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Cobalt / G5 Intermediate Steering Shaft

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My daughter was complaining of a popping / knocking sound coming from the steering system. A quick inspection revealed the tell tale rusty dust around the steering shaft u-joint in the engine compartment. Thought I'd put a vid together documenting the replacement. The second clip is blurry because I accidentally pressed a button on my camera reducing the quality.....sorry.
No music/radio/swearing or jiggling cameras (well just a little)

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@hudsonriverlee 5 лет назад

Great well explained video, I am faced with the same repair. I am 62 years old. In my entire lifetime after 10 years old, lol.. I have never heard of this repair. My dad was a lifetime car, truck mechanic for UPS.. we worked on used cars on his off time and never did this. Wheel bearings, Carb. Work, brakes, transmission adjustments, shocks, never a steering shaft repair. Here, I am faced with 80.00markup of the replacement part. You give people such as I absolute hope, and confidence to tackle this repair ourselves, not pay the 80.00 mark up or the 105.00 labor charge. I recently change an alternator... 2006 Saturn Ion, was it fun..?? .. no. Lol... again, shop wanted over 300 bucks... I said screw this, I will change it myself. Thanks again for posting this video. My car has 245,000 miles, I am not upset that I must change this intermediate shaft, however, lol, it will outlast the car now.

@sstocker31 5 лет назад

Hey Lee, Glad I inspired you to fix it yourself, it's really not that hard to do.....just need guidance :)

@rwaltwalt4751 9 лет назад

Thanks so much for this video! I had to do this to an '09 Cobalt yesterday. Because of your video, I was able to do this job in about a half an hour! Found the part in my local parts store for $104 American

@duanebrown1981 9 лет назад

thanks, these type of videos are always useful to watch just before doing the job myself

@MrThemaskedbarron 8 лет назад

wicked video buddy. my steering just went on me today.... the wheel spins freely :s I will see if this is the issue( I have a feeling it is) thanks again for a VERY informative video. it's people like you that make fixing cars a breeze and a huge time saver as well thanks again.

@johnslis6018 7 лет назад

james

@89kevino 8 лет назад

hey ssstocker31 just wanted to say thank you for the video, my mechanic quoted me at 500 taxes in to do this job, using your video i saved over 350 bucks!. everything went smooth and only took me about an hour all in! thanks again!

@drgonzo7806 4 года назад

Thanks! This video helped me. In case anyone is wondering why their's didnt come off so easily. My stock one wasn't adjustable to reduce the length, and i had to unbolt the steering column. (make sure you mark it). New replacement was adjustable, and went right in. :)

@georgelegge3393 6 лет назад

I just replaced this shaft in my 2010 cobalt. A couple of things to note to a great video.... First of all, removal of the shaft may not be as simple as sstocker31 had found. Yes, removal of the bolts is pretty straight forward, but my intermediate shaft was seized from telescoping. So simply sliding off the yoke at the steering column was not possible. I ended up cutting off the shaft and removing it in 2 pieces. Since it's not easily accessed at any point inside or under the vehicle, I chose to drill a hole laterally through the shaft inside the vehicle. A 1/2" drilled hole across and a couple of more holes drilled through at 90 degrees to that allows you to break the shaft apart and remove the yoke without any issue. Secondly, I live in an area where salt is used on the roads, so about 2 weeks before I began the repair I started dousing the lower yoke with penetrating oil, every 2 or 3 days. Made removing the lower yoke very easy. Rust can be a killer if the yoke is seized on. Unfortunately, the repair did not fix my problem and I still have clicking while doing slow speed turns. Oh well, 1 more thing ruled out.

@Jstro14 6 лет назад

Awesome info. I'm going to be tackling this soon either tonight or tomorrow. BTW if your vehicle makes clicking when you turn only I'd get under which ever side on the front as these front wheel drive cars have a cv shaft into each knuckle that has splines on the ends one side goes into the hub and the other goes to the inner shaft. Search RU-vid on how to replace cv shaft see if that's your next issue

@georgelegge3393 6 лет назад

@@Jstro14 Thanks for the tip but the clicking noise turned out to be the struts. As the wheel was turned the springs in the strut would pop. First the left, then the right. The strut mounts were bad. I replaced both struts and now all is good! Easy to check this if you watch the strut as someone else turns the steering wheel.

