So as it turns out, there was something significant I missed- the existential Shy Guy that speaks with Mario on the Sunset Express can actually be fought later in Mossrock Theater: he's one of the Trapeze Guys, and once defeated in the optional battle he'll reveal if he had to meet his demise, he's glad it's by the hands of Mario! This is really sad, but super cool to have been included. Just thought I'd share! :)
There's something really weird I found out. After the final boss, if you try to leave without saving Peach, Huey insists you go back and save her. Try to leave again & she'll get crushed by a pillar. Mario & Huey will also get crushed, resulting in an instant game over.
There is a gun law joke in the game. The Port Prisma Café owner is scared of straws and considers outlawing them, and he then says "If I outlaw straws, then only outlaws will have straws."
Mikey Slaney Mikey Slaney yes! Thank you much for pointing this out, another commenter brought this to my attention again recently but it's still very welcomed. I didn't go to the cafe often, looking back now I may have gotten the dialogue in my playthrough but overlooked it for whatever reason- I need viewers like you that notice details I miss. While I like to think I'm pretty thorough when researching it happens 😅
What about at the end of the game where if you ignore Peach and try to leave without painting her, the castle collapses and you all die after Huey says "All that work for nothing!"
Also you have a limit to how many times you can guard Bowser's attacks in his second form. If you exceed this limit you die instantly and seeing Huey lying on the floor in such a beat up state saying all is lost is really kind of depressing. I mean this guy is your only partner in the entire game and he is funny, kind, is fascinated with the world, loves colors. I mean he really does start to grow on you as a character. He is always there for Mario and really cares for him like a true friend as shown in various touching moments throughout the game. Seeing Huey in pain like that is just emotionally depressing.
Wait, there's actually a limit? That just made the fight WAY scarier. I thought it was dependent on amount of damage, not hits... ...So glad I insisted on multiple high-power cards each hit.
you forgot a certain something. WARNING MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD DO NOT CLICK READ MORE IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET SPOILED So when you go to bowser's sky fortress to save Peach, you see Bowser has created a floating black paint factory in which he takes all the paint the slurp guys collect and mixes it into black paint. This paint is then used to create Black-splash Banzai bills, basically nukes that when they explode, splat black paint everywhere. Now remember, black paint is considered LETHAL if touched. That means Bowser has a NUKE FACTORY IN THE SKY! Oh but that's not the end of t. Later on Mario and Huey use some large bob ombs to destroy the paint mixer creating the black paint. It works, but then black paint starts flooding the room. Mario and Huey decide the best idea would be to run for it because, as stated, black paint will kill ANYTHING it touches. When they're running, they see a bunch of Bowser's minions falling into the paint and being cornered into inevitable death as the black sludge of doom claims them. It's some seriously disturbing stuff.
I did forget that, thank you very much for pointing it out- especially the bit on Bowser's minions meeting their ends and being consumed by the black paint. That whole scene really built up an atmosphere of helplessness with help from the music: not to mention that poor hoarde of giant Bob-ombs mentioned, you had to ignite them to initiate the self-destructing of the factory. If the blasts didn't kill them (similar to Bombette and Bobbery's abilities from the first two Paper Mario games) than the black paint certainly did.
Original Gameteer that sounds familiar but I can't quite recall! I hope this is the case and Huey did say that- adds even more to an already disturbing (through implications) scene lol
Original Gameteer hah! That's significant- thank you for checking, I have new concern for Huey now. Honestly it was pretty "fun" when playing but as we've been discussing, they are very much sentient with lives of their own: I suppose this is the direction Nintendo had to make though because if the writers had Huey comment on how sad the situation is we'd have overlooking children contemplating the fragility of life too early 😂
There is a Toad in Port Prisma who will tell you the current news headlines. One of them is "Top 100 Uses For a Conk - Number 51 Will SHOCK You!" or something like that. The Toad says that they are generally examples of using a conk to prevent something gross from getting out of something, and that number 51 did SHOCK him. I think the implications are clear enough. This game is full of really strange shit.
