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Hi Villagers, today we go over the best team compositions for Black Swan, and look into the CN calculations that support this information.
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00:00 Intro
00:49 Disclaimers
02:21 Team Building Basics
04:51 HOLY Backloaded
07:10 Damage Composition
09:51 Kafka Damage Rankings
11:14 DOT Damage Rankings
14:31 E6 S5 Max Teams
16:17 Kafka + Ruan Mei
18:10 Triple DOT
20:44 4 Star options
23:45 Summary
24:44 Outro
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@land5917
@land5917 4 месяца назад
this will GENUINELY change everything
@fr0st23
@fr0st23 4 месяца назад
Mtashed, is that you ?! 😮
@whoizrez
@whoizrez 4 месяца назад
this GENUINELY changes everything* 😅
@-Insert-Name_Here-
@-Insert-Name_Here- 4 месяца назад
Am I the only person who’s noticed that tingyun body pillow
@robthames5065
@robthames5065 4 месяца назад
GEN-U-INE-LY
@ulcifer
@ulcifer 4 месяца назад
@MrPokke - As a lecturer for many years I would like to offer some constructive feedback,: - Try to balance your posture on your feet and cut out general body "waving". You can do this by keeping your feet + knees in-line with your shoulders. - This will help participants focus better on your lecture and also aids you in using other forms of body language to emphasize your points. Great video and content bro XD peace out ~
@christopherhall619
@christopherhall619 4 месяца назад
This made me laugh way too harf
@h4kun-226
@h4kun-226 4 месяца назад
@ulcifer real lecturer give advice to wannabe lecturer, what a lecture
@crimsonraiderxv3422
@crimsonraiderxv3422 4 месяца назад
​@@christopherhall619 Harf
@christopherhall619
@christopherhall619 4 месяца назад
@@crimsonraiderxv3422 hard typo dum dum
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much 🗣️🔥
@qbdf
@qbdf 4 месяца назад
My imaginary kafka will genuinely be happy
@oyoyong
@oyoyong 4 месяца назад
it didn't come as lightning??
@leZerUchiha
@leZerUchiha 4 месяца назад
underrated lol this is funny@@oyoyong
@Manquedeau
@Manquedeau 4 месяца назад
@@oyoyongyou don’t know? Every player who fails Kafka banner gets her as imaginary attribute
@oyoyong
@oyoyong 4 месяца назад
@@Manquedeau got fckd
@davidsamudio3899
@davidsamudio3899 4 месяца назад
Honorable mention, E1 Black swan Can work as an amplifier because as long as the enemy has arcana, which is always, it will have -25% wind res and because of her skill, they will also have -20% defense, which is equivalent of having a second Ruan mei ult on three enemies and a character like blade gets more damage amp with e1 Black Swan than He will with Bronya, and Wind Heng gets 100% wind pen straight up
@theatter1837
@theatter1837 4 месяца назад
E1 BS with Bladie is really fun! You just cut through Wind weak enemies like butter and everything else like foam
@arrjayarrjay51
@arrjayarrjay51 4 месяца назад
I just run e0s1 kafka, e1 bs and e5 gui to maximize the -25% shred res since I don't have ruan mei. I'm pulling for 1 more gui for e6, that+1 firekiss is a really Good upgrade.
@francisdl5467
@francisdl5467 4 месяца назад
​@Alphanoob99 I think Sampo using Black Swan lightcone might be even better idk
@Hm-cd2wj
@Hm-cd2wj 4 месяца назад
If you ult would you have -25% res to lightning, wind, fire, physical? Cuz arcana in ult state counts as shock, burn, wind shear, bleed right?
@davidsamudio3899
@davidsamudio3899 4 месяца назад
@@Hm-cd2wj yes
@raphos.
@raphos. 4 месяца назад
i thank you GENUINELY for this video, with a simple exchange of relics between my kafka and black swan (i was running fast BS with a kafka 1 spd behind due to misinformation from yt commenters, idk why i listened) i stacked atk while maintaining 134 spd and allowing kafka to go faster, going from 8k to 20k on a single arcana stack while running asta. feels good
@gameralove6418
@gameralove6418 4 месяца назад
the same as me actually, my black swan is 164 and Kafka is 130+something i watched some channels and they just followed what they said.
@dan_chen
@dan_chen 4 месяца назад
​​@@gameralove6418fast BS only works when you have an equally fast Kafka. What most people got wrong about their speed tuning is that BS does not need to be faster than Kafka, but faster than the fastest enemies in the game which are about 155 spd. They just assumed that you only need to make everyone faster than Kafka to apply the dots and then forget about it and in the end either made their Kafka dogshit or killed BS' atk. In fact you can do just fine with a 102 spd BS with 4k atk and a 170 spd Kafka. Both Gacha Smack and Braxophone stressed this too: you either build her super fast, or no speed at all
@mooniixa
@mooniixa 4 месяца назад
HOLY BACKLOADING
@VoidRemoma
@VoidRemoma 4 месяца назад
Actually really informative video while also being entertaining due to your charisma! Using E2S1 Kafka and E0S1 Black Swan with normal Ruan Mei and HuoHuo, and it's so so much fun
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 4 месяца назад
That's literally the same team and eids/lc I use.
@chironthecuddley6144
@chironthecuddley6144 4 месяца назад
Same team I've been trying, but with E0S1 Kafka and E1S1 Black Swan. I do swap Huohuo for Gepard in SU though cause of invincible shields, though.
