibly CSI (especially after that serial killer line)
Dakota Johnson herself has said that she would get drunk just to get through the sex scenes. And I can't say I blame her. Especially considering what a clusterf*** shooting these "movies" were.
Just remember; this(and twilight for that matter) book served as a fantasy for millions of women. Yes, women are sexually/emotionally both much simpler and much more complicated than either most men or even women truthfully realize. I wouldn’t advise men to use Fifty Shades as ANY sort of seduction handbook because while certain women may subconsciously desire certain aspects of this fantasy, nothing here corresponds to any sort of normal male/female relationships and the book(s) shouldn’t be looked to as an example. I’d also say, as most have noted, these books don’t represent BDSM. Though I’m not personally familiar, I’ve been told the author basically got the whole concept and execution wrong.
Holy shit, the female authors are basing Bella & Anna on themselves? Because they were the Plain Janes in real life that never got the hot guy? So they lash out by writing about plain girls getting the hot, powerful rich cool guy who is basically, controlling, emo, angst, stalker am I missing anything?
@@tristanhartup4936 thanks what Meyers & James didn't count on was the backlash their books & characters were going to get. They're basically saying it's ok to be like Bella & Anna "Um no it's not these two women were in abusive relationship." James even called Fifty Shades of love story no it's not a love story it's a shit story written by a woman who while not having the looks felt she should've been entitled to a hot guy with money.
Probably that but also Bella/Anna are audience/reader surrogates. They're women with no personalities so YOU can insert yourself into the story. YOU are now the girl every guy wants and end up with an incredible handsome and wealthy man.
@@EvanSol919 Bella is in fact selfish egocentric and ungrateful in the books. At difference with Anastasia who truly is a white page. E.L James only made Christian Grey more annoying than Edward
+DeAndre West I was thinking more on the lines of Buffalo Bill but I get the feeling that discount Edward (I refuse to call him Christian Grey for this very reason) doesn't skin his victims after killing them and wears their skins in private.
Credit where it's due, "Anna's" inner monologue made the book the success it was. I wondered how E.L. James would make the material palatable to a wide audience. After reading it I knew; it's just romance novel wish fulfillment with some solid kink.
Super duper years late to watching this, but I like your emphasis on the comparison between this and Twilight. Was Twilight original? No. Was it good? No. Did Meyer make an honest attempt at a story, world building and character development with only inspiration to guide her? Yes. EL James couldn't even attempt THAT.
EJ James stole the 50 shades open source fan fiction, did some clunky editing, then published it as if she wrote the whole thing herself. So yes, she is a asshat.
It always amazed me that Ana can consciously Communicate with her subconscious and that it has glasses and face and body..On another note Edward had a good reason to warn Bella off. He was a frigging vampire and a)vampires are meant to be secret so her knowing puts her in danger b) as much as I rolled my eyes at the lion/lamb metaphor it's not exactly wrong. Vampires feed off human blood, Mayer kept that part of the myth, so humans are their prey of sorts. Vampire will always desire blood and might accidentally hurt their human lover if they're not careful. But once you make them human it sort loses that element. Yeah, Christian is a sociopath, but he doesn't seem aware of that too much. He's not warrning Bella off from him because he's a creep, but because he's into BDSM and it apparently has to be such a secret(again, with vampires it made sense. In most books and works that involve magic and such there is secrecy involved) for god knows what reason. It's just a kink, I don't think it would affect Christian's career if people knew. I mean tabloids are writing about celebrity and rich people sex lives quite often and most people just don't care.
15:51 people seem to mix up explanation/justification with excuse, just because you have a reason to do something fucked up does not make it okay that you're doing it, it's probably still fucked up
If you think Fifty Shades was bad, watch Fifty Shades Darker. I just watched it and I was screaming in horror and yelling "What the hell?!" Does Anna not have a brain or self respect?!
Jack Harrington, Nick Canino, Jeremy Jahns, Chris Stuckmann, FilmMasterAdam, and TheFlickPick have this as their number one worst film of the year also. Sean
+Justin Williams And really, why wouldn't they? It's demeaning towards women, gives BDSM a bad name and has one of the most unlikable male characters since Edward Cullen from Twilight.