Hey thanks for not only your post here, but on Reddit as well! I appreciate the responses. You've given great feedback :) If anyone wants to check out the comments section the link is here: ►www.reddit.com/r/papermario/comments/59ewpf/dark_aspects_of_nintendo_games_color_splash_xpost/
Mabon Young oh no! I'm sorry you had to trudge your way through- if I'm correct you did get some special dialogue though? Something about Larry being impressed
Yeah, for the first few battles, he makes comments like "Fight smarter, not harder!". Then he shuts up for a while, then does some dialogue on the last enemy. You also get to faight the Shai Guyz, the rainbow shy guy team. It's a nice detail.
It took a good few hours. It's REALLY annoying. Every battle has 5 enemies. If you leave, a lot of enemies respawn. I ended up beating Iggy thanks to Battle Spin.
Mabon Young well good job in making it though! That's still a pretty vague hint- the way dialogue is written you'd think the enemies would give it away by star puns or something. Huey could even suggest looking around for another way: forcing to fight every single one doesn't sound fun
The Shunned Guy in the caves really freaked me out.. The way it stops what it's doing while hiding in a corner then snaps it's spine backwards to look at you then crawls after you, and the music that plays as it all happens... I never thought a Mario game could make me feel so uneasy
Duddridge1 I felt the same way! As soon as I saw Shunned Guy I thought about making this video, and the topics to talk about (thankfully) continued to grow. Truly a great horror movie homage 😅
After finding the super-sized Princess chomp and running from her twice, I went to the professor and splashed him with red paint. After using the Bone thing to attract Princess back to her home, she repeatedly crushes the professor before taking off. Since I colored the professor red, it looks like Princess actually crushed him and he kinda looks like roadkill. Take into account the splatter effect in a spot that was hit with Mario's paint hammer and it becomes even more disturbing.
Stephanie K hah that's great- I can imagine the scene playing out and having him blood red makes the situation a lot different in retrospect x) I'm not sure if you've seen it, but your comment reminds me of the beginning to Kubo and the Two Strings: while telling a story using magic paper craft the origami Samurai fights his way through various monsters while red shredded paper flies in the air (comically onto somebody, where he proceeds to gag). I though the parallels were interesting!
+ThaneGaming It's even funnier when the other toad says "Now he's going to be in an even worse mood!". Kinda hard to be in any mood when you're splattered like a bug.
Acrylica Magica probably my favorite line in the game. So great and unexpected, too bad most people won't experience it because you have to go somewhat out of your way (but why you should talk to everyone)! :)
This game really did get away with a lot of dark stuff. not as dark as TTYD or Super. but pretty close. I really wish some people didn't see this game's writing as nothing but internet memes, modern slang and paper jokes.
I’m surprised that when talking about the ruddy road segment where you flatten the shy guys and make their paint blurt out, there were originally red, before turning blue. I Imagine they did this because... well, can you imagine squishing them and pools of RED paint squirted out... that would make the age rating sky rocket!
I'm just now starting to replay Color Splash again, in anticipation for The Origami King. When I got to this segment, I kept your comment in mind and laughed when they were indeed red and turned blue from the shock! Forgot about that... 100% Nintendo did this because of red paint 😆 it'd be hilarious if this was a last-minute decision, if someone pointed it out in product testing
@@SumRandomDewd I don't know, from the trailer it looks like there'll be some material to work with already! There's "creasing yourself" akin to joining a cult (with Bowser's soldiers being inducted against their will), a kaiju paper-lantern Goomba eating a house, and a faceless staggering string doll 😮 it seems like the devs are inspired by the horror genre, I can't wait to find out what else they sneak in
I would also say that Color Splash wasn't the originator of dark aspects in Mario; rather, specifically in Paper Mario. The Thousand-Year Door was the first game in the series that introduced the Cerebus Syndrome trope to the Paper Mario games. Sure, Thousand-Year Door is lighthearted on the surface but there are lots of example moments or settings that are either dark or unsettling. Creepy Steeple, the ghost toad in chapter 6, Pirate's Grotto, Grubba draining the life of fighters in chapter 3, the X-Nauts' evil plan, the Shadow Queen, etc.
Oh believe me, I agree with your exemplifyers: so much so, in fact, that I've been planning a Dark Aspects for each Paper Mario game in the series (minus Sticker Star, as all dark aspects that can be found exists similarly in Color Splash) for a while now- starting with the original. I feel that while Thousand Year Door certainly introduced the heaver tones, the N64 game certainly had its share with moments like Tubba Blubba's secret and chapter 7's "murder" mystery among others. I simply chose Color Splash because I wanted to get the newer one out of the way before tackling the "trilogy". Thanks for commenting, I will absolutely be investigating Thousand Year Door in the near future :)
I've been working on a small Paper Mario video very recently, will let you know when I get close to releasing it. Shouldn't be too long, like 1-2 days.
