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Current Rolex Money Makers Vs. Models to AVOID - How Much We Pay (GMT-Master II, Explorer, Day-Date) 

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UK watch dealer reveals how much they pay for Rolex watches, in particular, the Explorer, GMT-Master and Day-Date models. We discuss which models you can buy brand new and then sell on for a profit. We also cover the specific models within each range that watch dealers will buy for under the retail price. #rolex #watches #watchdealer #luxurywatches
0:00 Video Trailer
0:37 Introduction to buy or pass
1:04 Explorer
2:52 Explorer II
4:42 GMT-Master II
12:46 Day-Date
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Watchtrader & Co are an established family owned business with a boutique store based in Newcastle upon Tyne and a client base UK wide. They also have partner stores in London so you can buy, sell or upgrade your watch in a location that is convenient for you. With years of experience in the trade, they stock an impressive range of the hottest timepieces from leading luxury brands such as Audemars Piguet, Rolex, Patek Philippe, Richard Mille, Cartier, Tudor and more.

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Комментарии : 170   
@michaelfierman3256
@michaelfierman3256 Год назад
Always really good info and provided with fun. Love the midweek episodes along with Sunday of COURSE. Cheers
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Great to see you in the comments and always happy to hear you’re enjoying the content
@Andy-wp6lj
@Andy-wp6lj Год назад
What’s this midweek content, love it lads. Every Sunday’s video is always eagerly awaited. Thanks
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Legend, thanks for tuning in Andy
@f1watcher445
@f1watcher445 Год назад
Excellent overview of the current market. I really enjoy these....keep em coming!! Thanks!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Really pleased to read that. Thanks for letting us know
@arnoldjenkins5455
@arnoldjenkins5455 Год назад
Todays lemons are tomorrows paul newmans
@chadbailey7038
@chadbailey7038 Год назад
Very good point 👏🏾
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Any specific model perfections? Thanks for tuning in!
@namelessrace9803
@namelessrace9803 Год назад
​@@Watchtraderexplorer II polar and deepsea James Cameron is a future "Newman" classic 💯
@TheTRULYTALENTED
@TheTRULYTALENTED Год назад
Great point.
@suds782
@suds782 Год назад
Very likely tomorrows rotten lemons 🍋
@CaptainBloke513
@CaptainBloke513 Год назад
Love the transparency, keep up the good content guys
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks a lot for tuning in!
@tombyrne777
@tombyrne777 11 месяцев назад
Hi Guys, great knowledge and insight, I have learned a lot from you. When are you doing part 3? Keep up the good work
@andrewgill1749
@andrewgill1749 Год назад
Good stuff lads, looking forward to part 3 👍
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Coming soon 👌
@kevinjohnson4534
@kevinjohnson4534 Год назад
Well done again lads, really appreciate your hard work and time, Keep up the great work 👍🏿🎉💯
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Really pleased to read that. Thanks for letting us know
@Nosecone
@Nosecone Год назад
Fascinating and so interesting to hear your thoughts, as we can all see the watch market changing from the madness that went before! As always great presentation guys! Looking forward to part 3! Brilliant stuff! 👍🏽
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Really appreciate the feedback, helps us improve and bring you guys better content going forward.
@TVSteveHarris
@TVSteveHarris 11 месяцев назад
Great content guys please keep it coming 🙏
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for tuning in
@TICafeRacer
@TICafeRacer Год назад
Great video!! Nice to hear your thoughts on the GMTs. Thanks for doing this. It looks as though both Josh and John are wearing the Root Beer. One of my favorites. Very interesting comments on the other watches and values. Always very helpful.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Glad this video was of value to you. Always appreciate the feedback
@ianmanfren1003
@ianmanfren1003 Год назад
Great mid week video, cheers fellas
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks a lot Ian 🙏
@7up113
@7up113 Год назад
Great video, with just the right amount of detail. Any thoughts on the DD40 228239 w the meteorite dial. The GMT version gets talked about the most, but not so much the DD one
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks - it’s a watch that we buy under list and it sells for a little over
@tommygunner9
@tommygunner9 Год назад
Alreet lads, could u explain “on consignment” please. Great video with very good content 👍👍
@321dilraj
@321dilraj Год назад
John is amazing to listen to. His charisma is unparalleled. he could be saying anything to me and I will buy what he says
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Appreciate the kind words
@james6048
@james6048 Год назад
Brilliant format
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks for letting us know
@KC14109
@KC14109 Год назад
Loved the content again guys. Keep up the great work. I was lucky to purchase a Explorer ll white dial a few months ago at my Boutique. Would never sell it but nice to know theres profit there if needed.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Great choice on Explorer II, we hope it serves you well. Thanks for the feedback
@bmtliyou
@bmtliyou Год назад
Love this episode 👍🏻👍🏻
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks for the feedback
@gavinsverdloff4291
@gavinsverdloff4291 Год назад
For the last forty years, I always purchased unworn Rolex ⌚️ watches from the Grey Market that I liked in precious metal. I won’t be changing my habits. 🙏
@comeonman7423
@comeonman7423 Год назад
Thanks again guys, fantastic content.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
We appreciate the feedback, cheers
@Rado_TV
@Rado_TV Год назад
Super informative keep it up🤙👌🇵🇱
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
More to come!
