Cinescope or Widescreen - Which is Better?

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When building a home theater, one of the considerations is what aspect ratio will your screen be in. Today I'll share why I chose to go with a 2.35:1 cinescope screen in my home theater. Enter the 50,000 Subscriber Giveaway for your chance to win a Valencia Verona Theater Seat - www.youthmanreviews.com/giveaway.
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@bruceygoosey908 4 года назад

Screw you guys, I'm gonna setup my projection screen in 9:16 so I can watch my favorite TikTok videos in the correct aspect ratio.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Hahaha love it

@bruceygoosey908 4 года назад

@@Youthman Thanks!

@SRMC957 2 года назад

@@Youthman I need one to make it look like an CinemaScope

@victormuriel7266 2 года назад

Best comment ever!!! 😜😂😂😂

@WeMuskMars 4 года назад

Enjoyed the trip through your home theater history. Makes us all feel better about this journey we have embarked on. Keep on keepin on.

@SteveSmith-cm1hx 4 года назад

Great video Youthman! I always learn alot when watching your videos. Keep up the great work.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks! That means a lot to hear I am providing value to you.

@HoiA1980 4 года назад

I started (4 years ago) with a 104" diagonal 16x9 fixed frame screen, then added DIY motorized horizontal masking for scope films. Wasn't satisfied with the size of scope films on the 16x9 screen so I added a 115" wide motorized 2.39 scope screen to drop down over the 16x9 screen. A few weeks later added a JVC NX7 and DCR lens. Having 2 screens is Win-Win-Win!

@HunGerMovies Год назад

If you have a "tall" room, then 16:9 is bigger, if you have a wide room, with not much height, than 2.39 could be better. I prefer to have as big screen as possible, my ceiling is 3,8m high, and the width of the wall I can use is a bit less than 3m, so I went for the 16:9.

@yoyotaka14 4 года назад

Great video thanks! One Big question os when you say it's ok to sit sat 9feet (2,75m) for a 150 inch screen I assume that's for 4k material, would that distance change if it's 180p?

@numanali4945 4 года назад

Very good information. Really like the clarity with which you convey the concept.

@thehawkinator449 4 года назад

Hey Youthman. What happens when you watch a movie that changes between 2.35:1 and 16:9 for IMAX scenes?

@christopherterheyden9583 4 года назад

Both my current home theater on the first floor and the new one I’m working on in the basement are outfitted with Cinemascope screens (2.35:1). With the new room, I went with an acoustic transparent screen to hide the speakers and for image sound localization. Being able to hide the speakers is also a great way to take advantage getting some great deals on used or discounted floor model speakers (Youthman’s Tip #2). If the cabinets are blemished, or your setup is mismatched, it’s less of a concern when they’re hidden away. I’m running an anamorphic on my current setup but I’m not sure I’ll use it on the new setup because I’ve always struggled with dialing out the pincushion.

@sliknik1966 4 года назад

Thinking of ordering the Epson 6050 projector and trying to decide on my screen. The room is 15.6 x 22 and I have it set up looking at the screen in the 15 foot direction. Will the Epson shoot onto a 120" 2.35.1 screen ok? and will the projector be loud over my head. Oh the ceilings are 10ft. Also I noticed the 4k ultra discs I have say 2.39.1. Will I have bars on a 2.35 screen? Love your channel, keep it up

@ricanman85 4 года назад

Do you have issues with IMAX ratio scenes and movies?

@devvin 2 года назад

I love your videos, man! I know you've got an NX7 with a 150" 2.35 XD screen. I have an RS2100 showing up this week and I'm trying to choose a screen material. What do you think of the XD material with regards to visible texture from the weave? I'm sitting at 11.5-12 feet back from the screen and want a great experience. I'm looking at the XD, NEO, and Dreamscreen V7. Would love to hear your experience with your screen. Thanks, and keep making these great videos!

@notmillionaires 4 года назад

Hey Youthman. I have a pretty amazing living room setup, 7.4.4, that between your videos and chatting on fb, you really helped me out quite a bit on putting it together. Couldnt be happier. But I was curious if you have tried out any of the near field projectors yet. I game a lot and am all about image quality so I ended up doing an OLED when I was upgrading. But had considered a short throw. Was wondering if you ever reviewed any. Just checkin and thanks. Keep up the good work.

@toddroy9558 2 года назад

After thinking, I decided to turn it around. Now because I have 8’ ceilings, I’m going with a 120”x 61” screen. I will have two rows of seats, with a ceiling mounted projector, so I’m not sure how high the bottom of the screen needs to be off the floor, so that the projector doesn’t hit the tops of people’s heads. I think because I’m using towers, I won’t be able to put them behind the screen, but I do want to put the subs Behind the screen. I’m trying to make my room like yours but I have shorter ceilings. Any thoughts from you would be great. Thanks

@yuzainijiebahadin793 4 года назад

Hi Youthman....limitations on my pj to change from 16:9 to 2.35:1 has led me to make a top and bottom masking for my CIW projection set-up.

@rohitkurup6191 4 года назад

Can the newer UST projectors project a 2.35:1 image?

@NickSmith-ku5pn 2 года назад

I'm trying to decide what aspect ratio screen to get I also will only be using the theater for movies however my concern with getting a 2.35 ratio screen is watching movies that are shot in 1.85 like jurassic Park would I be better off getting a 16x9 screen and just dealing with the black bars?