The only dark themes I could find in Sticker Star well aside from the Bowser Snow Statue/Mister Blizzerd boss were the deaths of Bowser Jr. and Kamek. When you defeat Bowser Jr. he launches into the air and freaking explodes in a burst of fire. Kamek's is even worse because he crumples up on the floor and laughs going "King Bowser will destroy you" over and over then he turns into ash and blows away. Despite this both deaths are negated by the effect of the Sticker Comet and all the bad guy's are revived during the game's ending.
SpiketheEchidna what about tubba blubbas castle in the first paper Mario he was literally eating the boos and you have to fight his heart as the boss of that chapter
i know that this is late but did you notice that in plum park a shy guy was left behind by his friends because he didn't have a bucket. later in the level you get on the roof behind the shy guy and fight the piranha plant that's in the bucket and upon the plants death the bucket gets knocked off the roof and crushes the shy guy before landing conveniently in the poisoned water. also in fort cobalt at the cafe, there are some piles of ashes that were shy guys, one ate a magma burger and said it was worth it, and the other said, i didn't even eat one, i just sat across from him. i think there was a third one but i cant remember.
Literally, the only thing that I found is scary, is when Iggy used that giant Thwomp and did 999 damage. Also another thing that scares me is that you can't do sh*t when you have replicas and you're fighting one of the Koopalings. Nintendo is being really cruel with this one..
It is very odd that the devs decided to include unique dialogue when trying to use a replica against the Koopalings (saying that it won't work), rather than simply allowing them to be effective. There's hardly purpose in them existing besides winning from a battlespin, but in that case it should still just be the actual Thing card if you've unlocked them.
Sometimes they can be annoying if you haven't saved in a little while, but for the most part I like intiating them on purpose. My favorite is probably the incoming pufferfish during the Wiffit or Snifit Seabed Edition challenge :)
GoldenYoshistar1 that's a very good one! I touched up on it a bit in my "In Defense" of Color Splash video but yeah, the concept in itself is really dark. Thanks for pointing it out! I'll mention it when I get to Dark Aspects: Thousand Year Door and talk about Doopliss :)
The Toad at the café in Port Prisma talks about how the Shy Guy's are using straws for evil. He then says that he wants to ban straws, but he can't because then only the bad guys will have straws.
RadShyGuy I actually did learn of that after, but thanks for telling me here! I'm surprised a missed it, I try to go through the games I play thoroughly in terms of dialogue for this purpose. The line is a great example of some fairly heavy political commentary for an "all audience" game and I love it. I appreciate your comment again! :D
The wolf pack Bros right? Man I was not prepared for that. Though I'd be lying if I said it didn't bring a smile to my face (mostly because I knew it'd fit right in this video series :)
tyty GAMER123 I agree, that is impressive for an 11 year old- I feel some of these jokes would have flown over my head at that age (that or the writers didn't do a great job at concealing them...). Good critical eye!
You forgot about something in the Mossrock Theater. Remember that Shy Guy you sit down and talk to? Well, he's actually a trapeze artist there, and if you kill him, he says that if he has to die, he's glad he did at Mario's hands.
Beau Pinet Yep! I did forget that- I commented about it since I found out after I made the video :/ at the time I was only fighting enemies that were new to me: any encounter I could skip I did. Isn't this so cool though? Makes arguably the most "mature" moment in this game even darker. I was wowed beyond belief when the was first discovered :) thanks for commenting!
Yeah. Had to sit down and analyse my life after I found this out. Does it make it worse that I actually hunted down and killed him after I knew this? Oops
Well Color Splash is no Thousand Year Door or Super Paper Mario in terms of it being as dark as them there is no denying it's at least darker then the light hearted sugar bowl that was Sticker Star.
Jmario232 hah, completely agree and that's a great way of phrasing it. The only real standout example of that game being "dark" was perhaps Mizzster Blizzard's dialogue after defeat. I disliked the comparatively huge lack of story (especially coming from Super PM!) as it feels so disconnected from the original three. At least Color Splash does take more risks in writing for the sake of humor, Sticker Star comes across as entirely too light for me to consider it anywhere near up to par with the other scripts.
