Countless Users Create "Secret Proship" Accounts To Avoid Harassment From "Friends" 

Thats good that you dont get it. It meens you are still sane :)

Twitter freaks being twitter freaks and everyone else enabling them by ignoring it instead of mocking them relentlessly.

Because people took it too far so it whipped around to being bad I guess

Mental illness is real

probably from the same people who will try to ruin other people's relationships just because they want those people to marry someone else due to characters they play and THEIR ships.

Those same teenagers are dumb enough to put their info in their bios.

lets not forget about their capabilities. what if they could ask 4chan to look for anyone

to paraphrase a famous tweet, "the fact that I am [at the whim of] of a 14 year old's opinion at any time of day on the internet is a human rights violation"

@@ROBLOXGamingDavid 4chan is more likely to go after people who identify themselves and ask them to do something.

@@ROBLOXGamingDavidand it will get deadly

If I found out any of my friends has a problem with proshipping, I will personally not be their friend anymore.

Who needs enemies?

Honestly you’ll probably get along better with your enemies. Like I guarantee if you become friendly towards the mean girls or whatever stereotypical popular group exists they will be nicer to you and probably not have some life long mission to destroy you. Unless a mean girl becomes a karen most of them mature and mellow out.

​@@anthonynguyen1289 The mean and popular girls will still bully and humiliate you even if you are nice to them. Better to just stay away and find people with similar interests.

living hell lmao. That what class clown looks like. The typical not funny in the class whenever he done anything stupid.

+ If someone wants to hurt you, you should cut them out of your life.

Thanks for the good advice, mom.👍

Yeah. You should cut ties with them if they have a problem with your hobbies.

Sometimes mom advice is best advice.

If they want to hurt me over something like this, then I’ll show them what real pain is as I dance over them after breaking both their arms.

Question: Honest question also, its something I ask friends who bring it up. If they did exist, would you date one? A girl with cat ears, a cat tail, and light characteristics common with neko girls. Otherwise, a regular person.

@@jasminecole8596 Even if they did exist, lets face it, humanity treats those who are different that they don't know like garbage. So if monster girls like "Neko's" existed, their would be a lound group of people who would want Segregation to be brought back. Also they would label anyone who dates a monster girl a damn degenerate and zoophile just for doing it, and would attempt to have that person put in prison or deathrow. I can really see this happening, also to anwser your question, I don't think I would date them unless their powerful in somekind of way.

i've always wondered what people like this think of stuff like vore or macrophilia. Do they think people into that are cannibals and potential genocides?

I'd be first in line to get a set of dragon claws. The amount of cliff faces I could scale as a dragon bitch. World needs more monster girls and I'd be one of the willing volunteers to have my limbs sawed the fuck off~

@@jasminecole8596 I'd say the catgirl part probably doesn't make a difference. if they were a "regular" person then no, if they were a kind decent person then yes, them being a catgirl would just be a bonus.

And it happens on political reasons and grounds to

The line between fiction and reality only varies depending on their position and whether if they are of sound mind. The more they refuse and get pressed on, they become turtle... But for a person like me... at least... I do know... (but it is very irritating to see it like this)

Chris Chan

Shouldn't that be the same for western cartoons as well?

These people should be introduced to Jack Thompson I think they would get along really well since they have the same opinion about fictional content

​@@Saltedroastedcaramelno they hate Japan cuz if they said the same thing about Western cartoons they would cancel Powerpuff Girls Dexter's Laboratory pretty much every show from the 90s and early 2000s

Yeah but the sad part even most anime related communities are siding with the antis as well especially the DBZ Larpers

@@TheBeastDen365 Can't say about Dexter, but the 2016 PPG got rid of Miss Bellum and Sedusa, and made miss Keane flat but had Blossom and Bubbles twerk

"I used the stones to destroy the stones" -Thanos

FINALLY. Someone said it. I feel so gaslighted and hurt by Anti’s, THEYRE the bad ones, for making us feel exploited?? Right. Not the other way around, and kona nl no amount of gaslighting is gonna convicw me itherwise. If they’re right, I’d be ASTONISHED.

