Is This OVERKILL for Home Theater?

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@rhysbartlett55 4 года назад

Well, according to my wife it was a dark dark day when I found your channel. Such is life I say. Keep it up

@Youthman 4 года назад

Hahaha. Don’t let her know where I live

@herrtrigger7220 3 года назад

sounds like it's time to upgrade!

@simkinsfrank4169 3 года назад

I have 13 speakers and 3 10” subs into 1.33 ohms into a 1 ohm load amp. Does it count if it’s in my 19’ boat?

@ironcloud8457 3 года назад

Lol my girlfriend gets pissed when she hears that “pink noise” when doing levels 😂😂😂

@Laissez_Faire 2 года назад

😂

@VividTheater 4 года назад

When your system starts destroying your house and your neighbors house, then that is when you hit the overkill threshold.

@Youthman 4 года назад

That’s what the volume knob is for

@VividTheater 4 года назад

@@Youthman Usually owners of endless system power and massive subs lack volume discipline lol. The wife or the cops are the only true volume knob.

@lunatikk1967 4 года назад

@@VividTheater Yo rock but THAT is when you know your home theater is just right 🤣

@JerrysHouseMusic1 3 года назад

When you can’t here anything but bass and you can’t here Dialogue or effects .. then yes it’s overkill

@rico9391 3 года назад

That's not overkill. That's ridiculous.

@Bradimus1 4 года назад

Overkill = Almost Enough

@alford35 4 года назад

Nope not at all. Overkill in audio just means headroom or lack of distortion if proper gear. Less distortion, higher efficiency, and proper gear equals better everything lol

@Youthman 4 года назад

That’s my thoughts exactly

@HossLUK 4 года назад

there's no such thing as overkill when it comes to your passion

@Sloimer 4 года назад

“Overkill”? Sorry - I’m not familiar with that term.

@fdezdebobadilla 4 года назад

"overkill" would mean that it would be 'too much' sound power

@Sloimer 4 года назад

ivanhoe 1968 woosh

@gibluap 3 года назад

@@Sloimer he took you literally! Lol! Although, you were serious! Lol

@adamk5305 4 года назад

Of course there is overkill, but the threshold for which differs among all HT enthusiasts.

@paultripp1156 4 года назад

I’m 62 years old, just bought my first set of hearing aids, yes... there is such a thing as overkill once you get to a certain point you pay a whole lotta money for just a little bit, how ever there is a lotta people out there that go the underkill road.... and that really sucks, your right plenty of power is always better, comfortable volume is best, bragging rights..... well that’s stupid!

@bphilbac 4 года назад

Paul Tripp Well said Paul! I agree totally.

@danielseguin913 4 года назад

This video is a gem. Came right on time for me as I was asking myself the same question about my future plans upgrading my HT. I’m a fan of you and your videos. You are doing good presentations and provide very helpful knowledge. Thank you for sharing!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you very much Daniel I’m glad you’re enjoying the content

@sleeper1023 4 года назад

Thank you for raising and discussing these points. As someone relatively new to the hobby, this dispels a lot of misconceptions I have--making it clearer for me to select which hardware to acquire.

@budgetaudiophile6048 4 года назад

I honestly feel it's impossible to have "too much" subwoofer in a room. If I could afford to have 5 32" subs (they're about 3 grand each) instead of the 5 18s I have currently and 6 24" subs (they're about 2 grand each) instead of the 6 15s, I'd do that. Just gain match, time align, set your levels, send it! It's all about HEAD . . to the ROOM!

@b3owu1f 2 года назад

Man..this was such a great video. I kinda knew some of this already.. but the way you talked about multiple subs lowering the workload of one to pressurize the room.. that really made good sense.

@jallred2 3 года назад

Great talk, I agree with your points on blending subs within the soundfield and having headroom for your speakers.

@peritia5703 4 года назад

Wonderful and informative video! I really appreciate that you went into such great detail to explain your positions.

@rafaelruiz-tagle358 4 года назад

You sure make an awesome show every time… Every Time! Thanks for giving us your knowledge and experience!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Glad you are enjoying the content Rafael

@TheKrillmeisterswe 4 года назад

Overkill is a "term" that doesn't exist when it comes to hometheater

@strtngfrsh 4 года назад

Overkill is a term that should exist in everyone's vocabulary when it comes to home theater.