@skippy23418 6 лет назад

Just so people know, if someone looks at the strut while the wheel is turned you can see the strut popping sideways which is causing the same noise I bet we both heard, a loud hollow pop that seemingly resonates through the whole engine compartment and is difficult to localize. Struts indeed was the problem. I wonder if the intermediate steering shaft had anything to do with the problem we both faced.

@FATandSASSY69420 5 лет назад

Thanks for the info, I had to do the same thing. When I cut my shaft in half I could tap it out easy but YMMV.

@randysurline4651 3 года назад

Doesn't look near as bad as I thought. I'll do it in my driveway. Great video. Thank you !

@armyveteran1000 6 лет назад

Had similar issue with my 2008 cobalt. 2 mechanic shops couldn't diagnose the problem and didnt want to mess with it cause it's an electronic system.. Advised to Goto the stealership which charged me 370.00 total parts and labor.. little costly but glad it wasn't an electronic problem.. could have been worse ..

@regharrington6465 6 лет назад

Just a thought, if you need more room to work you can also remove the driver's seat. Only two bolts at the back of the seat and front legs of the seat slides into the frame on the floor. Going to replace my steering shaft, not only clunking, the steering is getting tight!

@slayedbypinky9630 5 лет назад

Reg Harrington there’s a recall on the 2005 cobalt power steering piece it’s electrical and gets very hard to turn

@darcymichaud317 6 лет назад

ssstocker31 did the cobalt you did this on have like 3 inches of play either way before it would start to steer just trying to figure out if it's the intermediate shaft or the rack itself thanks

@Bokicazver 3 года назад

Thank you Sir; excellent video...

@sstocker31 3 года назад

Thanks, did this vid about 5 years ago and it's still helping people out...great satisfaction for me

@dickweiner5665 6 лет назад

It works ?make sure it's unhooked both ends. Grease lube it and it will pop right in.

@FATandSASSY69420 5 лет назад

Someone already commented this but I had trouble getting the U-joints off the shafts. The intermediate shaft has a telescoping rod in the middle, you can test it out if you already bought the new shaft. My old one turned out to be seized, so no matter what I did I couldn't collapse the shaft enough to remove the U-Joints. I ended up taking a cutting wheel to the part that was inside the cabin and then it came apart easy. Made a hell of a mess and you have to watch out for the wires but it worked. Just wanted to let y'all know, I wasted too much time trying to bang on it.

@RADMAN752 4 месяца назад

Thank you very much for posting

@noscopesnaughti6240 2 года назад

This is going to help me, much respect from to yah from the G5 brothers

@BusDriver101 5 лет назад

Video helped me today, I did it on the ground, hammered a pry bar from below into that opening and came off easy.

@CrAzY6tothe6 3 года назад

Saaame lmaoo. That pry bar into the clamp was a huge life saver inside the car. It wouldn't come out a good hammer into that and it came right off

@michaelsheppard9043 8 лет назад

Holy cow. Why is the cross-bolt on the inside so freakin' long? Gosh, it looks like it sticks out the back over 12mm (1/2").

@JohnnyFnG84 6 лет назад

To the daughter who got her car fixed... by your dad some ratcheting spanners! Great vid :)

@sstocker31 6 лет назад

John Giallanza Thanks John, I made this vid to help others, hopefully it helps you

@quentin5095 2 года назад

Thanks a lot. Really good clear video. And to the point.

@VictorManuel-ut5jb 5 лет назад

Good job.

@sirsweetness8332 2 года назад

Have to do an HHR in the next week

@skipkuchta1357 8 лет назад

Thanks for sharing although I did not pay enough attention to the part about pulling the rubber boot from the other side. looks like I am taking my tire off again.

