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Cynthia Bailey 90s model era + why she rejected Russel Simmons proposal
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@KarineAlourde
@KarineAlourde 9 месяцев назад
“I have so much to be thankful for, and I take nothing for granted. This includes life itself.” -Cynthia Bailey.. watch “Kenya Moore: Her Painful Past Before Becoming a Real Housewife” NEXT ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q1E8dtQ28pM.html
@mik7564
@mik7564 9 месяцев назад
I will watch this, but I just finished the one on Pearle Bailey and I'm currently watching the one on Shelia Guyse, which inspired me to suggest if you could look into Sarah Vaughan and/or Dinah Washington? Sarah Vaughan was an iconic singer of her time. I am just writing it here to try to catch your eye since you just loaded this video 😂. Thanks!
@soniamunoz7
@soniamunoz7 9 месяцев назад
Make a review on Beverly Johnson 😊
@career5690
@career5690 9 месяцев назад
You spelled Russell wrong.
@Chocolatecherry291
@Chocolatecherry291 7 месяцев назад
I liked Kenya Moore ( the black barbie) before housewives. She was so evil, she really changed my opinion.
@AR-ft6yo
@AR-ft6yo 9 месяцев назад
I agree housewives takes away from the legacy. She is a classy woman but housewives can be ratchet at times
@chayo4537
@chayo4537 9 месяцев назад
It's called being multidimensional.
@sundaes_za
@sundaes_za 9 месяцев назад
And The Other Housewives Treated Her Terribly And Took Advantage Of Her Introvert And Kind Personality. They Picked On Her Quite A Bit.
@Branaymolly
@Branaymolly 9 месяцев назад
Naw Peter took away from her legacy 😂 glad she got rid of him I thought they were good together until we all found out what he really was doing behind her back 😂
@alluringbliss4165
@alluringbliss4165 9 месяцев назад
It’s degrading
@lovelysosweet8386
@lovelysosweet8386 9 месяцев назад
Amen!
@XiomaraThaGoddessMeow
@XiomaraThaGoddessMeow 9 месяцев назад
There were many people that didn’t know of her until the show….. and considering she did an amazing job at remaining classy throughout its entirety, I feel her true reputation is intact.
@Roundthewayrose
@Roundthewayrose 9 месяцев назад
It’s me I’m ppl! Didn’t know her until the show. Her reputation is still intact despite others going down being involved on the show. Love me some Cynthia
@career5690
@career5690 9 месяцев назад
@@RoundthewayroseSame here I didn’t know her too.
@bgcrp2005
@bgcrp2005 8 месяцев назад
She was a known model kinda Naomi knows hee
@threwthelookingglass2904
@threwthelookingglass2904 8 месяцев назад
Exactly because I didn’t know who she was until housewives, and she did remain classy!
@adaonwuzuruike5576
@adaonwuzuruike5576 9 месяцев назад
It appears, the older she got, the more beautiful she became.
@Lofilifer1
@Lofilifer1 9 месяцев назад
She’s so humble, I had no idea she was such a huge model to that extent! And she somehow looks different in every photo, that’s really cool.
@gloriacato7761
@gloriacato7761 9 месяцев назад
Does anyone remember the episode on Rhoa, when she announced she had dated RUSSELL SIMMONS? IF so, then you will remember when she,went to his office, AND HE REMEMBERED NONE OF THIS, HARDLY REMEMBERED HER. JUST SAYING
@bgcrp2005
@bgcrp2005 8 месяцев назад
What they dated he said they dated … what episode were u watchin
@browngoddess5340
@browngoddess5340 9 месяцев назад
I met Cynthia a few years ago. She is beautiful in person and was so sweet to take a picture.
@EvesGonnaEve
@EvesGonnaEve 9 месяцев назад
Cynthia was always gorgeous! Such a natural beauty! And I love how she remained classy on the housewives. They tried to call her boring bc she wasn't with the drama but she was always a class act! But yes I agree, she was bigger than the show.