@bojjisama1897
@bojjisama1897 4 месяца назад
GENUINELY huge fan
@SackboyPwnz135
@SackboyPwnz135 4 месяца назад
Thank you professor! I love your classes and the bathroom breaks, truly salt of the earth :):):)):):):):)
@shin-ok8nk
@shin-ok8nk 4 месяца назад
As a newer player hearing poki calling me broke for not having kafka and ruan mei just hit deeply
@heron619
@heron619 4 месяца назад
I thought with the release of 2.0 content creators would focus on more beginner friendly guides since this new major patch is bound to have an influx of newer players into the game. But they seem to cannot wrap their minds about that fact yet. You could be an absolute whale and get E6S5 Black Swan and him and his chat would still call you a Mintpicker for not having Kafka, so welcome to the community and get used to these type of tongue and cheek teases.
@Majin_Fuu
@Majin_Fuu 4 месяца назад
It's just a cheeky joke, welcome aboard! It's just that older players who like DoT teams prob already have Kafka and Ruan Mei. I'm a 1.0 player myself and had been waiting for Ryan Mei and Black Swan ever since I heard dreams of their kits. All 3 are E0 and the only sig lc I have is Kafka's
@lassanadiallo8938
@lassanadiallo8938 4 месяца назад
@@Majin_Fuu Same her bro
@jamesvoris3921
@jamesvoris3921 4 месяца назад
Hopefully you’re just goofing off hopefully it doesn’t genuinely hit that deep for you lol I’m not laughing at you either just in general like, obviously it’s just good natured ribbing on his part. But who cares if someone calls you poor or broke. We all are, compared to some people. Always someone tougher always someone better looking always someone with more money that looks down on you even if you have money yourself. I read once I think there are like 36 million millionaires in the world. It’s not that special to even be a millionaire anymore to someone like Jeff Bezos a millionaire is hardly even any different than an average bum like oh you have a million….right, so does my 5 year old daughter in the piggy bank by her bed. Who cares 🤷‍♂️. There are 21 million active HSR players roughly, no more than 125k online at any given time though typically from the stats I’ve seen. It’s far far less than how many millionaires exist in the world. If a millionaire has a bad attitude and perspective they could look down on someone making 75-100k per year maybe 4/500k in bank not really a millionaire but has potential eventually to be one, but a legit millionaire could look down like ehh get you’re steak up you ain’t shit. We know that isn’t the case. That kind of stuff is always true and not true it’s glass half full glass half empty scenario. Depends on you and your perspective on how you view the world. Same with this. Hopefully you’re just playing around n not actually feeling like it cut deep lol if so I’d go buy some floaties you don’t wanna sink in the pavement on the way to the grocery store lol. Life a bitch and then we die. To quote the late great Nas. Gotta be able to joke n have fun poke fun fuck with each other n take it well otherwise life becomes too serious too hard and entire all the sudden has panic attacks over anything and everything mental breakdowns becomes su*cidal etc. just laugh it off n realize no one genuinely hates you’re very essence or being people are too focused on themselves and just like to fuck around especially on the Internet! Only reason I typed so much is cuz I see so many people now on the net that seem like they are really suffering internally over perspective based stuff not even unchangeable uncontrollable but stuff they can dictate with some work maybe a little input from others etc. most people I’ve come to find out don’t have real friends it’s usually surface level shit, find someone you’ve suffered through some shit with lost with won with shit with ate with, friends or family those are real friends not the cornball at work that asks to go out once every two or three weeks to the bar.
@shin-ok8nk
@shin-ok8nk 4 месяца назад
@jamesvoris3921 yea ofc I was just joking around lol genuinely exactly for the future I can't complain about my acc I barely been playing seen 2.0
@damienrobinson134
@damienrobinson134 4 месяца назад
I have a good question, my BS pre RM buff is 152 speed and 3.3k atk, my kafka with goated pieces on atk boots is 3.9k atk and 137 speed(could be at 4.2k and 140 but had to swap pieces to BS for speed tuning) after RM buff they end up being 162 and 161 respectively before the enemies even get a turn, is this the optimal speed tuned build for this Team(RM, BS, Kafka, and HH)cuz this video u said ud want a med speed BS and a fast Kafka so I'm asking which is better?
@Kyoukan.
@Kyoukan. 4 месяца назад
I'm so glad I was forced to pull for Huohuo as I was in desperate need for a better sustain unit. I can now run several teams very comfortably knowing I have a good enough variety for MOC clearing or any other endgame modes, thankfully.
@vickdinvick5485
@vickdinvick5485 4 месяца назад
Huohuo is soo good... i thought i was really regret pulling her because i already have luocha AND fu xuan, (no gepy nor bailu) soo no really need for another sustain and that still stands too this day if u have those two, u are all good to go..... but my thoughs on pulling for her was the cleanse mostly, in my head the game was going to shift heavily on debufing the players... was not the case.. at least not as i was expecting... but now she is my number 1 sustainer... i only replace her with fu xuan when the comp needs more crit rate and thats it... if the comp is good on that... huohuo it is, ....my poor luocha is almost perma benched now lol... but no completly tho.. some comps i prefer him
@leZerUchiha
@leZerUchiha 4 месяца назад
i legit pulled huo huo on acciden and it was the best thing i couldve done without her amazing heals and cleanses i would not ahve made it far on my acc well i did have kafka so i was fine when i got kafka but huo huo took me to another level fr
@camilaloaiza7731
@camilaloaiza7731 4 месяца назад
HuoHuo is such a great unit, really amazing upgrade for any account but I still feel we need an specific sustainer for DoT comps, a Physical Healer that can apply Bleed, buff DoT DMG and deal some DMG, something like a lifestealer (+Adult or Medium Female model).