@charlesm.9858 4 года назад

I agree!! Mine in THX certified and it’s the Perfect set up according to Lucas Film and they are the God fathers of how sound should sound and I have been to their studios and I have NEVER heard anything like it that comes close!! And I have installed theater Gear worth over a hundred thousand dollars... so I can confidently say..There is Term that does matter like YouthMan says.😁

@johndoe9501 3 года назад

@@charlesm.9858 my $20 earbuds are thx certified

@Majorowsky1337 3 года назад

id say same comes to the car audio ;)

@TheKrillmeisterswe 3 года назад

@@strtngfrsh nope

@DerekBove 4 года назад

I like this format of video. Lots of common misconceptions out there, and this is timely as I look at external amplification :)

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you. I’m trying some new things on the channel. Seeing what people enjoy the most. Thank you for the feedback

@deputysheriff5994 4 года назад

Very informative!Thank you! Would love to have all the power when you need it for sure!So yes would love to be in a position of "over kill"!

@sabrewolf9567 3 года назад

Great video I’m just starting to dive into the hobby. I had been wondering about this exact topic for a little while now. Thanks for all the info keep up the great work.

@shaneducholke364 4 года назад

I know what you mean about subs needing to pressurized the room. Best thing I ever did during construction is I used tuck tape and acoustic sealant on ever electrical box, over every staple I used for the poly, on every stud, every base and head board so it was completely air tight. I also got sealed plugs to go in every air vent and I used sealed exterior doors to prevent air loss. This was mostly done for addition al sound proofing (plus alot more) but I noticed a significant improvement to my sub response and believe that has to do with a sealed room. It sounded like I doubled my subs and took me days to fix all the rattled.

@Quetzalcoatl0 4 года назад

Can't agree more. My 0.02 $ is that you need an amp that can do 2x the power of what your speakers are rated, not PEAK power, but the nominal power. If you have more, then that's even better. Would you rather drive a car with a top speed of 170km/h at 160km/h or a car with top speed of 250km/h at 160km/h ? Also remember that the less the cone is moving the cleaner the sound, the lesser of distortion. So having 4 - 8 or more subwoofers will make the bass more clean, and you would be able to reach lower digits hz, even single digit hz.(if sealed, vented can't produce under port tuning).

@Youthman 4 года назад

Completely agree

@inglouriousmofo 4 года назад

Amp/speaker matching can be tricky sometimes, but having way more amp power to speakers can be dangerous. I agree you do need a bit more (25-30% is my general rule) but 2x rms is overkill and just asking for blown speakers.

@Youthman 4 года назад

I’ve used 200wpc for years with a ton of speakers and have never damaged a speaker.

@inglouriousmofo 4 года назад

@@Youthman Yes, and I agree, but that's not a good example. In your case, the speakers may be underrated. Try 2000 watts to a 1000 watt speaker and see what happens. All I was saying is twice the power is not always a good rule to follow. Also you can't always follow receiver wattage specs. 100 watts from a receiver is not always equal to 100 watts from a power amplifier for example. When you push your system, most likely your speakers are seeing a bit lower than that rated receiver power depending on the company.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Common sense has to be used as well. I would have zero issues running a 2000 watt amp with speakers that are rated at 1000 watts. It would be dumb for anyone to turn it wide open. But then again, running a lower wattage wife open is just as dangerous due to distortion and clipping.

@toddroy9558 2 года назад

Youthman, my room is 12’x24’ I’m planning on using two SVS 16” plus ported subs. Now will adding one or two more of those subs, will that allow me to get those real lows?

@thecollectorscrypt4792 2 года назад

How did you connect your klipsch subs together? I have the same subwoofer a d would like to add 2 more. My denon x3700h only has 2 sub ports

@Youthman 2 года назад

Get a Y RCA adapter to split the signal from the AVR to two of your subs.

@brianschulz6462 3 года назад

Thanks for awesome content. You mention efficiency of speakers and sensitivity as well. Do you have a video explaining these? I’m going the route of AVR and hope to acquire a Marantz 8012 but don’t want to buy the wrong speakers. I’ve been considering paradigm but would like more input on selecting speakers. Thanks for all your efforts

@adamrodriguez4027 4 года назад

All i heard was that a man bought two more massive subs based on one movie scene

@howi5065 4 года назад

Grait video man. Realy like your videos and Content, keep up the good work!! 👌 I actualy started building my very first Home theater just 3 days ago, and man i am learning much from your videos. Thanks!!! 😎👍

@Youthman 4 года назад

Congrats! Enjoy the journey

@howi5065 4 года назад

Youthman Thanks! 👍 I am leaning towards Klipsch speakers. Now I just have 5.1 of Dali. But want something bigger and with more punch!! 😎

@vansonmafeet734 4 года назад

I've told my wife I am looking to get a second subwoofer for my theater, which of course she thinks I don't need. Every time we watch a movie I ask her "did you like that?" She says yes of course. So I tell her that everything I've purchased for the home theater I bought for her enjoyment, I'm not being selfish. That seems to work. .....looks like I'll be getting that second sub fairly soon.