Actually crazy since I’ve been groomed by antis 😭🙏

It will be used to put them on that list sadly. Especially when political motive is used. Nothing is safe nor sacred cause the left will come after you regardless

Another better example is rape fantasy. Women who indulge in fantasies about getting raped don't want to get raped in real life. In roleplays they call it Consensual Non-consent.

⁠@@dragongirl2004and furthermore, women write/draw non-con fantasies as well for those women that are into that fantasy which again, is a conversation Twitter ain’t ready for.

@@vtuber_slayer I like loli and I'm both not attracted to nor would I ever want to harm a kid. I'm a CSA victim myself.

​@@vtuber_slayerI'm a shotacon and yet am an in a relationship with a grown woman and have only ever exclusively dated women my age. Explain that.

And it's not limited to these people. Just look at the "your likes are public" segment of any of Rev's videos.

That reminds me. I remember someone having a "Proship/profic dni" in their bio. They were making rant comments on their content calling people the typical "problematic this that" and watering down serious terms like pdfilia/grooming. Behind the scenes, they were caught simping for a villian that was problematic and their friend group left them because "liking villians = supporting their crimes" apparently? It's so weird antis think they have any moral high ground to bash anyone for their fictional taste. When they are the same ones liking horror, villians, furries and secretly loli/shota. Or they are guilty of doing something even worse than the people they are going after 🤦

Even funnier is when the "proship dni" people get outed as groomers and predators themselves.

​@@vtuber_slayer Perhaps they should stop acting like monoliths then..?

@@vtuber_slayerNo, you are the ones projecting here.

Yeah, when I see videos like that, I can't help but laugh. Nothing against the artist but bringing in ethics and morality to characters that will never age and have their story stop at a certain point is crazy to me. Seriously what happened because I'm young enough to remember when no one cared now you can't enjoy anything fictional without prior acting like you'd do it in reality.

@@mysteryinkii6160 I don't know. And I hate it. What's worse is that this is so gas lighting.

@@Saltedroastedcaramel Exactly. Make people feel bad about things that aren't bad and tell them you can help "fix" them. It's so weird, and the things they say feel like things you'd hear from someone who's trying to indoctrinate you through making you feel like you're not human. It's disgusting, and I hate how people believe that lines and colors on paper are above actual people. Sorry if I rambled, though. I've started to get pretty heated about this topic because of how terrible some antis will act towards others. 😅

What do you mean by ethics of aging up characters? When you age them up it is not sexualization of a minor if you do lewd content. Usually what happens is "I wonder what this person would look like as an adult since the show never showed it" then the lewding comes after. Granted there is a blurry line such as those age 15 to 20 as there is not much physical change one could do other than if it is a woman give her bigger tits, with men it is harder to age up as we do age like fine wine as i am 26 and i still look like what i did 10 years ago when i was 16 This is not even getting into genetics, culture and other stuff that plays a apart in how a older person would look as they could be the same look as their younger self. Pretty much i agree arguing about it is pointless bullshit

@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Basically that

True. Be yourself :)

​​@@Mightyscandareikr? Including buying merch since some if not most of us otakus have to deal with nosey questions from cashiers like asking are you getting this for your kids as some of us adult otakus have to deal with the bs

@@eaglelord9898 i feel you xD

​@@vtuber_slayer Your advise are very tempting but you have to remember that people do becomes "Unhinged" and those people doesn't deserve to be your friend. And let's not pretend that Kind People get manipulated by these people doesn't exist.

@@vtuber_slayer In other comments you've called anyone who disagrees with you hateful things like transphobe and worthy of being hurt over fictional characters, are you just trying to cause drama?

Political reasons that’s why

Virtue signaling.

They thought those thing represent them thats why. Lewding art mean lewding real life person to them. Art represent their so called "sExuaLiTy". Again chronically mentally illed in internet just the dumb uneducated people.

normally people need to grow to interact with people with common sense. How you know to grow plant etc. But this generation of people being on the internet and being inflate by whiny weak people is kinda of mess up situation. If you dont like something you just ignore and move on with your life. Then again you have those weirdos that force people into it.

They treat it like it's the most evil thing imaginable, because they've never had to deal with any real problems in life.

These are the same people who are okay with showing copius amounts of gore and mutilation in fiction.

@@humrH2360 yeah pretty much. First world problems at its finest.

This.

