Cyberpunk 2077 | Ray Tracing: Overdrive Mode - 4K Technology Preview Reveal 

in 2077 games will definitely look like real life lol. Just 30 years ago games were 2d pixelated cartoons and 40 years ago there was no such technology as the Internet.

Gamers have had it easy in terms of progression. When Crisis was new, you were lucky to run that game at anything considered decent FPS. There is a time when you simply will need new HW to run certain FPS or settings. That's just how it goes

@@michaelblue4619 they do look like real life today too tbh

No. 2077 the World get over. U have forget what Fallout 4 say?

Good showcase of the tech I like this, remind me of Crysis it was jaw dropping back then.

Yeah, I thought it would be a long time before we saw any modern game with it, much less the most demanding in recent memory.

Ha you lucky i will probably get 1 frame per 55 seconds wiyh my geforce 210 and i3 2100 with dddr3 brah

@@daveakilan 😂

@@ckhatton you laughing at my suffering wait till i get a new oc 4070 13600k ddr5 heheh (hopefully it all goes great) and i dont get scammed from nvidia plus in indja i need to pay 18 percent more as tax because india is garbage im poor

It isn't. It's still fake tracing under the hood. It's also not real time as both technologies, Raytracing and Frame Generation, add lag to the frame times.

you can enable the old RT in the game even with new RT?

@@McLeonVP Yes, unless Nvidia decides to be a d*ck once more

@4K 60FPS i think they were talking about future proofing the game, not the GPUs themselves since yeah

most gamers don't revisit old games once you are done playing.

Uhh taiwan is the reason for this and china wanna invading them. What's 2030?

GeForce NOW has an RTX 4080 tier and is how I can afford it.

@@playcloudpluspc U need a goog internet connection for it :) So i havent :D

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@@FreakySponge hello Nvidia salesman

Been using geforce now 4080 and 3080 before that. I play at 1440p 120fps max out all i can..I get 8ms latency to my 4080 sever in London. =) Currently playing Warhammer Darktide.

It isn't. It's still fake tracing under the hood. It's also still lower performance no matter what hardware you use as both technologies, Raytracing and Frame Generation, add lag to the frame times.

@@BlankFX Where are you getting this info? Nvidia claim its true path tracing. How do you know it isn't?

Dude, where i am from a gaming laptop with rtx 3060 10th gen cpu full hd goes for $1500 to $2000 currently. These guys are talking 4090, next thing you know it’s 5090, that’s insane. People can’t change their hardware every year

@@GeorgioSubs I am excited to see full path tracing finally but he isnt wrong. The argument can be made that none of the generated frames are technically path traced or even rendered at all as they are "fake". But as far as fake-tracing goes, they are doing full path tracing but ray counts are severely limited still to a point where its an accumulation of samples over multiple frames which fills out the lighting model. Reflections are a different story entirely though.

@@sp0rkay well you’re always going to have some limit on the number of rays. It will never be “infinite”. Of the rendered frames, even with however limited the rays and light sources are, how do you know they aren’t using a path tracing algorithm?

Full res reflections are one big thing

You are right, Metro Exodus's Enhanced Edition was a big change.

@@professorclup1082 I’ve been replaying metro, that thing looks noice!

This. I also think this when they show you the comparison of no DLSS vs DLSS3 instead of DLSS 2 vs DLSS 3

@@n.erdbeer That's funny cause in this video shows reflections of a building in water blurry and not as sharp

Wow! Now I feel special! Could the other 4 people in the world please contact me. We should form a elite club.

@@ther3alkrino191 you are the 0.2%

@@ther3alkrino191 Will there be snacks?

Try diluting that salt, because the correct take is - Glad that this is available in the game so I can enjoy it in the future with even better visuals

@Jim 1.869€

What you are seeing here is considered as the "holy grail" of computer graphics. There is no greater method for calculating lightning

good take

@@Navhkrin yet , they'll make one to sell more GPUs

@@lukky6648 What do you mean? Ray tracing/Path tracing have been around for many decades, initially only in concept. Nvidia has nothing to do with "making one", they are just helping us progress into the age where such techniques can be done in real time to some extent. That's well enough to sell more GPUs, it's REALLY impressive. And if the future generations simply accelerate this further, that's a great reason to buy them, yeah.