@drew5955 3 года назад

Hey bro, love your videos. Always informative and well put together. Content is always great. Question... starting to upgrade my old 5.1 to a 7.2.2 or 7.2.4... started looking into LFR and think I like the R820f for left and right and r34c for center... whats your advice? I noticed in one of your videos u have a regular left or right as a center. Is that absolutely necessary?

@Youthman 3 года назад

An LCR configuration is three identical speakers. This will provide the best performance and an absolute seamless transition when sound pans from one speaker to the next. Is this absolutely necessary? No. It's just the best option.

@ProjectSOG 2 года назад

Very good information and super educational. Thank you so much!

@justinthibodeaux1460 4 года назад

Super informative. Loved hearing your perspective on this!

@bartl006 4 года назад

I think it was Tom Danley (used to work with Jeff P way back in the day) who said that drivers and loundspeakers start getting into non-linearity/distortion at 10% of rated power. Great video! keep it up, and see if you can get a Danley TH-50 in for review. I'd be curious to know how it compares to your current set up

@Youthman 4 года назад

Danley is next level as well. They design subwoofers for Football Stadiums LOL

@JingoLoBa57 4 года назад

Very thoughtful and thorough video. Learned a lot thank you. I hope listeners can distinguish between dialed in and overkill. Maybe a follow up vid on diff scenarios and how to calibrate overkill from just right (or under powered too). Well done. Mind you I guess a virtual reality headset and chair maybe just as effective in communicating the experience you are looking for too. Cheaper and easier to set up, lol. Just not social...

@asifniazi7038 4 года назад

Youthman I have a question as I am confused between Yamaha Rx a3080 and Denon x6500h plz guide me for which I should go as I mostly watch movies and I have Paradigm premier 800f and center Paradigm 600c and surround premier 200b with dual subs svs pb 2000

@Youthman 4 года назад

I haven’t heard the Yamaha receivers in many years. I reviewed the Denon 6400 and felt it did a fantastic job in my setup. I have a review of it on my channel. The 6500 should be an upgrade from it so that would be my preference. I do feel Audyssey does a better job than Yamaha’s YPAO room correction

@akgsbdm9105 4 года назад

My son blew my onkyo HT R340 receiver by swithing on the 120 kw from 220-240 kw, whats the solution

@atorgrotto 4 года назад

Just became a patreon 120db crew, well done videos, also just finished my home theatre with a Marantz AVR with 5 channel amp with the help of your videos, made the decision a no brainer. Made my home theater come to life! Thanks for all you do Michael!

@drew9932 3 года назад

Been playing for years, decades even. But learned so much with this video. Thank you!

@Youthman 3 года назад

Glad to hear it. I learn something new every day

@MalitiaHDOfficial Год назад

Having such powerful subs and over all system, do you have different circuits for something like subs, speakers, etc?

@Bryan-hd7nm 4 года назад

Great video as always youthman! I am looking to upgrade my speakers soon wondering if you can help me out! Looking at new Klipsch reference premier or the Martin Logan’s you unboxed and reviewed not too long ago? Any thoughts? Thanks!

@Youthman 4 года назад

It’s always best to listen with your own ears to find out what your ears prefer. Both are great speakers, but do sound different

@LoudCobra1 4 года назад

Well in my case I could have gone bigger but the layout and size of the room determined the size of my speakers

@stefanoberholzer9943 4 года назад

Hey, so i was watch one of your old video and was wondering if wide front speakers are worth it in your opinion?

@Youthman 4 года назад

I never bought into them unless maybe if you have a really wide room.

@michaelpowell4823 4 года назад

I thought my home system was okay, on the older side but worked. Then I got a new car and I heard things that I had never heard on my home system. I'm looking at upgrading (adding an amp and changing out center/mains) but have found a rabbit hole of information. Is there a good source that lays out the basics and terms? With searches I have done (like every topic now) there is a bunch of cross information; I don't know where to start.