Same

I don't :(

This is the only thing that makes me glad I have no friends, period

"If you follow/subscribe to this "problematic person", then I will block you!" Me: Do it, pussy! No balls!

Hope y'all find like minded friends eventually

Life was never kind

@@Mightyscandare You're not wrong.

People who actually have problems to worry about or things to look forward to want their entertainment to do just that; entertain them, no BS behind it. That is enough. Sad-sacks like these very likely don't have ANY such things in their lives. Entertainment and a need for approval are ALL they have in their lives, and it will NEVER be enough.

@@humrH2360 i guess

@@KurayamiRyu Because those people are miserable and want to take down everyone else with them. Instead of doing something to better their lives, they get off to tormenting others.

Bringing me back to my childhood Lmao 😂😂

@@KDB349 hehe

I miss the days when the internet is counterculture and rebelled against the puritans.

​@@dragongirl2004 sounds like religion is a disease

@@dragongirl2004 also true

Sometimes I miss deviantart... kids these days would NOT survive

we had it too good, bros. You don't know what you've got until it's gone, gone, gone.

The political left is full of mental evil that wants anything. Not itself unconditionally destroyed. And they made everything political in there power plays that every inch needs to be fought over so the left does not try and go for the whole mile in the slippery slope falacy that the left is doing to try and get criminal stuff like pedophilia legal etc.

I swear someone could program a bot to argue like an anti and it wouldn't be that hard

@@leafface5890You ain't wrong lol

Damn. That's dark... and true. That's f*cking sad

Friendship was never a real thing that actually exists. It's always been a lie to more easily take advantage of others.

Never befriend with these kind of people. If i am i just ignore or left the group even if my best friend inside it. Dont need someone to tell me what to do.

@@ladybug2579 no such thing as "friends" exist, only traitors who have not revealed themselves yet.

Would you like a cup of tea or coffee. You seem tired

I dunno why people are referring to these people are friends, why the hell did they even talk to them in the first place.

@@Infelious maybe loneliness. Or low sanity... can't tell

​@@InfeliousI think most are Fairweather friends only friends when they need them and only stop if they have something they disagree or see something they don't like about them

​@@Infeliousprobably following the classic "these people like the same stuff I do" -> "I like these people, they're my friends" -> "Holy Crap, these people are toxic" -> "if I break from these people I'll be alone because being around them has chased off all the normal people" pipeline. Or the ancient proverb version: "If you can't recognise the snake, you won't know it's venomous until it bites you, and by then you've already been bitten." (Yeah, I know the ending is lame; you try coming up with a convincing ancient proverb on the spot...)

Agreed

they're probably pestering or they wanted to join in, antis however, they had different motives. Their position, ruin or break them.

I concur.

This remind me of my lil sister. I hope one day she stop giving shizz to the harassers

The misinformation around it is absolutely insane

As a fellow autistic person, I agree that you're right.

​@@joshuajackson4473as another autistic, I agree with your agreement

@@joshuajackson4473 I'm starting to think us autists aren't the one who see reality differently...

​@@LizzardtongNah it is because we see it differently that we actually can draw the line between fiction and reality.

@@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 Exactly! man, this feels like a fever dream or a twilightzone episode. a world where people are so concerned with being morally upright, they start to care about the rights and feelings of fictional charactersm than for those in real need.

You know people will lie there way past that or use legit mental health conditions to bypass that etc

@@TheManofthecross Then make it more strict.

@@dreameva1400 How? By doxxing children?

How is it harming anyone in real life when it's a combination of pixels is my question.

My friend and I have genshin oc x cannon. Mines a female intersex doll named Gloria and Venti. Hers in the daughter of zhongli and his disease wife who’s shipped with baizu

True, but it's kind of a grey area. Like, keeping it as a fantasy is fine, but when it starts going into expecting it IRL, it's definitely not, and then theres live action, where it kind of counts as both the actor and character

But it’s weird when they like romanticise pedophilia. 😭

@@Luxxciano we don’t?

I had my name censored like voldemort and all I drew was 2 unrelated teenagers holding hands 😅

True, but at some point what they say starts to stick to your image. How do you respond then?

@@MrFerski Never apologize. Especially on social media.

Can you tell me what it meens ? I'm not good with these words

@@Mightyscandare Lets just say, its full of suffering and injustice. there's going to be a lot of bad things happening throughout.