I still can't run run Crysis on High

When it costs the same or more as today's 4090

MANDATORY WITH DLSS ONLY

When you got the 4090,you never wait it

@@635574 *the MSRT will likely be $3000 for 70 class gpu by then. god I hope I'm wrong and this doesn't come to bite me in the future.*

6070 will be a 40 class silicon die, and have one third the bandwidth of the previous generation if Nvidia follows the current tech scaling trend, only thing that will increase is the fake frames in DLSS5..

what about 4080 and 4070? also you dont need to play at 4k like a normie

lol xD

you mean 150,000 plus?

Thanks Mate

@@lilpain1997 150 000 plus is basically its not even comparable to "12 users" in a world wide scale lol ...

It's path tracing at 4K, don't know what you where expecting, it's actually a miracle that can be so fast

Cyberpunk is still a challenge for today's graphics, damn you're playing it at 4K with RayTracing in an open world where it has a lot of reflection zones without DLSS.

RT Overdrive : The reason You won't need that expensive 13900k/7950X(3D) anytime soon :D

​@Okabe Rintaro i work in the archviz industry and all my images are path traced. Even with cutting edge PC, 4k images (1 frame) it takes sometimes more than an hour to get done, with low noise, of course.

"just get a better PC"

Without you meant? Or the copium tea made you a little dizzy?

@@AeroUNO1 yeah, i meant without, i dont even know how tf did i screw it up lmao.

looks bad

@@theloniuspunk383 then what looks good for you lmao

@@Nick-nf1kd Probably some pixelated 90's game which in his mind it's the pinnacle of realism, or underground 2, or stuff like that.

dlss3 is even worse because 'frame generation' adds input lag, funny how nvidia doesn't tell you that though, no pc gamer wants input lag in their games, if the idea that you can change one setting and instantly get 100 extra frames sounds too good to be true... its because it is. More nividia scam tech

@@fwef7445 I've tried it in a couple games and it's really not noticeable imo.

Wait for the glorious 1080p input res and 30fps real fps on 4090 to manage "4K" "60fps"

​@@DRKeerlme here mate. I have used DLSS3 on few games myself on my 4090. The guy above is just spamming the same sh*r everywhere. Guess he has never played any game with DLSS3 himself 😂

​@@fwef7445 but have you tried it?

METRO DID IT 2 YEARS AGO!

​@Toni um no, metro did not do this level of path tracing.

With a 3080 you can play at max settings with RT on at 1440p, still look glorious. Imho 4k hi framerates w RT is reserved for those who have the disposable income. Personally I was happy to play Cyberpunk @1080p over 60fps with max settings RT off, still looks awesome, until I was able to get my hands on a last run EVGA 3080 FTW ultra.

@@kriscastner2010 games defi Italy a stunner even on consoles.

​@@kriscastner2010with this new path tracing you won't be running this not even at 1080p. Check those 12fps the 4090 gets without DLSS3. And divide that by half and those are going to be your framerates with your 3080 at 4k

you mean fake upscaled 4k with added input lag from frame generation. Another fooled customer

@@fwef7445 It works very well in Cyberpunk. Input lag is not an issue, Nvidia Reflex takes care of that. Of course I wouldn't use frame generation in a multiplayer game but I don't play those on max settings anyway. There is a reason AMD is trying to develop a similar solution.

@@yyperi Thank you for being reasonable. Nvidia have been quietly improving the latency reduction since the launch of DLSS3, exactly as predicted (similar to how they steadily worked on DLSS to get it to where it is today).

​@f wef upscaled 4K is... still 4k. The same number of pixels are being sent to your eyes via your screen. As for the lag, no-one would notice. It's a single player game. Stop being a dumbass.

​@Illuminaughty I was hopeful that it wouldnt be noticable. But just like UE4, you can tell exactly which game is Unreal or not. Every single one of thrm has that exact same specific type of rendering 😢

especially when characters T-Pose

Funny, I think it's really ugly, RT on or off.

Why do you need native though

@@MrBloodySpirit Because i hate fake frames ofc :)

@@mekabirb3688 I don't think you can tell the difference though

​@@mekabirb3688 if you can't find which one is fake and which one is real then what is the point ? . How do you know even the native is real in first place ?

@@squidscrew1339 it increases latency, since the game is sunning slower in the background

1650 gang, we 40fps in this mf

Your 1650 will probably explode if you try this.

@@BibiBubuish my 3080Ti will probably explode if i try this. i really REALLY hope they somehow bring something comparable to 30 series cards. i guess that's what i deserve for being an early adopter and NVIDIA fan. smh

@@Klovar your 3080ti didn’t explode already playing Diablo 4?