Oh, so make sure I DO *NOT* die in this game? Goes without saying, but a little extra "motivation" helps a LOT! .........I can never see Shy Guys the same anymore...
You left out Cobalt Base where you have to buy those cards off that shady guy who says "hey pal, you buyin ?" If you walk past him, definitely very funny considering how most children would follow the "stranger danger" rule their parents taught them, leading them to lose the game
Very good point, it's a shady trade indeed & you're right about their psyche telling them to stay away! Perhaps that's all thrown out the window when they’re consciously playing a game & aware it can’t hurt them, though. I could be wrong, it’s a funny thought regardless- thanks for commenting :D
i got halfway through the video without once thinking about the plunger. then i saw it and i was like "OHHHHH, that... how could i have forgotten the PLUNGER!?!?!?" seriously nintendo, why did you stereotype plungers?
I love that the devs included that detail. I realized this only after I had beaten the game (and after I made this video) as I tended to avoid battles that weren't necessary/new. That's probably the darkest aspect of all, thanks for commenting :)
Mario killing intelligent lifeforms capable of communication with him probably shouldn't really be a surprise this late into the game series. I don't know about TTYD (which most consider the peak of the series in plot and themes), but the Floro Sapiens at the end of chapter 5 in Super Paper Mario really give you the same morbid guilt trip, albeit AFTER you've already murdered a whole heap of their people AND their monarch.
Funny you mention that, as the Floro Sapien chapter is a topic I bring up in the Dark Aspects #11! This is simply the first Paper Mario game I covered in the series (I went back to tackle the original trilogy) so I made aware the humanization of enemies here as it's still a relevant topic. You're right, it's not all that surprising generally but with characters like the reflective Shy Guy and how much relation he's given it's still something to consider.
Hey sorry for not responding! Love your user icon- super cool. Hah, I don't think that's a bad sign: you're just very observant. And thank you! Much appreciated :)
(Odd-Moss) I haven't seen it yet but thanks for the suggestion- I imagine how it might play out 😅The Lonely Goomba is a RU-vid channel I quite like and comically stars one from level 1-1 of the original game (the Goomba trapped between two pipes), also putting the enemies in another perspective :) the characterization of Goombario, Goombella and their family/friends of the same series work to help paint this picture too.
Is the colour zapped white Toad that came in in form of a letter ever given the chance to get it's colour back? If not than for all we know that white Toad is actually dead.
well in the koopaling battles they (mostly) have a instant kill attack and they are actually really violent especially iggy ludwig wendy and larry and also dying after saving peach where not only huey and mario die theres a scene where u wait for so long to get in the car peach and luigi die but you survive (it is still a game over) and in the final battle if you use huey too much that death is very violent as well
Elijah Pisani thanks for all the very good points: insta-deaths weren't really something I thought about including in the video but your point about the Koopalings being rather "violent" in the execution is true (excessive damage, joyfully succeeding over Mario). I also regret not mentioning the potential game-overs in Bowser's Castle, which can be quite sad when thinking critically.
Honestly, this game used the idea of how painful an instant game over would have to be, and does it LUDICROUSLY well. You can... Sink into black paint for an instant death. Get swamped by black paint and die. DROWN TO DEATH ON LIVE TELEVISION. Almost forget peach at the end, and when you come back for her, the castle collapses with you inside. Huey commits suicide to save everyone. Run over by a chain chomp maybe three times. Run over by a train. IGGY'S 999 THWOMP THAT CAN KILL HACKERS. Larry using Mario's own jump on him to crush him in a bit of hilarious irony. And there's so many more, and every. single. one of them is either painful, or morbid in terms of execution.