@jaymin3844
@jaymin3844 9 месяцев назад
I agree she should stay away from the housewives series and do something else. She’s too beautiful and classy for reality tv.🖤
@Chocolatecherry291
@Chocolatecherry291 7 месяцев назад
She also has bills lol.
@errolmaloney2819
@errolmaloney2819 9 месяцев назад
I agree Karine,her cheekbones are insane.I think she's very beautiful.Didn't know about her until the Housewives.
@shannonwarren1430
@shannonwarren1430 9 месяцев назад
Cynthia is definitely one of my favorite models. She's GORGEOUS!!!🖤🖤🖤
@TheSuperZufan
@TheSuperZufan 9 месяцев назад
Housewives did cheapen her because she’s soooo accomplished. But, she used the platform to come up and I’m proud of her for that. I love Cynthia and hope that she continues to rise. She’s entirely too classy for the ratchetness of reality TV. Thanks for this video. People need to know about her.
@boobierubi8567
@boobierubi8567 9 месяцев назад
See I think housewives helped her in some aspects . And she didn’t really do anything that she has to be embarrassed of she always remained a lady and classy she was never really acting ratchet on tv. And housewives had such a big platform and the checks were nice so I don’t blame her for doing it . Especially when she first joined her and Peter were having money troubles so she had to do something but I think housewives is a better show than most reality shows .
@InHisService772
@InHisService772 9 месяцев назад
Doesn’t matter the legacy because legacy doesn’t pay the bills and RHOA does. She was reduced to modeling moo-moos before RHOA. RHOA shows that she is able to transcend and change for each generation. Now that’s legacy!
@InHisService772
@InHisService772 9 месяцев назад
@@KamuSaladi big shirt dresses. Google it
@denisewest3858
@denisewest3858 9 месяцев назад
Exactly and good sense.
@bbi2.052
@bbi2.052 9 месяцев назад
@@KamuSaladiit’s like a night gown/ housedress type dress. It’s loose fitting and it actually originates from Hawaiian culture.
@sifisogoodman1970
@sifisogoodman1970 9 месяцев назад
qwqqwq
@marieh9627
@marieh9627 9 месяцев назад
Now that’s real talk. Legacy and getting your bills paid are two different things. She made her modeling money years ago--things change-models age out and get less gigs. People always pick out people that they remember from childhood and expect them to still be living off of 80s and 90s money, and then has the nerve to be shocked when their star dies in poverty because that person was ashamed of taking a regular job. This mode of thinking is about keeping people in a box type of fantasy. It is not reality. Good for Cynthia in making a new bag and creating generational wealth.
@gigiinspired780
@gigiinspired780 9 месяцев назад
Yes she was my beauty role model she doesn’t get the respect or recognition she deserves , so thank you. Cynthia was one of our first darker skinned toned beauty icons. 😊🙏🏽👏🏽❤️.
@KingAshleys
@KingAshleys 9 месяцев назад
Cynthia stayed in Essence magazine in the 90s
@carlitah74
@carlitah74 9 месяцев назад
I didn't even know about her until I started watching Real Housewives. I use to follow other models like Iman and Beverly Johnson etc.
@TheLoveweaver
@TheLoveweaver 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, I've never seen her before RHOA. She is beautiful though, stunningly so! I followed the models of the 80's/90's too. I don't ever remember RHOA being classy. Imo
@ChassityNOubre_88
@ChassityNOubre_88 13 дней назад
Same for me
@majorinmauricep1318
@majorinmauricep1318 9 месяцев назад
I didn't realize until this video how much her daughter looks like her Cynthia is one of my faves❤
@anitasinkler8524
@anitasinkler8524 9 месяцев назад
This was great. You did not touch on her relationship with Leon, Noel’s father. 😊
@feminineone9610
@feminineone9610 9 месяцев назад
Love her classy demeanor 🖤
@AishaKarefa
@AishaKarefa 9 месяцев назад
How did you miss Leon (From Five Heartbeats)? She was with him for years.
@karenjones9863
@karenjones9863 9 месяцев назад
Cynthia isn’t working on the real housewives of Atlanta anymore, she’s just a friend of the show.
