Climate Change: "An APPALLING Scam!" w/ Jordan Peterson 

Watch Full Episode on LOCALS now: mattfradd.locals.com/post/5610491/jordan-peterson-interview

You know it's a good video when RU-vid tries to save us with the "Context" box.

I don't know why YT feels the need to use the United Nations as a source for a science topic. It's a POLITICAL organization.

This has been a difficult topic to tackle with fellow parishioners. It feels like I'm a bad Cath for not just going along with it but when I'm so familiar with the holes in the argument it I struggle with confusion

So looking forward to this full interview! Huge thanks to Jordan Peterson for being willing to come on!

One "Context Box" is worth 100,000 upvotes in my world. Watching right now.

“The fossil fuel revolution saved the planet.”

“Green tax” won’t sell as well as “carbon tax”

Love how YT places "context" blurbs under these videos as if to say "don't listen to the video, here's the real truth". lol

1:10 Matt Fradd - Humility without confidence is false humility. Be simultaneously humble and confident. I learned that from Our Lady, the Queen of Heaven; she is both humble and confident. ❤

cant wait for this to come out

More plants? Awesome! But I don't understand how anyone can be unaware of or unconcerned by the rapidly increasing frequency of extreme weather as well as regional climate change. Sure, India and China are more green, but California and much of the west is experiencing aridification. Sea levels really are rising and houses in places like the Carolinas are literally falling into the sea. (Even if your waterfront property isn't falling into the sea, it is at the very least, a heck of a lot more expensive to insure these days.) Extreme heat waves are more and more common everywhere in the US and regularly kill people. And yes, of course it's not all warming, sometimes it is just more energy in the system and therefore more intensity and unpredictability in our weather, resulting in things like that freak snowstorm in Texas a few years ago. This is to say nothing of the increase in floods, wildfires, and tornados in the US and around the world. Is the world ending? No. But when you put all these things together, it is impossible to deny that there are already obvious, rapid climate changes happening all around us. Christians of all people should be both interested in good stewardship of our environment and in being willing to recognize that the condition of our natural environment is directly tied to our human sinfulness. And there is obviously no shortage of sin these days.

CO2 for plants may be good, but our main food crops are dying from the increased heat & drought. Anyone check olive oil prices the past few years? I'd wager the "20% greener" is just weeds, on land that we can't cultivate anyway. Is he suggesting a dandelion diet for all of us?

I love Jordan's Jacket.

“Disciples of the Internet “ … love it

Love it! Thank You Jordan!!!! 🥰🥰

the positive effects on vegetation may not persist indefinitely if temperatures continue to rise unchecked. The 3 main crops, wheat maize and rice can't grow in excessively hot temperatures.

Plants may be growing more but it isn't counteracting the increased temperature. And Peterson can't point to a single model, not even of the oil producers themselves, that shows increased C02 works out well for civilization. Of course, it would be nice to see some good-faith push back from the host.

Even if everything they claimed about the causes and effects where true (it isn't), the answer still would not be to become an authoritarian tyranny that punishes dissent. Everyone has plans, and everyone has failed plans; does it make more sense to trust in current politicians and go all in on their plans, effectively cutting off all other avenues of progress, or does it make more sense to trust in the collective brilliance of citizens and of humanity to identify specific problems and tailor effective solutions as they occur? Imagine if during the Horse Manure crisis of 1894 we simply went all in on restricting growth and progress for the purpose of minimizing horse manure instead of allowing humanity to continue on to innovations like the automobile which completely eradicated the issue in its entirety? We need the marketplace of ideas to see which are most effective and successful for the most people and for the longest time. What the government wants is to have a monopoly on this market of ideas where only the ones they approve of get any attention or funding, and everything they disapprove of gets restricted, punished, and eradicated.

Consider this scenario: As CO2 increases, and global temperature warms slightly, the planet (on the whole) becomes more suitable to plant life. However, once the global temperature becomes too hot for that additional plant life to survive, it begins to die off en masse. That extra carbon dioxide uptaken by those plants plants during photosynthesis then gets re-emitted into the atmosphere, accentuating the warming trend and killing off additional plant life. Such is the notion of tipping points, AKA the classic "too much of a good thing" scenario. Atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration isn't the ONLY factor that regulates vegetation patterns, temperature, etc.; it's one of many forcing mechanisms. The fact there are 8+ billion humans on the planet for the first time ever is a testament to our remarkably stable climate, which we've enjoyed for the last ~11,000 years. If we push things too far, we risk destabilizing that. Exactly how far is "too far" is where the uncertainty in climate science lies, as the climate system is a tangled web of complex forcing mechanisms & feedback loops. But that level of uncertainty is not our friend.

If you're picking the time frame that suits your hypothesis - that isn't science.