@shaneducholke364 4 года назад

When I built by home theater room 15 years ago, I found a very detailed formula that was used to fi s out the optimum and maximum amp watch to a particular speaker. It used sensitivity, max speaker capability, cable length, room volume and total number of speakers ( I may have missed on or added one, it was a long time ago) you plugged those numbers into 2 different formulas, 1 gives you minimum per channel and the other gave you maximum. I believe max was based on +10 or basically a level you would never listen to. This helped you get the beat performance without hurting your speakers. I bought just above the max and my AVR does not over work or get too hot. I just wish I could find it again. I tho k it was in a really old Sound and Vision Magazine

@dirkbisschoff8946 4 года назад

I fully agree with you Youthman! It's NOT overkill if the amps, speakers & subs are dialed in correctly. Great video 🤘

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you

@bucknertarsney7674 4 года назад

It’s a $$$ spent for value consideration. Sure, on an unlimited budget, more is better, but that is rarely a reality in a low or mid level HT build. Amplification power and speaker efficiency is key, balanced with $$$ invested is highly important.

@path9mm 4 года назад

That's why I went the DIY route.

@Youthman 4 года назад

You can get a lot of value to performance with DIY if you are handy

@DuraMaxDieHard101 3 года назад

I agree with you. I even run 2,000 watts to 12 inch subwoofers in my truck but they're dialed in. I also wanted to say thank you very much for sharing the difference in subwoofer because I am looking for new ones.

@project-5724 4 года назад

Question: Can you have 2 12" subs and introduce a single\dual 15" or a single\dual 18". How will the 2 sizes affect one another? I have 2 sub outs on my receiver.

@Youthman 4 года назад

No issues with using different size subs. I would not recommend mixing ported and sealed subs though as you can get cancellations. Using REW and a miniDSP 2x4HD, you can dial in up to 4 subs, regardless of their sizes

@project-5724 4 года назад

@@Youthman Took me 15 reads - Missing = Mixing - Gotcha! Thanks!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Yikes lol sorry about that

@robwasnj 4 года назад

I've believed this for years and always went big with amps and speakers, you can ALWAYS turns it down as you said. One big question I have, I'm currently using some old 15" vega speakers for bass I have Klipsch RF-7-s however for my mains and I want to get something better and more attractive than my old Cerwin Vegas. I'm looking for the most bass in a smaller package and primarily I listen to music although we do watch movies on the same system. Would a single 18 or maybe two 15's be a good option? Any suggestions much appreciated.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Dual 15’s are still a great option. I rocked them for many years with great results. Depends on room size, listening levels, how deep you want them to extend and your budget

@garryhammond3117 4 года назад

Total agreement Sir. Overdriving and distortion lead to speaker distruction. Of course, one could also go "stupid" and run way too much power into a given speaker.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Yes you still have to use common sense. If you have a 200 watt rms speaker and feed it 1000 watts and try and turn it wide open, you are asking for trouble

@BradleyButlerDrums 4 года назад

Port chuffing is something I wasn’t familiar with but I had an experience with my sub that it made a “fluttery” sound and I had no idea what it was. So I looked up what it was after you said that phrase and sure enough that was the problem. Thanks for the knowledge!

@akjannu 4 года назад

Great Video ! I fully agree with Youthman !! we must have enough headroom in both Amplifier and SW/Speakers to enjoy movies or music. I have a dual 12 inch Sunfire and Dennon 11.2 with Marantz 5 channel power Amp MM 7055 for earlevel speakers sounds great both at high and low volumes !!

@moveezy5591 4 года назад

Some people say my set up is overkill for my small room its 11x11 with 10 foot ceiling and I have a full 7.2.4 set up consisting of emotiva t2 towers emotiva c2 center emotiva e1 as side surrounds and emotiva b1 as rears 2 svs pc2000 subs and 4 svs prime elevation as atmos speakers do you guys think its overkill

@FinnishArmy 4 года назад

I upgraded my TV to a 70" 4K last year. In July, on my birthday; I'm getting a 4K blu-ray player and a 4K 9.2 channel receiver for myself. I'm very excited! Been watching 1080p blurays with 7.1/5.1 surround. I have a full 7.2.2 setup, just no way to fully utilize all the speakers I installed myself. Dolby Atmos is going to be so great!!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Congrats on the upgrades!

@Sensi1995 4 года назад

Lots of good info in this video again thanks!