@JuliaShalomJordan
@JuliaShalomJordan 9 месяцев назад
I love that Bob haircut that framed her face.🤌🏼
@onlyalisaawilliams
@onlyalisaawilliams 9 месяцев назад
I was not feeling it when Kim Fields/Tuti did a season of housewives , so I agree with you , but they have to earn a living .
@KassieP-sf6nz
@KassieP-sf6nz 9 месяцев назад
I feel the same way about Stacy Dash being on this show called College Hill with people that never been to college
@Starchild729
@Starchild729 9 месяцев назад
Cynthia is stunning! The first time I heard of Cynthia was through RHOA. Although I stopped watching a long time ago, I thought she didn't fit in with the messiness of the other cast members. 🖤🖤🖤 I don't see Beyonce or Janet doing housewives, but if they did I think viewership would increase significantly.
@onlyalisaawilliams
@onlyalisaawilliams 9 месяцев назад
Agreed they have tooooo much money , and stature .
@finechina3626
@finechina3626 9 месяцев назад
Girl, I love you BUT..Even 90's models need a paycheck....come on,Beyonce can live off her first solo album alone...forever...she's held her own on there housewives,she's due complete respect for keeping the money Rollin in...she's still a goddess💚
@BougieOnABudgetFigiRated
@BougieOnABudgetFigiRated 9 месяцев назад
Wait a second-how did you skip the relationship of them all which produced her daughter? I was waiting for it the whole video. 🤣😩
@schurrlittle1339
@schurrlittle1339 9 месяцев назад
CYNTHIA BAILEY IS BEAUTIFUL INSIDE AND OUT AND SHE IS SUCH A LEGEND IN HER OWN RIGHT!!🤩🤎💃
@Wyntrborn
@Wyntrborn 9 месяцев назад
Cynthia absolutely was and still is gorgeous. I agree she was too classy for housewives but it did give her exposure. I also thought Kim Fields was too classy for the show and she made sure she got out of there. Blessings always to Cynthia
@arteshaLeAnn
@arteshaLeAnn 9 месяцев назад
She’s a chameleon & gorgeous with pixie cut, it brings out her distinctive cheekbones ❤
@starsigngirl9789
@starsigngirl9789 9 месяцев назад
I love miss Cynthia Bailey ❤
@Lynn_Shae0915
@Lynn_Shae0915 9 месяцев назад
She rejected Russell Simmons and Leon proposals for broke Peter Thomas I’ll never understand
@KarineAlourde
@KarineAlourde 9 месяцев назад
💀💀💀
@Lynn_Shae0915
@Lynn_Shae0915 9 месяцев назад
@@KarineAlourde babe they had money and status I was rooting for her and Leon!!!!
@KarineAlourde
@KarineAlourde 9 месяцев назад
@@Lynn_Shae0915and Leon was handsome too 👀
@ariahsavagesavage
@ariahsavagesavage 9 месяцев назад
She don't do dusty. High standards. Did you not hear about Perter n bar 1?
@KarineAlourde
@KarineAlourde 9 месяцев назад
@@ariahsavagesavageyeah he had money but I believe had some trouble around his second season on the show
@nathansmith8492
@nathansmith8492 9 месяцев назад
Your brother's music is so beautiful ✨
@DjHappyscrappin
@DjHappyscrappin 9 месяцев назад
I agree she's above housewives. She has so many avenues to explore which you already highlighted 😊
@LG-universe
@LG-universe 9 месяцев назад
I never looked at Whitney Houston the same after her reality show.
@springflowerbutterfly6449
@springflowerbutterfly6449 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for making video about her always been curious about her past sometimes i used to get her and actress joy bryant confused years ago
@reginaldjackson4176
@reginaldjackson4176 9 месяцев назад
Good Afternoon. Joy Bryant has a lighter complexion than Cynthia Bailey.