@HalfbrickVHS Год назад

What i'm going to do when i eventually get my cinema room is to have a 2.35 screen on the wall, and a motorized 16:9 screen that drops down infront of it, for when i want to watch 1.85 content.

@BuildMontage 4 года назад

I wanted to go CinemaScope, but changed my mind at the last minute. In all honesty I regret that now as I only watch movies on the theater room to save the globe for special occasions and watch TV on my 75”. Lessons learned I guess. I’d love to try building a screen like yours!!

@saubriz 4 года назад

Youthman: “I watch zero sports, none whatsoever!” The Whole World RN: “ditto” 🤣🤣🤣...................no? .....too early?

@yamafanboy 4 года назад

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@kthx1138 Год назад

Excellent video! How does one handle wider than 2.35:1 movies like Ben Hur and Hateful Eight in 2.76:1?

@tinsonthomastravel Год назад

Hey mate, what do you say about movies with variable aspect ratio. How it is displayed when using a scope screen with 2.35:1. I am considering putting a scope screen in my theatre, but wondering how this works. Esp for movies like Top gun Maverick where a lot of scenes are shot on IMAX format and then it switches back to 2.35:1 again..? Will the image spill over the screen if uses lens memory? Thanks for your reply.

@toddroy9558 2 года назад

So if I had a wall 120” wide, my screen would be 51” high? I have a room that’s 13’x20’ but the door coming into it is at the front where the screen is, so I will have a aisle to one side where the door comes in. That means the screen will be on the other side. So I have 10’ to work with. So I want to build a screen, but I want it as big as I can get it. The 3 towers and two subs will be behind the screen. So basically my front seats will be about 6’ from the screen. Do you think that will work? Trying to plan everything before building.

@brentbabb6559 4 года назад

hey youthman do you think you can have a review of the trinnov altitude 16 processor

@prestont447 3 года назад

Youthman, I have watched pretty much all of your home theater videos and do remember at one time you did mention, how far your front row is from you screen. Would you please give me the distance again....? I am looking at 106inch screen and between 9 to 12 feet to the first row.

@macho9556 4 года назад

Awesome subject Youthman!!!! Reason being.... Is that I'm torn between Cinescope and a UST. I deff want the convinence of a pretty much plug n play UST but I would love the immersiveness of a 2:35:1 screen

@wking8 4 года назад

Great video, as usual. I know this clears up a lot for people.

@paulrevere1479 4 года назад

Cinemascope!!! Something about not seeing black bars looks so good when watching movies. It just looks right

@Youthman 4 года назад

Absolutely!

@whiteandnerdytuba 4 года назад

Unless your movie is in a different ratio

@paulrevere1479 4 года назад

@@whiteandnerdytuba True. But more than likely the movie is in scope. I can deal with a 16x9 image on my 2.35:1 screen once in a while.

@kthx1138 Год назад

I agree! 2.35:1 looks like GOD'S aspect ratio. It's also approximately the aspect ratio of our eye sockets!

@optimusvader7823 4 года назад

Hello Michael 🙋🏻‍♂️, Thank you for a great video . I don’t know much about this topic . God bless !

@highflyingfalcon1380 4 года назад

By now i think i know this tings, but now i learn some new thinks. Great and helpful video! :)

@giuseppealba9814 4 месяца назад

Hi, I followed your video and tried to do as explained.. .but I can't find the right compromise with other video formats that aren't 2.35:1..... I'll start by saying that my screen is 2.33:1 but I just can't find a solution for example with 1.85:1.. I have a JVC N7 as a video projector. Do you have any advice for me? I would like to see everything in 2.33 without any vertical or horizontal black bars.

@Youthman 4 месяца назад

If your desire is to fill a cinema scope screen with all content, you only have a few options. 1) madVR Envy using non-linear stretch. Check out my video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EZIa4bbmSUA.htmlsi=77H2CdfSL5eU4Q2N 2) Electronic side masking 3) Manual side masking The lens memory in the NZ7 allows you to zoom in and fill the entire Cinemascope screen. But when you’re viewing content that is not as wide, you’re going to have Gray bars on the left and right unless you do one of the three above.

@Harris316 2 года назад

Great video and excellent explanation of the 16:9 and 2.35:1 aspect ratio. We don’t watch much sports, so the immersive experience of 2.4:1 ratio best fits our family’s preference. Thanks for great content👍👍

@Youthman 2 года назад

Thank you for the kind words Harris

@gialloradio 4 года назад

By having 2.35:1 screen do you lose burned in subtitles (at the bottom) say Hunt For Red October? Some movies put these burned in subtitles in the lower black bar.

@Youthman 4 года назад

It depends on where they place the subtitles. If they normally appear in the bottom black bar then yes, that would extend below your screen.

@jonb3792 4 года назад

Never thought about that. I always watch with subtitles on. Glad I bought a 16:9 screen, I was going to get 2.35:1.

@gialloradio 4 года назад

@@jonb3792 Subtitles will fit in the screen - it's when the film maker decides to put foreign translations into the bottom black bar. HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER burns the Russian translation in the bottom black bar.I assumed it would be off screen as Youthman says.

@danielmravljov 4 года назад

I rather learn russian before going back to 16:9 😅 But I hear you....the few times I watch Netflix I have a "2.35:1 Netflix" settings on my jvc where i'd raised the picture so the subtitles shows

@shaneducholke364 4 года назад

The brand name I always wanted in my theatre room over 15 years ago was Classe pre/pro and amps. They were just so sleek and sext and the performance was breathtaking.