+Matthew Cool To be fair, like any other genre, 90% of all romance is crap. It also so happens that quality and popularity don't always overlap. That's not to say you can't dislike a genre, though; I don't like romance either. I prefer action-oriented stuff or horror.
So, about the BDSM: you are 100% correct about the true relationship. My partner is also my Dom and 75% of the time we are like every other couple. We fight, talk about bills, and cuddle. You hit the nail in the head when you said it was a master/slave relationship. Slaves lose more of themselves and normally are abused. Three basic types of subs exist: bedroom, 24/7 (which is what I am) and slaves. I changed the rules often (every 6 months or so) as I gain and lose trust. I've been with my dominate for 3 years now, you can not have a successful relationship without that. Something you didn't touch on is that some d/s couples that never have sex. They are "non fluid bonded" there is normally is no kissing or touching of genitals of any kind in these relationships. Normally they are good friends whose romantic partners don't like the idea of BDSM. Another item that neither you nor the movie touched on is aftercare. That is the main reason behind d/s it helps build trust and love.
+KidSnivy69 I agree. I have been reading the book (lord help me) and I started to break it down and worked out it sounds like a 15 year old virgin who has read way too much Cosmo. I have to constantly correct people who tell me what BDSM is who have only read this book and that's all the reference they have. :/ my master and I find it annoying because people who base their BDSM relationships around this book think he is my whole world and all I do is serve him.
"9 1/2 Weeks" did this plot too. And that was back in 1986. Not to mention, Mickey Rourke's character also has "Grey" as his last name (well, it's spelled with an "a" instead of an "e" but semantics). And Kim Basinger's character walks away in the end and STAYS away.
that's reassuring at least, despite not knowing and not really want to know too much about what 'BDSM' is......er to keep it short, i can't handle everything 'Adult' only somethings, if you like that stuff, that's fine. it's just again there's some 'adult stuff' i genuinely can't handle is all😅
The movie can be fun if you watch it with friends and make jokes about it Fun fact: Before the screening, me and my friends got searched, we at first thoughit was for smuggled snacks but they found them and didn't even bat an eye, it was about the half of the fil when it hit me: they weren't looking for candy, they were searching for dildos or something like that
You are completely correct: that contract is not legally enforceable. In fact, if anything, it would act as evidence against Grey in a court of law -- in many places in the west, BDSM is still not technically legal even if it is rarely prosecuted. Further, even though contracts are sometimes used in BDSM, it is /never/ the case that those contracts are intended to be legally binding; rather, they serve one of two purposes: to explicitly state limits and obligations of both parties (so no "but I never said x!"), or to add to the illusion. Or both. But anyone genuinely trying to convince you that a BDSM contract is a legal document you are signing is trying to take advantage of you.
As a fanfiction writer myself, I am appalled that this...THING is so successful! I can and do write better than this! Good fanfic authors are few and far between, but they are out there. Maybe I should write a book about what goes on inside a good fanfic author's head.
Apparently the director originally attached wanted to make a dark, realistic version, showing how crazy the protagonist was. It got shot down and the director was booted.
i think the "expression" on grey's face was a directorial mandate. Stephenie Meyer personally asked Pattinson to be completely emotionless, because "when you smile you look creepy". So i bet EL James let out her hormones and likes to see emotionless men too.
This book and story is a sad case of a socially-awkward, unattractive woman wanting to be desired by desirable men. That's what it boils down to in the end.
I'm just gonna say congratulations on the 32 subscribers gained between when you took **this** --> 1:15 screenshot and when I watched the video. And yeah, I paused and read the screen. There could have been an easter egg for all I knew! People have done that before!