@Rado_TV
@Rado_TV Год назад
@@Watchtrader yeeeee🤙👏👏👏👏👌
@domflint1863
@domflint1863 Год назад
Met Hendo the other day in Sandyford. What a bloke talked to me like I had known him for years. What a guy.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Spotted in the wild haha - thanks for watching!
@knicks99
@knicks99 10 месяцев назад
Great video. How do you think the meteorite GMT will fare over the next few years?
@iannicholson2309
@iannicholson2309 Год назад
Harry you are really coming on with presenting here well done, good crack guys 👍
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks a lot Ian 👊
@jayti2213
@jayti2213 Год назад
You both pronounce „Eisenkiesel“ perfectly. Greetings from Hamburg
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Brilliant, at least we got that one right 🙏Thanks for letting us know, hope you enjoyed the video!
@BAF605
@BAF605 Год назад
Very good info and I'd say fair warning. Two years ago as Jon and Stuart say many Rolex models were selling way above retail, far fewer now. I know you guys trade to make money in every market (it's in the name after all 😊) but Josh's favourite strap line at the height of the madness was "You can't go wrong" and that was the message across the whole grey market so I'm not making a personal dig. Clearly many did. Any comments in hindsight?? I enjoy your content so please don't take this as an attack. Just interested in how you view things looking back and have you modified your plans looking forward??
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Great comment, the response requires some context as to which watch models we’re referring to. If we’re mainly talking about Rolex sports models in steel, if you look at the value over a long period of time, history has shown that they tend to appreciate. We may revisit this topic in a future video. Thanks for watching as always
@richukny
@richukny 11 месяцев назад
Do you have a view on the Rainbow Day Date 36?
@rogerparis
@rogerparis Год назад
Great content!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Appreciate it
@nickyw5199
@nickyw5199 Год назад
Lovely info, very interesting! For the day-date 40, 2023, would the yellow gold green face be a better choice than the rose gold chocolate? And would you buy both over list at present?
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks, gold, green dial sells more at this moment, it’s newer and there are less in the market. Yes we offer over list for the yellow gold, green
@thedeeprot
@thedeeprot Год назад
Really want to start buying and selling watches
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Could be time to get started. Thanks for watching
@tahirmehmood1670
@tahirmehmood1670 Год назад
Nice video, shall I say no to steel datejust?
@Greggieboy76
@Greggieboy76 Год назад
Great vid as always chaps. John really has his finger on the pulse of the market, Stu is always v impressive and Harry you are just a ledge. Josh I love you and your Ombre Nomade too, but you weren't on the vid! All in all, different class as a team!! See you soon fellas!! x
@iannicholson2309
@iannicholson2309 Год назад
Oi oi bruv
@Greggieboy76
@Greggieboy76 Год назад
@@iannicholson2309 ❤️
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Far too kind but much appreciated. Thanks for tuning in as always and see you soon!
@mahmoudghoneim8004
@mahmoudghoneim8004 Год назад
I see markups are on the high side based on the current market conditions.
@ph1lo
@ph1lo Год назад
Great content! Has anyone ever thought it would be nice to have the inner clasp, the side that touches your wrist, in matte? The polished part that sits on your wrist can get a bit tacky but I think its meant to grip the wrist? ❤
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thank you - can’t say we’ve had that request before but you might be right about the polish for grip
@david.9633
@david.9633 Год назад
Nice episode 👏
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Glad you liked it
@Starnberger01
@Starnberger01 10 месяцев назад
What about the Datejust Models?
