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@reminders8657
@reminders8657 Месяц назад
Dang... Peterson is soooooo persuasive here. I almost believed him... until I read the disclaimer RU-vid put on this video about climate change. That was close.
@user-bh8bc4qb7y
@user-bh8bc4qb7y Месяц назад
Great point
@1stdebunker
@1stdebunker Месяц назад
love this, good one
@sddyck
@sddyck Месяц назад
😂
@blujay9191
@blujay9191 Месяц назад
I feel for you. I had a similar experience with Dr. John Campbell and the jab.
@Brandon-0300
@Brandon-0300 Месяц назад
🤣 make sure we never think for ourselves
@faevoryn6578
@faevoryn6578 Месяц назад
RU-vid puts a note prominently under this video, making sure we know what we are "supposed" to think about the topic being discussed.
@yassinsuleiman655
@yassinsuleiman655 Месяц назад
I'm on mobile and I can't see anything, is it on desktop?
@Crocoroar
@Crocoroar Месяц назад
@@yassinsuleiman655 Yes. It is the generic wikipedia note quoting UN about how climate change is real. They automatically slap these notes on any topic that the left politically disagrees with.
@pingislife2653
@pingislife2653 Месяц назад
​@@yassinsuleiman655, I'm on mobile also. For me there is a context bubble telling me what climate change is and an external link.
@michaelcrawford6325
@michaelcrawford6325 Месяц назад
I see it on my Samsung. A very progressive take offered by Google on climate change. Thanks Google
@MrBigbadbob09
@MrBigbadbob09 Месяц назад
Similar to Covid "info"
@thomasjefferson5727
@thomasjefferson5727 Месяц назад
Talk about being out gunned. This is like attacking a battleship with a paintball gun.
@jenniek8391
@jenniek8391 29 дней назад
Yeah, Peterson flailed and hollered against literal science.
@HouseParty13
@HouseParty13 29 дней назад
It's like I feel like totally like literal😂
@HomeCinemaJunkie
@HomeCinemaJunkie 27 дней назад
​@@jenniek8391what science? You mean the computer models which leave out the sun and the clouds? Did you even go to grade school?
@dk-bw4gk
@dk-bw4gk 27 дней назад
@@jenniek8391 Yeah, that literal science that involves running climate simulations on a flat earth. That science that needs a CO2 "control knob" to get the results they want.
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA 26 дней назад
@@HomeCinemaJunkie which models would that be? lmao. there have been dozens of models and predictions over the years. they have come either true or things turned out even worse than predicted because the models were very conservative. maybe it's time you stop denying globally established science.
@southaussielad2496
@southaussielad2496 27 дней назад
South Australia has tried to prove to the world a state can run 100% on renewable energy. We have the highest energy prices in the world, we had state wide blackouts for 2 days, we have rolling blackouts in the city every night, rural areas can be without power for days at a time, industry is leaving the state because their energy bills are through the roof. We have an abundance of natural resources that we mine and ship overseas, but no way would we do anything to reduce the prices for the state population. We also buy a lot of our energy from other states. It's gone beyond a joke and is just plain corruption now.
@paulg6274
@paulg6274 26 дней назад
Not being ready for 100% renewable is not the same as "climate is not affected by humans"
@1Mutton1
@1Mutton1 25 дней назад
You have been mislead. Sorry. All the east coast states are part of the grid. All states buy and sell based on how much they are currently producing and need. Blackouts would have been for another reason. Probably underfunding of transmission maintenance.
@sillymesilly
@sillymesilly 24 дня назад
@@paulg6274theres no 100% renewables energy.
@SlickRick12
@SlickRick12 23 дня назад
Just bc it didn’t work for you doesn’t mean that with funding and development it can’t be improved to work as intended right?
@cuatro336
@cuatro336 Месяц назад
The real issue here is that Destiny thinks he's about 3x smarter than he really is.
@gbolt111
@gbolt111 Месяц назад
3x if we are being conservative
@sashabelenky2159
@sashabelenky2159 Месяц назад
He is one of the people who presumed that his ability to speak means that he is capable of thinking.
@searabeara5328
@searabeara5328 Месяц назад
He can remember talking points better than other leftists. That's it
@andrettiadams9483
@andrettiadams9483 Месяц назад
Bro just doodling what is probably stick figures on his notepad makes this 10x funnier
@chivomartinez
@chivomartinez Месяц назад
I'll say he thinks he is smart. He is not.
@francoblu9498
@francoblu9498 Месяц назад
I'll start worrying about climate change when the elites who are telling me I should care stop flying in private planes to discuss how the rest of the world needs to suffer for the cause.
@samvandervelden8243
@samvandervelden8243 Месяц назад
Maybe you shouldn't base your opinion on corrupt elites but on.the scientific conseneus
@francoblu9498
@francoblu9498 Месяц назад
@@samvandervelden8243 whoosh?
@TR-uw2sp
@TR-uw2sp Месяц назад
​@samvandervelden8243 like the scientific consensus paid for and feeding their families from the elites? When it gets a couple degrees warmer I'll take a shirt off. When it gets colder I'll put a jacket on. There is no model or algorithm accurate enough to predict the future climate. More CO2 will result in more plant life at the worst. There have always been natural disasters and always will be.
@tdaveniii
@tdaveniii Месяц назад
@@samvandervelden8243I will rely on the scientific consensus as they demonstrate by their behaviour.
@Sedona119
@Sedona119 Месяц назад
@@samvandervelden8243his point is like it won’t make a difference if you pick up one leaf off of your lawn everyday if a big dump truck comes by and unloads a whole truck full of leaves on your lawn everyday. Your attempts will be futile. Another thing is the US only contributes 15% to CO2 emissions and China is almost double that. You need to start with the biggest monster before fixing the little monsters will make any bit of a difference. But besides, none of it really matters, there will always be pollution. The best thing for people is to develop economically, not try to solve “climate change”.
@MrFallingfromgrace
@MrFallingfromgrace Месяц назад
A sin tax is dramatically different than an energy tax… a sin tax is on something you don’t need while an energy tax is on something you need not want but need to live
@Kyle-sr6jm
@Kyle-sr6jm Месяц назад
Yea, but leftists see energy use as sin.
@caitlinharper1633
@caitlinharper1633 Месяц назад
oh buddy, it's for sure a sin tax. The government is punishing people for using energy because they believe it is "bad".
@HouseParty13
@HouseParty13 28 дней назад
​@@Kyle-sr6jmit's related to the story of Genesis. Earth was a garden of Eden with a perfect climate always. Then you know who(str8 white male patriarchy).....
@jacobsnapp
@jacobsnapp 28 дней назад
@@Kyle-sr6jmsource I made it up in my head
@jsbrads1
@jsbrads1 27 дней назад
@@HouseParty13 the father of all man?
@trailtripper8183
@trailtripper8183 Месяц назад
I am in complete and utter shock that destiny is not hosting The View.
@cleanup8984
@cleanup8984 24 дня назад
This guy literally is a walking Wikipedia..ask him to recite something that's his go to everytime😂😂
@cooterhead_jones
@cooterhead_jones 21 день назад
He’s too good looking.
@NotoriousMinion
@NotoriousMinion 20 дней назад
@@cleanup8984 can you name a single thing he’s ever taken from Wikipedia? 🤣 people love to say this, but it isn’t true. You hear of something, type it in a search engine, look through the wiki to get an overview, and then go find sources and further information elsewhere on what’s summarized on. He has hundreds of hours of streams of him just reading sources. He’s reading a book out loud, reading a UN report, reading investigations, peer reviewed papers, interviews, so on and so forth… I’m curious as to whether the right wingers have anything other than memes. Trump brain rot at its finest, just make funny quips and destroy the world in the process.
@cwx8
@cwx8 19 дней назад
he's bad but he's not THAT bad.
@dusky4151
@dusky4151 Месяц назад
Well, regardless of who "won" im just glad that Jordan is having more black women on his podcast with videos like this one. Great inclusion!
@jamescooke9785
@jamescooke9785 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂
@Deedeedee214
@Deedeedee214 Месяц назад
Needed that. Didn't deserve it, but needed it.
@easymoney7007
@easymoney7007 Месяц назад
Hahahaha!!!
@armondtanz
@armondtanz Месяц назад
That meme will be be passed around more times than his wife...
@nezahuatez
@nezahuatez Месяц назад
You can always tell who not to trust if they think using black women as the butt of a joke is funny. Ugh.
@ChanHolbro
@ChanHolbro Месяц назад
"something weird underneath, something weird that isn't oriented well towards humanity"
@kirkyorg7654
@kirkyorg7654 Месяц назад
they know like everyone else the planet is over populated and they have no problem getting rid of a few million of the poorest people as long as the rich have their way
@bt6202
@bt6202 Месяц назад
Control of Humanity.
@1stdebunker
@1stdebunker Месяц назад
The devil
@shrodingerscat4191
@shrodingerscat4191 Месяц назад
Word!
@G_Ozare
@G_Ozare Месяц назад
Correct.