@tkcdac 4 года назад

I went 16:9, as I prefer black bars top and bottom, than to the sides. The picture can be HUGE, or as wide as it can on the 2.35 aspect. It always fills the width. The black bars on the sides make the image smaller every time, and there is so much content still only in 16:9.

@ZombiesRus5 4 года назад

I’m going to get a 2:35.1 for constant image height. The widescreen picture is smaller on a 16:9 screen. With constant image height you are getting the same size image for both 16:9 and 2:35.1

@Youthman 4 года назад

My screen is setup as CIH as well

@tkcdac 4 года назад

@@Youthman I would have done the same thing as you for your space though. My entire wall is a screen. Your theater looks super amazing.

@jeffleigh3747 4 года назад

Hey Youthman, once again you smashed it. So so helpful. The way you explain things is so easy to follow. Thank you, Jeff, Liverpool 🇬🇧 IF POSSIBLE, COULD YOU DO A VIDEO ON REFRESH RATES PLEASE? ie, 24p, 60htz, 120htz ...bearing in mind I’m using led tv 65” full array back lit. Only if you have time. Thank you.

@scott3715 3 года назад

Seems like many streaming sources: Netflix, Disney+, etc are in 2:35:1.

@michaelviers6461 2 года назад

How do you handle films or tv shows with mixed aspect ratios? Something like ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD or even THE MANDOLORIAN which uses aspect ratios changes for emotional effect. Also do you research the film ahead of time to pre-set your aspect ratio or skip to a scene, set and then start over?

@Youthman 2 года назад

My setup is designed around scope content since the vast majority of what I watch are in 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 aspect ratio. For the 0.1% that has mixed content, I mask the area of the image that would otherwise spill above and below my screen. I do not do any research. I hit play and hit one button on my Harmony Elite to switch to one of my presets on the JVC NX7.

@Mark-rn6rs 4 года назад

Thank you 👍🏻 Exactly what i was looking for

@ninomazzini1 4 года назад

Hi Michael, When you install your new JVC NX7 projector, I would like you to do a very detailed review about the lens memory function of this projector with demo videos, because I can't find much information about this function in its manual. thanks

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you for the suggestion

@MrMiiichael 4 года назад

Great video. Learned a lot!

@artyfhartie2269 2 года назад

There is also a tv setting called Original. What format is that?

@joem2241 3 года назад

Hello Youthman, do you have any recommendations for pull down 2:35:1 screens? Having a real difficult time locating any, thanks!

@Youthman 3 года назад

I just searched Amazon and found one

@joem2241 3 года назад

@@YouthmanThanks for the quick response, is it a large size? I am trying to find one close to 150"

@Youthman 3 года назад

It might be difficult to find 150 inch pull down. I think the one I found was about 100 inches

@MrJgibo1 4 года назад

Currently have my 125 inch drop down. Thinking when I update my projector I will add a bigger "cinescope" drop down so I can have both 😁

@Raritytuber 3 года назад

That's what Craig Peer's doing over at AVSForum. Best of both worlds and a lot less expensive than motomask solutions.

@BY-nc2br Год назад

Fantastic explanation! Thanks for this!

@Youthman Год назад

Glad you found the video helpful

@brendanvinsent6069 3 года назад

Hi Youthman, how do you handle watching movies that switch aspect ratios midway ie., The Dark Knight?

@Youthman 3 года назад

For that 0.5% of movies that have more than one aspect ratio, I just let it spill above and below my screen.

@Max-lp6bi 4 года назад

Hi Youthman, I am also one of them that chose to go with a 2.35:1 cinescope screen in my home theater - I have 120 inches 4K screen. I just love watching movie in CinemaScope - it feel so good........

@lesmatthews459 4 года назад

Super informative!!!

@faysalusman 4 года назад

Having said that u use lens memory so when you adjust to a 235, please make a video on how you handle the black bars below and above the screen.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Ask and you shall receive - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8WCk1PqZ4HQ.html

@shaneducholke364 4 года назад

Great vid. I love swing how people made certain decision I their theatre room, especially of it was built a long time ago. I started building min in 2002 after about a year of PLANNING. I was at the same crossroads as you were but the decision was easier for different reasons. At the time, I lived cinemascope, but the problem was that very few titles offered it on DVD as back then everything was watched on 42" - 48" widescreen TV's, we already had a 50" Toshiba projo and the brand new 60" were over $6000. The only titles I had that would do scope was Saving Private Ryan, Braveheart, Kingdom of heaven and a few others. My other issue was wall space as my front entrance is on the screen side and I even cut into my furnace room for an angles entrance to give me as much space as possible. I wanted a snack area, and rear access to my rack, it was my only layout option. That means in a 16:9 setup, the biggest screen I could fit was 106" and with all masking tape, the scope screen was just too small at that size so 16:9 it was. If I didn't have a wall width issue I would ha e fit the biggest anamorphic 21:9 screen I could fit. It was so much harder to build dedicated theatre rooms 17-20 years ago without RU-vid and minimal online, you had to buy the 3 different magazines a month and dig deep into forum's for answers and advice.