@theatter1837
@theatter1837 4 месяца назад
@@vickdinvick5485 Luocha is good if you need extra SP, so like a slower but more greedy playstyle. He's a decent AoE breaker too, and good with clutch heals (2T cd tho). I like to build him fast because he can reset his field very quickly. For DoT teams tho, HH is the clear winner here. But LC or RM won't be too far behind. Would be nice to see a chart for their dmg contribution in Kafka + BS team, like the 3rd slot comparison chart in the video.
@vickdinvick5485
@vickdinvick5485 4 месяца назад
@@theatter1837 ohh dont get me wrong.. i think luocha is fantastic... hes soo good that hes kinda overkill if u have decent build units, like 3.2k+ hp and 1k+ def on everyone... on those scnearios is can go more offensive with huohuo... for the energy... but overall i think u right is not much of a dif betwen them dmg wise.... and fast luocha is the way to go imho, no for the field itself but for the free skill heal to be ready faster.
@lenoKM13
@lenoKM13 4 месяца назад
Genuinely, respectfully good video
@playerone282
@playerone282 4 месяца назад
Me watching this knowing the best in slot DoT team and using it a lot already but is still drawn in by MrPokke's Godlike Content Love your videos King!
@makunl8996
@makunl8996 3 месяца назад
mr pokke, i have an e2 kafka, but no ruan mei. do you think running 3 dots 1 sustain (kaf bs guinafen huohuo) or 2 dots 1sp(asta/pela) 1 sustain is better in term of faster moc clearance? thanks for reading.
@Solidhatzi
@Solidhatzi 4 месяца назад
good shit mr choke
@andreluna7541
@andreluna7541 4 месяца назад
have you considered using march 7 (EHR) with moment of victory lightcone as the sustainer slot? ult to freeze enemies and make them take "extra turns" to more DOTs procs?
@Nudderbols
@Nudderbols 4 месяца назад
Does Kafka still want Atk% rope over Energy Regen rope with black swan?
@huyvu5014
@huyvu5014 4 месяца назад
Hi, so if I have a BS at 160 speed+3.2k atk, should I swap out the spd boots for atk boots since then I have exactly 135 speed and a bunch of free atk (3.7k)?
@leZerUchiha
@leZerUchiha 4 месяца назад
it depends but technically u dont wwant black swann too fast but uw ant her fast enough so id say yea go to 135 speed altho i run my black swan super slow to rack up that damage lol and i dont run glamoth so yea go to 135 but its up to your prefense u got lucky sub statss fr gj
@m3ssiah518
@m3ssiah518 4 месяца назад
me started playing hsr because of black swan after getting her in reroll . realising that kafka banner was 1 patch before 💀
@warshawgameshd3432
@warshawgameshd3432 4 месяца назад
So would 135 speed BS with speed boots and 3.6k attack be better, or 160 speed with 3.7k attack?
@thatoneguywhoseverywhere6978
@thatoneguywhoseverywhere6978 4 месяца назад
Just came out for a workout then mr chokke suddenly dropped a banger
@saskia6148
@saskia6148 4 месяца назад
How does tingyun as third slot compare to these teams? I’ve been running (and liking) Tingyun, Kafka, BS, and Huo Huo and it allows for a ton of ults
@sf4603
@sf4603 4 месяца назад
Interesting to see that at least as far as damage you dont lose too much for subbing out ruan mei. Nice to know if my other team is really struggling i can give them my ruan mei for an extra bump
@kindredspiritgg
@kindredspiritgg 4 месяца назад
@MrPokke should I use Tingyun as my 3rd unit for better ult uptime or should I go with Asta for higher speed (also will speed buffs trigger glamoth set?)
@kindredspiritgg
@kindredspiritgg 4 месяца назад
I also have e6 for both tingyun and asta fyi.
@pontifexmaximvs9563
@pontifexmaximvs9563 4 месяца назад
What's the sauces for those in 2:23?
@MrPokkesNeutralFan
@MrPokkesNeutralFan 4 месяца назад
Could you please make a video about 100% uptime ult BS? Tutorial light cone, energy recharge relic and Bronya
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 4 месяца назад
I will never forget watching you get 1/46 ER ropes 😭
@Alice-ft5tt
@Alice-ft5tt 4 месяца назад
Oh that Outfit looks nice😊
@juanpablosambo8729
@juanpablosambo8729 4 месяца назад
Is there a limit to the amount of debuffs in elite monsters?
@HSRFirefly
@HSRFirefly 4 месяца назад
MrChokke, from my experience, i found it very cope if I do not run Ruan Mei with the DoT comp. I tried replacing her with the other DoTs like Guinaifen or another support like Asta and from seeing it on my end, the damage isnt just a 5% dps loss. It was to a point wherein i found DoT comp ass without Ruan Mei. Was I doing something wrong? Also, for the E6S5 teams, yea, the problem then becomes the enemy arent strong enough to handle their damage. And well, the fact that an E6S5 Jingliu is so frontloaded but better consistency due to her Spectral Uptime being longer (from experience) compared to an E6S5 DoT comp is quite huge. Not saying that the E6S5 graph is wrong but when everyone is doing a gazilliion amounts of dmg, it would come down to how soon can they deal that damage on a 0 cycle clear. Plus to be perfectly honest, an E6S5 Jingliu is able to 0 cycle MoC12 (with or without Ice weakness) even if she does not have her best supports like Bronya and Ruan Mei. (im saying 0 cycle coz if ur a damage dealer that cant 0 cycle at E6 then you might as well just be a skill point generator lol)
@dumbledore_loves_anime
@dumbledore_loves_anime 4 месяца назад
I agree. I tried it out too, and running E6 Sampo or E6 Guinafein was just no where the level of even my E0 Ruan Mei. It's not a slight DMG increase, it's quite apparanent. + Break efficiency+ speed + delay, all of those essential aspects are all lost.