great video man. yeah when I first died and saw all those shy guy's slurp me up I thought yeah this is pretty dark.. but that's good though I like freedom of speech in video games... I have a scene I thought was dark.. HUGE SPOILER reamber right at the end when bowser does his final blow? well I thought that part was dark case bowser is possessed by the dark paint and the dark paint drained all of bowser colour for that final attack.. but that wasn't his choice that was the paints doing.. and ROYS battle gimmick when he turns the room all black and you can't see while he attacks you.. that part actually got my heart pumping I was legit scared lol
I was going to include a bit on Roy's battle gimmick but decided to just use a clip of the fight towards the end. I thought that the bit of lore we're given about the paint (can directly influence emotions) was strong and the fact that Mario can be drained of motivation so easilly with the green paint is a surpringly dark concept. Imagine if Black Paint Bowser had utlized this for a more subtle way of conqering the island? Influecing depressive behavior with the paint's power would've been intruiging and heavy-handed. Your bit about freedom of speech in video games is very valid too! Of course I love the variety in direction these games can take and it's important for each of the devs behind these releases to have their voice :)
I can agree with that, though the themes are definetely horror inspired. There's no mistaking the Slurp Guy's music referencing these types of movies- in moments when the "killer" is revealed.
That is true! I did love the Koopalings, they were all pretty great. People complain about their overuse, and while I wouldn't like to see them again as villains (especially bosses) in a future Paper Mario game, I appreciated them here as their personalities really shined.
So you mention all this but disregard the fact that Bowser JUST FREAKING NUKED SUNGLOW RIDGE!? I mean really that was dark. Bowser was building many of those Black Paint bombs too. Enough to paint the whole world black.
Same here. I don't think we have seen the last of it and I mean you really never fought it. You were just fighting Bowser and his troops who it was using as pawns.
What if, The Black Paint is a reminiscent towards Nuclear Power? The Giant Bullet Bill (Banzai Bill) struck one of the location like a Nuke with Black Paint spread all over the place. Now imagine if Black Bowser successfully launch an horde of Banzai Bill towards Mushroom Kingdom?
The greatest disturbance Nintendo made with this game is the fact it is another stain on the legacy of Paper Mario. And one that will plague the future of the series forever. Literally that's the most frightening thing about it
Martin The RU-vidr hah I tried to make it less so by turning down the volume in editing, but I wanted to keep it in there somewhat for the spooky theme :) sorry to make you jump! I personally dislike them but they can work when utilized properly
TSK As in *the* Toad? The original Toad (the only Toad named after his race)? Does it say this anywhere or do we just assume since he's accompanying Peach
Yup, in the game they always refer to him as "Toad" but they refer to other Toads of the same color as "another or a" Toad, it's really confusing since basically you can assume anyone is Toad since they have the same colors but it's pretty minor so it doesn't really change anything. I really hate how that happens though.
Yeah it is a bit annoying, I see exactly what you're saying- it's sort of neat that this is classic Toad but I feel more consistancy in this regard would be better for their race. Perhaps involve this fact more in the story than a dismissive comment at the beginning
You can run back into the nice shyguy from the train, but he has to fight you. After you defeat him he tells you it's him and while it's over for him he appreciates they got to know each other.
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If you use super paper mario for a "dark aspects" episode... Well basically you could just play the entire game and that'll be the episode. It is really dark... I am actually suprised that Mimi didn't bump up the age rating eith spinning her head, complete with a loud "CRUCH" of her neck twisting and presumably bones breaking, before she grows 8 giant legs (also tearing a piece of her hair off, which sticks to the leg) and chasing Mario through an empty basement.
Call me Zelda ONE more time I felt that mentioning the Game Over screen with the Slurp Guy sucking up Mario's paint was enough, though I certainly could've gone over the many other ways to die, too. I suppose I'm so used to the concept of "losing a life" in video games, so I didn't really consider it as dark :D but you're right, it is worth a mention. Thanks!
Luu Tran good suggestion! The entire concept in process of Kirby getting his abilities (not to mention certain grotesque final bosses- looking at you Zero from Kirby's Dream Land 3) would be super neat to feature for this series, and something I had planned for eventually!
Shelltoast ! Thank you so much :) haven't posted in a while since I'm away for class but the semester's coming to a close & I'll start up the series again very soon. Any games you'd like to see me cover?
Cool! I'm not very good with suggestions, but I'm sure one of the more obvious ones would be the Luigi's Mansion games, particularly the first. But other than that, definitely Super Paper Mario or Eternal Darkness (If you want to count it). I'm looking forward to seeing what this series becomes!
