Dark Knight has LESS oGCDs (Pog) | Xeno Explains Dark Knight Changes in Dawntrail (Media Tour) 

WARNING ⚠I AM NOW CASTING UNMEND⚠ I HAVE NOW TAKEN 5 SECONDS OFF SHADOWSTRIDE⚠

Can't believe the Strummer made it to the Media Tour.

All the awareness spreading against mods have paid off... OUR KING MADE IT TO THE MEDIA TOUR🎉🎉🎉

I'm not used Xeno talking calm and comprehensible.

RIP Plunge. I won't like part of the reason I leveled DRK is because Plunge is so cool. Don't see why the potency could have just been removed but still have plunge as a gap closer.

Sticking new animations on the 1 button spam burst abilities tanks have was actually a great idea to make them feel a little more impactful, never really got bored of paladin's blade combo the way I did with bloodspiller spam. But man I wish they'd focused more on making DRK feel less boring between bursts than on the burst phases, I miss having scourge and multiple combo enders..

Been praying for Dark Missionary to go to lvl 70, hopefully lots of people brought it to the devs attention and we get it in a later patch like Stalwart Soul combo in EW

Gonna miss my Plunge :( Also, I'm still baffled that they haven't removed the shared OGCD of Abyssal Drain with Carve and Spit. I know that AD is not an ability that's used in raids/EXs and is primarily a dungeon ability, but I still don't understand the reasoning behind AD going from a GCD to an OGCD to sharing a cooldown with C&S. It's utterly baffling to me why they think that giving Warriors a 25 second CD Bloodbath on steroids is fine but keeping AD to 1 minute is also fine.

Yeaaaah, I was really hoping for SOMETHING to happen to DRK. Dark mind is still magic-only. Ugh. After picking up WAR recently, I'm actually appalled at just how much better everything is. So many of WAR'S mit are just better versions of DRK's, and WAR's got MORE of them. I don't get it, man. I know they perform pretty well in raids, but I don't raid as tank. Does DRK's performance in raids justify how shit its mit toolkit is?

I'm sorry but you're wrong about TBN, at least in terms of the MP/opportunity cost. Could it be more powerful? Sure. But the opportunity cost is what makes TBN an interesting button I sorely wish other tanks had something similar that works with their own theme and rotation. Imagine, imagine if your mitigation and damage dealing kits were tied together. Fundamentally, the fact that DRK actually mitigates differently from other tanks is one of my favourite parts of it. Doing Rampart + Dark Mind + Oblation + TBN instead of just Rampart + Short Mit is just fun and it works.

Well 5 -> 3 stacks on blood weapon and removing damage on plunge might only matter in low level content, but there is a single encounter in which it might become very problematic if they dont increase other potency on other skills to make up for it. Im talking potd 180 behemoth push. Currently it can be so tight that if u dont use plunge early and it does not come off cooldown early enough you just might miss the kill by 0.1%. Of course its currently much better than pre living dead update shenanigans, but i hope they make up for that lost damage in some way.

You scared the hell out of me with the title until i learned it was blood weapon and plunge that they removed

In this video, strummer cheers when jobs become more like WAR, laments when he has to deal with quirks that make jobs different

I'm so pissed right now: Abyssal Drain still garbage, Carve and Spit and AD STILL sharing cd, dark mind still garbage and only 1 new self healing option tied to a 2 minutes cd, Dark Missionary still the same, TBN STILL THE SAME FFS - i was so hyped man, they got me in the first half....another 5 years of lame job design

I kinda wanted Dark Mind to get a slight change since while yes it is a answer to every tankbuster along with TBN it's really not the best for dungeons especially when we are definitively getting more criterion dungeons.

Replacing the Plunge animation with Generic Dash #5 is actually a crime.

Your not wrong. I was very upset a long time ago when Delirum just became weaker Inner Release but now that it just aesthetically looks different Im so much more on board with it. I wish it applied to lower levels like a weaker version but baby steps.

I really feel like DRK should have self-healing on any skill that uses Blood, possibly including the new Delirium combo. It really irks me that the only self-healing added was from the 40%.

SE can we PLEASE get flood and edge of shadow to be one button with a fall off after first hit. Theres no reason my hotbars need an aoe and single target version of the same button. Same with literally every other job.

Might be about that time to finally give up on DRK. I didn’t like the ShB rework and it’s looking like it’s gonna stay that way for a while.