@whisperviz1346
@whisperviz1346 4 месяца назад
I also feel like Ruan mei is much stronger addition for kafka than it looks like.
@TheAnaz41745
@TheAnaz41745 4 месяца назад
Yeah, also if you're aiming for Breaks, then the 3rd DoT may or may not help if they don't hit the weakness element of the enemy, while Ruan Mei can boost the break efficiency of your team so as long as the enemies are weak to Lightning and/or Wind then Kafka and Black Swan would be enough to break them
@hikkeiable
@hikkeiable 4 месяца назад
@@dumbledore_loves_anime same experience sampo dot application is dogshit and when he finally stacks wind sheer on max against 2 elites they are already dead lmao, i havent tried guinaifen but i cant rely on her cuz i my second team is topaz fua stuff and i dont want to send e1s1 topaz against fire resistant enemies
@xenoemblem7
@xenoemblem7 4 месяца назад
@@dumbledore_loves_anime Is this the part where it's more of a skill issue than Ruan Mei issue? 😅
@TheAnaz41745
@TheAnaz41745 4 месяца назад
So I have a question I have a mid speed Kafka and Black Swan, both with 134-135 speed and 3000+ attack using Speed boots. Should I change Black Swan boots to Atk% to make a lower speed but higher attack Black Swan or keep it as is?
@bromegaman5962
@bromegaman5962 4 месяца назад
I think you should stay with speed boots to get to 134. The only exception is if you have Mei and her speed boost can get you to 134 speed while using attack boots. Asta could work for that as well. Having 2 turns per cycle is going to be better overall since you will get more energy, more arcana and more skill points. Having more arcana and having her ultimate active will translate to more damage.
@TheAnaz41745
@TheAnaz41745 4 месяца назад
@@bromegaman5962Yeah, I do pair them with Ruan Mei and the 134-135 are their speed stats before factoring buffs. If I took out the Speed boots though, Black Swan will lose 25 speed, and getting to 134 again with only Ruan Mei isn’t possible, unless she’s using Hackerspace, which my Ruan Mei doesn’t since I’m giving her Watchmaker set
@Clutchassassin
@Clutchassassin 4 месяца назад
@MrPokke E0 Luka can trigger bleed with his enhanced basic to 80% but E6 permits him to trigger 8% for each Punch before the uppercut. That's why he's still viable against physical weak enemies even at E0
@UUpersonal
@UUpersonal 4 месяца назад
The picture at 5:25, the origin video used the comparson betweed arcana and lightning-lord not as how backloaded/slow the damage is, but how the damage dealt outside of the character's turn. A bit of misinformation.
@mrlj2707
@mrlj2707 4 месяца назад
I‘m unsure if I should pull for her lightcone. Does it make that much of a difference over S4 Eyes of Prey? Since Jing Yuan is next, I’m considering going for his lightcone instead, since it seems like the best erudition one by a mile What would you guys do?
@pinkinglily6447
@pinkinglily6447 4 месяца назад
Her LC has a big difference compared to even S5 eyes of prey or GNSW, mainly due to def ignore it provide. But since you have S4 eyes of prey or maybe even S5 before mission start you can use those and pull for jingyuan LC instead. This is jingyuan's rerun and if you missed his LC then you're going to have to wait for a long time while BS will have a rerun after a few patch
@mrlj2707
@mrlj2707 4 месяца назад
@@pinkinglily6447Thanks for the info regarding her lc. I probably will wait for JY lc then
@laxusravenheim6085
@laxusravenheim6085 4 месяца назад
Genuinely , useful video for me, especially that Ruan Mei substitution analysis. I feel like my KingYuan needs her more than my two DoT wives ty
@spiracloud
@spiracloud 4 месяца назад
I need to know where to get that tingyun bolster!!!!
@JMCxNeo1225214
@JMCxNeo1225214 4 месяца назад
NOT THE GUOBA PICTURE WHEN YOU SAID "BACK LOADED" 😭😂😭😂😭
@owa1985
@owa1985 4 месяца назад
I noticed that Arcana gets put on the enemy team on turn 0, so I actually run my welfare Dr Ratio with my Black Swan because I only have 1 set of follow up attack relics (that Ratio is currently town biking with Topaz) and even as the debuff tag enabler, Black Swan is way better than any other unit I have, especially if I want to auto-play the fight for whatever reason.
@Autismo216
@Autismo216 4 месяца назад
Hi I am new to the DoT stuff so is my blackswan with 135 speed 130 ehr and 3500 attack good and is it okay for my Guinaifen to be faster then my blackswan since I'm planning to build Kafka to 161 speed?
@robertharp16
@robertharp16 4 месяца назад
That's a solid line up, your doing fine
@Xeun3603
@Xeun3603 4 месяца назад
Nice
@astraltempestvt
@astraltempestvt 4 месяца назад
Is it worth using a model resin to get an effect hit rate rope since I never get them in drops? Or should I still save for energy regen? What ya'll think?
@georgezhang1573
@georgezhang1573 4 месяца назад
There is no ehr rope, only ehr body
@astraltempestvt
@astraltempestvt 4 месяца назад
that is what I meant to say. Was thinking of energy rope when I was typing since that is what I usually save for@@georgezhang1573
@phxgamingxd-hatdogedition1157
@phxgamingxd-hatdogedition1157 4 месяца назад
Mr Pokke, what's ur take on the BS sphere, assuming that I will be using her as a standalone without any buffers like RM or Asta, Wind DMG% orb or ATK% Orb??? Which is better?