ThaneGaming well, in the game Huey actually references Kevin Hart during the part where he's doing his comedy routine and everyone boos him. Idk I always found that part to be hilarious
I also found one, that shy guy you talk to in the sunset express, is the same shy Guy as one in the level before the emereald circus (cant rerember what it was called), so you can KILL him. I dont know if this is one or just a little sad thing they added, but it could be.
It's not necessary dark, but one toad pokes fun at gun control laws (I think). I believe it's Port Prisma's barista, who says he can't ban straws because then only outlaws will have straws. Also I think I remember something dark from Piper's story. I'd mention it, but spoilers...
Original Gameteer Original Gameteer Original Gameteer Original Gameteer yes! Thank you, the "straw" control line was definitely in there- I remember reading it or hearing about it after (Arlo x Lonely Goomba GameXplain discussion) as I didn't visit the barista too often in-game. Brilliant example of an "under the radar" joke- as for Piper I don't think there was anything particularly dark about the story but I can double check and get back to you!
Original Gameteer I looked briefly and can't find anything about Piper's eating someone but there is talk of death (I won't spoil either), which is quite dark in itself. Thanks for brining this to attention :)
The writing in modern Paper Mario is really a mixed bag. Sometimes it can be relatable and feel like I am talking with actual characters, just like in classic Paper Mario fashion! Other times, it could just be some internet meme, random humor sorta thing and I don’t like that. That makes the game dated and less like a real world with characters.
I can totally see fans not liking the random humor-it worked on me for a good majority of the time but on some occasions it can absolutely feel like you’re not speaking with actual characters, I never like it when games insert memes into the script either. I was actually OK with the Luigi Death Stare being referenced in Color Splash though, only because it was subtle and didn’t feel forced
AlphaLuigi ha perhaps I'll be getting around to it in the future. You probably noticed his unused model in the opening of this video so I do love a lot about that game's beta!
PickleThingy's Jar Your name and animated profile pic is beautiful. I agree that I want a traditional Paper Mario game again, but I did like Color Splash. Sticker Star on the other hand... regardless if they head in the SS/CS direction for the next game I don’t think anyone would even give it a chance. That is indeed the darkest aspect
Madd-D thank you so much! always reassuring to see these positive comments. If there's any other Dark Aspects of a game you'd like to see me cover let me know! I plan to go back and tackle the first three Paper Mario games at some point soon :)
gamers in a container I recommend it, really enjoyed the game looking back. Cool you’re being open-minded about it! Disassociating with the other games and what “could have been” in the battle system, what we got is a creative, fun adventure and I liked the paint gimmick. The world is beautiful, writing is to par with the first two. Let me know if you do decide to pick it up!
WindowshadeCure I agree 100% on their being darker, Color Splash was simply the first game I covered in this series because it was the one I played most recently, and there are (as you can see in the video) certainly aspects worth mentioning. I will be covering the original trilogy (N64 to SPM) soon!
Well, I can't lie to you...... ....I still want to get Color Splash! I mean, I'm still liking the game, and besides, this isn't the first Mario game I've seen that appears to be really dark. I've seen stuff like this all the time, so I'm not traumatized.
The Super Shiny Mega Gengar oh it wasn't the intent to turn you away or anything! Even with everything I've said about the game I feel it is 100% appropriate for children. That goes for all games I cover for "Dark Aspects of Nintendo"- I trust localizers, devs, and ratings boards in their treatment of the product's target audience. I also feel it beneficial to have these "dark aspects" in games in general, because when there's Aspects like intelligent social commentary and delicate treatment of heavy topics (Avatar: The Last Airbender, Steven Universe) that encompass an entire show/game, it better shapes moral and world views for the consumers when they're captivated. In the case where it's not a positive exposure (like say, innuendo) I still feel it to be harmless, though dismissing that it's simply interesting to me in seeing what the creators can get away with sneaking in. This is mainly a series for fun, I'm glad you still want to play the game! I personally love it and highly recommend
The Super Shiny Mega Gengar And I agree too, there are plenty of other dark aspects in Mario games. I don't think any of them go as far as to be traumatic, but I believe you in having exposure to that sort of thing because I can relate- the Internet especially can be a bad place lol and I myself have become desensitized to a it. I still find "under the radar" topics interesting/"shocking" in family-friendly media though, which is why I'm here :D
The Super Shiny Mega Gengar interesting it's being talked about :) good to know people think similarly- playing the game I thought it was perfect for this series. Really glad you watched this video and commented! Thanks :)
He Forget that in the last level if you do nothing when you save peach and you put peach with Luigi and do nothing the rainbow road will fall with luigl and peach and the castle will go boom and you and huey die.