@lethaparker1854 3 года назад

Good Job 👍 what something like this cost. I know all cars varies. I have a 2008 Chevy Impala

@Paddygfw 9 лет назад

Thank you very much....saved me money.......thanks again

@chewmanfu1 8 лет назад

I purchased a"new" one from advance auto, when it showed up on UPS I opened the box to find one that looked like it had been on a vehicle already...anyway the ujoints were solid so I just went with it. I had to get new bolts, the factory came with 8 mm by 45 long. the replacement part required 10 mm diameter which meant I had to go to a socket cap screw as the hex hd leaves no room for the socket...what a frickin dam mess.

@DougLo 6 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to make the Video, I was able to identify the issue with my 2010 cobalt.

@sstocker31 6 лет назад

Glad my vid helped...

@nickday3359 9 лет назад

Great video and very helpful. The only problem I have is the bit at the end, getting the rubber boot fitted. At the end you mentioned that it is fitted from engine side, not from the inside? Having a hard time getting a seal so getting all the engine noise coming through where the boot is attached.

@sstocker31 8 лет назад

+Nick Day Yes I had to work at it from both sides to get the boot to fit properly, take your time and work around from one point and you'll get it. Maybe have a helper working with you to get it fitted.

@hammerhead6537 5 лет назад

Well done video. Detailed, thank you.

@phillipmartin2531 Год назад

Need to change anti theft module and the key cylinder, what do you do next to start

@Canadian_Girl27 8 лет назад

Not sure if you will see this comment or not, but I was wondering when the popping and knocking sound occurs? I have noticed for awhile now that once I get over 100kms to 120kms highway driving the steering wheel starts to shake back and forth a tad and a popping/knocking noise happens while it is shaky. Just wondering if this is when your daughters was happening. I was told by a shop not to replace it because every time they fix one it comes back recently after the repair. Just wondering if this fixed her issue, since it has been a year, did the issue happen again? Sorry for the questions but I have put a lot of money into the front end of my (yellow) cobalt, and its getting expensive on a low income. Thanks for the video though!

@sstocker31 8 лет назад

+canadian_girl27 The popping sound happened mostly at slow speed when she was parking. This did fix her issue and has be working fine, no problems at all. Your shop is full of BS....time to find a new shop. You can look at yours yourself, and if you see the telltale rusty looking dust, it likely needs to be changed. The shaking of your steering wheel at speed is caused by out of balance tires, or worn front tires that need to be replaced. Walmart is an inexpensive place to get balancing done. Lots of good mechanics work out of their home (as I do.) Look on kijiji for one, and ask if he has done this before on this model of car, and what his warranty policy is. Usually you can get this work done for half the going rate.

@jordanwashington5238 6 лет назад

nice video man thank you for making this

@Danroxye01 6 лет назад

So by using the marks as reference on both end and making sure to line it up then I should not need a wheel alignment. I'm just asking cause the shop's submission want to charge me for an alignment .

@sstocker31 6 лет назад

No alignment required....the shops just trying to gouge you

@gldixon86 5 лет назад

Thanks again for the video good descriptions an views amazing work oh an good job dad

@stevennicol2744 8 лет назад

Thanks Buddy... Nice job...

@JeffHazardous 8 лет назад

I just replaced this shaft on my 2005 Cobalt, I have to warn you, it wasn't as easy as shown here. My original one doesn't collapse on itself so it took a little extra work to get it off.

@512moho 6 лет назад

Jeff Dooley any tips? Having a tough time getting mine off.

@donw5903 5 лет назад

I also had issues getting the shaft to collapse. I eventually removed the two bolts holding the steering rack assembly to the frame. Then slide the rack assembly toward the engine and the passenger side of the car. This gave me enough clearance to get the shaft off the spline spindle on the steering wheel side of the intermediate shaft.

@coxj2000 4 года назад

Currently working on mine. I'm fairly novice and fought for hours to get the old one off, especially below where it was rusted on. The new one is finally on the rack but I haven't yet gotten it attached to the column. I may wait for tomorrow as I'm beat.