@kylepatrick113
@kylepatrick113 Месяц назад
I enjoy Jordan Peterson I will also say that’s a bright young man and these are the kind of discussions that need to happen. Very important
@SkitzoBenjamin
@SkitzoBenjamin 26 дней назад
Not a bright young man, you should look into him. You will be very disappointed.
@GBsavant
@GBsavant 17 дней назад
@@SkitzoBenjaminobjectively, regardless of your personal thoughts of him or ideology, he’s a bright guy. He’s better to be the front for the “left” vs the people debating until now. He’s no Michael Erik Dyson, who isn’t stupid either, but what communists called useful idiots.
@lilllwizzzle
@lilllwizzzle 29 дней назад
That point Dr Peterson raised at the end of this clip about faux compassion and elites planning out of "anti dystopian future was beautifully put.
@thesunflowchannel1995
@thesunflowchannel1995 26 дней назад
Clear as day. If they wanted to really reduce CO2 they would plant forests, but instead they’re making us sniff our farts.
@jonnyb6700
@jonnyb6700 Месяц назад
Destiny in trouble with the Principal
@chuch541
@chuch541 Месяц назад
Truly a productive and decent debate. Proud of both of these dudes!
@gstar3569
@gstar3569 Месяц назад
Ya shame she is a little lost hey ( he is a female in spirit)
@bobmyself8819
@bobmyself8819 Месяц назад
Destiny in trouble with the truth and completely over matched yet still impossible to listen too.
@LowkeyHundo
@LowkeyHundo Месяц назад
@@chuch541how can you be proud of someone who says Fed up things like “saving the poor isn’t worth it” and “abortion up until birth is okay”?
@lain5858
@lain5858 Месяц назад
​​@@LowkeyHundo Talk about being dishonest and in bad faith. Destiny's point are: Not every poor is a good person who deserves help. Poverty itself is not a virtue, there is a lot of bad poor people. He is fine with abortion in the first 2 weeks. Very different from "until birth"
@steverapos3904
@steverapos3904 Месяц назад
What is the point of debating people if their goal is simply to win the debate, and not bring us closer to solving the problem or finding the truth?
@shawnhowe7311
@shawnhowe7311 Месяц назад
For Show He is cocky as fuck to
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni Месяц назад
You reveal their techniques and expose who they are.
@TheJollyMisanthrope
@TheJollyMisanthrope Месяц назад
Because RU-vid is full of people that will merely repackage ideas that they have heard/read and present them to their audience, without spending any time whatsoever scrutinizing these ideas in the first place before presenting them. There's a difference between taking apart an idea and trying to understand it, versus regurgitating it and acting as if you understand it. The person that does the latter will typically be exposed when they are asked to defend the idea against someone who has actually spent time analyzing it.
@bembelofdoom1473
@bembelofdoom1473 Месяц назад
you as a consumer may better decide wich opinion is more likely to you
@JesseTate
@JesseTate Месяц назад
Who are you talking about here?
@lg4360
@lg4360 Месяц назад
As a retired scientist, we ALWAYS question the results before coming to a conclusion. They MUST be verifiable and repeatable. Carbon dioxide may very well be a variable in the change in climate, but perhaps an insignificant one as compared to the effects of solar flares etc. Peterson is absolutely correct in comparing the absolutist conclusions the communists made in order to make a better society. At what cost? The other gentleman needs to change his "name" from Destiny to Density.
@davidhardy3074
@davidhardy3074 10 дней назад
Lol the last sentence of your comment really made me giggle.
@bratwurstmitbiryani
@bratwurstmitbiryani 2 дня назад
You think your fellow scientist who work in climate research just pulled the conclusions about CO2 out of their ass looking at select few studies and missed the complete picture? Do you think they must take lectures from your on how the studies need to be repeatable and verifiable? Please help us with your experience 😂.
@lg4360
@lg4360 День назад
@@bratwurstmitbiryani You clearly are NOT a scientist by profession. The climate "debate" has been championed by politics just as the Covid response was. Unfortunately, most post-docs and university professors need grants in order to fund their studies. The winds of politics were clearly blowing one way, no decent. There were many scientists on the IPCC who had sound disagreement with the IPCC's statement yet were ignored. If you want a grant these days, lets say on the affect of stress on IL-2 in the immune response of children in a one parent household you MUST include the words "climate change", ie. the affect of stressAND climate change Il-2 in the immune response of children in a one parent household. Use the key words and you get funded! Finally and MOST importantly the conclusion that the 1995 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which is widely believed to “prove” that climate change induced by humans has occurred. The original draft document did not say this. What happened was that the policymakers’ summary (which became the “take home message” for politicians) altered the conclusions of the scientists. This led Dr Frederick Seitz, former head of the United States National Academy of Sciences, to write, “In more than sixty years as a member of the American scientific community ... I have never witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC report.” Policymaking should be guided by proved fact, not speculation. Most members of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change believe that current climate models do not accurately portray the atmosphere-ocean system. Measurements made by means of satellites show no global warming but a cooling of 0.13°C between 1979 and 1994. Furthermore, since the theory of global warming assumes maximum warming at the poles, why have average temperatures in the Arctic dropped by 0.88°C over the past 50 years?
@philippevachon1891
@philippevachon1891 29 дней назад
Thank you Jordan... you explain perfectly what's going on.
@jamescooke9785
@jamescooke9785 Месяц назад
I remember being young and joking with friends that one day if they could they would charge us for the air we breath. Well here we are, what a joke this world has become.
@More_Dread
@More_Dread Месяц назад
except they are going to charge us for the air we exhale!
@ty194
@ty194 Месяц назад
​@@More_DreadThat's part of breathing.
@barryaaa5909
@barryaaa5909 Месяц назад
@@ty194 probably extension of a family joke, hold our breath so you don't cause climate change. The typical mockery to the psychopaths forcing this down our throat.
@Bonzeaux_Bleuxgrene
@Bonzeaux_Bleuxgrene Месяц назад
What?? You are grossly exaggerating reality to fit your conspiratorial narrative. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@More_Dread
@More_Dread Месяц назад
@@Bonzeaux_Bleuxgrene its called: a joke!
@thelastbrobo7826
@thelastbrobo7826 Месяц назад
They are increasing the carbon tax here in Canada by 20% on April 1st. Thats not a joke.
@yonaoisme
@yonaoisme Месяц назад
cry about it
@rayjones201
@rayjones201 Месяц назад
@@yonaoismewhat will that accomplish?
@zororat
@zororat Месяц назад
Oh how exciting, that's exactly when we get our new hate crime bill here in Scotland, also not a joke 😑
@-8h-
@-8h- Месяц назад
​@@zororat heeey, twinsies! we also just got another one here in canada.
@-8h-
@-8h- Месяц назад
HEY!... it's actually 23%. And on the same day, the 338 MPs are getting a 4% pay raise. $8000-$12,000 a year for their $200,000 annual paycheques, and a hefty $16,000 increase for the prime minister.
@rizz917
@rizz917 Месяц назад
Well done, Dr. Peterson. I have never subscribed to the climate activist positions. You can find evidence of the earth cooling and warming in ice cores… I enjoyed this very much. Thank you.
@paulg6274
@paulg6274 26 дней назад
Yes, over hundreds of thousands of years, not over 100 years! The effects of C02 on a system are verifyable through simple experiments
@erwinheisenberg8821
@erwinheisenberg8821 26 дней назад
The climate scientists warning about climate change are the same that discovered the past warming and cooling. The fact that climate has changed in the past doesn't change the fact that we have changed the climate with our emission. People who has never smoked a cigarette can get lung cancer, that doesn't prove cigarettes are safe.
@1Mutton1
@1Mutton1 25 дней назад
The sudden increase in temperature is also massively.impactes by the measurement. There are very few monitoring atations not effected by urban development.
@Stanley_Baby
@Stanley_Baby 7 дней назад
Exactly and even then it’s a very small amount. The funniest thing is our climate has been relatively stable over the last century. It would be mega funny if we ran into another mini ice age
@davidcarron2328
@davidcarron2328 Месяц назад
I love the RU-vid climate change link under the video. F RU-vid!!!!
@Chris-ro7mn
@Chris-ro7mn Месяц назад
I merely see a definition of The expression Climate change. Which is good because many people get confused about what separates environmental issues and Climate issues for example.
@thecolourorange9499
@thecolourorange9499 Месяц назад
It’s just a link to Wikipedia chill out
@bobmyself8819
@bobmyself8819 Месяц назад
You mean F the CIA
@bobmyself8819
@bobmyself8819 Месяц назад
​@@Chris-ro7mnoh so mind control through propaganda
@Chris-ro7mn
@Chris-ro7mn Месяц назад
@@bobmyself8819 there is plenty of that but this aint it.
@wilfredruffian5002
@wilfredruffian5002 Месяц назад
Density.
@kipuchino
@kipuchino Месяц назад
Perfect.
@lampy4485
@lampy4485 Месяц назад
😂😂 love this
@jackworthington5205
@jackworthington5205 Месяц назад
He is at least sitting down. That is big
@lawanimeshorts
@lawanimeshorts Месяц назад
Why are you putting down the man? Atleast he's brave enough and respected enough to have a proper debate with Jordan, whom even pointed out he had very high verbal comprehension. Be more respectful.