It's not the worst ! In the french version of paper mario 64 , bowser says bad words . I can't really translate what "brelle" and "batard" means , but i'll just tell you that french bad words are even more violent than english ones . (why the french version goddamit ?!)
Ooo, I've never seen Dragonball Z but that looks awesome hah- assuming you're talking about the absorptions in Gingertown/Nicky Town & the Artificial Humans?
ThaneGaming, yes, I am. Think about it...both the slurp guys and Cell execute the same way, the only difference is the slurp guys attack Toads with straws, while Cell attacks humans with his scorpion-style stinger, but it (the stinger) was originally planned for the absorption of Androids 17 and 18.
You forgot to say that the 1 shy guy IS FOUGHT AGAIN AND SAYS......... (remember me? The guy on the train? Guess i was right we are enemies. go do your hero thing and kill us all) THAT IS THE SADDEST THING IN ALL THE MARIO SERIES!!!!!!
Ramon DeJesus definitely could have, though I thought mentioning them would suffice. Might have become a little redundant since I'd mentioned repeatedly how horrifying the concept is 😅thanks for commenting!
Are you sure? EarthBound does push the limit more than most games similar. I would agree that some of Color Splash's writing challenges EB's: though there are some themes in that game PM:CS can't compare to. Either way, I appreciate your opinon: thanks for commenting :)
Super Star Gio that's why I included it! :) Probably my favorite line in the entire game (which is saying a lot too, as there are plenty bits of brilliance in the script)
I love that part lol. I don't think it's required so it makes sense you didn't experience it- but when you're finding all the train parts for repair, you can go into the passanger car with all the impatient toads and speak with them: talking with one will trigger the "fight".
It was just a silly joke, you're entitled to your opinion and it's cool the one I liked least is your favorite. May I ask why you liked it more than the other games?
ThaneGaming Ironically, I liked what most people didn't like, the simplified battle system. It was just choose your sticker and attack! In other games it was choose the category of attacks and then choose your attack through a small or large list. Another thing I liked that most people didn't like was the world map and cliche world design. Normal world, desert world, forest world, tundra world, jungle/hot land world. That was more simplified as well. In other P.M. games, is was kind of one world separated into chapters. One thing I didn't like was the "puzzling obscurity" on my first playthrough. It kind of drops you off without many clues. I had to use a guide on several points throughout the game. One thing that I believe everyone liked was the music. It's a whole lot better than the other games. Especially "battle boogie" and kamek's battle theme. Yet, another thing was the design of the bosses. Bowser is so freaking cool and so are all the shiny enemies. The royal stickers were just so good looking and the way all 6 of them look on the album is just so cool. ANOTHER thing I liked that some people didn't like was the "made of paper" concept. Some people think it's overused or just ridiculous. By the time I posted this reply I've just finished my 3rd play through of the game. Even though the game didn't have much story at all or hints to other games in the series OR much variety of characters, it was still a great game. Even for the 3ds! I might begin my fourth and not-anytime-soon-final, play through. Now I ask you, what did you NOT like about sticker star?