@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 2 года назад

I replaced the intermediate steering shaft with using this method, using a long bar and tapping it upwards with the hammer, I used a mini sledge hammer and a crowbar. As for the rack and pinion assembly, I changed that too, took out the 2 of the long 18mm bolts that holds down the rack and pinion to the sub frame, after taking the wheels off, and putting it on axle stands, also took off the rear middle motor mount, and then angled and pulled it out from the driver's side wheel well. I removed the passenger side rack and pinion bolt from the top, with very long ratchet extension bar with 18mm flex socket and ratchet wrench, also used 18mm combination wrench as well, also cleaned the rust off the bolts with steel brush, and put anti-seize on it, and it's all done. Lots of PB blaster or Liquid Wrench penetrating fluid, and soaking time helps alot. Also tapping the new intermediate steering shaft from the top, and checking it, repeat it until the bolt goes through the side, do it tap it down little bit at a time.

@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 2 года назад

I rebuilt my intermediate steering shaft with the u joint from a junk yard steering shaft, that I removed from a Cadillac. After I got home I pressed out the good and like new, steering u joint from the junk yard steering shaft, that was on the interior end of the steering shaft, then pressed out my old rusty u joint, and put in the replacement u joint and it works as good as new, cleaned it and applied lots of grease on it too. My Cobalt has a Cadillac steering u joint pressed in to it.

@GreatgramaMcCormick 8 лет назад

Thank you so much. This is such a great help.

@kylesteffen4749 8 лет назад

Thanks for the detailed video. I assume this is almost identical to the '08 Astra? Tired of local "Saturn Authorized Service Centers" not being able to figure out my car then charging out the @$$ for their trial & error.

@xReesieCupx 9 лет назад

I can't remember if you mention where you got the u joint? This video came out just in time for me to fix this problem on a cobalt. I checked ebay for them but they list two spline counts? Was wondering if you knew of that before you got yours.

@nickyd10110 7 лет назад

thanks for the great video very helpful

@rdsamfrench 5 лет назад

One simple grease fitting would solve a lot of problems

@alvon911 5 лет назад

Amen to that. If that u joint was greaseable it would last the life of the car!

@oscaresquivel3625 4 года назад

Yes! But they do this intentionally so they can sell parts later , they can't make a car with parts that they gonna last for ever , they know how to do it but not going to do it for you!

@johnnyversaci7091 4 года назад

Also this is common problem with some cars, gm are by far the worst so they must be made shitty. Toyota started putting rubber boots around this joint

@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 2 года назад

Putting rubber boots over metal parts has been done for a very very long time, such as strut boots, inner tie rods, cv shafts, and so on. I am surprised it took slow minded toyota this long to start putting boot over intermediate steering shaft. I already put did this 5 years ago, probably before toyota even did it, putting a boot over the intermediate steering shaft, it's been cleaned and covered with lots of grease to prevent rusting and to provide plenty of lubrication. Looks like I was ahead of toyota on this one, putting a boot over the intermediate steering shaft, and covering the shaft with lots of grease too.

@theSoster 7 лет назад

Hopefully you'll see this. I'm in the middle of doing this job and I'm having an issue where I can't remove the shaft. The bolts are out but it appears the telescoping mechanism is jammed and I cannot remove the U-joint from the steering wheel side. Did you run into this problem at all and if so, any idea how to unjam it?

@sstocker31 7 лет назад

No I never had that problem, but I suggest to use a flatblade screwdriver and push it into the split where the bolt goes through and try to relieve the clamping pressure on the joint. There is a point in the video where I used a chisel on the lower joint to do the same thing. lots of lube is your friend as well.....good luck

@theSoster 7 лет назад

I ended up hammering the lower joint off (as you do in the video). It took a very long time but it eventually came off. Top part slipped out easily after that. Once I took the link out, it was clear the sliding mechanism was completely seized up. I pounded on it to try to get it to move, but its stuck fully open. Anyway, thanks a ton for the video. It was incredibly helpful.

@sstocker31 7 лет назад

Glad you got it done....thanks for the pop, the shops charge way too much for a simple job like this

@loganpiper3371 6 лет назад

I've had the same problem each time I've done this job (3 times). I needed to lower the sub frame and remove the steering rack bolts to shift the steering rack forwards to get enough room to slide the old shaft off and new one on!