@SevereFamine
@SevereFamine Месяц назад
Facts haha
@daveking9393
@daveking9393 Месяц назад
That was awesome. I really hope we get to see more of this from others...
@tassie7325
@tassie7325 Месяц назад
Destiny clearly believes that talking faster and louder makes him right. But here is a simple question for him. If the increase of CO2 is driving up temperatures, why is it that the increases of CO2 always follow increases in temperature, not the other way around?
@jezza669
@jezza669 12 дней назад
Source?
@tassie7325
@tassie7325 12 дней назад
@@jezza669 Science
@bratwurstmitbiryani
@bratwurstmitbiryani 2 дня назад
​@@tassie7325lol the way you said science. I had no doubt that JP fans would be like this.
@BrainInjuredTortellinni
@BrainInjuredTortellinni Месяц назад
There’s people that know what they know and always know there’s a chance they may be wrong. Then there’s people that believe they know and they can’t possibly be wrong.
@MikeAIright
@MikeAIright Месяц назад
so you deny nasa's climate data?
@kevinbeardsworth3756
@kevinbeardsworth3756 Месяц назад
@@MikeAIrightwell yeah. When nasa stop launching rockets and politicians and elites all over the world stop travelling in private jets and lower there carbon emissions then il start to believe
@boguslav9502
@boguslav9502 Месяц назад
​@@MikeAIright what is the predictive power of this data?
@supersmegma9801
@supersmegma9801 Месяц назад
@MikeAIright Appeal to authority. Wtf are you listening to nasa about climate? They build rockets, they are not the authority on climate..
@angmaugeri
@angmaugeri Месяц назад
@@MikeAIright you trust the nazis?
@ritaklassen5203
@ritaklassen5203 Месяц назад
Please keep setting the Climate hysteria crazies straight, Dr. Peterson!!
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
dr "we have no idea where the carbon is from" peterson is not doing that, unfortunately. we know precisely where the carbon is from.
@demun6065
@demun6065 Месяц назад
@@ShakeITyEAwho says carbon is the sole issue?
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
@@demun6065 not me, so what are you on about? carbon dioxide is not the sole issue, but it is the MOST PROMINENT greenhouse gas and the MAIN contributor to warming due to greenhouse effect.
@sebastiansaxon
@sebastiansaxon Месяц назад
​@@ShakeITyEA the earth is now 20% greener than in the 70s. The us attacked the nord stream pipeline releasing the most amount of methane ever recorded. All of it is lies.
@masaheimoi
@masaheimoi Месяц назад
Man argues that secret elites want to kill poor because like Hitler they have lost the plot. JP is deeply unserious man. Like lets compare: Hitler wanted to make Germany most powerfull contry in the world, but ended with Germany in ruins because his army was not strong enough. ????? wanted to ??????, but is about to fail because ??????, and now poor are dying. Truly masterfull analyss of the world.
@MrRaposaum
@MrRaposaum Месяц назад
Here's a hot take, and you can look for this information: There is no proof of CAUSATION between the density of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and the fluctuation of the average of temperature in the Earth's surface that we're getting every year. The fluctuation is caused by solar activity (how hot the sun is burning at the moment) and we have no way of controlling that. Every about 80 years, the sun reach peak activity, which is what we're experiencing right now. In the middle of that cycle, we go through the lowest point in the fluctuation (the average temperatures were very low 40 years ago, on the 80's). We've been through that heat peak 80 years ago (on mid 40's), then again 160 years ago, 240, and so on. There is no historical evidence of this being a disastrous event for mankind, ever. All the climate alarmism ever does, and all it ever is, is a way for politicians to convince people to push their "new world" economic agenda. They themselves don't believe in any of the climate alarmism that they promote.
@gogeta667
@gogeta667 29 дней назад
People seem to forget that carbon dioxide is the lifeblood of plants. The more carbon dioxide, the more plants, the more oxygen, rinse and repeat. It makes up less than almost every other element in the atmosphere and water is more of a greenhouse gas than it is.
@MrRaposaum
@MrRaposaum 28 дней назад
@@gogeta667 You're 100% correct. Biologists were calling carbon-dioxide the "chemical compound of life" because of its role on the planet's eco-system. Before all of these nonsense began, anyway.
@eutiger4789
@eutiger4789 28 дней назад
your interpretation is incorrect
@eutiger4789
@eutiger4789 27 дней назад
@@gogeta667 You are just making a excuse for your conspiracy theory, yes carbion dioxide is good but not when it changes more than though tends of thousands of years within a few decades, this will kill a lot of live and human infrastrucutre that cant adjust
@mattvanderford4920
@mattvanderford4920 27 дней назад
So to make the same argument Peterson did about climate we don’t really know what the sun did 80 or 160 years ago so even if you are correct I have no reason to believe you are or are not the same metrics apply. Just like goebers looking into telescopes at tiny dots try to tell you the temperature of systems suns it don’t care what the math says the variables are to numerous to count.
@andreikoenig5718
@andreikoenig5718 Месяц назад
It is like watching my three year old debate me why he should be having ice cream for dinner
@Dexamus1
@Dexamus1 Месяц назад
And "Destiny" doesn't even care about what Dr. Peterson is saying..... He's not even paying any real attention!
@campland2880
@campland2880 Месяц назад
He's just a regurgitating tool of Leftist and MSM talking points. Just a dopey "replay" device.
@Wate
@Wate Месяц назад
Why do you believe that? Was there any argument where he was giving time to respond but didn't?
@Dexamus1
@Dexamus1 Месяц назад
@@Wate watch his face and body language. He seems annoyed that Dr. Peterson is providing logical reasons to question his perspective.
@darthnocturnis3941
@darthnocturnis3941 Месяц назад
@@Wate Just count the number of interruptions.
@ulyx9804
@ulyx9804 Месяц назад
@@Wate Destiny's key contention about JBP's criticism of climate model validity was based on time-span, when he brought up the cancer argument, COMPLETELY missing the entire point that JBP was making that the lack of overview in time scale, since the life and heat cycles of a planet vastly outmeasures a person's. Destiny's analogy was EXACTLY demonstrating a lack of understanding about JBP's comparisons over the vast time of the planet's life.
@MicMan123456789
@MicMan123456789 Месяц назад
This is a master class in not letting someone wriggle out of an incorrect position. Here tries to pivot everyone he talks and Jordan won’t let him out
@william14able
@william14able Месяц назад
This is a master class on Gell-Mann
@latortugapicante719
@latortugapicante719 Месяц назад
You think Jordan saying that we can’t prove the carbon dioxide is from the Industrial Revolution is somehow winning then I doubt your ability to follow
@emalek8290
@emalek8290 Месяц назад
Jordan did a terrible job, just interrupting and failing to grasp the points being made. Happens when you get too emotional to use reason 😂
@Realbobo
@Realbobo Месяц назад
@@emalek8290 Hey, commie. gotta try harder to not get detected.
@jenniek8391
@jenniek8391 29 дней назад
Peterson can't even define what climate change is without producing a word salad.
@MarekzAnglii
@MarekzAnglii Месяц назад
A few weeks ago, front page news articles in the UK, reported about the poor skiing conditions in the Alps, due to a lack of adequate snow cover - as a result of man-made climate change of course. But recently after huge snowfalls and fantastic skiing conditions....................... CRICKETS!
@HouseParty13
@HouseParty13 29 дней назад
That's my favorite when it's unseasonably warm for a few weeks you hear people make those comments. I'm just thinking to my self I've heard that same comment every other year for my whole life. Maybe the seasons are always just different 🤔which is the absolute truth.
@emalek8290
@emalek8290 29 дней назад
Why are arctic ice cover and glaciers in decline?
@HouseParty13
@HouseParty13 28 дней назад
​@@emalek8290 the decline started 10,000-13,000 years ago. Must have been the oil industry
@emalek8290
@emalek8290 28 дней назад
@@HouseParty13 Go look at the precipitous decline of arctic ice that has co-occured with carbon dioxide concentrations. It's not that hard to understand 🤣
@KroryykDB
@KroryykDB 27 дней назад
Because it's all a scam. This climate hysteria is just that, hysteria.
@paulwalters5943
@paulwalters5943 Месяц назад
Okay you got me. I’ll listen to it. I’ve seen so many ads for this debate - and I have never heard of Destiny before lol. So I had to research him a little and I’m absolutely shocked he would be willing to go toe to toe with Peterson on anything.
@judithtaylor4799
@judithtaylor4799 Месяц назад
We are at the top of the 90-year Gleissberg solar cycle! We are having the same hot, dry weather as they had during the last two peaks in 1847 and 1936.
@BrewBlaster
@BrewBlaster Месяц назад
Thank you; someone who acknowledges the elephant in the room.
@R4G34D0N
@R4G34D0N Месяц назад
So 2025 gonna be a hot year then 🤔
@flappyturtlesnatch
@flappyturtlesnatch Месяц назад
Exactly! I wish I could thumbs up twice
@maximusf3063
@maximusf3063 Месяц назад
Whatever happened to that ice bridge connecting Russia & Alaska? I guess the ancient inuits were driving too many sports cars and flying too many planes in 10 000 BCE.
