Cruisers Have NEVER Been Better Than They Are Right Now! | Pt. 2 How To 

100% agreed! I'm someone who disagrees with PQ on BBs being the weakest class but this video is just simply good. We can all disagree on 100 things, but a constructive instructional video is always great! (And hopefully something we can all benefit from)

@@SappeREffecT i second this agreement.

Yeah you get into crossfires with anything at all you're going back to port real quick

Correct me if wrong but it adds to flags.

@@Mooncricketstinks Not anymore

@@anthrax2413 damn I didn't know they took that out. I wonder if that was intentional or a bug. Like how the whole achievement system is bugged.

@@Mooncricketstinks It was intentional.

@@Mooncricketstinks intentional. Instead, now there is a combat mission chain that will award you up to 5 signals containers, so you will get completely random signals instead of the ones you actually need

Zao fits the meta pretty well but Nevsky, Hindy, and Venezia have ppwercrept it quite a bit. They're better at the long range open water spamming thanks to them all having more HP and DPM, and Venezia and Hindy also have better armor. Their worse concealment doesn't matter nearly as much when a CV is in the game, and PQ isn't even running full conceal Zao. If Zao just had like 48k HP and better torp and gun angles it could be good again.

@@KarthikVishwamitra Other ships being better doesn't make the ship bad, and Zao has always been a good ship. It has best concealment, and if you can't use it, it has best accuracy and good shell velocity when you shoot long range. Torpedo angles are bad, but they really hurt if you get hit by even one and you have potential to stealth torpedo even in open water.

@@Jahvec concealment is useless with CVs around, the gun angles is atrocious, a single cit+pen took out half of your HP, the range is lacking Its damage output is poor, and the survivability is atrocious. How is it a good ship?

@@gusp6612 You are in a video with Zao getting over 200k worth of damage, arsonist and witherer achievement. Played right it's good ship, not excellent. Just because you can't angle and change speed between shots and can't stay at range doesn't make it bad, it makes your playstyle to be improved.

@@Jahvec against sub 50% WR red stats bottom feeders that can’t aim, and can’t use damecon. Yeah, I can do the same in a T9 cruiser easily, no need for a T10.

I mean, the community has always had to do that, WG WOWS tutorial only teaches you the basics. the Community teaches you GAME SENSE.

He has some videos somewhere where he talks about specific maps and strategies

Think he’s already done it bro

Is BB´s that ewant to hide behind you... ignore it

Those guys aren’t important, if you know you are doing something right it doesn’t matter what they say, it’ll reflect on the scoreboard

Yep same can be said for Battleship play sometimes... I've been reported for holding an entire flank , solo, keeping the only cap our team had green... and basically keeping the game winnable, because I was trading with a Scharnhorst that was edge sailing but preventing me from pushing back when I wanted , Scharnhorst isnt a ship you leave on your broadside. my team all died inside of 7 minutes, leaving me 4 vs 1.... I killed 2 of the 4, for I think 3 or 4 kills out of the 5 total. Still reported... There are a lot of really bad players in this game. Matchmaking monitor sort of helps, they are often 40 percent winrate players who do this sort of thing. basically have to learn to ignore it. If your above 50% winrate you should have confidence you are doing things right at least as often as you do things wrong and are generally beneficial to have on a team. If you are 45% winrate or below. STFU , you have no business telling anyone how to play the game. By the way the option to hide stats but leave them visible for clan mates is active now. Just in case anyone didn't know. But yeah... there are a lot more clueless people in this game than reasonable players. The average winrate is something like 48% (likely because the very best are 70%) Bottom line is play the game the way you know is best, dont pay too much attention to chat, especially from players who are below average.

albemarle actually is quite good now

@@derhesligebonsaibaum pls sir show me how to play good it in pls

@@renameduser_109 ? Spam HE, go for AP when there is a broadside, use islands because you are a floating citadel. You don't get citadelled as randomly as it once was but you still don't like to get hit by bbs

@@derhesligebonsaibaum theorically it seems easy

@@derhesligebonsaibaum no

Really? I though AP was its strong suit.

