Crackdown 2 took Bioshock's twist and did it better 

Then you must've been on drugs

@@urbanmidnight1 Well Crackdown did come out over 10 years ago.

@@urbanmidnight1 That was the game though. Shooting, jumping and orbs.

@@WinstonPoptart shooting is a distraction from OooooooorbDown. It is like the Mary Jane levels in spider man. Every dude punched shot or run over is filler between that sweet sweet ding of an orb collected. Legendary expert mode on crack down 3 is 100% of orbs collected with zero enemies shot or punched.

Yep I was in like jr.high when I played this game. Lol def didn't pay attention to audio logs.

Same especially when crackdown 2 came out

Lol and I'll do it again I enjoyed killing civilians aswell everybody even peace keepers all dead the power yessssszxxxxxxx

Yeah and when i finished the game i killed all the innocents and agency agents

@@dduffy6870 they still spawn back aha

@@Weed814 yeah ik

FINEST VIEW IN THE CITY AGENT

I see you are noided agent.

Its back in 3

WEEELLLLCOOOMMME TO FUUUUUNLAAAAAND BAHAHAHHAAHA

@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 🤣👍

I'm more a fan of the videos where they clearly have no idea what they're doing and barely have a grasp of what a video game is. Favorite of all time is the one where the guy is reviews the VR gun simulator and hes ranting about how he's scared of guns and doesnt know how to play

Very cool, Dinkster!

ShakenMike link please

It's called acting

Yup

@@pokkiheart hmm yes, such a crazy unrealistic thing to happen in a videogame, nothing like that would ever take place in real life... hmmmm...

Yeah that last line hits different now

@@pokkiheart Nah, more like 0:55

Crackdown 1 and 2 are now free to play on xbox btw

You must’ve Been pissed😂

Lol, i beat the cell strongholds and freak nests. Then i wondered why i wasnt getting some kind of reward for it.

It is essentially a game made up entirely of side missions, but the real fun comes from the sandbox it provides.

I adored this game as a kid. It was my literal favorite for years

I actually liked the zombies honestly, jumping down into a horde with a shotgun and melee or getting yellow clouds as I drove through them in the super car, shit was fun

You shit on shit, it's what you do. Crackdown 1 was pretty good but 2 was shit and 3 really needed to evolve.

personally i never saw the Freaks as a gimmick ...in fact to me it just seemed like a natural continuation of Crackdown 1's story also it was nice having giant ogre sized freaks that could match your strength by throwing cars at you or being chased by the acid spitters onto the rooftops and even though there weren't three different gangs the Cell at least had a selection of different lieutenants.

One of my favourite games

Cynics.

@@Sgt-Wolf Nah I'm definitely a cynic and I still love folks geeking out over things like this.

@@darkthaumaturge587 Then your not a cynic then. Your most likely just depressed.

@@Sgt-Wolf Oh I most definitely am a cynic. I think you are thinking of misanthropes. Many cynics are misanthropes, but not all.

@@darkthaumaturge587 Ahhhh I see.

Um, no, everyone hates 3.

@@npc2792 yup

@@npc2792 imagine waiting for so long for mobile graphic game

the only reason people dislike crackdown 2 is because it's inferior to crackdown 1, there's only one gang, the same map from crackdown 1 is reused, the mutants threat are more annoying than fun to battle, the objectives sucks (activate 9 beacons around the world map then defend the agency tower to win, for me at least, wiping out all the bosses was more fun than defending a beacon from waves of mutants until it activates, for the whole game), and the story twist was completely forgotten when crackdown 3, crackdown 2 isn't that bad to be fair, it has multiplayer up to 4 people, comparated to the first game, which could only allow 2 players, the combat is a little more polished than in 1, Driving, while not perfect, it's way better and more responsive than in crackdown 1, so driving challenges are easier and more fun to do than in crackdown 1, the twist in the story is just as good as in crackdown 1, except this time they gave hints throught the audio logs, which can either be a good or bad thing depending of the point of view of some people. Still crackdown 1 IS the best crackdown, Crackdown 2 feels more like a DLC than a full game, and Crackdown 3 feels more like a Mobile rip off game than a full game. Crackdown 1 rocks

@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 you don’t get it. I don’t like crackdown 2 for its story or anything, I like it because it’s fun. It’s a toy box of interesting veichles and mechanics, that you can just play with. This is why I love keys to the city mode so much, you can just make your own fun and I really dig that about it. It’s a simplistic game that knows what it is, and that’s why it’s got a special place for me

Unless the game is Crackdown 3, because there's barely anything interesting.