@John...44...
@John...44... Месяц назад
Hhmmm, can you post some evidence for this as everywhere i look it does not show this at all?
@alananderson5202
@alananderson5202 Месяц назад
One notepad has genius level thought…the other has doodles on it.
@tiktokcrazy6965
@tiktokcrazy6965 Месяц назад
God damn good fucking joke brother
@tiktokcrazy6965
@tiktokcrazy6965 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@Philibuster92
@Philibuster92 Месяц назад
Yeah. Destiny’s notepad has the genius level thoughts on it and Peterson’s has the doodles on it. The reason is that Peterson is smart enough to remember everything destiny says without needing to take notes. And destiny needs to take notes of what Peterson says because he’s not used to hearing arguments that are way better than the greatest thought he’s ever had.
@yodasmomisondrugs7959
@yodasmomisondrugs7959 Месяц назад
@@Philibuster92 I was gonna put something like that to, but never mind.
@rolandheinze7182
@rolandheinze7182 Месяц назад
​@@Philibuster92😂😂😂😂
@HookersAndCoke
@HookersAndCoke Месяц назад
I love how we’re so concerned about climate change when we don’t even have a very long recorded history of temperatures to get a good grasp on much of it. We can hardly predict the weather day to day, we can get close but not quite. The earth goes through cycles and we’re still learning about it more and more. It’s hard to predict the future.
@Wow91163
@Wow91163 29 дней назад
We know loads about the earths historic climate cycles and we know that what is happening now is outside what is normal. It’s not just about measuring temperature, we can see an increase in extreme weather events and we also understand the impact of releasing so many pollutants into the atmosphere. We know what we would expect to happen, and it is happening.
@emalek8290
@emalek8290 29 дней назад
It's pretty basic casual reasoning: carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, we're releasing more carbon dioxide every year and we're recording higher temperatures every year. Doesn't take a genius 🤣
@fredsiebenmann7242
@fredsiebenmann7242 28 дней назад
Yes, what is happening is outside the normal. We are now at the LOWEST average temperature in the last 8,000 years. Yet, somehow, we as a species flourished. Go figure!
@matteodelloro364
@matteodelloro364 28 дней назад
The hearth goes trough cicles but it can’t account for the growth of temperature since Industrial Revolution, and especially after the last 60years massive exploit of carbon of technology and birth and, therefore, consumes. “Geological cycles” are a cheap explanation used by someone who don’t know geology or science data, since they’re well known by all climate scientists (shocking i imagine) but can’t nonetheless be held responsible for the massive increasing in the temperature we’re seeing.
@imnotafool_
@imnotafool_ 25 дней назад
​@@Wow91163 the fact is - that we have never had any machinery of this kind before , which obviously results/indicates higher co2 emissions but we can't directly correlate that to extreme weather as we don't have enough sample date on the actual earth.. considering that the earth is easily thousands of years old..
@michaeldehart3253
@michaeldehart3253 28 дней назад
It’s not the governments job to tax sin. You shouldn’t be punished by the state for spending your money unwisely.
@hoorayimhelping3978
@hoorayimhelping3978 Месяц назад
Jordan Peterson: "you can't model climate systems or economic systems to the degree these policies require." Destiny: "let's assume you can model climate systems and economic systems to the degree these policies require [so I can make the point I want to make]."
@timliu6870
@timliu6870 Месяц назад
Yeah, I was like, how about lets not assume that!😂😂
@william14able
@william14able Месяц назад
@@timliu6870 there is not some threshold at which a model is deemed accurate enough to make predictions off of. Just because you don't know or understand the model does not make it useful.
@rolandheinze7182
@rolandheinze7182 Месяц назад
I mean, I agree it's impossible to model, but still worth noting binary scenarios for discussion purposes. But only for discussion. That's how we ended up with TARP... IF WE DONT BAIL OUT THE BANKS THE COUNTRY WILL DIEEEEEE
@william14able
@william14able Месяц назад
@@rolandheinze7182 Business was on the same side in the climate change debate and TARP. this time you're siding with big business.
@rolandheinze7182
@rolandheinze7182 Месяц назад
@@william14able I agree. I'm saying that's a bullshit causal reason to make a decision like that, that if we don't it would be catastrophic without ever really knowing the counterfactual outcome, like destiny is claiming to
@marcryptic
@marcryptic Месяц назад
Few people can take on Jordan, but this guy is definitely not equipped.
@defconbrown8667
@defconbrown8667 Месяц назад
This guy would destroy you in a debate. He’s extremely smart and a good debater. He may be supporting arguments that are not correct, but don’t dismiss his integrity or intelligence. He’s not an ideologue. He will end up on the right side one day and we will be glad he is
@jebalitabb8228
@jebalitabb8228 Месяц назад
the old man screaming over vaccines doesn’t seem that equipped either, idk what happened to him I swear he was smart before that huge break
@jakeh2049
@jakeh2049 Месяц назад
@@jebalitabb8228exactly. I agree with his positions but man, all he did here was cut off the other guy every 2 seconds like wtf it’s not even a debate at that point. I have a really hard time with Peterson even though I agree with most of his views
@Elias2293
@Elias2293 Месяц назад
@@jakeh2049 because the guy speaks too fast and jumps from one point to the next before anyone is able to hold him responsable for what he just said.
@jebalitabb8228
@jebalitabb8228 Месяц назад
@@Elias2293 okay but he doesn’t hold him responsible for anything so what’s the point in cutting him off? Just let him ramble surely he will look like a fool right
@EricSmith9000
@EricSmith9000 Месяц назад
This whole discussion was very good. They pressed one another nicely.
@kidfunkyfri3308
@kidfunkyfri3308 Месяц назад
I was in a city in the desert super hot during the day like 105 but at night it was still in the high 80s turns out when you cover sand and dirt and forest with concrete and asphalt they retain a lot more heat...
@brian13105
@brian13105 Месяц назад
The Greatest Canadian EVER , J.B.P. How he " suffers fools " is beyond me .
@JSp4wN
@JSp4wN Месяц назад
Agreed.
@angelozachos8777
@angelozachos8777 Месяц назад
More views … More moolah 💰 JP is an unapologetic capitalist - his partnership with The Daily Wire speaks volumes on that 😂
@antiprogpragmatist859
@antiprogpragmatist859 Месяц назад
@@angelozachos8777.. you may dislike capitalism, but it’s better than any other economic model, Poindexter
@brian13105
@brian13105 Месяц назад
@@angelozachos8777Ya , so what .
@TR-uw2sp
@TR-uw2sp Месяц назад
​@@angelozachos8777 what should people be motivated by? Especially if he believes in what he is doing at the same time?
@drewmc2001
@drewmc2001 Месяц назад
Rationality vs. the Church of Climatology. Let's say that humanity is even partially responsible, the cost to "ameliorate" humanity's supposed involvement in the change is far greater than the cost to acclimate to the change.
@matthewdoran3448
@matthewdoran3448 Месяц назад
Source for this?
@chuckliquor3663
@chuckliquor3663 Месяц назад
​@@matthewdoran3448Burdern of proof dwells with the accuser.
@chrisdistant9040
@chrisdistant9040 Месяц назад
@@chuckliquor3663that’s how burden of proof works, true, smart.
@chrisdistant9040
@chrisdistant9040 Месяц назад
Yes, it will be much cheaper to relocate all our coastal cities and build large green houses for all of our farming, and to desalinate water instead of just getting it from rivers. Smart, genius.
@vladdracul2379
@vladdracul2379 Месяц назад
​@@chrisdistant9040 Name one city that is underwater in the world that 40 years ago said the ice caps were melting and ocean rising.
@metas1779
@metas1779 Месяц назад
Such a great conversation
@paulbrown7872
@paulbrown7872 Месяц назад
You don't have to go back 150,000 years. Temperatures were similar to today if not hotter in the 1930s. The alarmists always perform a slight of hand by starting their temperature charts in the 1950s/60s during the cool spell. Of course temperatures today look like a "spike" compared to that. If you zoom out and view the chart at scale, the spike doesn't look like much of a spike at all.
@JamesEhler
@JamesEhler Месяц назад
Destiny thinking, "What does "externalities" mean?"
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Месяц назад
Externalities might seem like a big word but a lot of people know what that means and I can assure you destiny definitely does….did you?
@bonnieberesford9800
@bonnieberesford9800 Месяц назад
Externalities are outside phenomena like CO2 that have an effect on a process, like climate. Other externalities that affect climate are the sun, the clouds, the ocean currents, El Nino/La Nina, even other planets and their graviational pulls can affect us. This is why a focus on CO2 is not just w false diversion, it is ignorant and profoundly unscientific.
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Месяц назад
@@bonnieberesford9800 says who? You know that everyone can see that you are just repeating Peterson verbatim as if it were your own opinion right?