@pinikpikantv3555
@pinikpikantv3555 Год назад
I am watching these wearing an SKX007J. Been a collector for a while and I am somewhat dreaming. I love diver’s watch most of all time pieces aside from speedtimers. I am looking to have my first rolex and from what I see, the once I like have the least investment possibility.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Buy the one you like first and foremost - it’s a luxury purchase. Holding or appreciating in value is a bonus.
@jjdente7666
@jjdente7666 Год назад
where are you seeing prices for 40mm gold day dates under msrp for a few years old ? Cheapest I can find is msrp on a gold Champaign dial.
@bobbydazzler1780
@bobbydazzler1780 Год назад
A couple of thoughts - notice how this purchasing advice is all about a brand new watch. There is no talk of what’s being offered for older worn pieces. Plus, buy a watch from a Rolex AD and immediately flip it into the grey market for profit… if Rolex find out, and they do, that’s you blacklisted from their system forever. So if you’re going this route make sure it’s a banger!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Yes, that’s right we’re talking about brand new 2023 pieces in this video. We take care to keep watch details private. Thanks for the feedback!
@venicebeach1986
@venicebeach1986 Год назад
What about a DJ41 rolesor in everose and Wimbledon?
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
We covered the Datejust Model in part 1 about 2 weeks ago - check it out on the channel 🙏
@georgehiggins3103
@georgehiggins3103 Год назад
Have yous been drinking newcastle brown ale. LOL Upload-mid week. I always enjoye all your content!!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
😂 Wey aye! Thanks for tuning in
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky Год назад
Great video. I'm surprised the 40mm white gold / blue face Day Date isn't more. Seems like they were going at a big premium not long ago.
@vladansretenovic1952
@vladansretenovic1952 Год назад
Like everything pure speculation, just few months ago they were advising on DD as the good buy and fair price having in mind precious materials case, and now its the watch that is not for stocklist...
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
White gold isn’t usually as popular as yellow and rose models - it costs more RRP and it isn’t easily distinguishable from steel to the untrained eye. That’s a plus for some and a negative for others…
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky Год назад
@@Watchtrader Don't you mean isn't easily distinguishable to the untrained eye?
@vladansretenovic1952
@vladansretenovic1952 Год назад
@@Watchtrader Reasonable, but how come DD40 Olive white gold was just few months ago one of the hottest in the range and now its RRP range? Its just build up hype and what I am trying to explain why these kind of videos are not fair, they are giving advice based on the current hype which changes in 3,4 months periods of time. Its just not quality and fair advice for anyone who is thinking long term, but anyway buy the watch you like not the watch you will flip. 😊
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Yes, this video is based on the current market prices and what we are buying and selling for at present. We are only giving examples and not advising anybody to do anything. Regarding the white gold olive dial Day-Date, as with any watch, the price is driven by supply and demand. These watches are a luxury purchase and it’s personal preference regarding which model to buy or not.
@SurroundSoundDolby
@SurroundSoundDolby Год назад
No mention of the Rolex Day-Date 40 in White Gold with fluted bezel and diamond baguette hour markers. Black or Silver dial.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Noted, maybe next time, we can’t cover every single configuration each time but thanks for the feedback!
@retard22
@retard22 Год назад
ty guys
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks for tuning in
@Paul92kent
@Paul92kent Год назад
Would be interesting for a view on the Subs… the Bluesy?
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Hey, we covered the Submariner in part 1 about 2 weeks ago. Check it out on the channel 👌
@FLFC77
@FLFC77 Год назад
You offered me £2500 for the brand new 2023 black bay burgundy on jubilee 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Bradford41350
@Bradford41350 Год назад
They trade for just 3,630. Can be massively surprised ?
@Bradford41350
@Bradford41350 Год назад
I was offered £2,500 for a omega seamaster 2021 grey dial when I purchased a rose gold Daytona on oyster flex. They trade for £5,500 new and 4,000k used. Now that’s a con!
@Bradford41350
@Bradford41350 Год назад
Of course went elsewhere
@michaelanderson196
@michaelanderson196 Год назад
Do you still have it?