Birds singing at 4:00 A.M. help the stromata of plants open and so does some classical music. Some farmers have increased their yields by playing it.

Great chip! Can't wait to see the whole Interview!!

Terrific discussion. Thanks gentlemen..

When will the full video be released to RU-vid?

Can’t wait for the full interview! God bless! ❤️🙏🙏

Thanks for the climate change posting on this RU-vid. Without it I wouldn't of ever known or heard about this. Keep going, you're killing it

Excellent presentation of facts! In addition, in Medieval Era, there were considerably less trees than now. Why? They used wood for fuel.

😂LOVE Jordan Peterson!

Hey Matt! I know that this is just a clip so we are watching it out of context. I work at NASA and would love to answer questions pertaining to this if you would ever want to chat.

Freedom of speech and content is limited by the all-seeing 'Blue Box". I believe this is a crime. The platform is not a publisher, not the content creator, and not the actual customer.

The truth is being revealed. Love it. This will be a hard one for swallow for many, but after the revelations of the last few years, not impossible.

Does anyone know the study about crop yield and greenness? I'm really interested in reading them. Also look at the Sahel Region in Africa, it's the desert shrinking thing.

What Dr. Peterson says is not entirely accurate. CO2 has traditionally been around 280 ppm during recorded human history, although there have been times millions of years ago when it was thousands of ppm. During the last ice age which peaked 20,000 years ago, it was 190 ppm, and not all plants died then, there were still plenty of plants in places that remained warm enough (although the ice age was not mainly caused by the difference in CO2, it was mainly caused by changes in Earth's tilt and orbit). The historic 280 in modern times started rising in the 1700s, and the first person to suggest it could warm the climate was in the late 1800s. The idea faced competition with claims about global cooling in the 20th century, because some scientists thought that increased air pollution blocking the sun was more important than the increased greenhouse effect from CO2. Since the 1970s, temperatures have risen more, which caused the idea of global warming to take over climate science. CO2 is now at 420 ppm, and is rising by more than 2 per year. Meanwhile, the environmental movement took off in the 60s in response to separate issues. Environmentalism was associated with the left because of being pro-regulation, and became entangled with other issues related to cultural battles. Eventually the movement became focused on the climate. This is why there is a left-right divide on global warming. Although this divide is not innate, and I am concerned about the issue, even though I am mostly a conservative.

I suppose the planet is getting greener, especially in the Sahel, where the desert is actually growing, so much so that most countries want to build a "Great Green Wall" to stop it...

It’s relieving that there are a few people with a platform AND intellect. Too commonly it’s one or the other.

People won't even buy toilet paper or tissue paper unless it's dyed white. The idea that we would make massive changes, even if there we could be certain that this would solve the problem, is absurd.

We should watch "An Inconvenient Truth" again, see how the predictions have held up. That could be a good school project for an ambitious young person, or a good case study for a commentator or journalist.

Peterson is very smart about certain topics, this isn't one. The latest IPCC report was crystal clear about rising global temps and the reason behind it. Did we benefit from fossil fuel power? Sure, but it doesn't mean we should continue to use it like we have.

The best argument for taking action to mitigate climate change is that it would be unjust for the global poor to bear the brunt of the externalities produced by industrialization. But very little of the action being taking is designed to help the poor.

This is strange because when I checked online it said the planet was 5 percent greener not 20 percent over the past 20 years and that the majority of the greening was a result of tree-planting projects in China and India not because of increased CO2. "The last person I talked to was Patrick Moore, he started Greenpeace..." Did he? Greenpeace began as the Don't Make a Wake Committee in 1970 and Moore joined in 1971. He was a member when it changed its name to Greenpeace, but he didn't found the original organization.

So i want to know the explanation how south east asia is heating up with temp reaching 53'C specifically in the philippines.

There is a lost reality that the primary usage of crude oil is NOT for the generation of electricity, but to manufacture derivatives and fuels which are the ingredients of everything needed by economies and lifestyles to exist and prosper, i.e., all products that did not exist pre-1800’s. “Big oil” only exists because of the wealthier countries being addicted to the products and fuels that are manufactured from fossil fuels that makes OUR life more comfortable?” OUR needs for smaller and faster electronics, and for bigger and faster planes, ships, and launches into outer space are the only reasons that crude oil is needed. Thus, before we chastise “big oil” for impacting climate change, we need to ask ourselves “How dare ME to continuously demand the products and fuels made from oil that makes MY life more comfortable”? • “Big oil” represents the SUPPLY side of the equation. • Our needs for products from oil represent the DEMAND side of the equation. If you don’t like “Big oil”, stop using the products made from oil !

God bless Jordan Peterson

RU-vid “context box” is actually very useful, when you see it you should really pay attention to what is said in the video because it’s the inconvenient truth that RU-vid doesn’t want you to know

All those worried about Carbon Dioxide; STOP EXHALING!