@tanurrahdodson9231
@tanurrahdodson9231 9 месяцев назад
I agree w all u said about Cynthia ❤❤❤she needs to keep modeling or teaching modeling😊 she is everything
@tarver5308
@tarver5308 9 месяцев назад
Love, love love Cynthia and her modeling career…. Happy to see you’ve done a video on her! Stephanie Roberts, Karen Alexander, or Gail O’Neal would be some great candidates to do a video on next!?
@darneittajones8338
@darneittajones8338 9 месяцев назад
I totally agree RHOA and the other franchises degrades the women.I call it the BRAVO CURSE. Andy wants to degrade the women and cause conflict for $$$. When the drama ceases they fire the women or put the woman on "PAUSE" forever. Cynthia Bailey was the prize and class act of Bravo.
@essie29cptsa
@essie29cptsa 9 месяцев назад
Putting anybody on RH "exposes" who they really are as people, and that's good to know because most of the so-called icons gives us a wrong impression of who they really are.. . and yet we are all the same... Let's be real 🙌
@danavixen6274
@danavixen6274 9 месяцев назад
Glad I don't watch Real Housewives. Cynthia Bailey is lovely. Nice to know of her from before her RH days. ❤🖤
@n.hunter6666
@n.hunter6666 9 месяцев назад
Your research and REPORTING is impressive and brilliantly covered. Plus ,your word play is super supoortive to the subjects you cover.
@Roundthewayrose
@Roundthewayrose 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Karrine ❤😍😍😍😍 I love Cynthia & it’s good she did housewives because that’s how I discovered her. She’s so graceful & a class act. An awesome role model for young ladies & models. You’ve never heard anything scandals around Cynthia except Peter 😂😂😂. Thank you for the video ❤
@Mrs.FillUp
@Mrs.FillUp 9 месяцев назад
You’re absolutely correct!!! I never thought about that what a deep perspective.
@AuthorLHollingsworth
@AuthorLHollingsworth 9 месяцев назад
@2:20 You're right. The Housewives franchise was more classy in the beginning, but now it is garbage. Cynthia Bailey is one of my favorite models of the 90's. Beautiful 😍
@californiagirl1579
@californiagirl1579 9 месяцев назад
Cynthia Bailey is so Gorgeous ❤ still today! This my first time hearing about her being a fashion model i just thought she started on house wives reality shows thank you karrine for sharing Cynthia Bailey story❤
@shop4sue
@shop4sue 9 месяцев назад
She was always a class act even when she was on a show that really tries to portray a coming up but can be degrading on so many levels.
@tonyhardin2508
@tonyhardin2508 9 месяцев назад
Fix-a-Flat Porsha had a lot of nerves to be talking about Cynthia's botox usage!
@NOBS4theUSA
@NOBS4theUSA Месяц назад
Great photos of Bailey!!! Thanks!
@msmissy3551
@msmissy3551 9 месяцев назад
I remember the first time I saw Cynthia on a huge blowup of just her face at the Fashion Fair makeup counter. I was floored by her beauty. As a young black girl back then you didn't see black models in the makeup section before Cynthia. At least not in my area. I agree she's too classy for RHOA. Kenya as well. Both are gorgeous beauties. 🖤🖤🖤
@ivycarrano8207
@ivycarrano8207 9 месяцев назад
Kenya doesn't have any class. She is a phoney ratchet person.
@amethystjess18
@amethystjess18 9 месяцев назад
I know what you mean Karine. That's how I felt when Kim Fields joined RHOA. I was like Tootie Kim Fields? Regine smooches Kim Fields? I was glad when she left because she's above that... I don't like what they all go through for storylines😊
@redlipsblacklace3373
@redlipsblacklace3373 9 месяцев назад
I feel it takes away from their legacy.
@myraallen2951
@myraallen2951 9 месяцев назад
No really she stand out no matter what she does
@maryreilly5092
@maryreilly5092 9 месяцев назад
Are you sure she is 56 now? Wow, she looks STUNNING! I love the 90's fashion and she was certainly the IT girl!
@FNFNFN99KKK
@FNFNFN99KKK 7 месяцев назад
She is so beautiful and her cheekbones are to die for.