@@Klovar Same here with a 3080Ti We really thought we were safe with the second gen huh?

what screen or monitor are you watching this from ?

@@steviewonderzaful a phone with low data usage, most likely.

Get a life

@@steviewonderzaful I was joking lol

@@ElcoolMo so you have a 4k curved 65"

Tbh Path tracing are main problem. I do not know if i will be able to run it with 3090. Because i had problems in portal rtx😊

Give it a couple years

It's the top of the line consumer gpu on the planet. It was never going to be cheap, or affordable. Especially since AMD gave up trying to compete against it.

Then buy an amd card or a 4070 since that will have 12gb vram. The 4060 and 4060 ti users are getting the shaft with 8gb vram this gen

@@trevorcobb4108 AMD can't handle this much ray tracing LOL

@@ugurinanc5177 nor the 12gb vram

Path tracing won't require heaps of extra VRAM

Dlss significantly reduces the vram usage

For amd the same path is 2x longer, so amd users usually care about such advancements for longer.

Yes... 60 series will be able to run Path Tracing with no issues. 50 series will perfect standard Ray Tracing... and only the high end models will run Path Tracing.

@@blogps3experts Who knows, UE5 reportedly does lumen on current gen consoles about as well as dedicated HW ray tracing,minus a few errors handling reflections. We could be there in as few as 3-4 yrs

@@kunalshrivastava6398 Bruh don't even compare software Lumen to this. It's not even in the same world of accurate light simulation.

2011? You mean 2009, with Dirt 2 and Stalker and Call of Prypiat. And even Metro 2033 in 2010.

I don’t know dude, perhaps at 30fps. Frame generation seems ginmicky to most people but when trying it in Cyberpunk it truly showed me how impressive this technology is.

An rtx 3090 can handle it bout 120 FPS

Both Overdrive RT and DLSS 3 won't be in the settings tab for 30 series... It's just a 4080 - 4090 thing.

My rtx 3080 maybe in 240p-480p with 23 frames like a movie :)

@@Yucci That's the idea. 30fps maybe 60fps with some tweaks. Less bounces of light or something like that.

I'm hoping also for 4K60 on 4080 :) Should be doable like when you compare today's benchmarks of 4080 vs 4090 with DLSS3 in CB2077 :)

I make less than minimum wage and I still managed to save up for a 4090. It's not as crazy of a price as everyone acts like it is. Lots of people buy cars and that's way more of a huge expense.

it's impressive that it can run that fast in real time. A while ago we could only watch pictures that are rendered with path tracing.

with an insane price none of their other products have a decent amount of vram, it's really break the bank or don't bother with their products.

And the only one you should bother buying. Every generation just buy the highest priced GPU. That's what I always do too. Makes life easy. You don't really have to worry about performance, FPS, optimization 😂

7900xtx can do it. Dont worry 😄

@@anuzahyder7185 what no amd cards don't have rtx support

@Jim Knowing nvidia they knee cap your card by some driver update

@@lazyplayer1 AMD cards have RT support, that's all they need to shoot rays. "RTX" is a marketing name for Nvidia technologies. Usually it's used by Nvidia to refer to their technologies, like DLSS3. Sometimes that includes ray tracing, sometimes it doesn't.

What 30 fps. It's 16 fps.

Correct. Pathtracing is the fucking endgame for current 2D realtime rendering. Pathtracing running at ALL in realtime in a game was a goddamn fever dream just 5 years ago. And here we are with it in one of the most demanding games of all time. Yes it requires upscaling tech AND realtime frame interpolation to run higher than a slideshow but it is here. Goddamn, it feels like the 90s again when we were seeing a major leap in rendering tech or game design every year.

​@RicochetForce you mean current 3D rendering right? But yeah everything else spot on. Real time Path tracing is the final solution for illumination in real time graphics

@@The_Mashrur i mean, most parts of any game re still 2d. Leaves, floor, grass, characters (you can see they are empty inside), cloths are 2d, they don't even have collision and can go through legs and objects.