@ZND2022 Год назад

Hey youthman! I’m buying a projector and screen for the first time and I was wondering how you handle a 2.35:1 screen on movies with constantly changing aspect ratios such as the IMAX scenes in interstellar? Thank you!

@Youthman Год назад

I mask the overspill. You can either mask it, let it spill above and below your screen or spend big money on MadVR to do non linear stretch.

@Youthman Год назад

Keep in mind there are probably 0.001% of movies that do that. No reason to build your system around that small percentage

@ZND2022 Год назад

@@Youthman 99% of movies I watch are in 2.35 but I read that The physical release of Top Gun Maverick will have variable aspect ratios! So thank you! I’ll have to look into masking! Also your channel has helped me out so much while building my home theatre! Keep doing what you’re doing!!

@Youthman Год назад

Appreciate the kind words. Yes, I too read that about Maverick. You aren’t missing anything important that will be masked above and below your 2.35:1 screen. I can’t wait to get my Steelbook and watch it in my theater room

@don7630 Год назад

Love yout channel, lol you are costing a lot of money. I have an odd question? I work on RV's and currently building a Home Theatre system, I'm wanting to make my own Screen out of the roof material I use every day. It's made of PVC and very flat with a matt finish, might not be the best material but I can make my screen as large as I need and I understand that I should be using a screen with a value of at least a 1.3 or so using a Epson 5050UB, any thoughts?

@Youthman Год назад

I would say absolutely try it out. You could always place a small amount of it up against the wall and just see how it looks. Lots of people use a variety of DIY solutions and get great results. I’ve never heard needing a gain of 1.3 for the Epson. Maybe it’s because of the size of screen that you were going for?

@jesusrdz4091 4 года назад

Wait wait waiiiiiitt!!!! Did you change your Subs??? Wow, those two beasts must have very impressive work, you always loved your subs !!!! 🤨

@user-fq5uw4uj2u 4 года назад

Thanks for the video Youthman! I love cinemascope and am considering this for my own home cinema which I will build in the next 2 years. I have one issue though; what about movies like The Dark Knight, Interstellar, Mission Impossible Fallout etc which varies between 16:9 and 2.35:1?

@Youthman 4 года назад

With this setup, for movies that switch between 2.35:1 and IMAX, it will extend above and below the screen

@user-fq5uw4uj2u 4 года назад

@@Youthman ok. And it's ok, not annoying? Thanks for answering😁

@Youthman 4 года назад

There are so few titles that I have watched that have that, it wasn’t an issue. If the majority of movies did that, it would be frustrating

@8reus 2 года назад

@@Youthman could using a projectors blanking feature prevent image spilling over the screen when the aspect ratio changes mid film? As much as blocking out actual footage is frowned upon, I'd prefer to not see the image at all if a large part of it is spilling over on to my wall. P.s. love your vids 🙏

@Youthman 2 года назад

Yes I have since added digital masking within the JVC to do this when viewing 2:35:1 content.

@chadlott4566 4 года назад

I had a 150" diagonal 16:9 screen for two years and three months ago switched over to a 140" diagonal 2.39:1 cinescope screen, and I am fairly confident that I will never go back to 16:9. I still watch a lot of 16:9 content (sports mainly but also shows on Netflix, Prime, etc.), but watching movies like Star Wars on a scope screen without the letterbox bars is simply a much more immersive and amazing experience. Sports and shows are still large and look good on the scope screen, and you can mask a scope screen much easier, so it's a no brainer for me now. If you want a true "theater" experience in your own home, go with a scope screen.

@Youthman 3 года назад

I completely agree Chad. It's simply not the same experience as having a wall to wall image in 2.35:1 aspect ratio.

@fred88alex 4 года назад

What about with movies such as Mission Impossible: Fallout, Aquaman and Interstellar? Those movies switch from 2:35:1 to 16:9? Wouldn't it bleed out of your screen?

@Youthman 4 года назад

That is correct. 3 movies out of a huge host of non switching content. I can deal with that for the benefit that 2.35:1 offers.

@fred88alex 4 года назад

@@Youthman so how would you correct that? Would you adjust your projector to 16:9, making your screen smaller to adjust for those films? Sorry for the 21 questions

@akaredcrossbow 4 года назад

It’s amazing how big your room looks now compared to before! 🤯🤯🤯 👍🏻👍🏻

@Youthman 4 года назад

What makes it look larger? It's still 13' x 19' with 10' ceiling.

@akaredcrossbow 4 года назад

Youthman I’m guessing, but the darker colors that you used in the room and the camera angles you use now! I honestly don’t know! I have a 13x25 room, and your room in your videos looks like it dwarfs mine🤷🏻‍♂️😀. I remember back when I first started watching your videos and looking at your theater room saying to myself “I wish I had the size room you have so I could do something like this”. A couple videos later you said the dimensions of the room and my jaw dropped! It literally looks like your theater room is 19x25. I believe you have set that room up perfectly! 👍🏻👍🏻😃

@LoudCobra1 4 года назад

Hey Youthman Finally got my Klipsch I'm in love. Now the screen Hmmm.... Keep talking I'm listening lol

@CameronWoolf 4 года назад

For this discussion I feel it’s important to talk about CIH (constant image height) which can play a big part in the decision. You should also consider the size of the location your screen will be placed (both height and width). Also, having lens memory as an option on your projector helps a TON! I have an NX7 and a 156” SI scope screen and absolutely love it. Switching between pre-programmed lens memory is a simple one click on the remote. Ps- YM, u will love the latest firmware update for the NX7 that came out last October.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks Cameron. All great points to consider.