@georgelegge3393 6 лет назад

I just commented above. If you run into this problem, as I did, just cut the shaft in 2. The telescoping seizes and makes it impossible to remove the shaft.

@stephenmcgraw3610 2 года назад

Did you find out if you can buy just the universal joint I have to do mine to replace the intermediate steering shaft

@sstocker31 2 года назад

No, I never found a replacement u-joint...but I didn't put a whole lot of time and effort into it after the job was done. The car is long gone now :)

@aoman100 6 лет назад

Is there an easy way to install the boot at the very end? Having troubles trying to seal it but it pops back out, any tips help thanks

@sstocker31 6 лет назад

aoman100 Slip the top part of th seal in and then work the passenger side of the seal in. Once thats done use a flat blade screwdriver to work the drivers side and the bottom of the seal in place. If you have someone in the car helping it mahes it much easier.

@CARBIDE76 5 лет назад

Put a little bit of grease, maybe silicone, around the boot.

@lethaparker1854 3 года назад

I have a 2008 Chevy Impala and my steering knuckle broke . I noticed u call it a shaft. Is that another name for it?

@sstocker31 3 года назад

Your mechanic is probably referring to the steering u-joint when he says "knuckle". So my guess is he's likely referring to the same general part.

@sstocker31 9 лет назад

It's still a factory only part $160 Canadian....I had mine prior to starting the job

@fuggetabodit 8 лет назад

+sstocker31 It's not a dealer only part. I work in BC and can get them from all of my sources, Lordco, Worldpac, Napa, Key2, for less than 160.

@sstocker31 8 лет назад

+fuggetabodit Well, at the time I put this in, it was a dealer only part here in Edmonton. I tried to get it at several different parts peddlers, but no Joy. There are so many troubles with this part the aftermarket has probably taken and run with it.

@jjforsyth3 5 лет назад

Where did you buy the new bolts? I’m in the USA and cannot find any source online for those bolts. Do you have a part number? Thanks

@sstocker31 5 лет назад

The new bolts came with the part...I guess that's why we pay more. Just re-use the old bolts , they're just clamping the part on, so excessive torque isn't required. If you don't have bolts go to the car recycling yard

@Ndesantis212 3 года назад

My 09 has the angle sensor on the steering column where the u-joint on the shaft attaches to which I don’t see on your car. I couldn’t get the shaft off without prying against that sensor and possibly breaking it, and the clutch pedal makes space even more tight. Anyone have any tips?

@sstocker31 3 года назад

There was no sensor on mine, so I don't have any tips for you...sorry

@larenrob1 9 лет назад

How did you get the new shaft through the firewall? Did you go through the inside of the car (below the steering)?

@sstocker31 9 лет назад

+Lauren Rob Yes start watching at about 9:55

@wrowe101 5 лет назад

Anybody know the torque specs? 05 Saturn ion can't find em anywhere

@TheGmanway 8 лет назад

I should've watched this before I mounted new part i didn't line splines up so my steering wheel is a lil off

@hnkfsh81 8 лет назад

Thanks for the video. What size were the two bolts?

@sstocker31 8 лет назад

not really sure, I can't remember.... maybe 13mm màybe someone else will comment

@mahmudabdollahi 9 лет назад

thanks .

@solitaire5142 8 лет назад

Great video and thanks but what a piece of shit car this is. This kind of failure never happen before in my 40 years of car ownership?

@karenbrunette5362 5 лет назад

I had someone put a used steering shaft on my 06 cobalt and steering wheel is off centered now a month later I bought a brand new 1 but because the first guy did the shaft and didn't line up steering wheel or mark anything now my steering wheel is off center again with the new part on .please tell me how to correct this

@sstocker31 5 лет назад

It should be a easy fix. drive the car into the garage or spot where it's going to be worked on, and ensure the car is driving straight ahead when you stop. Doing this lets you know the wheels and the steering gear are centered. Mark the lower end of the shaft and now you know half of it is right. When you replace the shaft with the new one, adjust the steering wheel so it's straight before slipping the two splined shafts together. That should fix it up for you....best of luck!