Dark Missionary not being something by level 70 will forever haunt DRK; it's bad enough it's biggest burst skill isn't available at that level (Esteem); not having it's party mitigation when every other tank does is just baffling. TBN also feels dated, especially since all 3 other tanks have seen their short cd mitigations all get giga-buffed last xpac. Rather see it lose the MP cost, go to 25 second cd, and gain a regen or something...y'know, self sustain, the one thing DRK has sucked ass at compared to the other tanks for at least 4 years and counting. I still am not a fan of losing Plunge for the animation alone, even if having a gap closer more akin to Thunderclap (which I LOVE) is what a gap closer should actually be. Would've been ok with it if all tank gap closers lost potency, but only GNB and DRK got slapped with that since WAR and PLD don't have as many oGCDs to work with during burst windows.

I dont really do savage content and dont main DRK but to my knowledge TBN is annoying because you NEED it to break in order to get the benefit and you are better off casting it on a melee DPS so it does break. yeah, even i can see the issue, its treated like heart of corundum by SE but it just isnt.

I 100% agree with TBN. Drk is due a rework with proper attention to it.

Once again asking for TBN to be turned into a 25s Thrill of Battle with 10%, but tank homogenization is bad right?

I love that SE has no idea about what to do with DRK. Removing plunge is stupid. The new delirium combo looks cool but it is effectively the same thing - a one button mash 3x. Oblation is still dumb as hell and should be removed or buffed or fused with TBN. TBN should keep its mana cost because it is the only thing that keeps DRK unique in some way. New effect on Shadow wall is nice because it is pretty close to the old Stromblood skill that they removed. Overall DRK got some quality of life but the job is still the same as it was after the Shadowbringes change. Not like we going to get another rework so this is it and i do not really like it.

if i wanted to hit less buttons i would play warrior, stop making all the tanks the same to play ffs.

I was hoping to see Carve and spit get a personal heal since it shares CD with our only other healing OGCD abyssal drain. Like, it doesn't have to be massive, maybe comparable to Abyssal Drain when it hits 3 targets. But some kind of self healing for single targets.

Just leveled a Drk to 90 this past week and I feel you 100% on the Dark Missionary should be 70. It really doesn't make any sense and it annoys me as well lol. Like, why? What is the point? All other tanks do have it at 70.

I like most of the changes, however the main issues DRK had in Endwalker are not being adressed at all + the change with blood weapon at 3 stacks has not been balanced (still at 600 mana per gcd). Hopefully some of these things will be adressed before savage and we'll see how it plays out ingame compared to the other tanks

i think tbn should continue to involve a risk of some kind it's probably the only reason i bother to play this job still. i value friction like that but i think that the ability can and should change. personally i really miss hitting b4b + price but those days are kind of over. i wish we had something new in that vein that could bring a new kind of excitement

Nooooo plunge 😢 L

weird stuffs: salt and darkness is still there. Abyssal Drain still shares cd with CnS and they haven't done anything to improve TBN like what the fuck ?

What about mana issue at high end with the lose of 2 charges from bloodweapon

Salted Earth should have gotten additional effect of giving regen to the Drk when standing in it Carve and Spit and Abyssal Drain need to have separate cds again And Abyssal Drain should have been put back on the gcd as part of their AoE combo Drk new gap closer should function like Mnk’s Thunderclap…so last minute teleports to party members last sec to dodge an aoe after squeezing out a gcd before disengaging No need for keeping Dark Mind AND Oblation….Dark Mind could have been deleted imo and maybe Oblation moved to an earlier lvl unlock MP cost for Edge and Flood should have been reduced too

For better self-heals than just 40% mit upgrade auto-heal. Transfer Abyssal Drain heal effect to its line aoe darkness ability but only as the Free proc when TBN breaks or duration its ends, that way still has decent heal for dungeon mobs frequently. When TBN effect ends, it grants Obilation instead but it's own duration is the remaining seconds of TBN's cooldown. So you always have 10% mit on DRK when TBN isn't up, similar to PLD often having 15% mit from Shelltron early levels. Finally with Blood Weapon being Delirium later and losing 2 GCDs worth if blood gauge again. To make up for that, have Salted Earth regenerate blood gauge per tick now, like it use it before ShB.