@Anonymous Panacea ...? No?

It's more of "you were obeying a bad guy's orders all along," yeah, but that's also true of both games. In Bioshock, it was mind control; in Crackdown, it was propaganda (and probably also mind control, i mean, why wouldn't they). I mean, before Bioshock's twist was revealed, did we really know any more about Fontaine than the Crackdown PC knows about the Agency?

@@dymaseran Yes becuase similar to dark souls games. When you explore rapture you learn a lot about what happened before which includes the tapes about fontaine

Finaly

System Shock did it better.

@@MrShagification System Shock was much more subtle in its set up and delivery. The little voice in the your ear has been lying. The character had no choice and to get to that point in the game the gamer has no choice. Bioshock made it flashier and practically beat the player over the head with the point of the twist. It also doesn't work as well because the villain is forgettable and his plans seem quaint compared to those in System Shock.

Right? Recently started playing Crackdown 1 again because those orbs hit me straight in the dopamine and I'm waiting a bit on the third game. I was way too young to realize that the agency was evil back then.

@@ehoffart529 I was the same way, I havent touched Crackdown 1 in such a long time and I only realized they were evil just last week and I played 1 and 2 to completion

Starting to wish I'd never sold my 360...I really wanna play those two games again.

@@Quintonias 1 is free on xbone : ) not 2 though : (

Crackdown and crackdown 2 were the shit. I always loved the twist. I was 10 when I played it the first time and made and my older brother took turns playing it and we reached the eff d together and my older brother was like "holy shit" and I was oblivious to that was happening so he explained it to me and I was in awe. I had never played a game where you find out last minute you were the bad guy and it really left me in love with the game. To have you going around "saving" the city only to find out the agency you're working for wanted complete and utter control. Crackdown starts in my top 20 best games I've ever played sitting solidly at 13

How could he die if he just respawns

@@Heretogasunu That's how "respawning" works in Crackdown, you get cloned.

@@slvrcobra1337 I know

Well agents die ofthen (depending on your skill of course) so they are cloned in a regular schedule so you protagonist may have died 3 times at least before reaching the ending.

Pretty sure you live, and that was Cell who were making their own agents

Kabcr1 Congratulations?

Even the storytelling was downgraded lmao

Yeah I’m pretty sure the Crackdown 3 devs had no idea about any of this. What a shame.

I think originally they planned on doing soemthing huge, but they had hardware limitations and shit like that on last gen consoles. So crackdown 3 was being perfected on last generation console, and then the new generstion gets announced and they basically had already made a large portion of the game. So that set them back years because they had to rebuild everything to work on next generation consoles, AND they also needed to work on graphics because lets be honest, crackdown 3 looks like a 2012 game graphically. Thats because they struggled to make the massive world they had made on the next gen systems. Overall crackdown 3 had a lot of developmental problems that led to it getting released years after intended, and also downgraded. They orginally wanted to build a completely destructable world for campaign, and i think they were close to achiving that in the last generation of consoles before the new ones were announced and it was simply too hard to build on the new generation with how good the games also look. So my thinking is they had built this new game based on continuing the crackdown 2 story, we're hit with a bombshell when told that they'd have to rebuild and release their game on a new console and made the story a secondary thing because it probably didn't work anymore with the changes they were forced to make. Im still hoping for a crackdown 4 in the future that continues this story

@@ChrisDelChris that's what they want you to think (even though theres no safe way to use chimera and the secret backer is the same voice as goodwin)

@@GrexTheCrabasitor what

Maybe this time both parts were bad. Remenber that the "bad guy" this time want to keep shut down the world and this is bad for the agency plans.

Terry is so goddamn likeable that i almost forgot the agency is evil.

@@GrexTheCrabasitor check his twitter and you'll change your mind on how likeable he is lol

when he called the scientist terrorist I know it was suspicious because everyone who has a good heart and care about humanity is suddenly a terrorist really exposed how the government thinks

They had that nice menacing feel to them. Less personality but a way to expose them as just tools too.