@seanlee4672
@seanlee4672 Месяц назад
you clearly didn't listen to the full debate
@heythere9371
@heythere9371 Месяц назад
Climate change denial = Flat Earth, same IQ required to believe both
@mtfine
@mtfine Месяц назад
Why does anyone (including Destiny ) thinks Destiny has anything useful to say? He comes across as a smug narcissist.
@hedonismbot3274
@hedonismbot3274 Месяц назад
Always trying to win instead of searching for the truth..
@glennjohn3919
@glennjohn3919 Месяц назад
Because he can talk faster than 99% of people.
@Jack-zk6yt
@Jack-zk6yt 26 дней назад
​@glennjohn3919 same argument tactic as Ben shapiro. Very annoying.
@AreJay_
@AreJay_ 9 дней назад
because he is considered a moderate liberal compared to the liberal whack-jobs out there
@jefepesos2300
@jefepesos2300 28 дней назад
Thank you Mr. Peterson!
@rogernunn1
@rogernunn1 27 дней назад
It's good to see a voice of reason being applied to the subject
@ipredictariot6371
@ipredictariot6371 Месяц назад
All those notes Destiny took… you would think he’d be open to actually learning something.
@CHIM3RA.
@CHIM3RA. Месяц назад
idk if he writes notes or just draws to calm down, i think i saw him draw shapes during the lex and shapiro podcast
@ipredictariot6371
@ipredictariot6371 Месяц назад
@@CHIM3RA. maybe true but more a comment on his general disposition.. even arguing vehemently against left-wing liberal principles after purporting to be guided by compassion for the oppressed.
@CHIM3RA.
@CHIM3RA. Месяц назад
@ipredictariot6371 forgot to add that I agree 100% cause Destiny solely debates to "WIN" even though discussions like this aren't as simple a topic where one sides arguments claims victory. I'm with JP.
@ipredictariot6371
@ipredictariot6371 Месяц назад
@@CHIM3RA. I didn’t answer your comment very well. Very good observations… yes, I recall JP saying something towards the end about the pitfalls of getting caught up in falsehoods. I think a sort of qualified reference to the conceded acknowledgment that he’s “sharp”.
@ulyx9804
@ulyx9804 Месяц назад
Destiny bolsters his arguments after a debate, he does not generally change his mind or analyze his philosophy/principles for inconsistencies. When he debated Sean Fitzgerald, he didn't know the academic origins, development cycle, and current practice of Critical Race Theory, and still tried to debate about it with him, so he got his ass destroyed. In later videos, he specifically mentions these things when talking about Critical Race Theory, and tried to argue that they were at WORST a moral nullification because they could supply good things like perspective, etc. Completely invalidating that they are not critical thinking processes and focusing on their producing results that he agrees with.
@legendman97
@legendman97 Месяц назад
Hahahah Jordan completely exposed this dude.
@1stdebunker
@1stdebunker Месяц назад
You can tell who leads their life in the spirit of Truth. It is abundantly clear
@legendman97
@legendman97 Месяц назад
@@1stdebunker absolutely, you can tell who has their feet on the ground and who doesn’t. Cool icon pfp btw.
@1stdebunker
@1stdebunker Месяц назад
@@legendman97 Thank You, it's Saint Ambrose of Milan. I pray to never bring disgrace to his image with my speech. Hope you're well, much Love ❤️
@legendman97
@legendman97 Месяц назад
@@1stdebunker based St. Ambrose!
@eyekey346
@eyekey346 Месяц назад
At least Destiny had the nads to show up. Plenty would instead just write some passive aggressive article making hollow digs at Peterson instead.
@gabrieldeus1416
@gabrieldeus1416 13 дней назад
Speechless
@jeremyjensen6832
@jeremyjensen6832 26 дней назад
Usually not a fan of Peterson talking over his guests, but very thankful for it this time!!
@wtutt6810
@wtutt6810 Месяц назад
God bless you Dr. Peterson!
@sweatshirty
@sweatshirty Месяц назад
when youtube tells me “context” i know that it’s important that the truth is whatever the opposite of the youtubes context is
@KroryykDB
@KroryykDB 27 дней назад
And the "context" is totally false, humanity is NOT the reason why the climate has changed (if it even has, it's very debatable). The climate has been very cold and also very warm throughout human history way way before the evil burning of fossil fuels/gas/whatever. People don't seem to realize just how little CO2 we actually have in our atmosphere.
@gonx9906
@gonx9906 25 дней назад
Peterson is also a youtuber 😂😂
@paulsacramento5995
@paulsacramento5995 27 дней назад
No one 50 years ago could predict the economic impact of what is going on NOW, even in 2000. 40 years ago there were predictions of a new ice age.
@michaelnice93
@michaelnice93 28 дней назад
The CO2 concentrations are at a historic low and it’s really helpful to plants to have more, so actually it’s good to have more CO2. The argument over how hot or cold the temperature of the planet is sounds a lot like my parents arguing over the thermostat setting in their house. Though in this case people have been widely convinced we actually have control over the temperature of the planet. The idea we can control the climate is just as ludicrous as the idea that we know what the temperature should be.
@dehe82
@dehe82 Месяц назад
Why no mention of ice core samples?? Temps have been MUCH higher and MUCH lower multiple times over the past 100k+ years. Simple. We can all agree pollution is bad, and THAT should be the focus. NOT "climate change"
@WoWisdeadtome
@WoWisdeadtome Месяц назад
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant, it is plant food and in turn food for everything else too. It is naturally in the air and even now only in a trace amount of 400ppm or 0.04% It's worth noting that below 0.02% all plants die and all of us with them. The real issue is that now with carbon dioxide being labeled a pollutant then every single person on Earth is a small pollution factory. Well if your mandate is to reduce pollution the road to justifying, shall we say..."direct" population reduction become very much shorter than anyone wants to think.
@dehe82
@dehe82 Месяц назад
@@WoWisdeadtome I never said CO2 was a pollutant.
@maximusf3063
@maximusf3063 Месяц назад
The real danger is how much bisphenol A (BPA) there is. BPA has a direct relationship with lower male sperm count in all species, and complete infertility in some species (some sharks). There are no humans on planet earth that do not have a measurable quantity of BPA in their blood (even remote populations). We are more likely to go extinct from lack of kids then we are heat death.
@nyali2
@nyali2 Месяц назад
@@WoWisdeadtome You can go way further than that, We can calculate how much forcing it is causing. It is not relevant even if we go to 800ppm.
@mcdick1621
@mcdick1621 Месяц назад
publish a paper and let it be peer reviewed. apperantly you found the very obvious crux within the "climate narrative". if only more people had as clear an insight on the topic as you have damn we would already be living in a utopia.
@Gruff338
@Gruff338 Месяц назад
This note is a sickening reminder of how far we’ve fallen
@jorbran5529
@jorbran5529 25 дней назад
They are both so intelligent they loose each other on specificity.
@justin-fractionalhub5532
@justin-fractionalhub5532 Месяц назад
Hottest year where? In Australia it's been a very cool year compared to others. No bush fires this summer.
@PoetryInMotion52
@PoetryInMotion52 Месяц назад
This guy trying to debate Jordan is like a child attempting to debate the parent on the reasoning he/she believes having cupcakes for dinner is reasonable.
@heythere9371
@heythere9371 Месяц назад
Climate change is science. Jordan Peterson hates science (and poor people)
@kablammy7
@kablammy7 Месяц назад
thank you for that reminder - i knew there was something familiar with that knucklehead's behavior - i had 7 kids and now you know, how i know, that you know what you are talking about ( i just looked at your yewspewed tag -> ) and now i know that you were referring to my commentary style, when you gave yourself that tag name - i can give you an example ( this was a real life event - it is not fabrication ) : parent -> have you ever heard of blank blank or blah blah ? child -> i don't know - i just don' t know - i might have heard it while i was doing something else and i didn't know i heard it - so the answer is i don't know if i heard it before ... sounds like a case of GA DA FW syndrome - think of state name - judicial system official - first and last initials
@Xakanis
@Xakanis Месяц назад
Only morons think this, based on pre-existing prejudice and preconceived notions of someone.
@Starlight_Akira
@Starlight_Akira 29 дней назад
Why is having cupcakes for dinner not reasonable?
@iconocast
@iconocast 29 дней назад
destiny is to young. give him till he 40 then he will have some interesting takes.
@seektruth581
@seektruth581 Месяц назад
Canada produces around 1% of the world’s carbon emissions and we are being hit hard by the carbon tax. They don’t measure how much the carbon tax has made a difference. It’s crazy!
@rickdelve
@rickdelve Месяц назад
Canada produces, the last time I looked, 1.6% of global carbon emissions. However, with our Boreal forests and immense treed landscapes, we sequester carbon at 10 time the rate we produce it. So by that rate, the rest of the world should be paying us a carbon tax for all our country does....
@seektruth581
@seektruth581 Месяц назад
@@rickdelve also if our government did everything they could it would have no impact.