@a004
@a004 Год назад
1500 profit on a 6k explorer? Wow those are crazy margins
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
We don’t make £1500 profit, we might discuss this on a future video if there is interest
@KC14109
@KC14109 Год назад
Obviously they don't make that. So many don't know how a business runs. Imagine all the costs involved in a brick and mortar store.
@adityadesai8264
@adityadesai8264 Год назад
Good you’ll didn’t talk of the Daytonas - steel and oysterflex. Probably blind buys across the range. Would’ve been good to get an update on market price though
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Hey, we covered the Daytona model in part 1 about 2 weeks ago - check it out on the channel 👌
@eduardlast23
@eduardlast23 Год назад
Eisenksiel is My grail day date i could probably get into it but its too much to wear daily for me at least
@wenmarketingsir
@wenmarketingsir Год назад
Pepsi new 2023 with jubilee at €18.700? (conversion from GBP).. Can't find one in Europe below 21k with everything in place
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
European prices can be quite strong compared to the UK watch market
@michaelllewellyn5826
@michaelllewellyn5826 Год назад
The buyer on the left. Every time he talks it seems like he's trying to rip people off. I'd definitely steer clear of him. The one on the right seems alot nicer to deal with 😂😂
@Bradford41350
@Bradford41350 Год назад
Yeah wheeler dealer.
@donndee3587
@donndee3587 Год назад
Yup I would refuse to deal with the big lad
@michaelllewellyn5826
@michaelllewellyn5826 Год назад
@@donndee3587 same here pal I've watched loads of their videos and I thought the same thing every time he comes on
@jerrywallop5647
@jerrywallop5647 Год назад
Book & cover …….grow up , pathetic……
@Watchgeek12345
@Watchgeek12345 Год назад
Definitely seems to hate his job , not a bit of crack or enthusiasm from him , defo wouldn’t want to be dealing with him
@zinzander2978
@zinzander2978 10 месяцев назад
It interesting but I also really dislike this aspect of watch collecting. For me you should buy watches you love and invest money in compounding assets. If I’m Buying a watch since someone says it might go up in value there is no love or joy in it. It isn’t a hobby then it is just straight consumerism.
@KingLe0nidas07
@KingLe0nidas07 11 месяцев назад
do you have any stores in the US? Have a sprite jubilee unworn and a oyster pepsi unworn. Looking to sell.
@rodmikhail7226
@rodmikhail7226 Год назад
What watch is Stuart wearing? Cant seem to figure it out!
@james6048
@james6048 Год назад
A lange
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
That’s right - A. Lange & Sohne Langematik Perpetual Calendar Platinum
@rodmikhail7226
@rodmikhail7226 Год назад
@@Watchtrader fuck me, I need to urgently change my career to be a grey dealer it seems. Solid choice though, pure class. Platinum too... The margins you guys make must be astronomical ha
@linuxpenguins
@linuxpenguins Год назад
Blue Sky Dweller is still the most highly desired Rolex to obtain at AD.. impossible almost to buy it seems!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
The steel Daytona is arguably more difficult to obtain
@MrGeoffMorgan
@MrGeoffMorgan Год назад
Just want to say "Very watch-able" = Dad joke Watch Wednesdays..... EXCELLENT👌
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
😂 haha love it
@jokeassasin7733
@jokeassasin7733 Год назад
For me only jubilee bracelets look good in bi metal.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
It does give them some extra pop
@jeeves951
@jeeves951 Год назад
👍
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
👍
@bobbydazzler1780
@bobbydazzler1780 Год назад
Market value minus 30% seems to be their operating margin, less for consignment.
@bobbydazzler1780
@bobbydazzler1780 Год назад
So take market, subtract 30% now subtract list. Positive number it’s a buy. Negative number it’s a pass.
@suds782
@suds782 Год назад
£11k for rolex explorer 2 😮… I am bidding on one at Sotheby’s auction for £6k .. perhaps it would go up a tad bit but definitely not £11k
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Is it 2023 unworn?
@suds782
@suds782 Год назад
@@Watchtrader nope it’s 2020 slightly used .. but why would someone pay and take the depreciation if it proves that over 2 years prices have literally halved from new .. proves not an investment piece and secondary market prices need to fall more.. Also proves Rolexes are not an investment anymore in general
@tromboostofficial
@tromboostofficial Год назад
For specific models this is not true ! GMT white gold is a solid investment! You will see in the future.