@Teafield02
@Teafield02 9 месяцев назад
Leon whew Chile that was a fine one too
@brendawheeler975
@brendawheeler975 9 месяцев назад
Karine, I always enjoy your presentation!😊
@nycsp
@nycsp 9 месяцев назад
I know her way b4 the "house" show !! Shes so classy❤
@tiffanysedits5406
@tiffanysedits5406 9 месяцев назад
I was mesmerized by the photos. Great video. Love Cynthia! How did you skip over her relationship with Leon though?!!
@Branaymolly
@Branaymolly 9 месяцев назад
She is so pretty she was one of my favorite people on the show because she so chill
@mikemichael777
@mikemichael777 9 месяцев назад
I always loved her she has a good soul and well let me state the obvious she's absolutely stunning
@traceylennon1204
@traceylennon1204 6 месяцев назад
What beautiful photos... she's just stunning!!! 😍😌💯
@MyDigitalDiaries1111
@MyDigitalDiaries1111 9 месяцев назад
I absolutely love her cheek bones too I have high cheek bones and I used to get bullied but I realized it was just jealousy. And omg if Beyonce or Janet Jackson were on Housewives their image will be absolutely tarnished just my opinion and by the way Karine I love your cheek bones❤❤❤❤
@TheLongdarktunnel
@TheLongdarktunnel 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this. I knew she was a model but its so hard to see her work, especially runway. She looks stunning at 2:10
@adriennep.5004
@adriennep.5004 9 месяцев назад
Did you forget to mention Leon?
@designdiva5686
@designdiva5686 9 месяцев назад
Great commentary ❤I thought you we’re going to mention her relationship with actor Leon
@kevinmallory8414
@kevinmallory8414 9 месяцев назад
I would love to see you do a video on Victoria Principal. I think her story and career is very fascinating.
@michaeld.williamsiii9026
@michaeld.williamsiii9026 9 месяцев назад
Never watched The Real Housewives never will I don’t personally care for reality shows and feel they are negatively poisonous to the culture and society in my opinion.😐😑😐
@danavixen6274
@danavixen6274 9 месяцев назад
Poison indeed. You can thank Andy Cohen. 🙄
@zacharyrome3432
@zacharyrome3432 9 месяцев назад
👏👏👏👍✊
@chaloevibes4355
@chaloevibes4355 9 месяцев назад
Same here
@sonyadrake7843
@sonyadrake7843 3 месяца назад
🎯💯🤜🏾🤛🏾
@EBoNYonAir
@EBoNYonAir 9 месяцев назад
I agree, I would not like to see Ms Bailey do anymore reality shows. I wouldn't even like to see Rosie Perez doing any reality shows! However, I would like to see Cynthia do a talk show and highlight fashion on red carpet events. I would even like to see her do something with her daughter. What about her relationship with Leon? 🖤
@rhondaburrell3439
@rhondaburrell3439 9 месяцев назад
I would love for you to do Loretta Devine
@user-rp9qo2gx7v
@user-rp9qo2gx7v 9 месяцев назад
I believe you are" spot" on.Nothing further to add what you have stated.
@mrsbraye9842
@mrsbraye9842 9 месяцев назад
Great Video - Could you please do a video on Nancy Wilson and Leslie Uggams. Thank you
@emin5488
@emin5488 9 месяцев назад
She still look gorgeous.
@ejakaegypt
@ejakaegypt 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for this I love miss Bailey
@regina7795
@regina7795 9 месяцев назад
I had no idea that’s who she was/is
@ejakaegypt
@ejakaegypt 9 месяцев назад
High cheekbone clique stand up!!
@boobierubi8567
@boobierubi8567 9 месяцев назад
I think the older cynthia got the better she looked she aged so beautifully . On RHOA their was an episode where it was her and Eva Marcelle and they both strutted their stuff and cynthia is a lot older than Eva as well but everyone agreed cynthia did better and just looked better modeling she showed that young one how it’s done. ❤❤❤❤
@AP-ts3lf
@AP-ts3lf 9 месяцев назад
Stunning
@lkofie6670
@lkofie6670 9 месяцев назад
Oh yes, I understand and hear you on possible endeavors for Cynthia. I think she's had her feel of the RHOA too... like it has served its purpose.