@nicolamustard7232
@nicolamustard7232 Месяц назад
But, yet Trud-o is increasing the carbon tax by 23% starting April 1 across Canada 🇨🇦. Yah, now! When Canadians are all facing increasing difficulties affording basic food and housing. Over 2,000,000 Canadians are using food banks every month now (our population is less than 40,000,000) and we are facing a major housing crisis. And Trud-o is increasing the tax on food, heating, and fuel... now! All under the guise of saving the planet. He's mind-blowingly stupid, inept and he's destroying Canada 😢
@zoravursingh5617
@zoravursingh5617 Месяц назад
and we are 0.5% of the world's population.
@seektruth581
@seektruth581 Месяц назад
@@zoravursingh5617we are being screwed by our leaders. We have so much resources but we are paying up the ass.
@mohnjarx7801
@mohnjarx7801 19 дней назад
They're taking these temperatures on tarmacs and on tops of buildings where it's hotter than it was when they took them on a grass field decades ago
@aj20100608
@aj20100608 27 дней назад
Destiny didn’t understand anything Jordan said.
@craighoward7716
@craighoward7716 Месяц назад
One of the problems with his statement about record high temps the last 5 years is they are cherry picking the high temps, and ignoring the low temps! You must have a disinterested third party examining the highs and lows and not cherry picking to reinforce a narrative that they want to manipulate for their political power!
@loringjohnson7797
@loringjohnson7797 Месяц назад
Funny that the temperatures last summer were "record highs" and yet I used my air conditioner less than I had in the last 15 years.
@russtang24
@russtang24 Месяц назад
The other thing they do is conflate record high temps with the hot getting hotter rather than the cold getting milder as is really the case. That way they can get away with saying things like “hottest” January on record when it’s nothing of the sort
@JMBeaushriimp
@JMBeaushriimp Месяц назад
There is no such thing as an "average global temperature"...
@dfyt9179
@dfyt9179 Месяц назад
@craighoward7716 I’m genuinely asking because I don’t know - how/in what way are they cherry picking high temps?
@campland2880
@campland2880 Месяц назад
@@loringjohnson7797 Last year was one of our coolest on record, and the most moisture on record! Destertification use to be their scare tactic. f'in rubbish.
@pb08203087
@pb08203087 Месяц назад
10:51 He admits (confidently) that he starts the temperature-mesuring time frame with the beginning of industrial age... to prove that industrial age activities caused it. That means, "we don't want any control group data whatsoever." Guess he never heard of "correlation is not causation." The possibility that this 100-year industrial age is just part of the long-term fluctuation from ice age to warm age never comes to his mind.
@campland2880
@campland2880 Месяц назад
So hilariously true.
@wangusbeef86
@wangusbeef86 Месяц назад
Simply because he doesn't know about it, because he never bothered to learn anything beyond what the climate activists told him to believe, Destiny certainly cited their points like a well-trained parrot.
@theartfuldodger8609
@theartfuldodger8609 Месяц назад
Can you disprove the greenhouse effect on Earth's atmosphere that industrialization had though?
@jeffreyjdesir
@jeffreyjdesir Месяц назад
@@theartfuldodger8609that’s not his burden. It’s now the climate change chasers who are burdened with proving their causative framework. His point is the seemingly common sense choice as the industrial age as a lower bound is naive and has a low confidence.
@campland2880
@campland2880 Месяц назад
@@theartfuldodger8609 . . .that's a fallacy, as you can't prove any of the effects.
@jaie2535
@jaie2535 Месяц назад
Is there a version of this in Layman's english? This feels like watching Dawson's Creek when I was 11 years old
@timb350
@timb350 19 дней назад
Every one of the last ten months has set a temperature record. Almost every year for the past ten years has set a temperature record. It is becoming just plain absurd to pretend this is just a coincidence!
@CarliMichelle
@CarliMichelle Месяц назад
This part was so good, was so satisfying to see somebody finally pin Destiny down where he usually manages to wiggle free
@Baker68
@Baker68 Месяц назад
Exactly, he’s so annoying
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
destiny had immensely poor arguments and facts to present to this debate, but that does not mean Peterson is right about climate change (he is not)
@semperick
@semperick Месяц назад
@@ShakeITyEA tell us why instead of just saying he's wrong buddy. He made some damn good points and Destiny replied with a bunch of logical fallacies lol
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
@@semperick really, destiny did a poor job and I dont care about this debate. but as far as climate change goes, Peterson simply ignores a large swathe of evidence. both co2 in the atmosphere and temperatures have been linked and can be traced back millions of years. temperatures reach record highs regularly for the past few years, but prior to industrialization, all temperature records hint that we were in a cooling period. there is also a conflict of interest with an organisation he himself created - its sponsored by fossil fuel investors and saudis. LMAO. if you want to know anything, ask a specific question.
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
@@semperick to add, Peterson also refused to aknowledge the "hockey stick", because it is getting "sued" or whatever. purely nonsensical take, several different organisations have done nearly identical measurements that look like a hockey stick when graphed.
@brucemctavish408
@brucemctavish408 Месяц назад
Good grief! The planet is 4.5 billion years old........we are a mere speck in time.
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
good grief, why is that relevant whatsoever? the planet also never had a species that grew to dominate and completely reshape the planet within 100 years of industrialization.
@revorocks123
@revorocks123 Месяц назад
We are the only intelligent life we know to exist that is capable of space travel. Whilst the human race may be insignificant in terms of cosmological timescales, we are still something to be cherished. The universe can exist for billions and billions of years but if there is nothing there to explore and appreciate it then that is a great shame.
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
@@revorocks123 what is ur point? lol. space travel is completely irrelevant if earth cant solve its political and otherwise problems. it should be absolutely lowest on our agenda.
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
@@revorocks123 what is ur point? we arent even capable of fixing our own world, let alone find and inhabit another one. space travel should be the absolute lowest priority for a world that is in flames.
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 26 дней назад
Indeed. And many of us hope our children will make that tiny speck into a dot, while others want their hedonistic lifestyles to continue, damned the future generations.
@stevebegg3843
@stevebegg3843 Месяц назад
Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns. Human activities have not been 100% proven as the main driver of climate change, primarily due to the burning of fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas.
@nolaspeaker5656
@nolaspeaker5656 Месяц назад
The reason why people think that the last year was the hottest on record, is because the figures are being fudged.
@jenniek8391
@jenniek8391 29 дней назад
Suuuuuuuure
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Месяц назад
CO2 has reached its "saturation point", meaning that any more of it cannot notably affect temperature. See Princeton Prof William Happer on this
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA Месяц назад
cool, except it is in direct contradiction with the the continous warming and heat records we see to this day, and the unexpected developments all aroudn the world such as unexpected record glacier melting.
@chrisdistant9040
@chrisdistant9040 Месяц назад
Yes, just like after putting on a sweater, putting on more sweaters isn’t going to make you any warmer. 🤡
@chrisdistant9040
@chrisdistant9040 Месяц назад
We measure CO2 in parts per million. But as you intelligently point out, anyone knows that numbers don’t get much higher than 0.0004
@william14able
@william14able Месяц назад
No, it hasn't
@andysorensen3474
@andysorensen3474 Месяц назад
"Hottest years on record" are a modelling and measurement error. Urban expansion into static measurement locations are showing the temperature increase related to the geographic growth and expansion of cities over the past century.
@campland2880
@campland2880 Месяц назад
100%
@christophertaylor9100
@christophertaylor9100 Месяц назад
Its not an error. They are doing it on purpose. The weather stations are almost all poorly placed, and they adjust the well placed ones to be more like the poorly placed ones. Its deliberate. They have been caught repeatedly doctoring old data to make it fit their models better.
@chrisdistant9040
@chrisdistant9040 Месяц назад
Brilliant! You should get into climate science and show them how to utterly embarrass yourself because you have no clue what you are talking about and they are experts.
@andysorensen3474
@andysorensen3474 Месяц назад
pfft, good one@@chrisdistant9040
@andysorensen3474
@andysorensen3474 Месяц назад
How about speaking to the point instead of relying on ad hominem attacks. Can you provide evidence that the statistical base has been sufficiently adjusted to account for urban growth and the the concomitant growth of heat islands that encompass the measurement points? @@chrisdistant9040
@chrisdubs121
@chrisdubs121 Месяц назад
Yea, living in canada, you can just see the squeeze happening slowly. People are becoming homeless, and the solution on the government end is 350 sq ft apartments for $1600. Carbon tax is hard on the poor. Why can't the question be where we fund replacement technologies? We have a tent encampment 3 minutes walk down the road that wasn't there 10 years ago. Trudeau said he loves camping. we didn't think he meant through the winter. Just saw a 30 year old lady sitting on the curb drinking a beer. Normal people is who we're talking about. Push the trailer parks and block housing out to build suburbia paradise!
@guttydozen
@guttydozen Месяц назад
When CO2 goes up, vegetation growth increases
@zackr.7628
@zackr.7628 Месяц назад
And so does the average temperature. And forest fires. And droughts.
@guttydozen
@guttydozen Месяц назад
@@zackr.7628 How? Explain.
@gbear34
@gbear34 Месяц назад
@@zackr.7628 Forest fires are largely increasing in frequency due to misguided forest conservation efforts of the last 70 years.
