Consequences of TORI Removal 

I had 2 very large mandibular tori's removed by a oral surgeon yesterday under sedation which I would recommend. The skin on my pallet floor was peeled back to remove them both .My tongue now has room to swallow correctly. I have been compensating for years to talk like I didn't have two large marbles under my tongue. I am so grateful to have it out of my mouth. There are no nerves in the bone so it was just the skin that was sore . Sutures are tied in front of my teeth not to aeriated by my tongue. Today pain is not that bad and am not taking anything for pain either. I paid 3K out of pocket to have it done and it was well worth it . I hope this helps someone who needs this taken care of

I had my very large, lower mandibular tori (external gum line on both sides) removed last Friday. I never had any significant pain (IV sedation used during the procedure), but stopped taking the pain meds Saturday (pm). I did continue to take Ibuprofen and Motrin at the direction of my doctor, to help with any inflammation before my stitches are removed this Friday. If I had known it would have been this uneventful, I would have done it years ago.

This is such a great video, I had to come back and watch it again. Thank you!

I wish there more doctors with the attitude you have. Its obvious you're a good doctor! This was very informative.

Awesome presentation. I have Tori and your approach was fresh, humanized and honest. Keep up the good work. Appreciate all you do.

Thanks! Anticipating buccal exostosis removal so educating myself. Your videos are very helpful.

Great video, thank you!

Glad I found your video. I’m 66 and only a few months ago I discovered a real pointy tori above the upper very back tooth left side . I went to my dentist for a check up and cleaning told him and he told me what it was. But it had not broken through the tissue yet . It has now and I will make an appointment to see what can be done . It’s like a very pointy cone. Pointy enough to break through tissue. Anyway thanks for your efforts in bringing us the information. Liked and subscribed

THANK YOU, DOCTOR! Getting my upper tori removed very soon. It would save me $1,200 to not be put under. I think you answered that question when you talked about the pain so bluntly! ❤

I have a tori. I just went to the doctor and found out what it is today, because it grew larger. I didn’t pay much attention to it before it grew. Thanks for the info. In other news, I used to get styes like that occasionally. Turns out I’m allergic to almonds. Didn’t know until I was in my late 40s.

This was a very informative video. I had a lingual tori removal last week. I had work done on both sides of my mouth towards the front & also a nip in the skin under my tongue as the doctor said I had a tongue tie. The operation took just over an hour. When the anaesthetic started to wear off, my mouth & bottom teeth were throbbing. I was given some meds to take for five days. Tomorrow is my last day. I honestly don't think I can cope without them. I have left a message at the hospital & someone should get back to me. I have seen beautiful examples of a surgeons work before & after tori removal. It makes such a difference. I know there's no gain without pain so I am looking forward to when mine has healed ,& I appreciate what a tricky operation this must be.

I like your pain control meds of iubuprofen alternating with Tylenol. I had a doctor recommended it for fever reduction too. ❤

I am so glad you posted this because I have a torus in the roof of my mouth that I need removed. Thank you for sharing.

Great 👍🏻 video thank you for sharing

Mine was a result of radiation after a bout w cancer! It's big is painful it's in the lower mandibular area and will require a graft. It will be ground down to the maro. But I trust my surgeon!

Thanks for the info on the pain cocktail. I am planning on Tori surgery in September.

I have these. One of them continues to grow. It'll get a sharp point, hurt like hell, then smooth over.

LOVE your video. You are so sweet. May I ask when do you know to remove the Tori? mine is on the bottom, not all that bad.

I'm getting tori removed tomorrow, 3.4.24 by an Oral Surgeon. My biggest concern is post operative pain and how long it will last. I also hope they use propofol and not nitrous oxide. I hate nitrous oxide and the way it makes me feel.

Can you please explain WHY traditional tori removal would be better than laser tori removal?