@@lucasmiller5977 It was, until stalingrad and petropavlovsk came along. Now I just use it as a super accurate HE spammer that can just sit angled and take no damage in return. I out snipe most cruisers because they can't pen my 50mm plating and I can pen them everywhere. I out snipe BBs because they only overpen my superstructure and I can light fires all day. Basically just sitting at 18km and out sniping everyone. You do need teammates to spot for you though since with my build the 20km concealment range is not gonna get you anywhere.

Imo if ocean was played more than people would be better players.

@@michaelmeli23 completely true 🤣

Ocean just emphasizes the basic rule. Poke out the enemies eyes, then beat on the blind men. Kill CV, Kill DD, win the game.

@@martinpalmer6203 pretty much.

haha 12k sap with vanezia go brr

Pretty much. HE spam, Radar, German Hydro, German Pen, British HE damage, American and Russian AP shells. I guess Def AA on every cruiser helps vs Carriers but lets just leave that part out cus its a mess.

The fact you’re here, watching videos on how to get better is probably the best thing you can do :) Everyone can stand to play better!

@@JoyousOblivion Thank you, Sir. Working on it!!

Kremlin has been nerfed to the ground. The dispersion nerf hurts it immensly, and Thunderer just murders it. All the 50mm plating cruisers added removes a lot of your zoning power as well.

@@kai-xuanyao4666 Yep. I hate to say this but Soyuz so far has been the more superior experience. Heck, even my GK feels more usable due to shell volume alone.

@@kape2978 Yeah, Soyuz doesn't get the thicc citadel but your guns do so much more just cuz what you face in T9 is much easier to handle.

Petro isn't a Cruiser, it's another frankly absurd Soviet OP fantasy that's better than a lot of BBs.

@@steeltrap3800 Biggest asset imo aside from the tankiness is the reload. You don't have to rely on having unreliable guns at 28 seconds. Petro and Moskva can just angle and shoot shoot shoot. Kremlin on the other hand is just take take take damage and die with low impact. Best you can hope for are straight line sailing broadsiders, but even then I can bet any other BB can get a better salvo at any range.

Might be the same reason I do that on a number of my cruisers. Yoshino, zao, hindy, and Henri. Dfaa doesn't do much sure, but its more useful more often than hydro in ships that are range/kite type since its rare you'll be threatened by torps. Just my rational tho.

DDs can spam HE too. The low HE pen can be appeased by precisely hitting BB superstructures with DD dispersion.

@@user-yb6ih8tj3r thats true but if the enemy cruiser has radar, there is a cv, the options are getting less for bbs and dds, meanwhile cruiser have good aa conceal and speed. (ofc there are exceptions).

@@enricotraica3857 not for the russian or french don't care

Same haha. Cruisers are just a straight up better class and taking away deadeye only made BBs worse imo. The problem with BBs is that they burn too quickly compared to other ships

@@rawful502 I still say its less the fire that kills you then it is the HUNDREADS or THOUSANDS of HE pens on your superstructure, your hull armor just DOESNT FUCKING MATTER.

I mean look at what bbs and cruisers can do: Battleships, Best range, biggest guns (from tier 8 and up you can overmatch most cruisers which has 27mm plating), best damage per shell, best armor and torp protection, has heal, only some have any utility items beyond fighters/spotter plane, some have torpedos. Burns for 60 seconds without skills or upgrades. Cruisers: Best DPS for main guns, can get similar range to BBs, most have torpedos (unless your a US tech tree ship), has lots of utility items (hydro, def aa, radar), they also get fighters and spotter plane, get Heals at tier 9/10, not much torp protection, if you get point blank with a bb you can still citadel them (though you will probably torp them before then). Burns for 45 (or is it 30?) secs without skills or upgrades. On top of that you have battlecruisers which basically make for discount Battleships with more utility.

Not all cruisers play the same. Zao plays different from Alaska. But you can apply it, it won't be bad either.

Same here 👍

I've been playing Caracciolo and Gorizia in bronze ranked, needless to say HE spammers aren't so annoying once you slap them with SAP since none can heal at that tier. And BBs can push you just need to force your team to help, if they help you can win rather easily as enemy BBs will be hiding trying not to get spammed making your push easier since the only thing that truly poses a threat are DDs and they hate SAP more than cruisers do

Very true, but my counter is running Nelson with its super heal. While it cannot take an entire team focusing it, no ship really can, I can still keep an HE spam cruiser or two distracted as they love to shoot at that big ship and power heal out of the fires/dmg when I can. If they are shooting me they friendly ships have a better chance to keep their health a while longer. I really only play ranked for the rewards but I am having a lot of luck getting wins like this.