@@jasonstatham483 my man, we're not trying to recreate real life physics, collision detection and built materials from the ground up, atom by atoms. Gaming presentation, in general, only attempts mimicking it. As convincing as possible. And as efficiently as we could get away with. There's another field of work for that. Path tracing and Ray tracing only helps in lighting aspect, like how material surfaces should behave under designated condition. Just by that aspect alone, it would be a massive help for artists to realize their visions. Before ray/path tracing become a thing, we were limited to simulate that in enclosed environment using massive render farm, only then taking notes and trying to work around to achieve similar result given our previous limitation. That was why, to mention one of those work around examples, in early 3D games lighting was mostly achieved by illuminating certain part of textures, or straight up textures themselves. That same approach kept being used for so long, albeit at higher technical degree but basically the same thing. And that's just for achieving lighting for materials in gaming presentation, don't get me go to shadows and reflection... edit: words

@@rush21hit Wait, why'd you tell me all this as though i said something against it ? One dude said "current 2d rendering" other dude responded to him "you mean 3d" and i assumed that first dude probably meant, that current 3d is just a covered up 2d, because models of characters and objects are empty inside. Of course current cpus and gpus cannot achieve that kind of realism yet, when every character have their insights, guts, bones and veins. And when objects are not just a texture, but a real material, that obeys to physical laws. We need to wait another decade for this. By the way, having fully playable path tracing in a AAA open world game, that's a huge occasion for a gaming world.

@Jim this isn't true at all lmao, Cyberpunk runs great on modern GPUs, of course it's demanding with full blown path tracing LMAO

@Jim I've got a friend who plays it with a 10700f and 1660ti and it runs fine

​@Jim wrong lol

@Jim I mean cyberpunk actually is a very well optimized games for its graphical fidelity, especially if you turn on dlss and frame generation. In my setup, 4070ti + i5 13600kf, I run it on 1080p maxed out psycho ray tracing with dlss and frame generation enabled, I got around 150-190 fps. Now compared to other newest AAA games, like far cry 6 1080p maxed out I only get 100-130 fps, or sons of the forest 1080p maxed out only got 90-130 fps, or plague tale requiem 1080p maxed out only got 90-130 fps. I havent tried many games tho

legit there's better looking game than this shit

If you have a 3070.... then you are rich.

@@blogps3experts if hes rich then what special title do i get, i have a 3080

@@blogps3experts having any gaming GPU doesnt mean you're rich, you just poor as shit

A lot of people still have 1000 series GPUs like the popular GTX 1060... a lot of them are probably going to upgrade soon!

3070 has 8GB of ram, it's outdated already and was never a good value proposition. 4070 with 12GB is a joke in today's games and I can only imagine what it will be like in the future. We're finally getting some next gen games and it turns out PC gamers are really not prepared for that.

Same

you are not missing much unfortunately :(

You're in for a treat guys

@@JC-kl3uc I know 😎haters gonna say whatever but this game is going to look insane

Same. I got a 4090 in Feb and finally have something to push it with. The only games I’ve played on it so far are Civ 6 and D3😅

That’s a hot take. I don’t see most people Turing off all the effects to make the game look actively much worse. Most games are designed to look right with all of that on

More like it shows how poorly optimized "throw horsepower at it" is, when you choose that over "Let's make it look just as good without relegating it to Jeff Bezos's personal Monolith from 2001: A Space Odyssey".

It also goes a bit further than that - this is a marketing video and it's designed to maximize profits from an already released game that is now several years old. A game that heavily criticizes capitalism has to comply to the rules and structures of capitalism. Wonderful, isn't it?

Well being the Path Tracing was only for those with dedicated Path Tracing hardware for films and animation. Even then it would only be used on a scene by scene basis. Now that we have this in a dedicated GPU and still have to AI generate frames with upscaling

@@anusmcgee4150 please do explain how is this poorly optimized? This is state of the art lighting, something insane that few years back would be UNTHINKABLE. There are so many optimizations in place to make this happen. Denoiser algorithms. Shader Execution Reordering (To be added later) Opacity Micromaps DLSS2 Upscaling DLSS3 Frame Generation

@@TheDravic Doesn't change the fact that it requires insanely expensive hardware to run it with visuals that look only barely better than well done rasterization, ergo poorly optimized. Try again.

You can mod it on I'm pretty sure, though it's too much for this, maybe just at 1440p

If the 4090 was so powerful that can run cyberpunk with path tracing without aid of DLSS3 the card would be ultra hyper mega expensive

what are you talking about? The 4090 is one of the largest generational jumps ever. Dlss 3 is just a nice cherry on top that allows us to already experience technologies of the future (such as real time path tracing) right now.