@CoverageGlitch
@CoverageGlitch 4 месяца назад
Wind if you dont have RM
@hikkeiable
@hikkeiable 4 месяца назад
bro use calculator wtf wind dmg better
@pinkinglily6447
@pinkinglily6447 4 месяца назад
Generally Atk% sphere are BiS in most case, but the difference is really small unless you use RM of which the difference is somewhere above 10%. Go with the one that has better substats
@Deathclaw6364
@Deathclaw6364 4 месяца назад
What are your thoughts on running Black Swan with Dr. Ratio? She inflicts debuffs for him including a def shred and since he's single target only she can help tremendously by taking down the adds herself. There is obviously better options for Dr. Ratio but she can't be the worst I think it should be decent.
@jck4482
@jck4482 4 месяца назад
I do it and it's a pretty similar experience to running Little Gui with Dr. Ratio. Little Gui and Black Swan both apply multiple debuffs which Dr. Ratio loves, help deal with adds and provide AOE dmg. Probably not the most optimal but it works. Edit: heck, I just realized you can even run Ratio + BS + Gui + Sustain and it probably won't be the worst thing in the world. Gui's vulnerability debuff stacks well with BS's def shred, Ratio applying imaginary weakness break to an enemy gives BS more time to stack Arcana, Gui can apply DOTs with just her basic and trigger Arcana when BS ult is active, etc.
@tjstyles1659
@tjstyles1659 4 месяца назад
Pokke is a teacher that I haven't know that I need
@CapSoo999
@CapSoo999 4 месяца назад
One thing I want to add is Asta is way better than other support for DOT because she not only offers same amount of DPS boost but also full team speed up, which means your healing/shielding unit also performs better, and you get way better survivability than Pela or other DOT units…
@ataluscas
@ataluscas 4 месяца назад
I'm confused, what's better 160 speed Black Swan or 134 spd Black Swan? A lot of people told me to build speed on her.
@ataluscas
@ataluscas 4 месяца назад
Okay he just answered 160 is the perfect speed but only with high ATK
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 4 месяца назад
4:50 BACKLOADED INTO GOUBA? SUSGE
@shermanlaw5223
@shermanlaw5223 4 месяца назад
if i have 119.9 effect hit rate, is that fine or is 120 more optimal?
@hdngyn
@hdngyn 4 месяца назад
Optimal is 120.1
@KevKrieger32
@KevKrieger32 4 месяца назад
If there is a degree course for Honkai Star Rail, then we need ProfPokke doing the lecture :D I wouldn't miss any lecture! xD Great video!
@markanthonyyap7674
@markanthonyyap7674 4 месяца назад
Genuine question, are you the one editing your vids?
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 4 месяца назад
I have my editors for most of my vids now, only a few is still done by myself :)
@soreq3698
@soreq3698 4 месяца назад
What about Tingyun & Aventurine?
@AzurFenix
@AzurFenix 4 месяца назад
Meanwhile I've got E2 Kafka and her LC, E2 Mei on max out MotP, E1 Black Swan with LC. Now I'm stuck waiting for Huohuo rerun 😅
@HiranmoyDeori-op3xj
@HiranmoyDeori-op3xj 4 месяца назад
Fun fact: Black swan has a mole on her back ( a bit towards the right of the main spine )
@rellnell41910
@rellnell41910 4 месяца назад
That’s wassup bro she has a pixel on her back who would’ve thought
@rikkucrowe
@rikkucrowe 4 месяца назад
Having seen black swan 2 cycle moc 12 with sampo Kafka And guin Alongside ruan mei and lynx shes interesting
@valkyrieregalia
@valkyrieregalia 4 месяца назад
For 0 cycle enjoyers, Black Swan, Kafka, Ruan Mei, Tingyun. That's the team you want in my experience. I got a 0 cycle clear in MoC 12 second half using this. All three 5 stars are at E1 for me. Black Swan and Kafka have their signatures. I unfortunately do not have Ruan Mei's, but hers would help. I used Carve the Moon on Tingyun to deal with some energy issues I had since I don't have Ruan Mei's signature, but DDD has some strong benefits too. In this team, you may want to experiment with an ERR on Kafka to reduce some of the rng, although I did stick with an attack rope, I had to have some things go my way to get the Ults up when needed which wouldn't have been as bad with an ERR on Kafka. Just some insights.
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 4 месяца назад
I did something similar except using huohuo instead of ruan mei. Easily hit 50 stacks and cleared in 2 cycles.
@phantomkid8952
@phantomkid8952 4 месяца назад
Why should Kafka be faster than Black Swan? Isn't a faster Black Swan better since she can apply a defense shred first before Kafka?
@BaraKingu
@BaraKingu 4 месяца назад
well i couldnt get kafka i'll prob run her in a ruanmei, gunaifen bailu comp i think
@Chocula
@Chocula 4 месяца назад
Is that the sword from the Perfect Grade 1/60 Perfect Strike Gundam? V v good taste in gunpla, Mr. Pokke.
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 4 месяца назад
Yep 🗿
@rellnell41910
@rellnell41910 4 месяца назад
9:46 why should Kafka be faster I’m confused? Don’t u want black swan to go first to apply the arcana then have Kafka detonate it?
@jc_mosh
@jc_mosh 4 месяца назад
Arcana is applied with 65% base chance whenever an enemy enters battle (talent lvl 10)
@SheldonDarianRoach
@SheldonDarianRoach 4 месяца назад
Wait? Dude is EOD Gamer your account as well?
@bryanjason7202
@bryanjason7202 4 месяца назад
Bs, Kafka, asta. Would u run attack boots with them or straight speed?
@georgezhang1573
@georgezhang1573 4 месяца назад
Attack would be better for bs and kafka, you can get to 110 speed with atk boots and still max glamoth with asta buff. Speed boots would be fine for Kafka as well, but you really want attack boots on bs.