Hello Dr., I had my exocytosis removed with a small cyst. This was five days ago and the stitches feel like they’re starting to come out already. The area already feels healed. Almost. How long do they normally have to stay in? This dental surgeon is so busy that I couldn’t get a repeat appointment for another couple weeks and I feel like they’re going to come out. Any advice.

I had a naturally very sharp bony growth come out horizontally from the inside of my jaw and poke into my tongue until it broke through the gums. My local dentist snapped off the point with a pair of pincers then filed it down. Now I have a small open circle of bone with no gum over it and I'm hoping it scars over quickly

With a litany of health problems including kidney failure what can you do for pain relief if I have this surgery😖

I had my tori on the bottom removed 9yers ago and the pain was extreme!!

Hi! I am glad I came across your video. I am considering tori removal in my lower jaw. My concern is recovery... how long is it, and what special considerations should I have to make the best out of this process.

I had a maxillary tori removal for a good upper denture fit. I have a wonderful fit. However it had to be the most painful procedure ever. But ultimately it’s worth it. Your dentist should be aware of the pain and be willing to provide medication!!!! Oh hell no we’re not “druggies”!!!!

My husband had a large tori removed on the bottom and it caused a ulsur from the pointed bone poking out. He had the tori removed and a week layer he felt a razor sharp bone coming through and they did a second surgery. Now a week later he has the same thing. He cant hardly eat or talk because of this. Why is this happening and he still has the ulser? Can you help with anything here?

Great video! My dad is 93 years old should he have upper tori surgery at his age?

Hi- I had a dentist pull my wisdom tooth when it should have been surgically removed. It damaged my sinus severely. I ended up hospitalized with several surgeries. This was 34 years ago. Needless to say, the trauma caused me not to seek proper dental care thereafter. I am paying dearly for this trauma now that I am older. I have a massive tori in the roof of my mouth that is staring to restrict my speech, nutrition and sometimes airway when it is inflamed from an injury. Where are you. Can you please fix me?😢😢😢

hey I have a question is the torus palatinus completely removed or is it removed enough to make it look as if it was removed completely ?

How dumb am I for not wanting to take a medrol dose pack or antibiotics after a tori surgery? Both medications totally wreck me when i take them. I’m young and in near darn perfect health. Is the antibacterial mouth rinse they give you not enough to prevent infection?

I’m 32 and I’m so nervous! I have the extra bone growth on the outside of both top sides of gums & a small one on the roof of my mouth. Some days I don’t notice them but other days it can hurt just brushing my teeth. Ugh these things suck so bad

In regards to the Tylenol/Advil pain treatment, I can attest that it does work. Slightly off topic, but I had a screw placed in my shoulder socket after I broke my socket and dislocated the shoulder in the process. My surgeon also prescribed the Tylenol/Advil combo and I thought he was nuts. It worked. First time I was virtually pain free since it broke. Slight pain, but very tolerable. Having my second tori removal surgery on Monday. First time was not bad at all.

I recently had upper tori removal. Also 9 teeth removed, so I can get dentures. It's been exactly 7 days since. I've been experiencing a lot of pain. I also took a picture of the roof of my mouth and it's bumpy and white. Is it infected? If you have email I can send you a picture

I would like to know much more about it because I have two bones under my tongue and it bothers me sometimes so you saying it's bad for me to get it there or they don't put you to sleep

Hi Dr. I know this is an old video but im desperate for answers. I had tori removal almost two weeks ago (tomorrow makes two). One side of my mouth is completely fine and the other side is horrible. Gums are grown up over my teeth, they are bright red, the pallet under my tongue on that side is puffy and the pain is unbearable. I went for my one week check up 3 days ago and my dr said I looked normal but I didn't think the pain should be this bad this far out. Not sure if my age has anything to do with healing (31) but I finished my antibiotics and I'm taking pain meds constantly (aleve) through the day with no relief. Thank you

I had my first Tori surgery under sedation because I am needing dentures. When I went to get dentures I was told it was not done correctly and I've had three more Tori surgery on gums with just the use of Novocaine. How common is this? This is the second day of one of those surgeries and there is quite a lot of pain.