They felt a bit too much like Halo Spartans but I really loved them

The Agency in Just Cause is pretty much a naked stand-in for the CIA, though, rather than a private paramilitary. Operation Just Cause was also the name of the US invasion of Panama in 1989. Crackdown is about the actions of fascism at home, while Just Cause is about imperialism abroad.

Just Cause wearing this plot on its sleeve and treating it as a positive thing makes for an interesting contrast.

@@andrewmillar4246 is Just Cause critical of the Agency's intervention in these countries on a subtextual layer or is it seriously treating American exceptionalism as a good thing? i played the games when i was younger but i can't remember if Rico was actually supposed to be the good guy or not.

@@comraderosa6058 It has some depth. You can tell by the cynical and satirical 90's B action movie view of the whole franchise. By the jokes to the dialogue, gameplay and overall narrative. Just Cause 1 and 2 were overarching context of the agency. While Just Cause 3 and 4 are more personified. At the end of the games they directly mention destroying the agency. That tells us that Just Cause 5 is the final game in the franchise. We have our enemy, location and culmination.

@@comraderosa6058 Rico is absolutely the Big Damn Hero of JC2. I can't comment on the other games in the series, but he's called a regime change specialist and while there isn't a lot of plot, he's treated as a hero by every faction and the game ends (spoilers?) With him destroying nukes and killing the Kim Jong Un looking dictator. At no point does JC2 ever stop, turn around, and look back on Rico's dayjob mostly being killing every husband, father, and son with the bad luck of being conscripted.

I think you need help.

@@digitaldevil7522 no u

Totally agree. The tone was so different in the second game that I didn't mind the re-use of Pacific City

It hints at the previous but it more takes on its own approach, because you're in a new city not already in agency control. I really enjoyed it, i think the ratings were just too harsh

So far, Robert, no, it doesn't seem to do too much concerning it, but. We do know this, Terra Nova is being used as a front by someone who has a very keen interest in getting their hands on an Agent's DNA, almost like the person has some parts, but needs a few more pieces to complete the puzzle.

Ending of 2 shows you exactly who it is. It was used as a sequel hook.

No it doesn’t it doesn’t even have the twist that I thought it would where the agency was terranovas primary customer since they were hinting at it all through the game but it never happened still I loved CD3

I figured it's Cell's leader since she's shown with your Agent's arm at the end of 2.

+Xesathean Shadow You don't necessarily pay for the ignorance. You're better suited to combat any upcoming threats anyway, as you proved more competent than the elders. If the elders could not protect against you and your insurgents with control of the planet, then they did not prove themselves capable of stopping the future threat. Even in their complete plans, they specifically used the commander's mind in lieu of their own tactics.

That's true. I never thought of it that way before. Hmmmmmm. Hopefully they'll make a third game so we can find out! If not, well. I think both cases are plausible.

Ehhh... I mean, the Elders weren't doing it to protect humanity or anything, they just wanted to make vessels that could replace their own dying bodies. They still needed us around until they finished the Avatar Project, but after that they *absolutely did* plan to liquidate humanity. This even comes up after your first Avatar kill, they start putting the final plans in place to send everyone into the gene clinics for a mandatory 'cure for the human condition.' Edit to add more: I saw their commentary about the Deep Ones more as a last-ditch attempt to manipulate us into giving in. Sure, the Deep Ones are a real threat to them, and also to us - but the Elders are still lying. If we did give in, they wouldn't uplift us as free equals! They'd make their Avatar vessels, add the ADVENT troopers to their menagerie of other genetically-modified battle drones... and still wipe out the rest of us. Yeah, they'd probably be better equipped to fight the Deep Ones in that outcome than humanity would, but we'd all still be dead!

@@dymaseran Lmao, turns out I'm just plain wrong. Haven't finished the game in forever. I've mainly been messing around in my current save. Although, the Assassin Chosen did say something like, "don't you want your children's children to live?" Maybe that was just a rouse to fool the headstrong XCOM. Even if they did let us live, I'm sure they'll genetically mutilate us anyway... I forgot if the game ever explained why humans were so important, though. Like, why not just mix up the cows or something?

overrated

@@failtolawl I'm not even really praising it. It was just a similar topsy turvy kind of twist that I liked slightly better than Crackdown. Neither of these games are that great though frankly.