Is that the Patrick Moore who is engaged with the fossil fuels industry?

I’m “kinda fond of plants”. Great video. Ο Θεός να ευλογεί.

What is the link to this study about 20% greener planet in 100 years, absolutely fascinating!

So the point was, a lot of the stuff we read on the Internet that seems credible, isn’t.

I love when you tube puts their little “context” bar at the bottom of videos, because it helps me know the video is saying something true lol.

Am I the only one who absolutely loves his jacket? Where can I get that?😂

Very interesting. Thanks Matt

Ha! I love this!

The benefits may be mixed, of course. If parts of the world become too hot and humid for humans, we'll have to abandon them or air-condition our homes a lot. We could always have refrigerated clothing if we have the money. Of course, a lot of people can hardly even afford food in our corrupt systems. Then there's the acidification of the oceans - coral doesn't seem to be adapting too well to this: are those ecosystems adapting or dying off?

I think one of the things that happens when you start being exposed to a wide range of conflicting facts is that you actually start to understand how unsettled even the basic science is in most situations. Most of what passes as 'the settled science' is nothing of the sort." This is something that doesn't bother me at all, because there have been so many times that "the settled science" has either been falsely titled as such by propagandists, or else has been proven wrong. I grew up hearing people talk about Jesus Mythicism as though it was a settled historical fact, and that Jesus being based off of all these other "dying and rising gods born of a virgin on December 25" was a fact. Rather than relying on what "the scholars say", I instead investigated it myself. Now, to the scholarly community, my saying that this was the mainstream narrative sounds laughable, but to the populous it's not. The majority of common people I run into on the streets actually believe there is no historical evidence for Jesus, and either it's a fake, or we "just have to have faith". It is because of the internet and the work of apologetics that we're seeing a shift, but this is the reason you see so many atheists laughing at Christian apologists in the comments, -they're still holding onto old dogmas that they were actual lies. But on the scholarly level, we also see this in the Documentary Hypothesis and the Anonymous Authorship of the Gospels. I'm not going to go against the science of Evolution, the Big Bang, and the Age of the Earth, but I have seen the hand-waving of evidence opposing the mainstream narrative on these authorships. So no, I don't always trust "the settled science", because sometimes the "settled science" is paid for by propagandists. So when the "Settled science" rears it's ugly head, I prefer to check if it's relevant or not, and if so, then I will seek to study it to the best of my own ability.

Interesting.

This is hilarious. Under the video title RU-vid is showing me "context" about climate change, with a link to a UN article of indoctrination.

Excellent episode. Every Christian, Jew, and Muslim, as well as Hindus who believe in God, should watch the full episode, and pay attention when JBP says that to believe in God, is to act like it, ALL THE TIME. We will fail to, but the goal is in front of us.

Great to hear John Eldridge's excellent podcast mentioned!

what a tease

Come on, guys. I'm a devout Catholic - we should all be able to agree that there are basic measures we should be taking to take care of the earth. How about we start with lessening the immediate harms on our children, like child asthma and microplastics in our food and water. I struggle to understand why this issue is so contentious among Catholics other than maybe resentment toward bad representatives of the movement like Greta Thunberg.

Anyone have a source on the deserts shrinking? I know the planet overall is greening, I got the nasa source. But that doesn't mean that deserts are shrinking, all I can see is that they are getting larger......

Jordan looks great in that jacket. Love it. He would look better clothed in Christ in the Catholic Church. Praying he comes home! 🙏

Desert camel spiders and lizards are losing their habitat to trees, monkeys, and other lizards.

Context box is the new border collie herding the sheep

I'm not so sure I'm excited for this episode anymore on Pints... I love this channel for learning about Catholic/Christian stuff, but - don't get me wrong I like Jordan Peterson, and have learned plenty from him - I'm not particularly excited to have that co-opted by Peterson for whatever he's on about at the moment. I understand Jordan has a foot in the Christian camp so it's interesting to have him on the show to discuss topics of faith, but to have teasers from the interview that are just a platform for his views on climate change...it's not a discussion. It's just Jordan telling Matt what he thinks, and that's it. I'll wait to see how the full interview pans out, but I really hope there are more instances of peer to peer discussion on christian/catholic spirituality (which Matt you *are* more knowledgeable on, you KNOW the risen Christ) not just Jordan utilising your channel for his views, and you borrowing Jordan for growing the audience.

For reference the Amazon forest is 7 million km², the contiguous united states is around 8 million km².

Living proof of that ‘conservative intellectual’ is an oxymoron.

I love his jacket too!

"Consuming fossil fuels saved the planet". Trying saying that out loud at the next social gathering you attend 😂

PLEASE bring John Eldredge on!

Love Jordan’s Catholic art jacket!