@bryanjason7202
@bryanjason7202 4 месяца назад
@@georgezhang1573 amazing, do I need a 2 turn ult for asta? Or can I run her with a Ruan lightcone instead and make it a 3 turn ult
@georgezhang1573
@georgezhang1573 4 месяца назад
@@bryanjason7202 not sure how helpful ruan lc would be without 160 BE(if you do have a 160 BE asta it would be nice). 3 turn ults would work if you ult on kafka’s turn so the dot triggering has glamoth buff. 2 turn ult would possibly be better, but I’m not sure you have that much sp, so if you can get a 3 turn ult with ruan lc it would likely be better.
@VesuviusH70
@VesuviusH70 4 месяца назад
Teacher. What are your feelings on using Fire TB with Trend of the Universal Market as your sustain unit to apply guaranteed burns to help increase Arcana stacks? I'm wondering if it's competitive with Huohuo.
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 4 месяца назад
It's maxes at 3 stacks when triggered by allies. So if won't help if you kafka s1 but it will add stacks on enemy turn. Not sure if bs will add an extra stack via her basic atk on not.
@Kspice9000
@Kspice9000 4 месяца назад
Huohuo straight up is too useful for dots to not use atm. Her atk% and energy charge add to much value. Energy alone takes out a full 30 energy for her ult. Allowing you to 2 turn if you have err rope/ penachony 2 set.
@heron619
@heron619 4 месяца назад
Yo HSR community! As someone who pulled for E0S1 Black Swan but missed out on Kafka's rerun because of losing the 50/50 on Ruan Mei made me go broke (in game), do characters in these games have more than one rerun? And if yes how often do they happen? I deeply regret for not breaking my Mintpicker virginity and swiping for Kafka because I didn't know how important she'd be for Dot comps. (Skill issue I know) I'm running Black Swan with Guinaifen and Ruan Mei for now. HSR is my first gacha I'm like 2 months in as of now and have no idea how Genshin and HI3 do their rerun banners and I want to go all in on Mommy Milkers Dot team for the long run.
@TOTGodofWar
@TOTGodofWar 4 месяца назад
After Penacony goes through most of their new characters should expect Kafka again. May be like 6 months before Kafka runs again.
@heron619
@heron619 4 месяца назад
@@TOTGodofWar Well thankfully it's a pretty casual game and Dr. Ratio is there for the second team so the wait won't be that big of an issue for me as long as it happens period. In the meantime I could also grab Hwehwe when she gets her rerun as well. It's kinda a backwards way of building a team but idc, I just find Hypercarry teams boring.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 4 месяца назад
They've been rerunning characters at a fast rate. But as the other commenter mentioned, 6 months is a reasonable expectation.
@TOTGodofWar
@TOTGodofWar 4 месяца назад
@@heron619 I wish you the best of luck with your account building
@StripedSooner
@StripedSooner 4 месяца назад
Someone get this man a small lavalier mic for his standup sessions lol
@Kaien-qf6cr
@Kaien-qf6cr 4 месяца назад
What is better for BS, LC Tutorial + planar ERR or LC sampo + planar atk% ?
@mrpokkee
@mrpokkee 4 месяца назад
sampo + planar atk
@TheAnaz41745
@TheAnaz41745 4 месяца назад
You mean the reverse, Kaien? If you're using Tutorial you want it for the extra energy so you can pair it with Atk planar, while with Eyes of Prey you solve the energy issue with ER planar From what you wrote there if it's in term of damage then obviously the Eyes of Prey and Atk planar combination will deal the most damage, but you'll be lacking in energy which can be crucial
@Kaien-qf6cr
@Kaien-qf6cr 4 месяца назад
@@TheAnaz41745 i mean if Tutorial + ERR = guaranted 3 turn ulti, sampo + atk = more dmg I want to know what is better, guaranted 3 turn ulti but less atk , or more atk but need more turn to ulti
@TheAnaz41745
@TheAnaz41745 4 месяца назад
I see. If you want to maximize the damage of your first rotation then yeah, going full damage should give you the best results when the Arcana dot explodes in the end But you'll take an extra turn or two after that to do the second rotation, so I wonder if that's really better than a smoother rotation in longer fights
@aabuyaa
@aabuyaa 4 месяца назад
im running jingliu kafka ruan mei and fuxuan bcs they all hv s+ on prydwen
@OrtonHeadXIV
@OrtonHeadXIV 4 месяца назад
Most sane Pokke chat
@saptashwapaul5583
@saptashwapaul5583 4 месяца назад
i have been using bswan at 140 speed and kafka at 136, which made sense to me as bswan would apply/increase arcana before kafka does everytime but professor pokke said kafka should always go before bswan. Can anyone explain why that is so?
@jereg4662
@jereg4662 4 месяца назад
Yes pls i have the same question too, help please
@Gaeneron095
@Gaeneron095 4 месяца назад
not a theorycrafter or anything, but here's what i think not only does kafka benefit from 160 spd thanks to glamoth, but having that speed allows kafka to act twice in a single cycle, essentially allowing her to trigger arcana after bswan's application in the same cycle anyway (i may be wrong on this but that's what my understanding is)
@jereg4662
@jereg4662 4 месяца назад
@@Gaeneron095 hmm valid point, but wouldnt you want bswan to go first to apply the arcana?
@Gaeneron095
@Gaeneron095 4 месяца назад
@@jereg4662 do take note that bswan ALWAYS applied 1 stack of arcana the moment enemies spawn in, so using kafka skill will automatically add stacks right away
@Gaeneron095
@Gaeneron095 4 месяца назад
*applies, and also i cant believe i forgot that crucial info and not really answer the question lol sorry
@apokarin427
@apokarin427 4 месяца назад
using tingyun is better in simulated universe because you can unlimited max stack for black swan, but it is kinda overkill because damage is so high that last boss is melted, using two sustain more easy run because boss still can one shoot
@hazard1one
@hazard1one 4 месяца назад
don't have kafka and i failed to resist black swan .Been running BS,sampo(e6) ,ruan mei and huohuo ,its decent and felt way better than my jy comp at least ...
