I love how Cal is struggling for his life and Vader is just so casual about it. For Cal it is the most traumatic experience of his life, for Vader it is probably just another Tuesday.
@@sachemofboston3649 most definitely Vader can take him in I on I saber combat, people seem to forget Palpatine focused more on manipulation and illusion type tactics rather than combat. If force was allowed tho palpy would take it.
@@Skitz6969 depends wich Palpatine tho The weakened by master Mace definitely cannot properly fight with lightsaber anymore, but the pre-order66 era one can 100% destroy Anakin or Vader
@@seth9165 mmmh right. Maybe less stamina then? Because as I remember he struggle during the sword fight and ends up relying on the Force (I'm searching excuses lmao)
Its perfect that Vader is a boss you cant beat Cal is no where near on his level and they dont even try and suggest he is. You have to get away from Vader.
@@erasalams61 Starkiller is the child of two jedi's and has been trained by Vader since childhood, also he can use force lightning which is one of the biggest weaknesses of Vader thanks to Palps. How come its okey when Luke defeats him and not Starkiller? This fanbase makes no sense
@@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443 well except we all know if it was Rey towards the end of the fight shes get some huge power boost despite doing nothing to earn it and somehow just beat Vader even though it makes no sense.
Basically only a jedi master or exceptionally talented knight like luke can make vader try and we know hes not fully trying against luke (well not at all in empire) but still hes conflicted and not fully committed to the fight when luke does beats him.
@@ryanwalker8843 buddy let's not forget Luke also did not want to kill his own father so he is kind of not wanting to fight him. See the fight between Vader and Luke. He constantly refuses to kill him instead to turn him and Vader was also doing the same so it was more like mind games. It was only after Vader taunts him does he unleash the power.
Vader is perfect because he dispatches of Trilla in a second defeats Cere twice without even needing to put in effort and makes you seem like a kid with a toy, they finally made Vader terrifying again.
I really like this scene for multiple reasons. one being. you see Vader and how truly terrifying he is. He just killed the person you were struggling for ten minutes in two seconds while making an entrance, shoved your master to the side like it was another day and tear the full room apart. For two hes letting the dark side fester in your master only for you to bring her back to the light, but it does nothing but slow him down not even stop him.
I mean Vader is so powerful the only people that can beat him are people he had emotional connections with which Anakin is still holding on to but anyone he doesn't know or close history are nothing more but fodder for him.
I don't think anyone has noticed, but the reason Trilla was even more frightened is because Vader was force immobilizing her. You can hear the Force sound effect just before he officially shows up. Like a dark ethereal crunch that has a hold on her. She couldn't have escaped or done anything, even if she had wanted too.
I kind of don’t want that to be true... I’d rather it just be a door opened or something. It’s better when he just emanates pure fear instead of the force doing it.
@@jaylondon5925 She was. What part do you want... the top half... or the bottom half? Vader cut her in two (they didn't show it, but you know that's what happened).
Cal would’ve been EPIC as Anakin’s padawan imo, if he can get great from Jaro topal’s training to where he can dominate the opponents he faces in Survivor, think about how good he’d get from Anakin’s training, better than Ahsoka.
@@ElderHickory958 Eh, obviously since Cal's new and Ahsoka's been in plenty of important and legendary star wars content as one of the primary cast. Most Star wars characters who aren't the Skywalkers need build up. My comment wasn't about fighting nor did I say he could beat her if you could read though js.
@@Artryom You said Cal would be epic as Anakin's padawan. No, he wouldn't, he would be just another youngling. Apart from some Jedi masters, being trained by him would give you a lot of Battle IQ and reflexes and more skill with the saber than average, but that's it. The skywalkers did need build up, both of them, they did need more training and skill to still be formidable Jedi Masters, despite both were already born OP in the force. Okay, having that much of midchlorians already makes you formidable as a whole but not if you don't know absolute nothing about using the force
@@ElderHickory958 1: "He'd be just another padawan." to "He'll be better than the average padawan." uh, doi?! What even is your point here? To argue because you can with no thought? 2: "They needed build up and extra training to be formidable." but "They were born OP in the force and better." my guy, I think you understand my point and what I actually meant by that but if not, critically think and comprehend what you're reading before you reply. Helpful tip for the future. Stop arguing just because you want.
This truly shows how terrifyingly powerful Darth Vader is. He absolutely will get his priorities straight and even will kill his own allies should they failed to succeed.
it's not what he does. The devs managed to make us feel the horrifying aura that Vader projects on his targets. Trilla's dramatic monologue was poignant. The long and excruciating seconds that passes by brings pity and compassion feelings for her to the shear horror and fear of what is really happening, as you realize that Vader is here, behind her. This is why the scene is so powerful.