@powerinnumbers6159 4 года назад

so do you not notice the grey bars outside the screen edge?

@Youthman 4 года назад

In 2.35:1, my entire screen is filled and the grey bars that are above and below the screen cannot be seen.

@DavidSmith-tn9rm Год назад

Can I get an affordable Cinescope screen? I can't find any that are less than like $2000, they are mostly like $7000.

@Youthman Год назад

Elite, Silver Ticket both make affordable cinescope screens

@alford35 4 года назад

You wear glasses so have to ask. I hate it when the image is so big that it falls outside of my glasses’ frames. If I sit in my front row it’s right there at the edge of being just right to too big. Does your front row fall within your frames?

@Youthman 4 года назад

Honestly I’ve never looked to see (no pun intended). If I have never noticed it, I’m guessing it’s not an issue. My frames are pretty wide. If your frames are more narrow, you will have a more narrow field of view

@icey_matty 4 года назад

I have a 55 inch 4k tv I love projections systems but I haven’t got the cash for that I have a 5.1.2 surround sound I love this channel for amazing tips and explains the basic stuff

@whiteandnerdytuba 4 года назад

16:9 since it works with old and new movies. Thin and wide is less immersive than the same width but taller

@toddroy9558 2 года назад

It looks like you speakers are about ear level. If they are does it really matter if they are a little higher?

@Youthman 2 года назад

The tweeters are slightly above ear level but it works great. Towers wouldn’t work

@VONDOOM88 4 месяца назад

I went with a 2.35:1 screen when i first got a projector with lens memory. I later got an anamorphic lens which made it even better. No regrets with a CIH setup. My only gripes are movies that switch aspect ratios wish it was optional on the disc

@johnphillips1328 4 года назад

2.35:1 is the only way to go, currently loving a 142" Cinescope screen. With the JVC's lens memory, I have both the 2.35:1 and 16x9 saved so jumping back and forth isn't an issue.

@bighands69 2 года назад

I have a similar sort of set up with my screen size being 130" and have a lens memory as well. I have seen my self making mistakes at times and forgetting set up.

@myhometheater7029 4 года назад

I went with a 16:9 150” acoustic transparent screen but now I wish I had went with a 2.35:1 screen. Great video brother.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you.

@bighands69 2 года назад

It all comes down to your viewing distance. If you are too far away then those black bars might become an issue as they can reduce space on the screen. There is a lot of content with 16:9 and I would be really dubious of streaming services when it comes to movies and their aspect ratio. And unless you are really familiar with movie in question it might get very difficult to know how near are to native aspect.

@rajivchauhan3223 4 года назад

Hi ajitman... want to know 2 imp thing about your HT.. 1. What are the dimensions of your theater room 2. What is the size ( diagonal) of your theater screen..and what is the total size of this ( LxB)

@Youthman 4 года назад

My room is 13’ x 19’ x 10’ Screen is 150” diagonal in 2.35:1

@HunGerMovies Год назад

I understand your point, and you are right that the content that you plan to consume is an important factor, and yes, a wide screen can be very immersive, but as I see you still have some room up and down, so imagine how immersive a 16:9 screen would be with the same width like your screen:) But again, if you really do not watch youtube videos, or any other content than movies with 2.35:1 aspect ratios, it is fine. I just think that most walls are closer to a 16:9 ar than a 2.35:1, and it is pity to not use as much of the wall space as possible. To sum it up, usually the width is the bottleneck of a wall, not the height, so for a home theater, I would go for the 16:9 anytime. I just love the extra height, when I can almost fit myself in the screen standing in front of it. If you have 3D content 16:9 that is also much more enjoyable than a 2.35:1 due to the extra height. I also love when the screen starts almost from the floor, and as high as me standing, then the middle of the screen is at my eye level when sitting, it is really like you were in the movie. But this is just me. To me the 2.35 could work if the rooom had a very wide wall.

@Youthman Год назад

Everyone must decide what works best for their preference and their room. I’m just sharing the reasons 2.35:1 is the best choice for my setup and preferences.

@nedkulic2164 4 года назад

THANK YOU ....Youthman.....You just helped me decide in more clarity to step into the 2:35.1 - I have Sony VPL-HW11000ES projector :-) with this feature Picture position feature for lens-less anamorphic (2.35:1) - No anamorphic lens required When using a cinema scope screen, enjoy 2.35:1 content without the need for an external anamorphic lens using the Picture Position function. - Picture Position Yes, 5 Modes (including lens-less anamorphic) - Picture Position Memory This feature remembers the position of the zoom lens. You can match it to a movie’s aspect ratio (including 16:9 and Cinemascope) and store the settings for a future viewing. Is there a reason why you chose Seymour Center Stage XD Cinescope Brand??? Cheers Ned

@Youthman 4 года назад

Seymour had a great reputation for making quality fabric without having to take out a second mortgage into your home. I paid $360 for the fabric and less than $100 to build the frame. And it looks fantastic

@alford35 4 года назад

You get a Lumagen R Pro? That’s the only thing I can think of that’s been around as long as you said you’ve been wanting something?

@Youthman 4 года назад

I was referring to wanting a JVC projector for the past 13 years. Not necessarily a certain model - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fF2NPP89LnU.html I have been wanting to upgrade to the NX7 for about a year.