@@ROBLOXGamingDavid i see.

​@@MightyscandareShort version? You know those societies in fiction where the general populace is firmly under the boot of some individual, group or groups? Your 1984, your Fahrenheit 451, just about any cyberpunk setting? Those are dystopias. Or, the short short version: the exact, photo negative, opposite of a utopia.

​@@Mightyscandare A dystopia is a general image of a society þat is detrimental to one or more aspects of þe human condition, Such as þe soul, þe freedom, property, privacy, safety etc.

Yes. And if you find me near them. Beware for some devious acts

a simple math problem would take care of it. something difficult like 25 / 0

Yeah I think so too. I would be worried about the teens’ mental health if they would decide to get involved with twitter stuff like these instead of being spectators quietly observing the drama and situations happening here.

Yeah. Many of those "proship dni" people would go out interact and harass the people they consider "problematic" though they were ones that wanted others not ro interact with them, which is so annoying.

Everytime these people have proship DNI in their bio's choices to interacts,harass,dox and send death threats instead of following their own dni

If you send a death threat, you should get a visit from the police. If you do it again, you should get a shiny pair of bracelets and a trip to your local jail and possibly prison.

The political left will use this to try and set up the final solution conver belt for any non leftists to kill. And your family and you will be targeted by the left for this

@@NuchiAsakithe political left do this all the time and they mostly get away with it.

@@NuchiAsaki very much agree with this!

I'm gonna bet zero dollars the fictional characters were older than you And zero cents

@@BlooMonkiMan ??? Sorry I don’t understand the comment lmao

@@ethanissupercool7168 I think they're saying that the characters were more than likely older than you were at the time

@@alecrutz6979 yeah, but still they called me these stuff and told me to do *bad actions* to myself

@@alecrutz6979 I was even willing to bet a solid $0.00 on it

Many Twitter antis have been caught red handed having lolicon material in their favorites.

My experience these people used "Right of Fictional Character" as a excused to beat down ships they don't like while being able to claim the moral high ground but they would leave problematic ship's they like alone. I seen people say "these two kid character would be cute together "( not even in a sexual way), they would get run off the fandom by anti-shipper saying "Your sexualizing kids!" , later the attacker would come out saying they preferred the same kid character in ship but it a different relationship and they don't get attacked for it.

Ah yes, because involuntary celibation is when "nagatoro kinda mid. 😬" because pedophilia is when "there's no such thing as owl houses! 🙄"

Thats weird. In my experience its Nagatoro fans that are called incels because the manga/anime has sexual scenes.

@@BlooMonkiMan All I said was Nagatoro is dragging its feet and Luz is built like a lollipop what part of her looks like a real child.

​@@dragongirl2004 Idk the dude typed a whole light novel to tell me I suck at talking to girls. It was reddit so that's probably it.

@@rezorus8832 Yeah, I was agreeing with you. Like, just because lollipop has loli in it doesn't mean Epstein lurks among us

Yeah, that's what "fan fiction" is; it's non-canon artwork made just for fun and creativity, lol.

Yep. Its kinda sad But if i try to put myself as thoses people. I hope it doesnt stay like that for more then a week

@@Mightyscandare i do know how to distinguish them. I know who they are, they can still exist as it is on the internet. The only concern is the antis' capability to do anything for their position... even if leads to murder. Well if the extreme situation does occur, well here goes the security risk of ourselves.

@@ROBLOXGamingDavidoverall it’s empty movement with no real action behind it. And plus if they do try and fail to act on it, hold up a sketch of a loli in one hand and an adult holding a gun in the other. They are likely insane/psychotic enough to think it’s a Real hostage situation.

this feels more true with us stuff glad im not one of these guys if you ask me

And often enough the antis are the pedos themselves

Your morals start to crumble. Þis is þe beginning.

@@vtuber_slayer ????? proship is an adjective my dude, not a noun. there is no such thing as "a" proship. being proship just means you're an advocate for freedom of fiction/anti-censorship/anti-harassment. if ur saying ur pro-harassment please know that you sound ridiculous.

Same here. I don't have any social media anymore, I only comment on yt vids now lol. If I'm really bored I'll go on Ao3 where problematic stuff is allowed

@@vtuber_slayer nvm just looked thru ur comment history. should've expected this as WOW you have some terrible takes.