@m0rt_s3c24
@m0rt_s3c24 Месяц назад
​@@guttydozen Well ig we all studied Algebric mean in high school right, average temperature rise is similar a 1 or 2 degree rise in global average temperature means anomalies in local bio spheres, so some places might be facing crazy hot temperature and some on the other hands might be seeing sudden drop in temperature. Now u might ask why does it even matter, well for that understand if climate changes so rapidly all the existence process around food agriculture and bio diversity would undergo rapid changes that civilisation won't be about to adapt or evolve, hence might undergo complete extinction. Climate change is a common phenomenon for planets to undergo but with this much catalyst it would be hard to adapt accordingly. We can talk about nuances of it but ig Yt comments is not the place lol. Btw I don't understand why Peterson refuses to accept the major changes start happening after the industrialation like that's is so obvious plus backed up
@commandbrawler9348
@commandbrawler9348 Месяц назад
@@gbear34 not true, forest fires dont happen spontainously in most cases. fire needs fuel, oxygen and a spark to ignite. so most forest fires get started by pyromaniacs (humans)
@Michaelno
@Michaelno Месяц назад
It's clear to me after watching this interview, that Destiny has his mind set on a lot of this and he will not stray from what he's told by the mainstream. Thinking for himself is what he apparently does, so I'm quite confused.
@chrisdrakes2332
@chrisdrakes2332 Месяц назад
Depends what you mean by the mainstream. The current "mainstream" is western governments backed by the best universities in the world. Do you honestly think JP or anyone else is more intelligent than all of those educational and government systems? These guys do it day in, day out. Unlike JP who has an interest and 7 different business ventures ongoing as well as tour. Im inclined to trust 99% of western universities and the consensus of western governments over Jordan and yourself. Jordans talking points and arguments pick holes, which are accurate and need to be considered. But right now this is the best we have. And we have to do something otherwise as a race we're going to experience the mass starvation of billions of people.
@Michaelno
@Michaelno Месяц назад
@@chrisdrakes2332 do i think he's more intelligent? no. I think he brings up really obvious points that are completely overlooked by a person who was sold a narrative and will not sway from it. A strong narrative that seems to be defended, even though it makes no sense.
@chrisdrakes2332
@chrisdrakes2332 Месяц назад
@@Michaelno You're basically saying that the mainstreams narrative makes no sense. So you do disagree with western governments and universities consensus? Brave.
@Michaelno
@Michaelno Месяц назад
@@chrisdrakes2332 are you being sarcastic? i cannot tell. but i'll say this. i dont care about being brave. only pointing out the obvious. if you want to buy what this man is selling, that's fine. I disagree, i also think he's a hypocrite, and his opinion is pretty garbage.
@erictheguapo
@erictheguapo Месяц назад
​@@chrisdrakes2332First off, appealing to authority is a terrible argument because authorities disagree and have infighting all the time. We wittnessed this not long ago with the pandemic. They literally silenced and shut down experts who stated things that were not part of the mainstream consensus...and then changed their position not to long after. JP has made more coherent arguments than any mainstream climate scientist or climate activist has ever said. That is why I believe him over others in this subject.
@DEADLY6Z
@DEADLY6Z 28 дней назад
What would we do without having the government and RU-vid warn us to think! LOL
@IZRRL
@IZRRL 28 дней назад
This has been the coldest winter in the past 15 years or more here in Arizona.
@ralphmartinez8616
@ralphmartinez8616 Месяц назад
Destiny?! His name is destiny??!! Lol
@daniellundqvist2926
@daniellundqvist2926 Месяц назад
You don't like his stripper name? 🤣
@Baker68
@Baker68 Месяц назад
It’s a horrible name but he is an absolute a hole
@lain5858
@lain5858 Месяц назад
Its a girl name
@shootist279
@shootist279 Месяц назад
@@lain5858it’s a dumb name.
@j.lachica8555
@j.lachica8555 Месяц назад
What are his pronouns?😂😂 😂
@gospel120
@gospel120 Месяц назад
According to Noah, a seven day weather forecast is inaccurate 20% of the time. A 10 day forecast is an inaccurate 50% of the time. How many times have you personally experienced an inaccurate weather report the next day? How can they claim to predict whether 100 years from now and people actually believe that?
@evbbjones7
@evbbjones7 Месяц назад
Averaged out, your day to day weather forecast is slightly better than flipping a coin. Besides, it's been declared by the 'experts' that meteorologists aren't 'experts'. Only theoretical physicists are experts on weather and climactic trends!
@gospel120
@gospel120 Месяц назад
⁠ climatologist are no better at predicting future models. They said that the glaciers would be gone by the year 2000. But they are not. In 2013 Lake superior froze for the first time in decades. Just a few average days warmer doesn’t mean the world is coming to an end. I do not wish to debate nor to put anyone down. It’s just simple fact.
@ruan614
@ruan614 Месяц назад
So just to be clear; I'm not saying the climate measurements are accurate (I frankly don't know enough to make that claim), but you might find this interesting regardless. You can make predictions about a chaotic system by measuring the averages and seeing where the trend goes. So if you roll a dice and it has some kind of bias; you would notice that it lands on some numbers more than others over the course of a thousand rolls. You still can't predict the next roll; but you can predict the averages of the next thousand rolls.
@gospel120
@gospel120 Месяц назад
Excellent response. I totally agree with what you’re saying. To do those measurements there must be set parameters. And the accuracy of the outcome would depend on the set parameters. Weather is not like that. Weather is continually changing its parameters. One of the major shifts and weather throughout history has been caused by volcanic eruptions. Massive eruptions have actually plunged the temperatures into 18 months of winter like weather. This is happened twice in written history. Just a small release of volcanic ash and gases exceeded the amount of carbon that humans have produced in their entire existence. I totally concur with the fact that we do not have winters like we used to have when I was young. However, the changes that are proposed to be made to reduce carbon emissions are plunging people into poverty and food deprivation. I think certainly in the near future, we will find a fuel source that far exceeds oil in economic value and renewability. I think patience with vigorous research for new technology at this point, is the best option.
@dragons_red
@dragons_red Месяц назад
To be fair, as any climate "scientist" will tell you, climate is not the same as weather. If you compare it to the stock market, weather is like the daily reports where things go up and down, much more volatile in that scope, where climate would be the 10, 20, 30 year overall trend of the market, so it's not useful to equate the 2. Having said that, they are still wrong about their climate predictions because, unlike the markets where you are either going up or down, climate has many variables that are trending and they all influence each other. It's a FAR more complex problem.
@scabu3
@scabu3 Месяц назад
Thank you for having an important debate, these are rare.
@scottxu
@scottxu Месяц назад
We in Australia just had the coldest summer in many years. 😆
@gloop32
@gloop32 27 дней назад
Scott they changed the definition from global warming to climate change because warmth isn’t exactly an indicator of this issue. Of course overall our planet is warming but the carbon release is causing more extreme instances of weather. So our hots are hotter, our colds are colder, our weather is more violent. You’ve actually pointed out an indicator of climate change
@ChristianMartinez-mz6nv
@ChristianMartinez-mz6nv Месяц назад
Get em Doc 😆 they both say their sides , Intensity is a necessity in conversation and it’s special to see even through a third perspective
@yonaoisme
@yonaoisme Месяц назад
well he's not a doctor
@NISasquatch
@NISasquatch Месяц назад
@@yonaoismehow stupid are you?
@TheShannaginz
@TheShannaginz Месяц назад
People still pay 27$ a pack for cigarettes, the tax does nothkng to stop addiction 😅😂
@william14able
@william14able Месяц назад
look around bozo
@TheShannaginz
@TheShannaginz Месяц назад
@@william14able am I supposed to be looking at you the bozo? Or what?
@BradJohannsen
@BradJohannsen Месяц назад
Cigarette use is dropping dramatically, what are you on? Lol
@TheShannaginz
@TheShannaginz Месяц назад
@@BradJohannsen does that mean that not a single person rver pays 27$ for smokes? What the fuck are you on?
@themidgetsman
@themidgetsman Месяц назад
@@TheShannaginz If cigarettes were 2 bucks a pack do you think more or less people would smoke? I think we can agree fewer people smoke the higher the price gets and less kids start smoking if it cost more. That does not mean every person will stop or never start but it does mean many will stop. Smoking used to be 32% of the population and it decreased to 11% in recent years. It is a mix of price and marketing changes.
@rickyogle7584
@rickyogle7584 19 дней назад
These are the types of brains that should be representing us
@sharonmanning6824
@sharonmanning6824 Месяц назад
You tell him, Jordan! 👏👏👏
@tempowars534
@tempowars534 Месяц назад
Why are people giving this dude a platform... a grown man who calls himself destiny and loves Biden 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@minnieheff
@minnieheff Месяц назад
It’s good to have a debate like this. Make me realize how leftist is full of nonsense snd merely based on their tyrannical ideology, fake compassion for the poor, and decieved by money and power. Science is not on their back!
@masterbaraman9372
@masterbaraman9372 Месяц назад
I find it weird, too. I guess getting enough traffic will get anyone a platform.
@PepsiFuture
@PepsiFuture Месяц назад
It’s mostly teenagers
@masterbaraman9372
@masterbaraman9372 Месяц назад
@@PepsiFuture That just makes it worse.