@Xeun3603
@Xeun3603 4 месяца назад
Sampo is great pick for BS, not as crazy as kafka but very much clears all content for wind weakness
@Mr_wisk
@Mr_wisk 4 месяца назад
so i need to build asta or pela because i lost 50/50 trying to get ruan mei ;-;
@whisperviz1346
@whisperviz1346 4 месяца назад
The math show that BS increase kafka DoT damage about 20-30% but I personally feel like my Kafka DoT team become more significantly much stronger even against enemies without lightning/wind weakness. is it because I run with full premium DoT team (Kafka, BS, Ruan mei, Huo huo, all fully built) Also, My kafka has 4.4k attack with 128 base speed while my BS has 3.4k attack with 143 base speed. Should I lower my kafka attack for higher base speed? (my kafka will hit 3.9K attack and 149 base speed If I switch her boots)
@bromegaman5962
@bromegaman5962 4 месяца назад
In your case, you would want to switch to speed boots only if you can hit 160 on Kafka. Since you have Mei there to add ~10 speed, you are almost there. For Swan you could go down to 124 base speed with atk boots, then you would get 10 speed from Mei to get up to 134. Or if you're able to get up to 150 with speed boots, then she could get to 160 as well. That would be difficult though, due to her needing much more EHR subs, but it's possible.
@f4ck00
@f4ck00 4 месяца назад
u can zero cycle the current moc 11 and below with the new dot teams, its much easier if u match the weakness types.
@davisitoforeverenever
@davisitoforeverenever 4 месяца назад
I was expecting a video of swan but they always talk more about Kafka sincerely swan the best dot who gave life to the others
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 4 месяца назад
All this BACKLOADED talk is starting to make me imagine if Jing Yuan has his own Kafka.
@user-is8cf5zt5e
@user-is8cf5zt5e 4 месяца назад
I thought it is Topaz no?
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
@skullkrusher-dx4kg 4 месяца назад
For anyone who plays warfrane swan reminds me of saryn.
@3bO0d
@3bO0d 4 месяца назад
I started to play the game 2 days ago so someone please tell me who would be better for me black swan or sparkle?
@g.e.f2855
@g.e.f2855 4 месяца назад
Sparkle is more universal and future proof
@bibi9277
@bibi9277 4 месяца назад
Harmony units are top1 priority and sustain units are top2. Anyway the best companions for sw won't be available for a half a year +-, yet Sparkle can make any dd stronger, even dr ratio, also qq will be in her banner and she with e6 and Sparkle will be a badass combo btw (but if u get sw early trying to get tingyun it won't hurt)
@user-hf2hw9zh6h
@user-hf2hw9zh6h 4 месяца назад
I was so stressed debating with this streamer on tiktok that said BlackSwan absolutely have to be faster than Kafka, if not Kafka won't have anything to detonate. While I think in theory it is right, but him reviewing accounts, and stressing out that BlackSwan has to be faster than Kafka, just stresses me out. Like what bro you prefer people to just lower their Kafka speed to match blackswan's instead, that'll be a dps loss in longer run... Bro I can't 😭. Like I get we want our DOT units to apply DOT first for kafka to detonate. But having other DOT unit out speeding Kafka is just immensely hard. And at that point they are sacrificing ehr% or atk% substats instead for speed...
@marupurusaivamsi4802
@marupurusaivamsi4802 4 месяца назад
My highest dot is 110k with black swan, samp, asta and huohuo. After killing automaton fishes on svarog. Still missing 20 ehr and my eyes of prey is s1.
@Vision0423
@Vision0423 4 месяца назад
I run Kafka BS gepard n Natasha. Easy clear everything. Ultra easy mode.
@gurr1264
@gurr1264 4 месяца назад
I thought that you use hair dryer for a few seconds when this video started.
@IKepoo
@IKepoo 4 месяца назад
black swan E1S1 + kafka E2S1 makes the dmg dot of my gui&luka broken
@gigiofdaphtv
@gigiofdaphtv 4 месяца назад
GENUINELY LISTENING TO OURSTRIMMMMMER!!
@Soltrex-Y
@Soltrex-Y 4 месяца назад
I started after Kafka Banner was over around 7 days ago and i got Black Swan.She still does alot of Damage without even having Sampo.Just slower.(Dr Ratio helps with the Dmg).But i wish there was a way to pull Banners from the past for new players.Without waiting alot of time.(Like a "Choose the Unit Banner you want for 1 Week" or smth)
@rellnell41910
@rellnell41910 4 месяца назад
Wait why should Kafka be faster than black swan
@matheuspereira53
@matheuspereira53 4 месяца назад
Luka talent at e0 can proc bleed with 85% dmg at lvl 10, why is e6 needed just for another 24%?
@criticalf0ll0w16
@criticalf0ll0w16 4 месяца назад
At e6 he triggers bleed multiple times with every hit of his enhanced basic
@alphasusan5368
@alphasusan5368 4 месяца назад
Had to skip ruan mei to ensure black swan but I won 50 50 so desperately waiting for her rerun lol
@justicerain465
@justicerain465 4 месяца назад
Who is Wawa?