​@@fairytypinggThey are a troll, or fucking braindead.

@@vtuber_slayer that is just not what that means. i'm a proshipper and you're trying to tell me what the term *i* identify with means? tbh i dont even ship any problematic ships. i just believe in the right for others to ship those things without being harassed because its fiction and anyone who gives a shit is delusional, like u lmao

Too bad they're hypocrites about it. They don't believe vidyas don't cause violence but god forbid if you ship two certain characters together

​@@Saltedroastedcaramel They also spread misinformation. Violent and sexual feelings/urges are linked in the brain, they share similar brain functions. Yet they keep pretending that they're different.

Alright, I'll be sure to remind them of their status as a toothpick limbed neckbeard who's worse at fighting than my he/they pronounded Slenderman lookin' ass

For me I'm just autistic

CandyApplePie, this is exactly why you have to go out and make friends. Because you can't allow these people to close yourself off from the outside world like that.

@@LuznoLindo that is very true... believe me, im working on that, its more a matter of finding the right people to be around who you know isnt going to backstab you over shit that doesnt matter. ive got severe trust issues im slowly learning to overcome every day, so i appreciate the sentiment 💖 i wont let the random strangers win, we got people to prove wrong.

Idk man I'd say terrorism is pretty problematic

Goldfish are smarter

I love how so many antis love gore and horror and then tell us "fiction affects reality" like ok but....

@@leafface5890 I know. I don’t understand how. Especially when the anime/game is full of theses things they hate. Like for exemple, the Discord server my friend went was a server about Danganronpa. And oh boy, the game isn’t shy with incest and toxic relationships themes. But the fans on the others hand….

I mean it's pretty understandable why they got banned.

@@Faeishly9 You Find it understable to get ban for a ship between two robots bears ? Not only that, but get insulted for a fictional ship between two…. robots… In a community about a game where the goal is to kill others. And where incest and other horrible things are in the theme of the game. And in the game itself, there’s way worse than the ship between the two robots bears.

@@mikkelludenberg6602 Yes?! Not insulted no, but banned? Yes.

He has to so RU-vid doesn't ban his account. RU-vid is staffed by them.

He has to otherwise there's the chance they could report him for harassment. Of course, some of these people will announce that they got covered anyway.

@@NuchiAsakithat’s sad but sadly the truth rev has to do this on rumble and other places with the showing of account names

@@joshuajackson4473and still will report rev for harassment regardless

the term proship was created as a response to bullies in fandom who would harass shippers for having a ship that they believed "stood on the way of their OTP". proship was basically an indication that it is a safe space and you dont have to fear of being judged or bullied for your personal tastes in fictional ships. nowadays its being twisted to justify harassment ofc, and associating yourself with such term brings even more negative attention from "antis", though it assures you that the ppl you consider friends arent actually abusive. i wanted to also mention its not just anti's dislike for certain ships or applying irl morals/laws to fiction. its entitlement and hypocrisy cuz most of them are found enjoying exactly same or just as tabboo ship dynamic with different characters. they also get daily updates on what is considered problematic. if someone is not keeping up with their made up rules or is found to be hypocritical, then antis call one of their own "a secret proshipper", so they are unable to acknowledge "yeah we are kinda hypocritical/dumb as shit". anyone who gives the concept of "minding your own business" a second thought is often deemed an apologist or a potential predator. it's basically cult behavior.

@@HaoshWantsCookie Damn, that's actually disturbing as hell. Kinda makes me feel like society is regressing in a way. It's straight up tribalism. You have people who shun, harass, and ostracise others just for not sharing their ideology. If you're not the "ingroup", you're an enemy.

@@Hardcrafter2807 honestly, i bet majority of antis dont actually believe what they are saying with how hypocritical they get. your regular antis arent just people who share a belief against something, but are ppl who give into a pattern of extremely toxic/abusive behavior and participating in chronically online discourse like shipping wars. majority of antis are queer or have religious trauma, they may be desperate for power and validation cuz they have tough irl situation and feel helpless. they go online to express that though through very harmful ways. they dont realize that they are reinforcing same ideas that have hurt them in the first place. many ex-antis expressed that was their experience.