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Crankshaft Pulley Repair on the Boosted Miata 

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The crankshaft pulley on the Boosted Miata needed to be repaired after the four screws that hold it to the crankshaft backed out.
The repair is straight forward and required replacing the 6mm hex head bolts and also creating a new alignment pin on the crankshaft hub plate. Check it out!
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@xturboexpress
@xturboexpress 6 лет назад
Exactly what I needed, thanks!
@GimpyMR2
@GimpyMR2 7 лет назад
Also I just wanted to say I really appreciate your videos. I'm also a ... uhmm.. "mature" Miata owner/modifier. A lot of the other people posting content it's a bit hard for me to relate to. I appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos, and I hope you keep them coming as you can.
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 7 лет назад
Hey Gimpy, yeah youtube skews very young although Mike the Miata King was one of the first guys posting videos about Miatas and he's no spring chicken either. Glad you'er enjoying them! I'll keep them coming the best I can.
@Baithehuman
@Baithehuman 7 лет назад
Mate you seriously deserve more viewers love your videos also what adapter are you using to connect the megasquirt to the Mac ?
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 7 лет назад
Baithehuman thanks! I was using a Bluetooth serial adapter from EFI Analytics.
@TheThecharliejolly
@TheThecharliejolly 7 лет назад
love your vids cant wait for more
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 7 лет назад
Thecharliejolly thanks man!
@thomaslockley945
@thomaslockley945 4 года назад
Great video
@Tha_AntiChrist
@Tha_AntiChrist 6 лет назад
Lucky. On my na miata the pulley bolts directly onto the timing cog and my bolts sheered off inside the timing cog so I’m basically about to do my timing again and I’m not thrilled.
@Monstercraft2000
@Monstercraft2000 6 лет назад
I thought it was lifter tick but mid boost It broke off on the city street and my harmonic balancer passed me in the right lane......
@atli126
@atli126 4 года назад
Thanks!
@GimpyMR2
@GimpyMR2 7 лет назад
Heh, and this just inspired me to go put thread locker on mine. I am in the middle of a rebuild, so it was no big deal ... but I had just put mine in without :)
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 7 лет назад
Honestly, I've never used loctite in the 3 or 4 rebuilds I've done over the years (on these bolts anyways) and never had a problem until this last time.
@phillipockletree1199
@phillipockletree1199 3 года назад
Does anyone know What size and spec this crank pulley bolts are those??? The four bolts
@michaelc1877
@michaelc1877 6 лет назад
Great video, extremely helpful. Quick questions, I have a 96 and my pulley fell out while driving. I just took it apart but didn't have a trigger plate...I see some kits have them and some do not so should I get one? Maybe it fell off when the pulley fell out when driving?
@HooverTuber
@HooverTuber 6 лет назад
Yeah - you will need that.
@michaelc1877
@michaelc1877 6 лет назад
HooverTuber thanks!!
@bagelbytes69420
@bagelbytes69420 7 лет назад
Official service advisory suggests replacing the woodruff key with any service to the pulleys and gears, as well as new crankshaft bolts.
@badcommentbot8349
@badcommentbot8349 5 лет назад
lol your a doushe
@anthonyramirez9610
@anthonyramirez9610 Год назад
Will the pulley come out like that on a 1.8?
@spencerfalzy
@spencerfalzy 3 года назад
Will this work for my 1990
@one234569and10
@one234569and10 Год назад
I don't have a trigger plate - I have a 1990 / 1.6 / short
@MiataMods
@MiataMods 7 лет назад
Turbo lifestyle problems? :-) Hope your hand will recover soon so you have your full mobility again!
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 7 лет назад
MiataMods thanks.MM!
@peteohead
@peteohead Год назад
Any tips on how to separate the pulley boss from the pulley? Mine is rusted together. Should I use a press?
@HooverTuber
@HooverTuber Год назад
PB blaster penetrating solvent and or heat then press would be the last resort I suppose
@phillipockletree1199
@phillipockletree1199 3 года назад
I feel you struggle @5:32 when trying to record and work at the same time
@GearHeadsGarageChannel
@GearHeadsGarageChannel 7 лет назад
Yikes! What do you think caused that in the first place? Improperly torqued bolts on the balancer? Glad it looks like it worked out at least!
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 7 лет назад
I'd like to think too much power! But probably just not tight enough :)
@GearHeadsGarageChannel
@GearHeadsGarageChannel 7 лет назад
lol wouldn't we all like to assume that the problem ;) Well good luck with your hand! Hopefully you can be back out driving soon! and I must also say...for a man older than me I am surprised you are up so late!
@TheGabe92
@TheGabe92 7 лет назад
Afaik it's common for FI Miata motors putting out high torque to do this. There are aftermarket balancers that supposedly fix this available, but they are expensive. Probably best to do some research.
@GearHeadsGarageChannel
@GearHeadsGarageChannel 7 лет назад
I was running 232whp 232ft/lbs and didn't have this problem, I never heard much about the pulley itself coming off in that fashion. More common is past 250whp its recommended to get a better harmonic balancer(not because they come off) to reduce vibrations and protect the oil pump.
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 7 лет назад
Yeah - in my case I'm sure I didn't torque the screws enough. I did use blue loctite this time however so hopefully that helps. I do want the ATI super damper, but not at 400 bucks I don't! When I invest in a Boundary oil pump on my next build, I most likely will get the ATI to protect it.
@rodrigosolis3127
@rodrigosolis3127 5 лет назад
If one of the four bolts of the pulley broke, can I take out the pulley without using easy outs or similar?