Amazing story but in the end it was just another generic third person shooter when it came to game mechanics

@@dman5527x Again, I'm hardly praising either Crackdown or Spec Ops. Crackdown 1 was alright for it's time, but really didn't hold up well after just a few years which showed by the time 2 came out. Spec Ops was already dated when it came out and had nothing going for it besides a subversive twist. I appreciated these minor plot wrinkles in both games, but they do not redeem the overall products.

kinda saw the "are we the baddies" twist from a mile away, as for crackdown's, I knew something was up when they said The Agency was originally founded by The Shai Gen Corporation

that picture is about claiming satire as a defense when someone points out shitty actions (and how its fairly obvious when someone does this, because you cant just call just anything satire and expect it to stick), not about, prior to even a *possibility* for criticism, including in-game lore that reflects a much more compelling and dark plot that also manages to be more caring about the world it takes place in. . they left hidden notes that criticized not only the genres state-favouring slant and ham-handed delivery of plot twists in videogames, but pointed out the beauty in allowing players to genuinely investigate and form their own opinions on what is going on, while still acknowledging that there Is a findable, accurate truth, however you feel about it. . the twist isnt relying on everyone finding it, thats the *point*- its about rewarding the people thinking to look for one. it doesnt bother hitting you over the head with a million flashing lights and signs saying "THIS IS WHATS GOING ON", and it doesnt claim youre a bad person for playing the game and listening along, because you dont have a choice and never did. . instead of denying the reality of a videogame with only one possible path of action, it utilizes the grim reality of "you cant ever diverge from what we have carefully orchestrated" to illustrate the lack of autonomy of people living in a hypermilitarized propaganda state. it fully emphasizes that your player has been duped, and as such is a victim, if an especially haunting one for being an active but unknowing participant in the victimization of others. but theyre not "weak" or "foolish" for having been duped, because *thats just how propaganda works.* . in bioshock, the twist is delivered in such an obvious, loud, overpowering way that it really doesnt feel like you suddenly have free will- it just feels like another reality youre forced to believe. the twist is *supposed* to free you to make your own decisions, but there is One Right Answer and One Wrong Answer, and theres no way for you to misunderstand which is which. its not free will, its Forced Actions... 2!!! . bioshock actively insults you for following the directions of *a game that wont let you do anything else.* there is no way to question what is going on, there is no path where you realize early. you *have* to play along, even if you dont want to, and then the game calls you an idiot for doing so, implying that you could have done different things if you were Good enough, despite this not being the case at all. . crackdown 2, meanwhile, doesnt deny its medium- the fact that you cant do anything but what the agency wants you to do is the theme of the story. you are a victim, and there is nothing you can do to change that. your character *doesnt* know whats going on, and thats not his fault. everything he does, was planned by someone else pulling the strings. and its not you. . while you as the player can put in the work to understand whats truly going on, and youre rewarded with information on it, all it does is tell you that your protagonist has even less free will than you thought. . the story doesnt change, because your character doesnt realize that it should. and the only thing you can do, is watch, and play along. and noone pretends you ever had a choice in the matter, or faults you for it.

Wish the US Intelligence Aparatus had super soldiers that were all over 6 feet tall and could jump higher than my house. I’d do whatever I could to join them

Yeah I feel like a super secret ending you can only act on after listening to all the audio logs could have worked amazing if done well

Vigilante Film and Design crackdown games are aren’t they? I’m sure when they were given away with gold they became backwards compatible.

@@lozg1985 only the first one

@@welshizz All are playable on X1 now, yipee!

Just the option to go against the agency would reveal that there might be a reason to do so. The whole idea of the subtlety is that you have to be completely self motivated to find the truth, and if someone finds out by accident you can defy it, they get a hint at the truth

@@dankwojak3689 I mean, they don't have to clearly mark the choice. Metro 2033 is pretty subtle for example.

only in fan fiction can this really be made in to reality.

Who do you fight in that? I never even met someone from those audio logs and the only real bad guy gets torn apart.

Purplefood There’s a mission where you go underground into the oni base as the rookie, like, 2nd last mission. You meet a police officer looking for something and if you are missing audio logs he gets killed by buggers- if you have all of them, he goes on with you where he unlocks a door and you find Sadie’s dad (she was the main character in the logs) whom he was going to assassinate. Then he tries to kill you and you kill him

@@maxawesom3850 fair play

No worries, CD3 is pretty much still a hyperviolent Robocop simulator and you’re still fighting for the Agency

Honestly I would have rather had that as a story and game than crackdown 3