Ranked out with Sinop yesterday. HE spam is not a problem in bronze.

@@stefanocrosazzo3262 nurnberg, myoko, york, atlanta, boise, 9 de julio, helena, flint. the last game i played had a cv, 3 t7 cruisers, 1 t6 dd and the rest were bbs. those cruisers were atlanta, atlanta b, and 9 de julio.... i think i survived 7 minutes. i received no carrier damage, and only one shot from scharnhorst.

Yes it can 👍

I must say, I have an easier life with cruisers from t9 on. T9 is mostly T9 games. I struggle hard from t6 up. Constantly uptiered and no range

Seattle's pretty bad, but Ibuki is just cruisers 101 imho.

I feel like t9 is the worst tier. No better than T8 sometimes worse and often matches with t10.

@@rosalina2938 Well, T9 cruisers finally all get a heal, and they see far fewer guns with 30 mm overmatch than T10 cruisers do. I'd say it's a pretty comfortable tier.

Don’t fight against ships with 457mm and above guns. They pretty much citadel you easily but otherwise very good

hmmm impressive numbers.

You sit in max range spaming he an torping and ap is decent

It's the same except slightly worse turret arrangement for kiting.

I have Yoshino with 1, 4 million exp. It's a great ship. To put it simply its just a bigger Zao. You have 20km Shima torps(don't expect them to hit anything coz they can be seen from the moon) and the guns are soooo damn accurate. Hitting 7 out of 9 shells from max range with spot plane is great when it occurs. You don't have good armor for your size though. And never show broadside. People love shooting at you.

@@petrosmarko3092 as a bb player in Republic, Yamato. I love to slap Yoshino from max range either hahahah.

@@petrosmarko3092 btw, I have Yoshino too. And she is a really great ship as you said.

Petro isn't a Cruiser, it's another frankly absurd Soviet OP fantasy that's better than a lot of BBs.

@@steeltrap3800 that i can agree haha

@@kuninagako9035 ;-P

Atlanta is fun in T6-7 ranked, not in random - it is situational ship now

@@siriusczech It was situational before, but they nerfed the crap out of it... just one of so many issues that resulted in me deleting the game. There was zero need to do it and it took a ship that was fin to play and trashed it... WG can KMA

Nice Video PQ. Keep up the good work

His point is you're wrong buddy. He specifically played Zao because it's weak and did fine. With DM, he'd do better. If you can't carry more with DM, it means you're not good enough. It has nothing to do with petro.

@@dzello is this where i tell you youre wrong about me being wrong? You missed my point entirely. Just telling someone 'if you cant carry more than ur playing it wrong' is ignorant without knowing who youre talking to. My point was that the meta is changing, giving certain ships an advantage and others disadvantage. I do very good in my des moines (65 percent winrate, only solo plays). Shame i have to waste time on such a comment.

@@austinpowersfasjer I mean, your point is strictly stupid. '' I find that it lacks ability to really carry games '' in one of the weakest acknowledged cruisers where you have 60% winrate. This is plenty of carrying. Then you talk about DM which you say carries even better than Zao in which you have 60%. So now, not only are you saying Zao does fine, you're saying Zao does fine and DM does better. And finally, you finish saying Petro is even better than both the cruisers you already carry way more than enough in. So your point is, and I would underline that, stupid. You prove Potato's point while trying to prove it's incomplete.

12km torps on a floating citadel isn't that good... Also reload is gigantic

@@kai-xuanyao4666 i know that the reload is bad but you know that u just have to go undetected and just leave your torps and zao torps have the best range only defeated by the 20km torps on yoshino. i feel comfortable with zao's citadel . the trick is to never be facing the shells that coming towards you and just stay angled at around 15-30 deg which will avoid most incoming damage.

@@codev2880 Getting off 12km torps with 10km concealment when there are DDs around is super tough. In the late game when there's no DDs I can't shake the feeling that you'll do more with your guns than sailing undetected into torp range and dropping them. They are great torps, don't get me wrong, but very situational and not really worth going out on a limb to make them work.

@@kai-xuanyao4666 absolutely. i agree with you .