I'm so glad Xenos is real and doesn't let the media tour get in his head about how he feels about these classes.

i wonder if drk pulls in frontlines will still be really strong in 7.1

I swear every time they change DRK its one leap forward and a skull-shattering flip backwards. Fusing Blood Weapon and Delirium is great as it removes the busyness of the Job. But they also reduced the stacks to 3 and made it last 15 seconds total. Making the window much tighter. The new gap closer having 2 charges is nice, but removing Plunge affects DRKs damage output more than you'd think. It also doesn't help that the animation is kinda lame tbh Salted Earth (PvE) is STILL unchanged, same with TBN which should do more or be more in line with DRK's identity, like costing Health instead of Mana maybe(?) or other Tank mits need to be nerfed a bit too so they actually have to worry about using them correctly

they should have left the plunge as it was and make it unusable (grey out) in melee range, so ypu can still pull with it.

You stole my Plunge animation! Give it back!

RIP Plunge :( Who doesnt want to do a front flip attack with a big ass sword? Not as egregious as when they took Scourge but still.... kinda let down on that one.

I honestly feel like Dark Knight has just been shafted since Shadowbringers. It wasn't as bad in SHB since they were just starting to make a lot of dungeon stuff hit harder, but you could tell DRK was having a harder time staying alive. Come Endwalker, and WAR, PLD, and GNB all get massive buffs to their mitigations, AND get a whole ton of self sustain to the point that WAR is essentially Immortal. Meanwhile DRK got Obalation, and had C&S linked to Abyssal Drain without making them single-target/AoE versions of each other by NOT giving C&S HP regen while AD got MP. I honestly feel like TBN is fine for the most part, but just needs a 50% MP refund if it doesn't pop, so you get 1500 MP back. Otherwise, Blood Weapon/Delirium should get HP regen added to it's effect at 300 or 400 potency, C&S should get HP regen of similar potency. I feel like those would help DRK SIGNIFICANTLY. Other than that, maybe Obalation getting a bonus 10% mitigation for the first 4 seconds it's active like other tank mitigations have, since DRK doesn't have anything like that either.

Bald man made it to Media tour

should have talked to Yoshi and ranted some to him about the dark missionary and tbn shit

Maybe the lv84 trait (enhenced unmend) could change to: canuse plunge for one time (shadowstride changes to plunge). Total potency (plunge + unmend) is lower than 123, but it comes more flexible and useful (for dungens)

What are your thoughts on the new Delirium having lower mana gain than old BW?

NOT MY DRK GIVE ME BACK MY SHITTY OGCDS AND ADD *MORE* Honestly, remove Salted Earth/Salt & Darkness, give me a DRK aura that deals damage to nearby enemies, kind of like Sunfire armor in League of Legends. That way it removes an OGCD, I get to finally have a cool ass aura ability, and I can not worry about having every last fucking enemy corralled into that tiny ass area for S&D.

The greatsword finally feels like a greatsword with those big meaty hits on the new Delirium combo. Love it.

Someone has a massive hate-on for DRK.

What I'm concerned about is BW being 3 stacks now, is it the case where it still restores the same total amount of MP but over three skills instead of five? Or does it still restore the same amount per attack, resulting in a loss of about a third of the total MP generation? Cause with TBN still costing MP for whatever stupid fucking reason does that not just place an unnecessary increase to the limiter we already have to deal with? I mean if it's still the same total MP then that's likely actually an amazing QoL buff, but if it's the same per attack it comes across as another annoying as shit oversight. I'm still torn on excitement and disappointment regardless though lol Like the changes they made are almost all just flat out good changes, even if BW's MP generation is nerfed combining it with Delirium is overall still great, and the new delirium combo is awesome even if it ends up being the same thing, but they didn't even touch any of the biggest issues... Like TBN still being shit, not only still costing MP but the fact Oblation still exists is annoying, cause yeah they really need to just combine them and change how TBN works (i.e. add the DR to TBN, increase it's CD to match the other tanks, but maybe nerf it's shield potency while giving it two charges like Oblation that actually stack together), they also didn't uncouple CnS and AD, AD itself should just be changed to an MP costing skill that just restores HP on a shorter CD, will finally bring DRK up to par in dungeons with other tanks and give it a bit of self reliance otherwise, SE and SnD are also boring as fuck fillers in PvE while their PvP counterparts are actually useful, strong, and unique, so why the fuck wasn't there any change to those abilities either? And ofc we still kept "enhanced unmend" for some reason..... yeah it doesn't matter if it's there or not, it's THAT inconsequential, but it's just another minor example of more that could have been done. Idk, I want nothing more then to go back to DRK as my main but idk if this is enough to pull me off of WAR, even if it only got a couple new skills that's all it needs lol

Can they really not make bloodweapon/del or carve n spit a 30 second CD to replace the plunge loss? The interval between bursts just got even worse for DRK. And I can't believe they still cant do anything interesting with abyssal drain and salt and darkness. Yea cool new buttons to use at 60 and 120 seconds, amazing. Sucks because there is some good QoL, yet on the other hand Drk lost while gaining little again.