I'd love to see the finger sized tori added to the video...fascinating

I have under my tongue and on the outer parts of my upper gums. I am curious- I was told my dr. doesn't use laser. I did see a guy have his taken home.... I am scared not to have laser.. I but is that normal?

I recently had a consultation with a dentist because as recent as early June of 2022, I had complete tooth extraction. My experience was horrible! However, the new the dentist said I have to have surgery for tori. Mine are not huge. And, I'm at the point that I'm willing to forgo the bottom dentures because I'm so fearful of this! My insurance will not pay for IV sedation so I have to be wide awake! Nope I can live without bottom teeth!

I had it was hard as a bone I had surgery for it to be removed but it's been a year and it's back again what should I do any suggestions it's really painful this time but still hard

I wish there were dentists that showed off portfolios of their work.

I’ve had major Tori on the outside of my upper outer jaw line it’s gotten so bad I’m worried that it will push through my gums and towards the rear where my jaw pivots I feel like it’s just a matter of time it will make my jaw not able to close unfortunately, even with two levels of insurance, they still won’t cover it and consider it to be cosmetic. Got a love our medical system.

So you say it's bad for them to remove Bones from under my tongue but my mouth hurts sometimes and and it do not stop until I rub them with my tongue but the bone hurt so if it's that bad

I’ve had a large one on the roof of my mouth my entire life. Over the years it has become very large and I’ve developed a large mandibular as well. It’s nearly impossible to comfortably rest my tongue anymore. Only way for me to stop fidgeting my mouth is if I suck my tongue in place and tense certain muscles but I am afraid that will cause problems. I’ve been noticing more and more recently that I’m always biting/scraping my tongue and even inside of my cheeks. I’m also having trouble breathing through my nose freely at night without nasal strips. Could these things be connected to my Tori?

I have a large midline tori that gets very sore from time to time. It does get in the way of dental xrays and I injure it on hard foods. How common are the upper palate large tori? I also had 2 sets of wisdom teeth and had one set removed. I'm strange. 😆 🤣 😂

What a professional attitude. Wish more medical professionals would foster an attitude of care and understanding likely pretty hard when they are over worked to the bone!

What if it's in the top pallet of the mouth? How does that surgery go?

I just had my Tori removed a week ago and I'm healing nicely, the first Oral surgeon didn't want to sedate me, and I was terrified the second surgeon was a 4th year and because my Tori was so large he refused to do the surgery without sedation I had all my teeth removed and I needed it removed in order to get dentures and you are right I didn't need a lot of pain meds I was also fitted for a shield to wear while was healing I have to wait 2 months before I can get fitted for my dentures,

I just discovered a long strip of this on the left side of my mouth cutting thru my gums like baby teeth & cutting my tongue and Im thinking thats why my rear tooth recently came out in my mouth when I woke up & after months of being loose I have low income but I am miserable and crying typing cause the pain is excruciating and I was wondering if there is anyone in Dallas Texas who can help me with this and have payment plans

I got a bump idk. I used to grunt my teeth mouth problems when I was little. Over time a little bump formed in my roof of mouth. It hurts from time to time. I was nine somehow a pencil lead broke off in it. Never had surgery

I don't get it how does the palate heal again after the surgery ? I'm 14 and is there any risks

Hi! I had my torus palatine removed and it’s been 2 weeks after my surgery and there’s one side that I lost some skin and it’s looking the bone exposed… Will it stays like that forever? 😥 Please I need some answers as it’s not much about this issue on the internet :(

I have 2 large bones under my tongue. I am wanting to see what I will need to do because I am getting to where with my age I am going to rather just do dentures but I am going to need to get rid of these how expensive is this

Thanks for mentioning how opioids shouldn’t be the first pain treatment offered. It is refreshing, and so needed.