@Madeinlondon67
@Madeinlondon67 Год назад
He’s completely wrong about the GMT root beer at the moment. There are so many on eBay. Kettle Kids had a 2023 a few weeks ago for £16,500
@bobbydazzler8620
@bobbydazzler8620 Год назад
Another top drawer video in this trilogy Finally we can purchase Rolex now that the flippers have moved on.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Much appreciate the feedback - glad you liked it 👊
@user-mk3pu3tt7i
@user-mk3pu3tt7i Год назад
How much would u pay for a 2022 dd36 eisenkisel box n papers
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Please use the ‘Sell’ page on our website and we’ll send you an offer
@ElGwapo1927
@ElGwapo1927 Год назад
Love these videos but Stu, its "specific" not "pacific" :)
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
🌊🌊🌊
@Dope179
@Dope179 Год назад
what watch would you guys recomend me buying right now for market as a long term investment?
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
First and foremost, watches are a luxury purchase - based on historic trends, steel sports Rolex tend to perform the best
@Dope179
@Dope179 Год назад
@@Watchtrader okay, and do you think it is worth it to invest in a watch like that now or do you think the watch bubble has exploded and they wont go up again?
@Consiousobserver
@Consiousobserver 10 месяцев назад
And this ladies and gentlemen is why the watch market is FXKED for legitimate collector like me
@donndee3587
@donndee3587 Год назад
When’s part 3?
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
We’re working on it now, soon don’t worry
@CharlesBLim
@CharlesBLim Год назад
Perceived value (watch) vs Real Value (gold) i'd rather go for GOLD. but if you are a die-hard collector or watch affecionados then you can't go wrong investing on these watches.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Thanks for tuning in
@lukecoupland3740
@lukecoupland3740 Год назад
10 grand for that 2 tone explorer, Rolex are violating
@liamtalbot7801
@liamtalbot7801 Год назад
Nothing against watchtrader or the lads, but this is everything wrong with the current market you should buy whichever model you want to keep and cherish or just like, not just to buy it and flip it for a profit
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Fair comment, maybe in an ideal world. The reality is that the brands engineer the current situation as it benefits them. Hope you found this video entertaining anyways.
@liamtalbot7801
@liamtalbot7801 Год назад
@@Watchtrader absolutely and Rolex do it better than anybody, enjoyed the content as usual (gent on the right, I only know of John) which dress watch is he wearing on this video it looks great
@Bradford41350
@Bradford41350 Год назад
Totally agree with this comment. I bought a 126333 with silver baton and two tone gold fluted recently. Yes the Wimbledon dial is more ‘desirable’ and the steel only models but I don’t like them as much.
@dbgo5775
@dbgo5775 Год назад
@@liamtalbot7801 A. Lange & Söhne
@VoVa-mb6pb
@VoVa-mb6pb 11 месяцев назад
Im happy to sell you the yellow gold 40 mm with green dial
@Tunsgate123
@Tunsgate123 Год назад
Anything over list is not good value. Good value is when u buy under list
@NeoWahNah
@NeoWahNah Год назад
1. I didn't hear the word "Investment" in this video. Hmmmm..... 2. The margins are WoW! 3. Watch market is ........ 🤣
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
When did you last hear the word investment in our videos?
@NeoWahNah
@NeoWahNah Год назад
Oh and you just clipped and dropped a short. 🤣
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Glad you love it - thanks for watching 🙂
@gavinsverdloff4291
@gavinsverdloff4291 Год назад
I have never lost money on a a Rolex watch I purchased from the Grey Market. 🙏
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
Glad to hear it and thanks for watching
@johnscott4693
@johnscott4693 Год назад
Excellent. It’s so obvious you’re a reputable company, with 3 or 4 salesmen always on duty, plenty of stock, honest about prices and what you can get in and sell etc. The other guy from Skipton is such a fraud - tiny shop, all counters no watches. Plus he talks in hypotheticals all the time and his company is obviously a one man band turning over pennies. “All fur coat and no knickers” as we used to say in Cullercoats! (… and Whitely Bay 🎶) if you know, you know.
@TheTRULYTALENTED
@TheTRULYTALENTED Год назад
Hustlers recognize other Hustlers...and they are hustling the seller with these prices they buy at.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Год назад
We appreciate your opinion.
@supermarioxs1
@supermarioxs1 11 месяцев назад
BS to all of them …
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