I don't really know alot climate change. However there is one thing that is indisputable. Something is going on. There are droughts and the storms are much stronger than they were I would say 20 years ago. Example i am from Louisiana and when i was a teenager i never evacuated for a storm. Now i am an adult and i evacuate at least once every 2 years. Just saying. Call it what you want but we only have one earth we need to take care of it!

I don't tryst him since he started wearing those joker suits.

❤

G.K. Chesterton's Distributism Or localism

BIG oof from JP on this. One of the biggest issues with global warming is the speed of change. Fact of the matter is, we’re seeing temperature rises that typically happen over thousands upon thousands of years, occuring within a century. This means that ecosystems don’t have time to adapt, leading to (more) mass extinction events, and also other fast moving runaway processes that further warm the climate in a short period of time. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see the writing on the wall. If we keep going the way we are, we’re gonna be in for a very tough couple of centuries. Consider it this way - whenever change is introduced at a rapid pace into a system, or series of connected systems, some form of disruption and chaos always follows. We’ve seen this happen time and time again throughout all facets of life. We ourselves will have experienced this personally in some way (perhaps a change of leadership, that then leads to a restructuring with an organisation, and subsequent layoffs) Sorry to say, but I think JP is way off the mark on this one…

Hearing an alternative hypothesis does not harm you! It’s ok to hear other hypothesis. Experts get diet, climate, medical, foreign policy, etc wrong more than they get it right.

Thankfully, there is a context box to save us all from the MiSNifOrMATioN!!

Oh, you tease.

Coral reefs are dying due to increased temperatures, and glaciers are melting at an unprecedented rate.

The problem I have with the counter movement against climate change isn’t their challenging of CC’s science and its proponents, or with their distrust of its secular components, it’s the encouragement felt by many within the counter party to be totally flippant about the things we use and how do actually harm our environment, to worship material progress and to prop up big businesses who are not advocating for the sake of those below their own tax brackets, not on some abstract, inscrutable global scale, but on the local level. I’ve seen what this careless does with my own eyes.

Damn, this Peterson drip is mad! It looks so good!

NASA has been studying global warming for a long time and thinks it’s very real with severe consequences.

Thanks for the useful idiocy. Sincerely, Exxon-Mobil

Not sure how I feel about that suit., which image does he sit on?

Is Peterson's jacket covered with "Far Side" cartoons? 😂

Jordan is right in my opinion but he was off by 100ppm CO2 when he quoted a couple numbers. Plants die at 150ppm CO2 not 250ppm as he said. We're at about 420ppm now and rising having been as high as 5000-7000ppm historically. There is science out there that questions the 280ppm minimum we hit during the last northern hemisphere glaciation and presumably all previous glaciations too. Since those numbers are largely derived from the analysis of trapped air held within bubbles frozen within ice in Antarctica and Greenland the new science questions those numbers based upon the mechanics and time taken to freeze that air within the bubbles consequently making the 280ppm value somewhat low with suggestions around 380-400 being more probable with fluctuations as the earth goes through warming and cooling cycles. Remember that temperature drives CO2 not the other way around. If 380-400 is more likely, our current measured values as set out in graphs like the Keeling Curve are not all that unusual. Also, very recent science has adjusted the percentage of the CO2 in the atmosphere due to human activities from about 3% to 2% so it is possible that humans are not greening the planet as much as Patrick Moore suggests. Bottom line is that the science is not settled and very rarely should be as Jordan alluded to and any real scientist knows. As Jordan has said in another video, it is difficult to separate the politics from the science when it comes to the "climate change" narrative we are inundated by.

Thank God for that man!!!!!! I get blue on the face trying to explain that to climate change fear mongers and they dont get it!!

So what we happened to do was not bad! But we only have one atmosphere, therefore should we not try to control the changes we make?

He needs to understand what he is saying there is indeed more plant life now and CO2 levels are still at historic highs, which means that these higher level of plants are not adequate to sequester the CO2.

I like Pints and JBP but can we keep this channel about Catholicism? I come here for religion, not politics.

This episode will break the internet

The channel "All About Climate" addresses all these claims.

The problem is that you can't assume somebody that is credentialed is automatically correct because they are credentialed, and you can't assume somebody is not correct if they are not credentialed...

The Internent is not our friend?

Now ask Peterson how much he is paid by the Fossil Fuel Industry.

I think the overall point here is that climate science as being preached by many activists isn't as simple as is described.. That's the point here. He also mentions here that rapid charge is an objective issue. The issue is climate activists want to debate on the matter, it's like we've got this all figured out and you've got to agree with us. That's not credible at all, and it ignores the number of world leading scientists....including nobel laureates in climate related fields who are skeptical of mainstream climate science

The greening is. NASA says CO2’s direct contribution since 1989 is 14%.