@alford35 4 года назад

Very true. I wear slim frameless lenses similar to yours but still surprised you Ed never noticed lol. Don’t try to notice!!! It will be one of those things that once you notice that will forever be there in the future lmao. Sorry.

@hammadqasim8445 4 года назад

I have NEC projector M282x and samsung home theater what about eco mode ,,,,,,

@Youthman 4 года назад

I do not use eco mode myself. I want the best performance I can get

@WestsideTech 4 года назад

Nice info

@peat381low8 2 года назад

Just got into your channel. I wish I had did a little bit of research for aspect ratios before purchasing some cheaper screens. I am glad you are discussing this. I feel like projectors are really becoming popular because of the lockdowns. I tend to watch more anime that is 4:3 then I do have movies 🎥 and streaming that do use the wider cinemascope. I do plan to use a streaming device like most people and might end up getting a 16:9 screen. Love your channel.

@Youthman 2 года назад

Thank you for the kind words. I always recommend a screen that is in the aspect ratio that you use the most. For me, the VAST majority of content is in scope so that's why 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 screen works better in my setup. I also wanted something different than just a larger 16:9 TV in my dedicated theater room.

@georgepopescu1327 4 года назад

A large 16:9 screen is much more flexible in terms of displaying content. Not all movies are shot in 2: 35 : 1 . A lot of classic movies are shot in 1 : 85 and recently there are some movies shot in IMAX which is close to 1 :85 too in terms of aspect ratio. For example I have seen movies on a cinespcope screen in a showroom and it is true that 2 : 35 movies look great but the moment I watched Jurrasic Park (a real classic movie) it was absolutely unwatchable. The image got hilariously small. On the other hand a 16:9 screen allows you do some tricks in order to get the image size you want (masking the white bars for example or, if you have money to burn a panamorph lens).

@pwrmx24 10 месяцев назад

Why not get a 16:9 screen and mask with curtains for 2.35:1?

@Youthman 10 месяцев назад

As I shared in the video, the vast majority of content I watch is in 2.35:1 so why would I want to design a room that isn’t in that format? Manual masking would require a stepstool each time I wanted to add it, and I would need a place to store the long masking panels. Electronic masking is extremely expensive. So for my room, and my needs, 2.35:1 is the optimal solution. I have ZERO regrets not going with a 16:9 screen.

@victorpulos823 4 года назад

Isn’t lens’s memory worth doing?

@madan9394 3 года назад

why not 2.4.1? is there no difference between 2.35 vs 2.4.1

@gzamora25 4 года назад

Youthman I got an even poorer man's anamorphic. I only have an entry level projector (Optoma HD142x). I placed my projector at a point where if I zoom my projector all the way out digitally, I end up with a 16:9 picture to fit perfectly in the middle of my cinemascope screen when I watch 16:9 content. That gives me a 100 inch picture. BUT when I watch movies, I zoom in digitally a few notches to fit in a 2.35:1 picture perfectly into my cinemascope screen. I do this with my projector remote and it doesn't take but a few pushes of a button. I think its worth mentioning that most projectors have digital zoom so anyone can get or make a cinemascope screen to accomplish that cinematic look. I will upgrade to the Epson 5050ub soon (still saving), which has the lens memory shift but for now, this does it for me. Congrats on the JVC!

@NoahWilson98 4 года назад

Wow great information! I would love to go with a CinemaScope only thing is there are a few movies I look forward to like Aquaman, Mission Impossible Fallout, Justice league and TRON just to name a few that have imax ratios and such. I guess it’s a small ish trade off. But maybe there are some solutions to combat this. Thanks

@fishis14 3 года назад

The solution is using a 16/9 screen, he'll keep the same size of his current CinemaScope screen but extend the screen up and down to 16/9. No excuse not to use 16/9 and a masking system since his screen can only get bigger.

@Youthman 3 года назад

No excuse not to use 16:9? Sorry but that's bad advice. Every situation is different. I can 100% tell you that I would not be happy with a 16:9 image in my room. My desire was to have a wall to wall experience that is different than what you get when watching even a large 16:9 TV. There are pros and cons of both aspect ratios. The best way would be to have an anamorphic lens and sled (which will cost you more than the projector) or if you can afford to go with a wall to wall 16:9 image and have electronic masking to mask the top and the bottom (again SUPER pricey, especially at that size image).

@rhdtv2002 3 года назад

Great Great video..hey Youthman..one thing that as an older guy i.miss about older reviews of the past is the calibration part of video. Im a guy who grew up calibrating my projector tv with software and colorimeters such as HCFR..or Calman - today you dont hear much.of color calibration anymore like the early 90s..

@Youthman 3 года назад

Techno Dad is learning how to Calibrate TV’s on his channel.

@yamafanboy 4 года назад

you see for my little "tiny" 100" screen I prefer 16:9 because it allows me to view a true 100" diagonal picture. Watching movies in scope on my screen means a much smaller picture than the actual screen size. Now with a dedicated home cinema room which can accommodate a much larger screen i'd go for.... (nope you guessed wrong...) BOTH!!! My dream setup should be able to articulate between 16:9 and 2.35 depending on the content (using sliding curtain trickery like real movie theaters). Go big or go home right?

@aaronao1 4 года назад

I think its quite simple really. Get whichever screen gives you the largest real estate for your room. My room is fairly square so the 16:9 screen gave me the most screen. If it was more wider, I would have got a cinemascope screen.