@michaelbauer6126 4 года назад

The term “overkill” is in my vocabulary but is limited by my budget! I appreciate all the components I’d like to have but know that some are simply not affordable for me! 👍😁

@johnlira3316 4 года назад

Great video learned a lot thx SIR keep the videos coming when are we getting a demo?? I know of the copy right but what about of the subs moving or you watching a movie in mute so we can see ur face reaction lol

@Youthman 4 года назад

Check out this video for a demo - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oj7gYi5i-aI.html

@TransformationalGaming 4 года назад

I'm like you I need a DSP. I need to understand how noise cancellation works... But to be honest I am really struggling with the room correction like audyssey. I just don't think I've bought in yet..

@davidtallott3070 4 года назад

IMAX audio engineers speak of head room in a RU-vid video discussing there speakers and amp. They use a a really great example with driving a car either flooring it all the time or having enough power in the engine to go faster when needed. Thanks for your videos youthman always learning from you.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Glad you are finding the content helpful.

@mgdotto1 4 года назад

Wow super super super informative I am trying to build my system and don’t want to make mistakes THANK YOU!!!! SO MUCH

@Youthman 4 года назад

Glad to help

@shadrachjackson752 4 года назад

Wow! That is.... Wow! I like it. I understand it. I probably would do something similar to that if I had the opportunity. I wonder what it sounds like. I wonder how far can you hear that away from the house. I wonder if you can hear that from maybe a couple blocks away.

@marcusrios8517 3 года назад

Since you brought up SVS, have you had a chance to check out the the SVS Prime Elevation speaks for Atmos? I'm really stuck between those and the Klipsch RP500SA.

@Youthman 3 года назад

No I haven’t heard them

@brawlman 4 года назад

Excellent summarization... Well done 👍

@kevonmanuel 4 года назад

What about speakers with cheap crossover parts? Can those parts handle more power?

@Youthman 4 года назад

Your ears will tell you when a speaker is reaching its limits. Feed them clean power without them distorting and you should be fine

@stephenbarnes8817 4 года назад

I’ve always had a saying. Too much is never enough

@dennisbohner6876 4 года назад

What needs to be considered is voltage drop from the power line and the efficiency of the amplifier. If you go all in then you need dedicated lines and if you choose certain amps you can pump 220/240 volts which passes considerably more power to the device. If your amp is designed to run Class 'A', you will need to compensate for the lack of efficiency (usually 75% of the power is turned to heat). If you move up the ladder to newer designs, such as Class 'D', efficiency can exceed 90%. With the Class 'D' you can get more power delivered to your speakers with less waste heat (think ventilation issues, ease of placement), weight and a SMALLER power line. The better power amp modules are sonically indistinguishable from the better traditional designs. So it's not just the speakers which create choke-points for reproduction volumes. You want to get nuts, get a highly efficient amp, speakers and a power line with no other draws than the amp. With a good Class 'D' receiver you should be able to avoid the need of an off board amp. Even if you are venturing into crazy loud then consider the same design as IMPORTANT in an outboard amp. One other added benefit of coll running amplifier, they should last longer. Heat is one of the destructive forces working on your electronics. It's also eco-friendly. Especially when you are running your A/C to go Class 'D'.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Good info!

@Dirtywhtboy87930 4 года назад

Dennis Bohner that is why I have a small breaker box at the meter base. I ran all 10 gauge wire as a dedicated circuit for my home theater, actually three runs. One for my electronics that my monster cable power distribution box is plugged into. Another one for my main amps. The last one for my subwoofer duty using QSC RMX pro audio amplification. Now I’m satisfied that everything is truly getting full power.

@jessicaembers924 2 месяца назад

I've got overkill in an efficiency apartment? I've got eight 15" band speakers with horns wired in series parallel with a 1,000 watt Allen Heath powered mixer, and a 3 way 540 watt studio monitor system. They blend phenomenal, i like that old school new school approach.

@drwinlied 4 года назад

Not even someone being killed by their own system ("Death by Stereo", Lost Boys, 1987) would be considered overkill. Spend any time on forums/youtube and you'll soon realize (not that you don't already) that in this industry, more is never enough. Also, save yourself some money and stay away from forums/youtube.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Love the last sentence 😂😂😂

@icantthinkofanoriginalname7818 3 года назад

Omar japhet Landeros gonzalez are you there head of advertising

@daveycrockett5738 3 года назад

Lol love the profile pic, Kurt Russell, big trouble in little China’s classic. Also lost boys, another classic. Lol good advice!