Despite being weighed down by being permanently sealed in a suit with limited movement, Vader is still an excellent duelist. If he didn't burn on Mustafar, he'd possibly be more powerful than even the emperor.
If Anakin had beaten Obi-Wan on Mustafar, the emperor probably would have killed him before too long. Anakin was built different. If he'd properly engaged in his emotions and let the Dark Side control him completely without losing his limbs, he would've had it over Sidious by leagues. He was already one of the best duellists since the likes of Tulak Hord, if he didn't get major debuffs from the suit he'd be faster than anyone else and a hell of a lot more talented with a lightsaber. He was basically Star Wars Jesus after all
@@drrobocar6459 no Sidious Is leagues above Vader, if wasnt for Mustafar Anakin probably would become the most powerfull force user in history but all that potential was lost when Obi Wan Made of him a living barbecue
i remember how i was ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED and horrified at him appearing the way he did. I remember my eyes widening like crazy after i heard his first step. Amazing how something so new causes such nostalgia for me.
When i heard his first audible breathe, i froze and whispered : "Oooh f*********ck..." lol i knew Cal was not remotely close to being ready to fight him, let alone trying to be.
@@dynad00d15 Happened to me today. First time playing it and when I heard the breathing too, I’m like _well shit…_ I just knew I wouldn’t defeat him because we know what happened to vader.
He doesn't really need to exert much effort at all Hes like The DOOMSlayer, he is fueled by his rage and suffering and that makes him terrifyingly powerful
@@derpdude32He is literally Doom Slayer in Star Wars. The difference is that he is in the bad side, uses a lightsaber and would love to mock his enemies and toy with his preys (Doomslayer is the one to kill them as quick as possible instead)
Did you know that trilla couldn't move because Vader had her held tight? 1:50 Vader has his hand clenched tightly and we know he only does that when he is either crushing someone's throat or using it on an object to pull or hold still.
Not only was it a incredible story, but it was FUCKING EA behind that story! When EA of all companies is doing better than you you know you messed up somewhere
@@MrMatt9793 Considering people got fed up with the BS of microtransactions? BF2 isn't designed with proper game balance in mind. The duels are fun though.
To this day, I still hate that both Cal and Cere ended up escaping that battle. One Jedi slipping away from Vader is one thing, but Vader would never let two Jedi escape him.
In fairness? They got really lucky. 9 times outta 10 they'd die there, besides, Vader wanted to tou with them and make Cal surrender the Holocron, hence torturing him with his own lightsaber despite him and us knowing full well it would take barely a thought to push it all the way through.
@@enderduck4253I hate the lazy ass “Uh doy, plot armor, oh my god plot armor!” And Makes the person look slow but I cannot deny that Cere definitely had it, not Cal, we see him going EZ on Cal, torturing him, assuming he killed Cere until she came back to save him. Cal definitely wouldn’t have escaped but Cere definitely shouldn’t have survived. Cere got that good ole’ grappling hook from Robin.
The whole ending with Vader was a treat. I legit thought Cal was gonna die but escaped, and his escape still made Vader look like a monster holding back the entire ocean with the force.
I remember how in The Force Unleashed you get to kick Vader's ass by the end of the game but in Fallen Order you struggle to just keep him at bay to flee the fight and I love it! (Also Starkiller was really broken, The Emperor himself had to put him down in the first game).
But he was really broken if we take on count his feats. Altough i'm not a fan of him i enjoyed the first game (the second was mid to bad for not saying it was ass) but also i don't wan't to see him in movies or anything. He was a character for those games and those games only.
@@anton.chigrinetc.96 Yeah, honestly, I agree. I love the Force Unleashed, but... Jesus Christ, I get it. Starkiller was powerful. *_It is not hard to make powerful characters._*
In fairness most of starkillers feats come from high adrenaline high stress situations where as we see can give a boost to force powers. And he'd been trained in lightsaber combat specifically against jedi since he was a child so being a powerful force user with skill in combat would be hard for anyone to overcome. But I don't love starkiller for his power I think his character is interesting and his design especially is cool. I'd love to see him return as an inquisitor
i love this actor so much. the fear in her face as she hears vaders breathing. And how she's like trying to hide her emotions and thinking maybe she'll somehow make it out of there. Its all there. IN A FACE. SHE SAID NO WORDS. I LOVEIT
The best thing to highlight here is the fact that Vader recognizes Cal's strength and potential and, although he doesn't say so explicitly, he doesn't try to kill him but rather seems to want to recruit him.
His dark entrance. The powerful thump he makes when hitting the floor. The horns teasing Anakin's betrayal theme in the underwater hallway. They did him justice!
Cal actually agreed with Vader. So Vader went easy on him. At the same time Cal showed he wouldn't just give up so easily. Which likely impresses Vader enough to not kill him outright. Nice detail that.