@stuckonluck 2 года назад

How to hide top bottom bars? Velvet mask?

@AGC828 4 года назад

I think it comes down to cost more than what media we watch most. Because there are "multi-masking" screens that will auto resize the aspect ratio. But htey cost 7x more than a fixed screen. Very few HT people can afford...as they would then be getting a front projector on par with the screen...people who can afford the $30k+ projectors and the hi-end gear. How wide is your 150" screen in feet? Curious. 58" "too small"? Perhaps standing against your rear wall. :)

@atorgrotto 4 года назад

You and me both brother, no time for sports with all those great movies out there!

@FinnishArmy 4 года назад

I have a 70" 4K TV so 16:9. I thought about projector but the input lag would be insane. I play games on my PC, so I need something fast. 70" was $700 for me. Anything over (75"+) would be over $1k.

@kratoslostson3427 4 года назад

I have a 150 inch 16:9 elite screen didn’t know about 2.35 ratio lol

@Youthman 4 года назад

Now you know

@kratoslostson3427 4 года назад

Youthman haha I know but found out 1 week after ordering my screen. My projector doesn’t have CinemaScope anyway :\. I love the way your screen looks. 2:35 looks really nice

@georgepopescu1327 4 года назад

@@kratoslostson3427 none of the home cinema projectors have native 2 : 35 : 1 . You get this only with projectors like Christie or Barco, but they cost a lot, 25 000 - 30 000 $ and up. All cheaper projectors, even those very good JVC's have 16 : 9 native ratio so they will have black bars.

@Youthman 4 года назад

You are correct. My projectors is native 16:9 but here is how I handle 2.35:1 content - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8WCk1PqZ4HQ.html

@georgepopescu1327 4 года назад

@@Youthman still for HDR and 3D movies a panamorph lens will give you 33% more light output which is very important on a screen that size. Maby your next investment :))

@fishis14 4 года назад

Now I watched your video and you made many great points. But have you ever thought of using masking panels to cover the black bars? You maximised the width of the screen but it looks like you still have a fair bit of height real estate available, why not go for a 16/9 screen so at least you can take advantage of the rare movie (avatar) that's been shot in 16/9? My home theater dreams haven't been realised yet but I love your room, many things i would copy :)

@Youthman 3 года назад

Several issues with doing that in my setup. 1) Would prevent me from having a lower cabinet that pulls out to allow me easy access behind my equipment and an upper cabinet that is decorative. 2) Where do you store 12.5' wide masking panels? Imagine the how big of a pain in the butt it would be to manually add them each time the aspect ratio changes. Definitely not practical. 3) Electronic masking would be great if I didn't need #1 above but electronic masking for a 150" screen would be ridiculously expensive. I personally do not see any value in spending tons of money on a solution so I can enjoy rare movies that switch aspect ratios. As mentioned in a previous comment, every situation is different and people have to decide what will work best for their needs and their room. I personally will always have a scope screen for my theater room unless I one day move and build a new home theater and can afford electronic masking for a ridiculously large wall to wall 16:9 screen.

@fishis14 3 года назад

Do it for finding nemo! Lmao just kidding, those are great points. I'm ignorant on the price of electronic masking, so obviously it must be way more $$ than I imagined.

@Youthman 3 года назад

$5,000 - $10,000 depending on screen size - www.google.com/amp/s/www.twice.com/the-wire/seymour-screen-excellence-cuts-motorized-masking-costs-by-50-percent-with-trim%3famp

@fishis14 3 года назад

@@Youthman Shit......... there a diy option? lol

@Youthman 3 года назад

If you can DIY go for it.

@albertelazar4069 12 дней назад

Hi Youthman, you mentioned that you’re immersed at 9ft away from your 150 inch screen. That is an enormous 65 degree viewing angle from where you’re sitting, and far off the SMPTE’s (40 degree) and THX’s (36 degree) closest recommended viewing angles. At that distance do you have to constantly move your head or eyes left to right, in order to view the whole screen while watching movies?

@Youthman 12 дней назад

Both of those recommended viewing angles are extremely old and outdated. I just had another guest visit my home yesterday and I asked him how he felt sitting 9 foot from 150 inch diagonal in 2.35:1 aspect ratio. He loved the immersion and did not feel he was sitting too close. I’ve had hundreds of guests in my home and have yet to find one person that felt the image was too large.

@albertelazar4069 12 дней назад

I see ok, that’s great to know! Thank you so much for explaining👌

@albertelazar4069 12 дней назад

@@YouthmanSo, the SMPTE and THX recommendations are outdated?

@Youthman 12 дней назад

SMPTE guidelines were introduced in the 1980’s and THX in the late 1980’s and early 90’s.

@Youthman 12 дней назад

I believe CEDIA now recommends 40-50 degree viewing angle.

@techwave870 4 года назад

what i don't like about having 2.35:1 ratio is that everything other than the movie still shows up at the above and below the screen. for example, say you're using an apple tv and decide to play a movie on plex or something, the apple tv is still in 16:9 and goes outside the screen when you're navigating through it. and if you use the lens ratio change that you mentioned in this video then i guess that could work as long as the projector detects the ratio being outputed and automatically changes based on that. On top of that movies that switch between 16:9 and 2.35:1 would be annoying in this. and the movies that do full 16:9 are some of my favorite haha

@Youthman 3 года назад

There are two better solutions...but get your wallet ready. 1) Anamorphic lens and sled. Will typically cost you more than your actual projector. 2) Electric Masking (again very expensive. I'm COMPLETELY ok with the imperfections of the poor man's anamorphic setup I shared in this video.