I had throat cancer 14 years ago (non smoker). HPV. I no longer eat or speak but life is good. Tori have been growing on the bottom of my mouth for a few years but lately getting worse. Two Oral Surgeons have told me because of my radiation it may not heal and I may need Jaw reconstruction. A challenge in 2024 for sure if I decide to take this on. :). Not sure...

Dr, my Tori don’t bother me , and am in no pain, but when I open my mouth you can see it, it’s getting bigger, it’s about four one is bigger than the other three , am really scared to do this operation, so question , can it be surgically be removed by laser??? …..and do you put your people to sleep to do it??? Cause I believe if I got to do it they will have to knock me out am 63 years young…..can I get an answer from you???

Please where is your dental hospital

I thought i had a tori ( between. Cheek and jawnone) turns lut i actually have a bone ABCESS. The bump didnt botjrr me, but the pain does.

I have little and very smal bump in hard plate no pain no irratation please guide me ❤😊

Who recommends you a regular dentist first?

I have enormous tori on the outside, too and bottom, on the left side of my face. They are so big that they are changing the shape of my face. I also have PyoDerma Gangrenosum, so the fear of ulceration of gives me chronic anxiety 🥺

Mine have broken through the tissue twice. It has splintered off 2 times too. But soooo painful! My dentist said it’s unusual for it to break through the tissue. Mine was the right lingual side too.

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New subscriber here. Sent a message to your office regarding removal of my massive lower tori. Hope you have time to reference it. Also, do you tele consult? You have terrific presentation skills. Many thanks

Hello and thank you for your video. Today, I had my consult with my oral surgeon at the Hospital. I have a very large tori on my left lower jaw, medium size tori on my right lower jaw plus two mandibular tori under my tongue that will be removed. In addition to having two teeth removed due to being compacted on my upper jar. I’m in quite a lot of pain when my tori and teeth are inflamed and it’s been untreated up until now. As I didn’t even know my tori was abnormal lol. The surgeon also informed me that he will not be removing the other tori I have at the top of my palate unless it gets bigger. I have other complex health issues that will impact my recovery. What typically would my recovery look like and any suggestions to make the recovery process easier to handle? Thank you for all your work and your kind approach to managing your patients.

I have this small painless gum boil. I don't know if it's tori😩. It doesn't hurt💁.

I have these bones under my tongue. So does my mom. They don’t bother me at all, unless I burn the top tissue with hot pizza or something…It’s like burning the roof of my mouth. No big deal. If the bones don’t hurt, leave them alone. That surgery sounds barbaric!

I have a good sized one spanning the entire length of my upper palate. Complicating things , I have a very very small mouth. Lupus and other auto immune disease has affected my jaw and ability to open wide. It’s so bad with the tori just getting dental X-rays is horribly difficult. The other issue is that I’ve had many surgeries, and because of my tori, intubation is beyond difficult and has to be done fiber optically. I do wonder if life would be easier without it. Years ago, it got sore and two different times a very thin piece of bone much like a popcorn hull came out. It then healed and I haven’t had any further issues with it opening. I wish I knew what to do. My doctors act like they’ve never seen anything like it. And from what I understand it’s not that uncommon.

Can you have a tori removal if the patient is over 65 with a heart condition?

How much? Out of pocket? I have one in the upper outer jaw.

I had tori surgery and 16 teeth pulled all in one day and I have not been able to wear my bottom dentures since the surgery. My top teeth are fine but where the tori was removed on the bottom 4 weeks ago I have been in miserable since. Nothing has healed in my mouth the bottom gums look like a mangled mess. She is going back in a couple days to put tissue around the gum s. I’m sick of this.