Kye Dysarthria hell-_IF it REALLY was_ Deadpool,then he ( _or in this case,She-"She" being Deadpool's alternative female counterpart Wanda "Lady Deadpool" Wilson,technically speaking_) would be popping in-and-out in her head with both advice on how to do the sexy-times/seduce this billionaire sexy-tightwad douche-canoe Mr.Grey PROPERLY (as shown,this guy has..kinks,to say the least) ,the result of the sexy-times/seduction with Grey (if successful,at best-if she's amused and/or willing by/about it) and later-on to notify and ACTUALLY give some FRICKING realistic advice on how to get _the bejesus_ OUTTA THERE if Christian goes WAY too overboard with his..kinky-Fcukery (and into actual abuse territory)/to fight back if he were ever to get violent and lash-out at her..while breaking the fourth wall constantly making jokes about the crappiness of this whole situation/genre in general,while also thinking: "_umm,why is he turned onto/on by me like this again? Didn't I get the goddamn 'Don't talk to strangers-especially the Creepy ones'-talk when I was a little girl/kid,didn't I? Mom surely never told me,that neglectful wench.._" Although,most of the time? He/She would be standing/sitting in a fancy armchair,smoking a common (-and/or medicinal) cigarette in the corner being like: "_Woman,what in the holy name of Jesus-f&cking-Hugh Jackman are you thinking of doing with /going out with that demented-piece of glorified hunk meat without knowing about his 50-shades-of-F&CKED-up and Freudian Bullshit beforehand,you braindead Bella Swan-arse reject? Jesus-What the hell was E.L. James smoking to not even GIVE you even a shred of decency,respect and otherwise ANY character-defining personality traits and overall snarkiness in your sorry ass,girl?! Jesus Christ-Katniss everdeen had more personality,sexual-Characteristics-AND-a decent,albeit forced though, relationship with that Peeta boy in one little finger than you do in your STORYLINE AND whole plain-Jane-who's-Fcukable graduate body,sweetheart! Now-That girl?-is a confident young woman,you're just a horrible twilight rehash written by some 40-something woman whom haven't been sexually pleasured in,like,what-a few years and just DECIDED to ripoff another woman's work,Yeeesh..And Katniss can actually FIGHT,goddammit..you,however darling..? You're just underprocessed erotica-protagonist wank-fodder,you wench-Hey,listen..take my advice as your inner goddess..AND GO FCUK SOMEBODY with actual personality and standards,dumbass.. God-this is lazy character-building writing..And screw you Snowqueen'sIcedragon for bringing me into this F&cking world! I need a drink.." (like something akin to the "Old Snatch" from Team StarKid's "My dick and me",but it's just Deadpool/Lady Deadpool instead-is what I mean,honestly-yeah..!)
Not only does Ana marry Grey, SHE HAS A KID WITH HIM. Oh my god this is absolutely terrifying that someone could think that this is a healthy relationship....
You know, we should get Anna together with Wade Wilson should the sequels not work out. They both have two internal voices that speak to them! Deadpool ftw! =P
I'm honestly surprised that this series even has an audience. I'm fairly active in BDSM circles and I am not exaggerating when I say practically everyone in the community hates this shit. And I still have yet to watch a review of this movie that acknowledges BDSM contracts are are a real (albeit purely symbolic) thing. The problem with the way 50SOG portrays it, though, is it is ABSOLUTELY NOT SOMETHING YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH BEGINNERS.
Looked up the tampon excerpt (yeah, I'm _that_ morbidly curious), and I've got to say, it ain't that squicky to me. It's just really stupid. Then again, I've seen far worse out there. I couldn't help but laugh at how unsexy it was. XD
Seeing as how I'm 4 years late, no one will read this comment. But man you had me laughing out loud with the Shockmaster reference. You have made me laugh out loud on several videos. Well done.
What a load of crap. She mastered force abilities that took other Jedi years, if not decades, to fully master and utilize in the course of what, three years? Rey Palpatine Skywalker is totes a Mary Sue
I mean, there are bdsm relationships where roles are carried over into daily life, but it's still a aroleplay and therefore a farce. And contracts do exsist in bdsm, but it's always in the sole interest of making all parties involved feel secure and safe.
Top 5 impressions that Sean should have done while reading those excerpts from Fifty Shades:- Nicolas Cage- William Shatner- Jeremy Irons as Profion- Eddie Redmayne as Balem Abrasax- John Travolta as Terl