@victormuriel7266 2 года назад

@Youthman Great video Michael. In my house, I'm mostly the only one who spends time in the theater room, and most of the time is for gaming, so I decided to go just with a 4K TV, now I'm looking for an acoustic transparent screen in order to slide it over the TV for the big cinematic experience when watching movies with my family.

@Youthman 2 года назад

Thank you Victor. I originally was going to do a 55” TV and a 103” Projection Screen in front of it but ended up just going with the projection because we do not watch TV shows.

@victormuriel7266 2 года назад

@@Youthman and you ended up with the bes theater!!!

@Youthman 2 года назад

Thanks!

@UnboundGodz Месяц назад

Realistically, you could just always build your screen to be 16:9. You can easily mask off all sides to suite 2.35:1 or 1.33:1 if and when its needed. But dont of course go overboard with it if your projector doesnt have the brightness needed for the size your attempting.

@Youthman Месяц назад

A lot depends on your room. My cabinet limits my screen height but my screen is almost the width of my room. So a scope screen is a much better option for my setup.

@bryanp4827 4 года назад

16:9 any day of the week...i don't need the hassles of anamorphic lenses, and or buying another projector just to have lense memory...

@Youthman 4 года назад

Nothing wrong with that. Only you can decide what is best for your setup

@bryanp4827 4 года назад

@@Youthman 👍

@chadlott4566 4 года назад

Most projectors have lens memory features so an anamorphic lens is not a must have. My JVC easily switches back and forth between 16:9 and scope.

@mrx01210 4 года назад

The best setup imo is to do CIH+IMAX with 4 way masking.. 16:9 is displayed the same height as a 2.35 image but narrower.. IMAX content is displayed the same width as scope but taller .. this can be achieved with a large 16:9 screen and 4 way masking .

@Youthman 4 года назад

Masking is sweet but isn’t cheap.

@robertkeeler6211 4 года назад

I’ll take my Stewart Gemini, 2:35 for movies with a reference material for watching immersive movies in the dark and a 16:9 alr screen for watching tv with the lights on.....

@Quetzalcoatl0 4 года назад

Before 2013 everything was simple. If you watch TV series you can do a 16:9 and then add masking for a 2.35:1 but now we have TV series that are 19:9, there are movies that are 2.39:1. And now the Imax scenes some movies have, it's super frustrating. There are 4 different aspect ratios that we have worry about. Even if you do a motorized masking, there are still 2 more aspect ratios. Ok maybe the 2.35:1 and the 2.39:1 can be consider as one and lose a bit of image info. I'm planning to go a 16:9 pull down (can't do fixed and there are like 1 or 2 pull down screens that i found to be 2.35:1) maybe do some kind of a masking for 2.35:1 but not sure how that is going to work. So the 16:9 will be used for TV series including the ones that are 19:9. and masking to 2.35:1 and 2.39:1. UH. They need to create a material that is going to be powered, so that we can black out some parts of the screen to create whatever aspect ratios we want.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Yes it does stink that we have to try and adjust for so many different aspect ratios. But in the end it’s still worth having a home theater

@HeathsHobbyLobby 4 года назад

That was good marketing not telling people what the product was, I had to click to find out 👍

@Quetzalcoatl0 4 года назад

When you have a 16:9 screen you can mask the top and bottom for a 21:9 image. Both ways you get the full width of the screen. When you have a 21:9 screen and you mask the sides to create a 16:9 you lose that width, basically created a way way smaller 16:9 image when then a 16:9 screen. So having a 120 inch 16:9 is better than having a 113 inch 21:9. If you switch a lot between TV series and movies.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Good points if you have electric masking (which can get very expensive). I love my 12’ wide 150” cinescope screen.

@danielmravljov 4 года назад

You have to remember that if Youthman, or anyone else, want to have a 150" scope image on a 16:9 screen. The screen have to be 159". That's like 78inches tall. In my own room that will almost be the intire height of the room 😅 You don't want your feet covering the view.

@Quetzalcoatl0 4 года назад

@@danielmravljov Good point :D

@kthx1138 Год назад

I tend to prefer side masking for 16x9 because that's what commercial cinemas do.

@TheBudgie29 4 года назад

2.35:1 all day. I have Two Phillips Cinema 21.9 TV's, I have the 58" In the Cinema Room, and It's little Brother the 56" In the Living Room. I have a 100foot drop down 21.9 Projector screen that drops down In front of the TV. I will never go back to 16.9 and those Horrible Black Bars. The Modification Is called Anamorphic. The 58" model can make any Film or Game 3D, and It looks Great.

@Pwn3dbyth3n00b 2 года назад

I did 16:9 and ended up with a 150" screen. 2.35:1 to me extremely limits the room to just specific movies and doesn't make use of a lot of UHD Blu Rays and streaming content that is starting to feature IMAX content and it also limits you on watching RU-vid videos or streaming shows that are made for widescreen, you'll be stuck with black bars on the side of the screen.

@Youthman 2 года назад

To each his own. The vast majority of content I watch is 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 so for me, a 2.35:1 screen is the perfect fit