Damn wish blood weapon healed a little and gave mp

I respectfully disagree. I don't like the new changes. After having played it, it feels bad. Blood weapon was our only real source of mana management. We get a combo that grants a whopping 20 potency more than just having the five stacks of BW, but now we don't have the mana regeneration to go with it. Plus, combining my dps button with my mana management button and giving us less to work with is punishing defensively. The 5 stacks gave us 4200 mana regeneration every minute with the basic combo, but now we only get 1800 because of the new combo. Losing plunge also feels bad to play because now we have nothing to weave between gcd's and it's very dissatisfying. I thought combining carve and spit with abyssal drain was a bad idea. I thought only putting delirium to three stacks when I could originally get it to 5 was not the best but the blood weapon/delirium combo is the worst yet.

GNB gets to do their cool combo every 30s but we have to wait a minute to use the delirium combo? like why, also less Blood Weapon stacks=less magic to use edge/flood. I dunno, I would prefer them adjusting Delirium to 30s and then just changing the potency of the combo to compensate for using it more often. Let me use my abilities more often because all the cool stuff happening every 1 or 2 minutes is just so lame.

Really hope disesteem stays as a GCD. Honestly I'm really happy with how the job played in the media tour build. honestly I still fucking hate oblation and just wish they would just remove it and and buff tbn.

EXCELLENT VIDEO MY LIEGE

All i heard from the devs was: "we sacrified everything related to class identity, and that encompass visuals, animations, gameplay and ability effects, in order to optimize this class to only be useful in raid content.....again, of course that is, only if the potency are good enough, there is a 50/50 chance it will be OP or completely suck trough the entire expansion" Thanks, i hated this during shadowbringer and endwalker and was thinking "can't get worse, right?" Welp, as always i was wrong Time to either play dps or unplug the last remaining brain cells i have i guess?

only thing i dont like about this game is that damage numbers appear right when you press the ability instead of right after the last hit of the animation happens. this reduces the combat impact A LOT for me, its like you expect the juci number after the animation ends but after it ends, there is no number, feels kinda weird to me personally

Arent mob pulls different now? Like you cant range attack, provoke, plunge anymore. Do we now need to face aggro the first mob, voke the second and range attack the third. Or range, voke, range? Ofc this doesnt matter when you can plunge and then aoe for all the mobs to get aggro'ed.

I rather they didnt change much on the tools except for tbn and the removal of plunge feels....fucking dreadful and just not okay......

man i liked the plung animation... so sad

They can just give you a free dark art every time TBN expires without popping, and make it 25sec cd

It's raiders like you that made drk a much worse job plunge was fine but "nooo you have to put in in your bust window boohoo"

why does living dead still exist? edit: also if you complain about TBN use it on tank busters

"This aesthetic stuff matters to me." Why the FUCK didn't I watch this video first?!

I think in the same way that blood weapon and delirium combined, they should have combined tbn and oblation. tbn not giving any kind of damage reduction makes bleeds hit way too hard in high level content, and having 2 short cds is just obnoxious

I love it when you do stuff off stream

I think the reason that they removed damage from DRK and GNB gap closers but not PLD and WAR is because DRK and GNB have far more oGCDs to begin with. With PLD and Warrior your gap closers make up a large portion of your oGCD attacks, with it being an outright majority of them on Warrior. I agree that most gap closers should have damage removed. Not all of them. Some attacks like Primal Rend or Dragoon jumps the gap closer is thematic. So in other words "attack that also closes gap good, using primary gap closers to attack bad".

I dislike that Disesteem is on GCD. you are obviously using it during buffs but the overall potency of drk barely goes up with it. Either it should lose some damage and become oGCD or keep potency but make the Shadow available every minute (but lower it's potency for "balance"). 2min CD is no fun. 😤

If they changed souleater to something cooler looking the job will be perfect

I can't believe they left TBN the way it was. Here's hoping that it gets a tweek before 7.0 release.