@rionyascaret1004
@rionyascaret1004 4 месяца назад
>see the e6 section …So that’s why everything just fucking explodes when I used my Kafka team
@xenoemblem7
@xenoemblem7 4 месяца назад
So you're saying that there's no point in doing DoT without Ruan Mei? I feel like Ruan Mei is too good that doing DoT isn't worth it without her 😅(I don't have Ruan Mei and probably have no intention of pulling)
@pinkinglily6447
@pinkinglily6447 4 месяца назад
Ruan Mei are really good with DoT team, but shes not needed. Ive been replacing her with pela, asta and sometimes tingyun and doing just fine. I guess its just the case of people used to using the best team and not planning to go back
@Ty_Jac
@Ty_Jac 4 месяца назад
I think i managed pretty bis BS then. 118 ehr, 155 spd w/o RM, and 3.7k atk.
@elsard
@elsard 4 месяца назад
I thought BS need to be faster than Kafka, but i was wrong. I was thinking Arcana would be easier to stack with Kafka detonate. Thanks MrPokke
@rellnell41910
@rellnell41910 4 месяца назад
I heard him say that but why tho lol I’m literally confused
@rellnell41910
@rellnell41910 4 месяца назад
I thought black swan should be faster so Kafka can detonate her arcana
@jc_mosh
@jc_mosh 4 месяца назад
When people say swan should be faster it's for the def shred from her skill, arcana will explode either way by kakfa
@elsard
@elsard 4 месяца назад
@@rellnell41910 kafka should be super fast (at least at 161 spd, kafka can move 2-3 times in one cycle)
@rellnell41910
@rellnell41910 4 месяца назад
@@elsard i understand that if it were that easy to get but he said black swan shouldn’t be faster than Kafka and I’m like why lol
@paulyu535
@paulyu535 4 месяца назад
Why would you want Kafka to be faster than BS? You'd want to trigger dots with Kafka after applying them with BS. Yes, she applies dots at the start of battle, but you're missing out on the def shred and extra dot application by having Kafka outspeed her and trigger dots before BS has a chance to do that. That might be the case only for the first turn... but even past that, you want as many arcana stacks on the target before Kafka goes for the trigger which would require BS going first. I could only see Kafka outspeeding BS as being valid if she vastly outspeeds her.
@SwiftWaif
@SwiftWaif 4 месяца назад
I use E1 Black Swan with Blade, she helped me 0-cycle MoC 11 lol. Even though DoT isn't the main focus, with Ruan Mei she can still do respectable damage from the delays and Arcana/Wind Shear detonations when the enemies try to recover.
@s-zs7nn
@s-zs7nn 4 месяца назад
just replace her with a slow bronya and ull do more dmg in that team.
@Kurppalumppu
@Kurppalumppu 4 месяца назад
@@s-zs7nn You speak as if every account automatically has Bronya..
@s-zs7nn
@s-zs7nn 4 месяца назад
@@Kurppalumppu hes doing a 0 cycle on floor 11 with an e1 character that just got released. Its pretty reasonable advice for a person whos doing 0 cycles. And even if he didnt its still useful to be aware of. Also u can guarantee a bronya from standard banner which many players already have.
@Kurppalumppu
@Kurppalumppu 4 месяца назад
@@s-zs7nn Hmm but from the sounds of it, Black Swan was the deciding factor for them. I'm actually trying to pull for another copy of her on my alt account (already have her LC) for the versatility of her E1. Makes her able to amplify other DOT units I use like Serval and Guinaifen (no Kafka either on this acc). Her E1 would boost Blade's Damage on any enemy that has Arcana stacks since that counts as wind shear, so Blade gets the benefit of wind RES reduction + def reduction from Black Swan's skill. Would Bronya's buffs really result in more DMG than Blade + BS + Ruan Mei combined in such a scenario?
@s-zs7nn
@s-zs7nn 4 месяца назад
@@Kurppalumppu yes, thew enemies are already wind weak and u get res shred from ruan meis ult. the def and res shred do not make up for the 100% advance forward and the dmg and crit dmg buff from bronya. Also for a 0 cycle with black swan u want at least ruan meis sig to get ur ult early enough and without fine fruit on ur healer ud probs need to build more spd on her than ud want. Idk if all that investment to make it work is worth it tbh.
@mankewoopwoop
@mankewoopwoop 4 месяца назад
With archeron being nihility, we 'll eventually be able to make a team of archeron-black swan-kafka-natasha for a huge tetten DOT
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 4 месяца назад
Acheron is not DoT, leaks show her kit to be closer to Welt
@okok654
@okok654 4 месяца назад
She hard counters the deer
@farslght
@farslght 4 месяца назад
"Unfortunally"
@leZerUchiha
@leZerUchiha 4 месяца назад
i actually got an insane team comp that nobody ahs thought of, hope u see this poke but ill post a video on it, so its black swan gepard with light cone that when he gets hit he triggers burn, huo huo and any dot character, i do prefrer guinifen but pela and sampo as well this is a team without kafka tho and i still do 50k plus damage maxed out talent for the detonates gepard keeps my team alive and huo huo adds er and attack and is sp efficient while gepard jus auto attacks to get his ult black swan i sometimes keep uptime on ult for 2-3 turns in a row so i get like 30 plus stacks without black swans lightcone and no eidolons, it did take me some time to figure out the kinks to make this happen but tis so busted its funny
@leZerUchiha
@leZerUchiha 4 месяца назад
i also don't run galmoth on black swan i run the effect hit rate orbs bc i don't have a gold effect hitrate peicce yet so i have 3.5k attack with 130 hitrate with jus a little speed
@cervusgaming4320
@cervusgaming4320 4 месяца назад
05:31 dont care, im going to use her regardless(genuinely).
@IncubiAkster
@IncubiAkster 4 месяца назад
My Black Swan has 119.9% effect hit rate. It hurts me.
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