Ronde Barber became a dentist. 😉

Thank you doctor for this video. I am about to schedule for removal of the Tori Mandibular. As a nervous mother of a breastfeeding infant, I want to be able to speak and breath properly for my child's sake. If it happens that they grow back after removal, how many more surgeries are advised to do. Like I know for things like C-section, there is a maximum number advised. So wondering if there is also a maximum number for Tori removal Thanks for your response in advance.

Why does this happen? Are you seeing more of this as time goes on?

I need help with mine I’m also scared to have it done 😢

I have two areas 1) dysplasia site which is mild in my upper palate 2) the other site has moderate dysplasia 3) I have a tori which doesn't give me a problem. I'm thinking since I'm 75 yrs old; I will decide not to have the tori surgery. However, I'm thinking I need to have the two dysplasia sites removed. I'm waiting to hear from the dentist who will do the surgery. Wish me the best with my surgery. I liked the comment you said; that doctors aren't god. 01/12/23.

Can we claim insurance if we did it in a hospital ?

My girl actually saw a bump on the top of my mouth and since then I went crazy because it is there. I am scared of dentists because of their unprofesionality where i live. The dentists that I was in when I was a kid wanted to put braces on me because my teeth will grow badly and it was just an excuse so they can earn cash on me. I will go to see a dentist soon to check my teeth (that are suprisingly in good shape) and take this out.

I have been referred to have two moderate lower and a large central upper tori removed as well as what is left of remaining teeth, as it is being done by my local public hospital they have recommended removing all 4 unerupted wisdom teeth at same time, all under general anaesthetic in preparation for dentures. And follow up several months later after healing for traditional dentures (no immediate), there will be a lower cost due to low income but no option for implants. Very anxious about the pain mgmt, Drs here in NZ are much more cautious about prescribing re drug seeking, and have uncommon acetaminophen (we call it paracetamol) allergy. Had only 6 out recently and didn't cope well, I'm no stranger to pain with UC & now ileostomy but this worries me more!

Yikes!!! I can SEE my future and tori surgery is in it... My friend, an Oral Surgeon, referred to tori surgery as "mouth murder"... Mine are getting bad and a dentist friend as well as the aforementioned Oral Surgeon say they will be "kissing tori" soon...It scares me ~ they are so sensitive and so painful when foods connect with them...Any suggestions??

Please where is your hospital

I am on day 2 of BIG lower Tori 4mm from touching and just a small cleanup of one side the jaw bone that sticks in a bit on both sides below the Tori that was bigger then the one side. Day one and now half way through day 2. Going well ".75 to 1" on a 10 scale of pain. The stitch knots are the most annoying thing. I am 59. Doing the Advil/Tylenol 4 hour flip and set my alarm at night to keep on schedule , so I don't have to take the opiates. I have no problem with opiates as I had to use them with kidney stones, you just NEVER take more then proscribed time to take. If I remember every 4 hours, NEVER deviated from that. NEVER. The only problem I have my stitches that are looped over my teeth between the crowns vs videos I saw around the teeth. Lost 1 in the back day 1 and day 2 one in the front 1 more back day 2. Dr said he is ok with that.

What causes these?

I am scheduled to have tori removed from my lower jaw. They are pretty large, the oral surgeon explained to me how he was going to do it, he said he will peel my gums back then grind them down. I read that there is a laser technique. Is that safer or should I go through this procedure with this oral surgeon?

If I'm asking for pain meds, I desperately need them. I live with head to toe arthritis & a bad back that hurts EVERY day & I take otc meds ( the Ibuprofen/tylenol mix) which is not all that effective. If I have a painful procedure, pain meds are needed. To give nothing & suggest otc meds that are taken daily is cruel.

My Tori, both left and right are not huge. My dentist wants my Tori removed because he said bottom dentures won't fit properly. I'm not in the mind space for this procedure and I just don't want anymore trauma in my mouth. Having all my teeth removed was horrendous for me that happened one year ago. I'd rather just go without bottom dentures at this point. My insurance will not pay for IV sedation..I have terrible anxiety about this.. I just don't want this.