In my personal experience every time I've used TBN to take a real hit it's worked properly. It does time out if i just randomly do it during longer periods of not much happening like I would do with bloodwhetting to just reduce healing needed to zero so it's definitely not super usable in that case. Oblation just drives me insane though, just roll it into TBN. I actually think it only feels bad because DRK is the only job left with a meaningful resource, the S-E solution would be doing away with it completely and making the mp skills just generate dark arts pips along the bottom of the blood gauge sooo... careful what you wish for

Every change except Abyssal/Salted and TBN that Xeno has suggested last media tour has made it into Dawntrail now... we've come full circle.

I agree distance closers should have dmg removed, but.... the animation. That sexy animation is gone. That "Guts in berserk armor is charging" is gone. And that is sad.

3:35 it replaces qoitus with impalement? The difference? The size They could just swap quitus and missionary, flood and stalwart are still pretty solid for aoe for 70 or less content. Meh TBN is still shit to use, got it. Agreed

m'lord has made it to the tour of media, brings a tear to my eye

I must say, I love removing damage from gap closers, it is odd that WAR and PLD kept it, especially PLD with it having even range on req now so you can now do all that at a range but still have to gap close for damage and keep close for gauge and ofc the auto damage anyway

Honestly I'm pretty sure the reason why our gap closer still doesn't allow us to target allies is so we don't accidentally position a boss to cleave the party. That's the simplest explanation I can come up with

Man i dont care about the damage, but i cant frontflip anymore?

Absolutely tragic.

tbh i don't like that nothing changed for all tanks so far it is still shadow bringer 3.0 at this point nothing really change what you do

MediaTourStrummer Tssk

i like drk and its aesthetic, but its just uncomfortable to play for me at least. so im def waiting for a rework some day.

funny enough, drk is still a must pick

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diesteem looks mad weird idk

I think one of the most fun things they could have done with TBN, is to make it do damage to targets around the Dark Night when it breaks or expires. This would help you to see it as not a waste of 3k mana. Maybe it does a flat chunk of damage when it breaks but slightly more damage if it expires, based on how much of the shield is left. I feel like that’s definitely something they could balance around, too. If TBN doing damage makes the Dark Night do too much overall, just pull some out from a few places to balance it out. As Xeno said in one of the others, it’s about getting to do more fun stuff, not having a couple moves that do massive damage.

I'm happy with the changes and it's what I wanted and kinda guessed: Blood Weapon fused into Delirium and Plunge turned into thunderclap. I didn't have issues with so many oGCDs but also using a MMO mouse does help. Then I do like TBN, for me it's fun learning when partywides are coming to use it on a party member (healer) and get that stack to get more damage during the burst window. Tho, looks like we'll get a EoS less during our burst due to MP generation

I like Salt and Darkness as an action, but Salted Earth should either be buffed or removed. 90 seconds for an AoE DoT that totals 250 potency is very weak. If it had some of the pvp abilities, it would be a little more justified. But it's bloat that hasn't synergized with any of DRK's other tools since Stormblood.

Would be nice if they add plunge back just as a melee filler OGCD i really loved the animation.

I always wished oblation works like bloodwhetting but instead of getting healed from gcd hits, you get a percentage of boss damage as a heal woulda been a perfect buster sponge and TBN gives shadow and mana back from a succesful bubble break.

cringe, im the only drk that wanted more buttons ig, shit is the same lol

:( getting rid of plunge which reminds me of berserk is sad

I really disagree with your opinion on tbn. If anything, I'd much prefer if every other tank had to think a bit more about their active mitigation rather than making tbn be the same as all the others. It's pretty much the one thing that puts dark knight apart from the others right now, and imo it should stay as it is, at least in concept. Sure, it could be a bit more rewarding or smth, maybe it should cost a bit less mp so it feels less bad to miss-use it ?

do you get the same amount of mana from the 3 stacks of blood weapon?

I WANT MY GODDAMN PLUNGE BACK.

Genuine question here, why is zero potency gap closers so amazing? Is it so that we don't weave extra mediocre damage into rotations?

Holy shit finally we got another combo ive been asking for that for so long

This is the first expansion where LD being the same isn't a bad thing

Idk you are the only one i follow taking us good technical contents about this new expansion. General videogame journalist gave only misinformation. I read something like “the game is easier and jobs are now really easier to play” while i am seeing here this is not remotely true