It's Deckles!!! Interesting, thanks so much for sharing! I do like Sticker Star's music- Battle Boogie and Kamek are indeed great, the standard battle theme probably being my favorite. I appreciated the detail of being low on health & the music changing pitch. I wouldn't personally say the OST is a whole lot better than the other games though- it's been consistent quality throughout in my opinion. Other things I liked about Sticker Star were the ice world- Enigmansion and Mizzter Blizzard were both memorable. I do think the graphics are really well done, and I agree with you that in terms of visuals the all-paper aesthetic is solid and a natural progression for the series. On the contrary, I dislike Sticker Star primarily for what it stands for as a Paper Mario game, and as a comparison to its predecessors. In terms of world-building, which is what I loved most about the first three: Sticker Star regresses far, far behind even the first game. Thousand Year Door had an array of new villains, bigger threats- surprising locations. Super Paper Mario was the most text-heavy, plot driven experience (can be seen as a negative, though I liked it) we've ever seen from a Mario game in general. Instead of, say toning it back a bit for a comfortable medium, the story just wasn't attempted at all. Intelligent Systems went in complete reverse in that regard- after three games of character establishment (talkative, charming/funny, witty) Bowser was given hardly any lines to the point where I couldn't remember if he said anything at all in SS. The first game's story wasn't anything to write home about, but most of the sub-stories that made up each chapter were. Dismissing story, but also regarding the severe lack of world-building is the absence of interesting NPCs. There were decent lines of interaction for dialogue in Sticker Star, but the diverse encounters from the previous games added by making the adventure feel more exotic & interesting- it also gave reason to really connect with the person (or creature) I was speaking with by differentiation. One of my favorite aspects of the originals (first two mainly) were the ways it added races/species from Mario's legacy (Li'l Sparky and a Cheep Cheep as party members?) or something we've never seen before (what is Madame Flurrie- a wind spirit? Cool!) I could probably keep going, but I'll stop there for now (lol). If you want to continue discussing let me know! Thank you, I'm really passionate about this all and I can tell you are too :)
ThaneGaming Quick thing: I just started playing paper Mario 64 on my Wii U and I'm beginning to like it more than SS. I kind of lied about the whole "I've played other Mario games before" thing because I haven't played 1000 year door and I'm getting there in PM 64. The only one I've previously played was super paper Mario and I liked that one too. I'm waiting to get color splash because I haven't beaten PM 64 yet. As of the time this reply is posted, I just beat tubba blubba and I will continue later. I have a question that you might know or not. Can you use an n64 controller adapter-linked to a Wii remote and play paper Mario on it? I'm looking forward to playing PM classic-style.
It's Deckles!!! I'm sure it exists if you find an adapter online by a third party- there isn't an official Nintendo one though. I would most certainly wait to play Color Splash, its a good game but you're right to play through the original first! (Thousand Year Door too if you like it this one a lot). That's awesome you're at Tubba Blubba- the next chapter (4) is my favorite in the whole game. Have fun!!
Nathaniel Gold lol it is somewhat odd that when defeated some (or all, can't remember) fly off the screen like a deflating balloon. I'm not sure where they go, perhaps The Underwhere ;)
KirbyLinkACW I'm thinking of going back to do all three of the originals- I have a script written for N64 Paper Mario so it's very likely! That will be my next upload if everything goes as planned
Coming right up :D I strive for one video a week from my playthrough and once every other week for these types. Look forward to another Color Splash vid this Friday! What are your favorite game genres?
I'd have to agree with you on all fronts! Fighting not so much but I really do enjoy Smash (if you consider that to be in the genre), Mortal Kombat and some Soul Caliber :)
Serperior 5 so I tend to poke fun at the game more than I actually "hate it". I didn't dislike playing Sticker Star and found that I was enjoying quite a bit of it- what I "hate" is what it means for the series, and the developers seemingly oblivious to what the majority of fans want. My stance is that I was disappointed in the complete lack of any care for the story (fine in standard Super Mario games, but following the plot lines of TTYD and Super Paper Mario? There's bound to be outcry). The dialogue was okay with a bit too much focus on the "being paper" concept that was majorly just an aesthetic choice before, and the battle system went back to turn-based but lost its original depth & meaning. Then there's the common arguments like lack of partners and extensive use of Toad characters etc. What I did like was that it was easily "digestible" for the 3DS, the music and art style was gorgeous (the poison swamp and ice levels my favorite areas), and select creative segments like the Enigmansion & Mizzter Bilzzard boss. The attention to detail at times was pretty great too, like the Egyptian-style Toad depictions giving a pretty comical touch. Overall as a standalone game (disregarding the argument that conventional battles are rendered "pointless") I had a good time and think it's a decent game experience, but it lacks almost all (with exception to a bit of charm here and there) of what I loved from the first three games. I did really appreciate Color Splash, so it's concept can work but I can't help but agree with many others when I say I wish the series would try and honor more closely the games we first fell in love with. I'm happy you do like Sticker Star though and if you want to continue discussing what you do love about it please let me know! It's all very interesting and I'm open to all sorts of interpretations :)
Lukas Grönholm I have a couple of friends that love the game too, I'm glad you got enjoyment out of it and I'm always interested in hearing why :) it's nice hearing perspectives on aspects I may not have recognized before.