@Youthman 3 года назад

That Yamaha only plays down to 32Hz. It’s designed for venues where they play music that doesn’t have low frequencies. I’ll stick with my JTR Captivator RS2’s that play flat down to 5Hz.

@daveycrockett5738 3 года назад

Youthman ya me to youthman, I’ll stick with Jtr, cap4000 should be getting in about 3 weeks or so.

@imissmypeep2209 4 года назад

I would love to hear your set up! I recently moved into a travel trailer and had to sell all my surround sound equipment. When I get a house again some day I'll be extremely excited to get a home theater system together. With two subs this time. Though I won't be able to afford anything like you have ! Lol, lordy. Great video.

@ARSENALS-cn8mv 3 года назад

SIR I REALLY DO RESPECT ABT THE LOVE ND KNOWLEDGE U HAV FOR THE HOME THEATERS ND AUDIO SYSTEMS..I NEVER MISSED A SINGLE VIDEOS OF YOURS..KEEP IT UP..🇦🇺🦘🦘

@JesusISdaonlyway 4 года назад

You illustrated that a single subwoofer may struggle to pressurize your room. Where as, more of them working together can share the load and makes it that they all work less for a cleaner sound and maintain health of the equipment! That just makes so much sense. I experienced that with a Polk + Marantz SR8001 set up I had. I had four speakers (no subwoofer) and I noticed how just two of them on would struggle but when I turned all four on, the sound especially at louder volumes seemed to make my walls disappear. I also noticed that when all four speakers were on, the excursion of all the woofers was less but the sound was more and I was able to turn the amp up higher without distortion. I love how scientific this stuff is. Yeah I'm a nerd! Beautiful explanation though!

@zionbit1234 4 года назад

Svs pb16 In a room of 4/3 meters is over?

@gilbertrios5283 3 года назад

Wow this is HT 101, I wish I had had a video like this one to guide me into this crazy hobby when I first started back in the 90's... Some great info here for the rookie! Now as far as overkill is concerned, I've been at this game for many years and I have not gotten to that point...With my years of experience, I've improved the quality of my ht by buying better components, and bigger subs because when it comes to bottom end, bigger is better! By doing that, I have no problem pushing my ht to reference level with no strain! And that to me is Sonic Bliss!

@C--A 2 года назад

Yeah bigger subs are better as long as they are good performing subs and you have the space available to accommodate them. And yep that's the key having the headroom to hit the home reference level if you choose to play at that level. But 8 or more massive subs playing hot way over the home reference level is overkill! It will give a inaccurate bass presentation plus damage your ears hearing in the mid to long term.

@danielj.glowny4108 4 года назад

What movie has low frequency at 20 hz. or lower ? You must use frequency generator for such low bass that you love. I have six power sub woofers in my system, three of the power subs are used for the low frequency channel. I use full size JBL speakers for all channels.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Lots of movies have sub 20Hz content. Google for a long list

@Guitar387 4 года назад

Would it be overkill ? Absolutely not ! I love this man 😂😂😂

@SrinathKanugovi 4 года назад

good info @Youthman ... thank u 😊

@mitch7983monkey 4 года назад

Just so everything can blend seamlessly I made sure to include the WF Factor at 22:30 mark! Great topic and video, Big Thumbs Up!!!

@nonametofame 4 года назад

Yes, definitely. This was touched on in your video regarding subwoofers, but having too large of speakers for a small space can present issues. You will introduce significant room gain in bass, if you're not able to pull them away from the walls/corners. This will result in requiring proper room treatment (which isn't cheap) and appropriate room correction to tame excessive bass frequencies, which can cause bloating and unevenness. So, yes, you can overpower your room with too much displacement. Every room is different, so you need to do the proper research.

@dc2prashant 4 года назад

Thanks sir very informative

@mdjak3686 3 года назад

Always a fantastic day when you post.

@Youthman 3 года назад

Appreciate it MDJAK

@markkaupas8921 3 года назад

I had to come back and listen to your video again. Just like seeing a movie twice because you enjoy watching it.

@rmasushige 4 года назад

Another great video Michael! It's official, I need more subs and amps 😁

@offshorevids7073 4 года назад

Love you sight!!! Avid viewers here! Sure do wish you would also review HOME THEATER SEATING...especially the BIG & TALL seats. Seems like nobody on RU-vid does this. Keep up the great vids!!!

@Youthman 4 года назад

I have several home theater seating reviews on my channel. Look up Valencia Tuscany, Valencia Verona and Valencia Oxford on my channel. I have not reviewed any Big and Tall seats though.