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 5 лет назад
Yeah, you should be able to remove the pulley with the trigger wheel and everything still attached after removing the main bolt. You probably need to drop the sway bar to have enough room though.
@josephmcdaniel9056
@josephmcdaniel9056 7 лет назад
My pulley spins freely ????
@rodrigosolis3127
@rodrigosolis3127 5 лет назад
I miss your videos sir
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 5 лет назад
Thanks! More coming....
@one234569and10
@one234569and10 Год назад
Boosted Tech is this a 1.8 or 1.6?
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech Год назад
1.8 vvt
@vandieselcuuuz
@vandieselcuuuz 4 года назад
Does a naturally aspirated 97 need a trigger plate
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 4 года назад
Yes 96 thru 05 use them.
@vandieselcuuuz
@vandieselcuuuz 4 года назад
Having a hard time finding one in Cali what would happen if I didn’t run one been looking through the forums but can’t seem to find anything I know it sounds like a dumb question but just wondering
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 4 года назад
vandieselcuuuz won’t run with out it
@vandieselcuuuz
@vandieselcuuuz 4 года назад
Thank you 🙏🏽 I know it’s a lot what I’m asking but any websites I can order one from I’ve tried treasure coast moss and I think I found one on eBay but feel weary about it
@rupunzel6299
@rupunzel6299 7 лет назад
Pins are for locating parts, threaded fasteners are for developing tension within a joint. Using a cut off threaded grub as a pin is a really, really bad idea. Pins and their matching holes must be solid and precise. Drilling out the holes then threading them by hand is a recipe for failure. Typical tolerances required for proper pin location and fit are in the 0.001" range, this is not gonna happen by using a hand drill. adding to this problem, the threaded grub will chew up the over sized hand drilled out hole resulting a another part failure. Doing this properly means setting the whole thing up in a milling machine (Bridgeport to similar) using the proper undersized drill then reamed to fit a solid dowel pin. The proper alternative is to use the correct new parts. Those M6 pulley screws (screws go in to threaded holes, bolts have a nut on the other threaded end opposite of the bolt head) should be grade 12.9 socket head caps screws or similar and they MUST be installed with Loctite RED or RC609 Green. There is zero reason for these M6 pulley screws to ever be on the road serviceable. If the come loose, this problem simply repeats over and over aging until the lesson is learned. If these M6 screws every do need to come out, simply heat them up with a torch to break the loctite bond and remove them. There is zero reason to re-use threaded hardware. IMO, this is another Mazda design failure. The three pulley screws should be M8 and there should be two M8 locating pins to secure the pulley to hub. If this was done, none of these Miata crank pulley's would come undone in the way they do all too often. Better yet, a solid pulley that cannot be taken apart. The crank screw should have blue Loctite 242 applied or there is a good possibility it can work lose when least expected.
@Seandoestech
@Seandoestech 7 лет назад
Thanks for taking the time to share this info, great stuff! - just a couple points. That pin that I replaced with a screw is just an alignment pin, so that the timing marks are correct. It's fairly snug and no it's not perfect, but it will work until I get a balanced damper installed soon. I agree the stock M6 hex washer head bolts are weak, but honestly I've never had any trouble until this episode and it likely due to me not snugging those m6 bolts down to spec. I know fasteners, sold them for 15 years to the military and aerospace. I would not use socket head cap screws in this application, mainly because the sockets strip - even on the hard alloys - it's all cheap imported crap, at least the stuff you can get per each at your local fastener distributors. The best solution are grade 8.8 or better hex washer heads, loctited (pick your poison - I'm staying with blue) and properly torqued to 90-100 in/lb -should be fine for most applications. But I agree, that pulley design is not great that why I'm replacing mine soon!.
@rupunzel6299
@rupunzel6299 7 лет назад
This joint design by the folks at Mazda depends mostly on friction created by the clamping force from those M6 screws, jointed part location with anti-rotation provided by that single pin. Knowing metal is more rubber like than solid, the joint will move once a high enough shock load is applied by drive belt wind up and release, AC compressor clutch engagement and similar over comes the friction created by those three M6 screws. Once joint movement occurs, the road to failure is rapid. It is a joint design that will fail. What the design folks at Mazda did not account for is the real world shock loading involved with drive pulleys and belts that store and release energy, think pulling on a rubber band then letting it go. Good quality metric socket head cap screws are available from a number of on line suppliers that is not made in China junk. They are not that difficult to get (Bossard, Brighton Best, SPS, . www.unbrako.com/socket-screws As for socket head cap screws stripping out, that depends on the quality and tolerances of the internal hex of the screw and hex bit used to drive it. When high quality internal wrenching screws and hex bits are used, stripping out is usually not a problem. MS20004 to MS20024 series internal wrenching bolts don't have too many problems with their drives stripping out when driven by proper high quality tools. The older (now discontinued) NAS144 to NAS 158 series internal wrenching bolts used a larger internal hex size to reduce the potential stripping out problem. If this was a significant problem the current MS20002 -MS20024 series would have continued with the larger internal hex, but the aerospace folks did not and reduced the internal hex size. Ponder for a moment if this hub to pulley joint should ever need to come apart. Rational answer to the application is no, This implies using high strength loctite as being a non-issue or problem. Adding high strength loctite between the surfaces of this hub-pulley joint as an added means to reinforce this joint can be a good thing. The damage this hub-pulley can cause if they came apart under load at speed can be severe. Given the potential severity of what can happen if this joint failed, make this joint as inseparable as possible under all possible operating conditions. Breaking the loctite bond is just not difficult, heat the part to just over 300 degrees F and remove. This is what we do for flywheel and similar threaded joints.
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