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4090 hitting 17fps at max settings. Completely writes off every other GPU. Imagine the AI artefacting of multiple generated frames between the real ones. Eurgh.

@@mrpositronia 17 fps is at native. Using dlss 2 will then bring up the framerate significantly. And then frame generation is just another layer on top. I'd rather have some framegen artifacts (that are really tough to spot in actual motion) compared the the artifacts of attrocious rasterized lighting which you will constantly be starring at and that even a toddler can spot.

very organic comment

@@Shotgunkjell I'm not a bot if that's what you mean. I wish more people knew about GFN and were willing to give it a chance, that's why I made my channel what it is.

This just wastes performance and crysis was actually looking different

Now we waiting fot Crysis remastered Path Tracing Version xD

@@tonylazutto5794 Так и киберпанк в настоящий момент первая в мире игра с полностью реалистичным освещением. Это вполне себе одно из самых знаменательных событий за последние несколько десятилетий в гейминг индустрии.

@@jasonstatham483 первая была метро

@@tonylazutto5794 Это да, там и по сей день один из лучших графонов, и реализация лучей там реализована наилучшим образом. Но трассировка пути, это совершенно новый уровень, это прям вообще эндгейм, как микролед из мира дисплеев.

I think you're in luck here. Provided you can run the game at native resolution just to take some screenshots, I think that in RT Overdrive you might just be able to capture what you're talking about.

When we will have powerful enough hardware.

Not even at 1080p there is hope for 30 FPS?

Nice! I hope my 4080 manages 10 fps if the 4090 got 16 fps lololo

@@aaz1992 lol, i'm gonna play at 1080p with dlss

@@user-ti5ce4hg1o at 1080p I'm getting 150 fps at RT Ultra preset. 110 fps at 1440p. And 65fps at 4K. Frame gen doesn't do as much work at 4K as on lower resolutions

Check out Portal RTX as well, it's also completely path traced straight from the camera. You can turn off the de-noiser in the developer options to really see what it's doing. It's very cool.

​@@aaz1992 ya, I use only DLSS2 as my Epson Laser Projector's max resolution / framerate runs 1080p/60fps. I don't mind the 1080p, but I do wish I could have my projector setup run games at 120hz. Thankfully the RTX 4090 currently runs everything at max when it's set to 1080p/60fps, and chances are it will do the same with the overdrive mode when DLSS2 quality is set.

I have 4080 and I agree with you, that antenna in 2023...

@@artofox if you look closely, even texture work is mediocre, so are assets. These are much more important things to get right before thinking about path tracing. UE 5 Matrix tech demo with its lumen and nanite at work, was truly jaw dropping and ran on a peasant PS5 hardware, while this thing requires a 4090 and it's not even that great.

You meant, that it looks bad even with RT, because you know, low poly models, no shadows of little objects, 2d grass ...

@John "No one" is just you ? )

reasonable for you is like what 400? you expect the 4090 to come down to less then 1,000? The iphone 13 cost like 1200 dollars..

They are reasonable. You're just poor.

@@YvetteLevesque $1,600-$2,2000 for a GPU is reasonable now?

@@MrGenoboss I was referring to this feature not the 4090 dumb dumb. Learn to read.

@@grantusthighs9417 Yes

Too bad that they gatekeep dlss3 to only 4000 series, though. It should be a tool, not a crutch.

@@crabz4732 amd frame gen is coming

No, no it doesn't. It looks fucking bad, and the lighting doesn't make sense (the bottom of the stairs are getting the same amount of light at the top, despite them not being lit directly). There's also things like AO that doesn't work as well as pathtracing to properly shadow and ground objects in the scene.

Just wait 50 years from now to buy the 4090 for a cheap $1,999 💀💀💀

Dude Path Tracing was for a long time simply impossible because of how demanding it is. This is basically the first step to make that a reality and you always start somewhere. With DLSS and FG its possible to actually enjoy it with decent framerates which otherwise would make this tech not possible yet. I mean you can still wait a couple more years for it be run on native 4k.

@@SaithMasu12 True. Experiencing game at these high graphics will come at a expensive price 💰

@@SaithMasu12 I cant tell if trolling or not lmao but in case you're not, Lumen is a super Basic version of Ray-tracing baked in to UE5 and it looks way better than this.. just look at "unrecord" gameplay. This "Path Tracing" is clown tech made for clowns.

Nightcity is a great benchmark for this technology

Нет, злой!