@wendellgayheart9228 4 года назад

I agree Youthman 👍... it’s kinda like pleasing a woman...small can be enuff but bigger is better because a man doesn’t have to work it as hard 😁

@Youthman 4 года назад

😂😂😂

@williamtoth6186 4 года назад

But if you got it you’re gonna use it all. Right?

@chrispatterson2115 4 года назад

@@williamtoth6186 dam right

@mikan004 4 года назад

Wow bro

@glynmatthews678 11 месяцев назад

That's a great way of explaining it ...youthman should borrow that 😂

@paulmcwilliams8641 4 года назад

I got rid of my centre speaker a couple of years ago. It sounded okay, but I sit within 3 meters of my TV and the voices of actors lost realism. The audio seemed unconnected to the cast, when one actor was on the left of screen having a conversation with someone right of screen, yet both voices eminated from the centre. I am much happier now, especially when just watching a stereo TV programme. I don't have a sub either, because I kept forgetting to switch it off and my mains have enough bass for me. So for me a sub and a center speakers are overkill for me, once I am fully engaged with what is being screened I am not really concentrating too much on the audio. It's totally different when I listen to my two channel hifi system, no subs there either though.

@Guitar387 4 года назад

I have a very modest budget home cinema system , REL 400 sub ,Denon 2600 and four mission lx 2 speakers and a mission lx centre speaker , I have two monitor audio radius 45 for atmos. My room is only 12 foot square and it’s enough. But I love watching audiophile you tubers like this man.

@nimlil 4 года назад

Also, the more subwoofers, the more even the bass is thruout the room (less room modes), so as you said, you don't end up over driving them to fill out the lulls or holes in areas that may not be getting enough bass (even thou other area's may be getting too much . You've talked about room modes in other videos but I don't think you mentioned them here when you were commenting about adding 2 or three more subs ;-)

@Youthman 4 года назад

That is certainly a great point.

@johnf517 4 года назад

Overkill is what you feel before you get accustomed to the upgrade and then realize it's time for overkill again... I have 2 x SVS PB16s.. I thought those were overkill... Now I want the JTRs you got... LOL

@KlipschHead281 4 года назад

Very well done video, I have tried explaining there is no such thing as overkill to people since 1978! Explaining distortion, clipping etc.... I'm going to point people to this video, thanks. The other thing I have to explain is phase, for some people some people can't tell when speakers are out of phase, back in the day it seemed most stereo stores had speakers hooked up this way, drove my ears insane.

@bassproable 3 года назад

Hmm that's a bit of a personal choice. I played live music for years and had different rigs for different venues. So really it depends on your space and room dynamics.

@IGB231085 4 года назад

Just to add to another great advice video. Impedance dips are also demanding on amplifiers especially some receivers

@Youthman 4 года назад

That is very true. My RF7’s have impedance dips down near 2ohm. Didn’t think to mention that.

@IGB231085 4 года назад

@@Youthman obviously when buying higher end electronics they can usually deal with such issues

@edwinanstey5123 4 года назад

I have a question for you Michael(@Youthman). Ever since you got your friend (who had that insane JTR Home Theatre, I can't remember his name) help you dial in your Captivators with your miniDSP, I had a question that has been bugging me. What if you used the miniDSP on the SVS PB16-Ultra's? Now of course you will get more output with the JTR's, but I remember you mentioning how much of a difference it made to your JTR's after properly dialing them in. To late to test now, but what if you dialed the PB16-Ultra's the same way. Would they of giving you enough response to satisfy your ears per say? I know what you mean by having overkill is good with headroom but with properly dialed in equipment would there truely be a need to go with excessive equipment. The Captivators are 2.67 times more powerful rms over the pb16-ultra so roughly speaking 3-4 db more output in theory. Just a thought that's all. I'm becoming more of a Rythmik fan these day, never ever owned an svs. Budgets dont allow for any upgrades right now lol. Can only window shop and research. Happy Easter and have a great day 😃

@Youthman 4 года назад

Great questions Edwin. The PB16’s have a limited 3 band PEQ (Parametric EQ, nor do they have a method of time aligning them (delay). The miniDSP offers soooo much more the. The DSP in the SVS subs. Port chuffing is a reality for most ported subs. You don’t get that with sealed subs. Lastly, the PB16’s go down to around -7Hz then drop very rapidly. The RS2’s are flat down to 10Hz in my room. In every way, the RS2’s are just next level.