@darrenw6982
@darrenw6982 Месяц назад
JP won hands down. The other guy was all over the place with his 'argument'.
@MorganLewis-lz1ee
@MorganLewis-lz1ee Месяц назад
petersons entire argument is based on a misunderstanding of science
@darthnocturnis3941
@darthnocturnis3941 Месяц назад
@@MorganLewis-lz1eeI'm sorry, but this assertion is absurdity.
@MorganLewis-lz1ee
@MorganLewis-lz1ee Месяц назад
@@darthnocturnis3941 the assertion that a psychologist, who doesn't understand why we should assess climate impacts from the beginning of the industrial revolution and doesn't think carbon is worth measuring as an externality, shouldn't be listened to in regards to climate policy is absurdity?
@darthnocturnis3941
@darthnocturnis3941 Месяц назад
@@MorganLewis-lz1eeAssuming someone who doesn't hold a title in a particular field is incapable of understanding is not only absurdity, but an arrogant logical fallacy.
@ulyx9804
@ulyx9804 Месяц назад
@@MorganLewis-lz1ee Psychologists are TRAINED SCIENTISTS. What you learn in school is how to read academic papers, and the scientific methods of measurement and analysis. The use of science is in creating models of predictive capability. The better your model, the more you understand a study. Law of general relativity helps us predict the distances between ourselves and distant objects to such a high degree that we can map the patterns of solar eclipses and the precise path of the moon's shadow over a 5,000 year time-span, which corresponds EXACTLY with past historical events and writings that notated the phenomena. That's an accurate model. Not being able to predict the climate within ONE SINGLE YEAR, is a terrible model. We need stronger models of predictive capability before we can begin making the futures of every life on the planet dependent upon relying on them.
@robbhays8077
@robbhays8077 Месяц назад
Jordan's point about the location of temperature sensors is the only point that matters. We haven't really been measuring temperature over 100 years in a repeatable way. The uncertainty is larger than the change we are trying to detect.
@mb3799
@mb3799 Месяц назад
When thermometers compromised by the urban heat island effect are removed from the dataset, it becomes clear that temperature has increased only slightly since the start of the industrial revolution (with a multidecade cycle superimposed over the same time frame). Thus, claims of warming are derived from compromised temperature data. Sadly, data tampering has also been employed to align temperature increases with CO2 increases. $$ and politics have compromised scientific inquiry...a truly sad reality.
@dk-bw4gk
@dk-bw4gk 27 дней назад
The whole methodology is faulty. Why are we averaging the entire planet, or even large nations? I remember one "hottest year evah" where the planet cooled slightly but the Arctic warmed from -38F to -32F (still far below freezing) and this skewed the entire average up.
@jean-marclamothe8859
@jean-marclamothe8859 27 дней назад
Satellite demonstrate there’s nothing to worry about
@ShakeITyEA
@ShakeITyEA 26 дней назад
completely false. both the measurements and methodology are reliable enough for us to detect clear trends. this is what models and predictions are based on. you are both foolish and arrogant to assume scientists do not know what they are doing. those are people who dedicate their life to the topic.
@dk-bw4gk
@dk-bw4gk 26 дней назад
@@ShakeITyEA Models are not based on measurements. There are no scientists in climate change.
@mb3799
@mb3799 Месяц назад
"This isn't data, it's guess". Now that's some truth right there.
@jenniek8391
@jenniek8391 29 дней назад
It's data. Peterson is just a deranged, hysterical fool.
@frankzappa9853
@frankzappa9853 Месяц назад
I remember Obama running for office and he was very much on the side of worrying about climate change, now he has multiple mansions worth close to 50 million just for the houses right on the beach. Clearly he is not worried about sea levels raising and until that changes I'm not either.
@dirt_mcgirk
@dirt_mcgirk Месяц назад
​@gerardgauthier4876 and Obama still has those mansions.
@deeveevideos
@deeveevideos Месяц назад
​@@gerardgauthier4876 it's the sea rising or is the ground sinking?
@Michael-yx2un
@Michael-yx2un Месяц назад
Also a simple Google would show that the sea levels have been rising we've been measuring and its very linear. Let me ask you, what was our carbon output way back then? Why was the sea rising at about the same rate today when our carbon output is many orders of magnitude higher in recent years than it was back in the 1800s?
@frankzappa9853
@frankzappa9853 29 дней назад
@@Michael-yx2un and Obama still has his mansions doesn't he, oh and so does Biden, and Pelosi and on and on and on it goes.
@frankzappa9853
@frankzappa9853 29 дней назад
@@Michael-yx2un I do think its cute how your all "I know more then Obama does because of a simple google search" you know he had NASA working for him right? and the EPA as well and the lord only knows what else classified materials he had access too and after he left office he's so convinced that climate change is a nothing burger he literally lives right next to the ocean. But yeah believe google because they wouldn't lie to you now would they.
@shawnhowe7311
@shawnhowe7311 Месяц назад
Thanks Doc
@hippidieblooblah
@hippidieblooblah 16 дней назад
Been reading 1984. About 3/4 of the way through. I also read the communist manifesto a while back. I also read the most tragic thing i could ever read which is called the anti humans about the prison in pitesti romania under soviot rule in the 40's and 50's. The more I learn, the more frustrated I get with people like destiny about things these subjects. It is true. Ignorance is sometimes bliss. The less I know the less irritated and frustrated I am about these conversations.
@fat-shotgolf2937
@fat-shotgolf2937 29 дней назад
The majority of people go through life with their eyes closed. Jordan Peterson is an expert in helping people open their eyes and their minds
@AithenTheJokerr
@AithenTheJokerr Месяц назад
Wiped the floor with his smug ass. 😂
@william14able
@william14able Месяц назад
he didn't
@SammyFuqU
@SammyFuqU Месяц назад
@@william14ablehe did. Turn your brain on. He backed him into a corner at every turn. He tried to dodge questions by changing subjects or the focus and it didn’t work.
@william14able
@william14able Месяц назад
@@SammyFuqU referring back to your tautology isn't backing someone into a corner. lol. CO2 retains more heat. "How do you know? have you seen an atom? lol! I win." well. we can measure it. "But you can't measure it down to an acceptable level of precision!!!". Well. I mean, its close enough to make predictions on and model. "NO I don't agree that it's precise enough. We can't act on the models because they're based on imprecise measurements! See even you have to constantly update them when you get more measurements". Um. Okay? That is kind of how the scientific process works. I don't exactly know what you want. It's impossible to satisfy the constantly moving goal posts. "See! you're captured by the scientific cadre! You BELIEVE it to be true, which sounds an awful lot like a religiously held belief" Sounds good, but this isn't the sick burn you think it is.
@jenniek8391
@jenniek8391 29 дней назад
No, he hysterically interrupted instead of listening calmly and giving thoughtful responses. Peterson is an emotional manchild who is probably experiencing brain damage from his benzo addiction and subsequent coma.
@SammyFuqU
@SammyFuqU 29 дней назад
And yet while numbing his brain with benzos, he's still more educated, qualified, intelligent, and successful than you can be. Imagine thinking you know more than someone who not only has a doctorate in their field but also has done specific postdoc research into what you're talking about. LMAO @@jenniek8391
@CristinasofiaSpirit
@CristinasofiaSpirit Месяц назад
The climate problem is absolutely an economic issue.. the economy at local and world level is directly impacted by people living in poverty.. its effects on health.. education..inability to contribute to a better society while in survival mode…and of course who can afford to line the pockets of the high street retailers when we are all deciding wether to “heat or eat”…and how anyone could agree with an environmental model 100 years into the future at this point in world history is madness.
@31tmdavies
@31tmdavies 24 дня назад
It's like watching Chuck Norris beating up Soy Ninja
@Infinite_Ouroboros
@Infinite_Ouroboros Месяц назад
Wonder why shits getting hotter? It's because of overdevelopement causing a phenomenon called the urban hear island effect. The more an area becomes urbanised, the hotter it will get because more surface area has been introduced using materials that act as thermal masses, which absorb more heat and disperses them slowly aswell. Not to forget the fact that buildings also interfere with windflow. Carbon emission does have an impact on rising temperatures, BUT the bigger culprit is overdevelopement in a single area.
@ancalagonyt
@ancalagonyt Месяц назад
On predicting outcomes 100 years in the future, we have an interesting benchmark. In 1900, a magazine asked a number of scientists and other experts to make predictions for the far off year of 2000. And they did. Their predictions were fascinating. Most of them were laughably far off. Occasionally, they'd get something sort of right, but kinda not. One of the most memorable was the prediction that wars of the future would be fought by gigantic balloons in the sky, which belched massive clouds of smoke to hide their position. They also predicted that we would be growing massively large fruits and vegetables, and that we'd distribute them from supermarkets to homes through a complex system of pneumatic tubes. As Yogi Berra said, "Predictions are hard, especially about the future."
@analoguejerry9066
@analoguejerry9066 Месяц назад
A few weeks before the Wright brothers flew their plane the New York Times published an article saying that according to scientists it'll take humanity a million years to build flying machines.
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