@karenbrunette5362 5 лет назад

@@sstocker31 I've already put the new part on but cus the first guy didn't do it the right way I had to buy a new steering shaft but steering wheel is still crooked so need to know how to fix it .so if I do it your way driving it straight and bottom is mark d and straight then I loosen from the top part of shaft

@sstocker31 5 лет назад

All you should have to do is make sure you drive in straight and park. Next separate the connection inside the car, straighten the steering wheel and then reconnect the shaft to the steering box. Hope that makes sense to you :)

@karenbrunette5362 5 лет назад

@@sstocker31 yes it makes sense but I'm concerned about turning the steering wheel it has a air bag and it says to to turn

@sstocker31 5 лет назад

Your last comment seems to have cut short, but if you disconnect the joint I'm working on at about the three minute mark in the video, turn your steering wheel so it's straight, and then reconnect the joint, you should be good......no need to worry about airbags as you won't be disturbing anything to do with those. Let me know if I can help further....

@elconejo505 9 лет назад

Did it fix the knocking noise ??

@sstocker31 9 лет назад

elconejo505 Yes it sure did....

@fuggetabodit 8 лет назад

I've never taken the wheel off or even lifted the car to do this. Just reach down behind the engine and take out the bolt,

@steelhanded11 6 лет назад

I'm going to attempt to do mine today and was wondering what size the socket was??

@KevinColumbus 5 лет назад

Half inch

@grabbymcpoosey614 Год назад

Not a half inch. It was metric. Chevy has been using metric fasteners for years.

@TheGmanway 8 лет назад

I got my parts at partsgeek.com 05 saturn ion new part is way better not just bc it's it's just beefier in the right places

@johnnyversaci7091 4 года назад

GM is such junk

@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 3 года назад

I own mostly older GM vehicles, and they have been good to me.

@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 3 года назад

Did you take very good care of your car or was it abused ? Also are you the original owner ? or are you the the second owner ? or above ?

@johnnyversaci7091 3 года назад

@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 they're known for bad brake lines and steering issues but my parents brand new 99 Yukon was nickel and dime-ing them by 04 and my mom drove it like a grandma, Brothers 08 Malibu had the trans rebuilt at like 40k according to the Carfax, same Malibu had the steering shaft lock up on him, parasitic draw issue, and mysterious water leaks into the cabin. Sisters friend cobalt she bought at 30k and drives conservatively steering shaft almost snapped at 100k, also a lot of cobalts had bad electric steering which sounds dangerous. Other brothers lesabre and S10 brake line rotted out almost caused an accident in the LeSabre at least. Friends brand new Chevy Trax the turbo blew up after 2-3 years old. Only decent Chevy anyone I know had was my 05 Malibu Maxx even tho it fell apart after 100k. Other than that I don't really hear anyone say they love their GM unless it's like 40-50 years old. Seems like if it's not safety issues, it's weird electrical problems or weird problems like impossible to find water leak. I was suggesting my sister to buy a cobalt since they are cheap after a tree fell on her focus, but she insisted on a 06 Corolla and I'm glad she did 115k-140k all Ive had to do was an intake gasket and resonator pipe Which isn't bad for owning a car for about 4 years

@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 3 года назад

@@johnnyversaci7091 : Sounds like all them cars have been abused, and not taken care of. I have alot of GM vehicles, and I look after them well, and they have been good to me, even today. Were any of those vehicles pre-owned when they were purchased ? If any of them were pre-owned, it's likely the car's previous owners abused it, before selling it off, therefore needing repairs happened and so on.

@johnnyversaci7091 3 года назад

@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 "brand new Yukon driven like a grandma, nickel and dime-ing after 5 years from brand new" "brand new Chevy Trax blown turbo after 2-3 years" which was driven by mom and school teacher. Besides the only used one I know for a fact was beaten on was the 05 Malibu Maxx which was actually the only one that didn't have a bunch of problems🤷 when that many cars brake lines fail after 10 years it's a perfect example of manufacturer building crap that will fail right outside warranty and a big safety issue no less