@edwinanstey5123 4 года назад

@@Youthman ahhh yes, thanks for reminding me on the roll off. I had forgotten about that. That truely is a game changer! And port chuffing would definitely be an issue. I can see why the JTR's would be the favored sub!😀 On a side note, would you ever down the road consider reviewing any Rythmik subs. Would Love to hear your opinion on such subs. Especially from someone who truely knows quality bass. Keep these videos coming man, always look forward to your content!! 👍

@Youthman 4 года назад

Yes, I reached out to them awhile back and never heard back from them so I moved on.

@edwinanstey5123 4 года назад

@@Youthman brutal .... makes me sad to hear that ☹

@edwinanstey5123 4 года назад

Maybe one day I'll give you a review lol 🤣🤣

@merwynvincent 4 года назад

Wow not many ppl talk abt these things. I'm surprised that a subwoofer worth 3000$ too flap around when it's loud. I believed a svs 18" sub would just complete my system!!! Presently I have two Rockford fosgate T2 built into my custom boxes which does a very neat job in reproducing low end till 14hz. But it flaps around when I crank up to 0db. Till now I thought it does that as I designed the box and system. U really put a light into the topic most reviews won't tell about their $3000 subwoofers.... Very honest review. Thanks......👍

@Youthman 4 года назад

I think it would be great if SVS made an 18”.

@merwynvincent 4 года назад

@@Youthman When I have saved enough to buy a svs, I hope they have an18" then!!!!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Don’t hold your breath lol

@tomfaro6259 4 года назад

I like your channel. But I want to get a good 2 channel receiver. I'm done with home theater. Do you think a rn803 Yamaha set up with polk tower and old velodyne subs would be good. I am not against 2 channel. Great video

@Youthman 4 года назад

Hi Tom. I’m not familiar with that receiver as I’m mostly home theater

@aaronz7267 4 года назад

that cracking sound sounds like the voicecoil former smashing against the magnet! probably damaged them a little bit!!! i have ran much higher end car audio subwoofers as well as reconed plenty of them!

@LifeofBliss 4 года назад

I definitely think there's a point of diminishing returns when it comes to spending money on components. But overkill is subjective. I think there are always products and people that will push the limits of what can be done at home. I personally don't believe there is overkill if you are working within your budget and the space is an enjoyable experience

@Youthman 4 года назад

Agree. It makes for good conversation

@aslanbarsk 3 года назад

Great video :)

@whozthisguy 4 года назад

i'm wondering, with the massive subs you have behind your acoustically transparent screen, do you ever notice deep heavy bass affecting the screen? moving it, vibrating it, distorting it?

@Youthman 4 года назад

I'm glad you asked, I just made a video on that today - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ftEuS3sMq2U.html

@whozthisguy 4 года назад

i just found that you had already answered this question in a previous video from Dec '19. "Home Theater | JTR Captivator RS2 Subwoofer Unboxing and Overview" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WqBFAjljPdY.html at the 12minnute mark. my bad!

@HomeCinemaJunkie 4 года назад

Hehe, I have a single Velodyne spl 800i 8 inch and it feels like that thing could tear down my house if im not carefull. Cant even imagine what 2x 15 or 16" woofers would do...

@Youthman 4 года назад

I have owned 4 Velodyne subs over the years (CT-100, F1500 and two HGS15’s) and none of them I ever felt were about to tear down my house and the HGS15’s each had a 15” woofers with a 1250 RMS / 3000 watt peak amp.

@Evil_Peter 4 года назад

I'd say that overkill should be seen as balancing gain and budget. For example, if you have amplification that lets you play at your desired listening level without any distortion or other negative effects it will be overkill to increase amp power (since you already have the headroom you need, and amplifier quality is something different) if that means that you can't spend as much on something else, like room treatment which often is something that is very neglected relative to the effort put into the audio system. When money isn't a factor then I agree that there is no problem with overkill.

@diywithalittlehelp9162 4 года назад

Hey bud. Liked this video, I agree mor the better! Do you by chance know anyone in southeast Wisconsin that might be willing to help me out with tuning my 18" Dayton UM18-22? I have a umik1 etc..

@budgetaudiophile6048 4 года назад

What's crazy about those LaScallas being 104dB sensitive at 1W is that's the LEAST sensitive driver. When you draw your LPAD it's setup based on the LEAST sensitive driver in the array. That's usually the woofer. That's wild to think of what your tweeter is capable of.