@Ytliar24
@Ytliar24 9 месяцев назад
I love your channel Karine. You're very entertaining.
@consciousnessrenaissance7804
@consciousnessrenaissance7804 9 месяцев назад
She’s so pretty and she seems to have a gentle aura about her ❤
@michilove6554
@michilove6554 9 месяцев назад
It's shocking to me that ppl did not know who Cynthia was before RHOA. I guess everyone is young bc she was everywhere back in the day. I knew exactly who she was when she joined the show, but it didn't bother me bc she remained classy and graceful throughout. She had a couple of ratchet moments, but for the most part, she was great. Her being "boring" was just her retaining her class. Now everyone is saying that RHOA cheapened her. It didn't in my opinion. She got her money n moved on.
@janina8559
@janina8559 9 месяцев назад
Everyone knows you do housewives when your broke 🤷🏼‍♀️
@tjbmom123
@tjbmom123 9 месяцев назад
Did you totally skip over her relationship with Noelles Dad???
@MrJimmyDLee
@MrJimmyDLee 9 месяцев назад
Yes she’s still a Beauty!! Can you also feature Wanakee Pugh ?
@renethomas6575
@renethomas6575 9 месяцев назад
I agree; it takes away the mystique of being a classy lady.🖤
@tonip2910
@tonip2910 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely beautiful ❤️
@NoelOzen-hb1yh
@NoelOzen-hb1yh 2 месяца назад
Music is so nice.
@kevinharris3993
@kevinharris3993 9 месяцев назад
I think the RHOA of Atlanta actually helped Cynthia's career. Many people were not aware of who Cynthia Bailey was until she came on the show. Cynthia always maintained her grace, class and respect while on the show. However, Kenya destroyed her image with fake storylines, offensive behavior, and displaying a negative self-image of Black women. However, both women were able to generate wealth and popularity that had not been on the show, they both would be broke and "unsung".
@TheGlamourBOXinc
@TheGlamourBOXinc 9 месяцев назад
I remember growing up and seeing her in magazines! I always thought she was so beautiful & I use to just gaze at her!! She’s beautiful 😻
@77danamae
@77danamae 9 месяцев назад
you're absolutely right about the housewives shows.
@queenofparkview
@queenofparkview 9 месяцев назад
This was a good video. I feel like RHOA really helped Cynthia Bailey’s career.
@gloriacato7761
@gloriacato7761 8 месяцев назад
Yes. She's known now
@theealiennreview6912
@theealiennreview6912 9 месяцев назад
Cynthia Bailey before the real housewives is so interesting to me tbh within her modeling career and come up thx for this vidoe
@MusicNotesLD
@MusicNotesLD 9 месяцев назад
I didnt know about her at all! Job well done!
@mauricegilliam7102
@mauricegilliam7102 9 месяцев назад
Great article.
@jessicashanel7577
@jessicashanel7577 9 месяцев назад
I love your videos. Would you please do one on Polly Adler?
@elexis3728
@elexis3728 9 месяцев назад
I keep having to check my settings to see what the playback speed is set to because Karine is speaking so fast🤭
@lyndamcmullen5506
@lyndamcmullen5506 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely gorgeous ❤
@Nikki...
@Nikki... 9 месяцев назад
So Classy and Gorgeous! I had no idea she was such a major Model! She definately dodged a bullet not marrying Russel Simmons! Lol👀
@camishanimmons1766
@camishanimmons1766 9 месяцев назад
I miss Heavy D
@nafisahg.6509
@nafisahg.6509 9 месяцев назад
No one needs to be on ‘Housewives’! ‘Housewives’ needs to go away! Shut down all of the cities, spinoffs, etc.!!! The’Love & Hip Hop’ shows too!! Make it all STOP! PLEASE!!!!
@finessefine
@finessefine 9 месяцев назад
🖤Cynthia!🖤 You forgot to mention Cynthia’s relationship with Noelle’s dad, Leon!
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