On Tuesday December 7 I had three huge upper molars pulled out and 1 tooth that had broken off. Plus 3 implants to hold a denture...and a huge tori in the roof of my mouth. I was given hydrocodone to take and ibuprofen. IT AINT HELPING ME. I WANT TO PUT MY HEAD UNDER A TRUCK.

I wish I could find a dr like you! I hate going to Dr's that think their word is God. They won't hear anything I am saying. But I have to say you not making me feel any better about the pain on the surgery. Lol . I know it's gonna hurt I have to get four removed on bottom . My question is should I wait or go ahead with the teeth removed for denture a month later?

Man, doc! As perfect as your teeth look, I'm guessing that it was your high standard of care for your own teeth that led you to be a dentist as opposed to your perfect teeth resulting from the fact that you became a dentist. Great advertising for a dentist. It'd take the blinding white light of the Good Lord, Himself, to get my yellow teeth that white. I'm also thinking about what you said about getting it all done at one time so that you don't have to keep coming back. However, I have so many and such extensive exostoses in my mouth that it looks like the top of a Klingon's head. If I had all those removed at once, I'd probably bleed to death or die from the post op pain. Anyway, happy holidays and blessings to you and yours!

Where are your glasses from?

Im immune to lidocaine and novocaine..i have ehlers danlos .

Bruh, you must have been trained by either C Ray Bennet or Robin Daniels.

I had to have the surgery because the two had grown to within 1/8 inch, and they were going to eventually meet. Three days later, it looks like HELL in my mouth.

Even after mentally preparing myself, my experience has unfortunately been worse than I expected. I'd say I have an at least average or slightly above average pain tolerance, and this has been worse for me than 2 other general anesthesia surgeries I've had in the past. My surgery was 5 days ago (now post-op day 4) and I had 2 large mandibular tori (each side under the tongue) as well as multiple large ones removed in each outer quadrant of my gums (exostosis). So in all, there were 6 areas they worked on with large amounts of bone removed at each area. I needed be under general anesthesia where they used a nasal tube to intubate me. Aside from a sore throat and a ton of pain, swelling, and tenderness at the surgery sites (my entire face is swollen up), my tongue seems to have gotten injured/scraped up in the process with swelling, teeth marks indented into the sides, and a diminished sense of taste. There's also a very sharp and hard white protrusion stabbing at the base of my tongue on one side, which I assume is a remnant of a bone fragment. It feels like a razor blade cutting into and scraping the base/side of my tongue, it's causing immense pain unrelieved by tylenol/Advil, and it's making it impossible for me to progress past a liquid diet as it's constantly stabbing me, especially when swallowing or trying to speak/eat. I'm thinking it's a piece that will probably need to be removed or smoothed down. Called the MD about this yesterday but since it's the weekend I did not receive a response. The tissue in my mouth is so tender and the tightness in my jaw makes it extremely difficult to open enough just to eat. The tightness extends past my cheeks and goes all the way up to my temples. I'm still on a liquid diet as I'm unable to advance and getting enough calories and nutrition is extremely challenging-- been feeling really lethargic and weak. I can talk with difficulty, and can't really smile or laugh yet. It's been challenging trying to keep my mouth clean. I often rinse with warm salt water, and try to gently brush areas I can reach (which isn't much as I can barely open wide), but everywhere you look there's just a ton of white gum tissue and sutures. This recovery has been extremely grueling and I'm really praying that things start to feel better soon. Hoping anyone who also had a difficult/painful recovery can share their updates to give me some inspiration on getting through this.

Getting this surgery done today

I don't plan to have my tori removed. But I had a stye for almost a year, put a slice of potato on it and it was gone in a day.

Where your office located?

Oh yes if “they” tell you , every 6 hours, believe me 4-5 hours don’t wait for the pain to start!!!!

I wish I could afford to remove this giant thing growing on my jaw 😞