@@Juan_deep likely because he can have people doing the dirty work in the empire for him whilst he focused on more important things, like fine-tuning his connection to the dark side and plotting against the emperor, plus perhaps one of those new recruits could become a handy apprentice…
Vader's way of showing a modicum of respect to his opponent is wielding his lightsaber with two hands. When he one-hands it, he's literally saying "you ain't shit, I'm barely trying here, and YOU ARE LETTING ME DO IT."
Even if you somehow didn't know who Darth Vader was prior to this, I think most people could appreciate what a perfectly paced villain reveal this is. The breathing, the sudden force crunch, the heavy steps, the slow ascent of a shadowy figure... it's just stellar.
Vader's mere presence is so intimidating that the mere awareness of him in their vicinity created a sense of panic and distress that created mistakes that cost the second sister the battle
It's very impressive how Cal manages to run away from Prime Vader. (Jedi Fallen Order takes place 5 years after ROTS which is when Vader spends most of his time hunting Jedis alongside the inquisitors.)
@@amuroray9115 Luke brought conflict which weakened his connection to the dark side. I'd say it's because he got old but that doesn't work when you have people like Palpatine and Dooku.
Anytime Vader shows up, it always has the feeling of Madara during the 4th ninja war. For the people Vader is fighting it is the scariest moment of their lives. For Vader, it is routine.
I love the Imperial March theme when Vader is back at 4:24, but I especially love the ending notes when Cal swims out of the place, it's so haunting and so beautiful.
This has probably been said to death but a subtle thing I absolutely love is the track they chose for Vader’s entrance was “Anakin’s dark deeds” from ROTS as Obi Wan and Yoda see the aftermath of the attack on the temple and as Anakin is slaughtering the Separatists. When Anakin truly became Vader and got his Sith eyes for the first time, a bloody spine chilling and beautiful track
Exactly! Instead of leaving his brother (again), saying "Goodbye Darth". With Vader's mask cracked, a bit of Anakin surfaced. He even lifted the guilt out of Obi Wan's shoulders before retreating to the dark side. Obi Wan could've redeem the hero of the Clone Wars and most importantly, his brother in that moment. Well, he tried, but only if he would try a bit harder..
Vader is such a badass when you see him fight Cal and Cere. Vader only uses one hand to hold his lightsaber during the whole fight while Cal and Cere use both hands to hold theirs.
The repeated series of 'nope's as the fight itself kicks off is so good. Okay, so I can't hit him, he just blocks- oh, I'm getting force choked. Wait, I have control? Oh, I see, it's a quick time event, I can hit him with the- ...Oh. Or he can hit me with the scenery. Alright, well he threw me away, he moves slowly, and the door is closing, so this must be where it transitions to platf- ...Oh, he just... crunched the door. And now he's throwing stuff at me. While walking towards me. Oh.
Fr! He could’ve defiently stopped the elevator with the force, and even crashed it back into the ground when it was going up. The man even just shoots there watching Cal as he booted it up!
I love how it builds up and you think your gonna be able to fight Vader maybe fuck his armor up or something, and he just absolutely overpowers you, and all that energy goes into running for you godamn LIFE. What a way to just absolutely sober the player, build you up like your a badass and then show you how outmatched you really are.
This is the scariest vader has ever been. Scarier than rogue one. The first time playing this it was so unexpected, and you knew you were so screwed, (also because it took me a hundred tries to beat trilla, so how was I gonna have a chance against vader) that it feels kind of real and the fear cal is feeling is more personal when you control him than when you just watch vader in a movie.
Holy Hell! I juuuust got the game the other day on sale. GAWD He is really IS horrifying! The escape makes me think of Obi Wan in the underwater passage as well. :D
God I fucking despise the "relatably irreverent dialogue" trope so much at this point.... It *could've* been a worthwhile gimmick if writers had utilized it like a chef/cook would w/coriander or saffron as in: not in every dish/movie & **sparingly** when they do; but NOOOOPE it's the goddamn duct tape-crutch, immersion obliterating hallmark du fucking jour of lazy, shit writing/ers of the past decade, of course. Ugh......
I mean, what the hell is Cal supposed to say? “Probably” is the only response that makes sense after Darth Vader makes the entrance that he does. Cal is scared shitless and still decides to go down fighting rather than be taken prisoner.
I appreciate that they didn’t turn the might of Vader into a joke by having him quickly defeated. They didn’t invalidate Luke’s three movie wind up by beating him immediately.
When I played this for the first time and I just heard him breathing in the background the pure excitement through my body was mental! 😆 such an incredible ending to the story and I did not expect it at all.
They did, they portrayed Obi Wan in EP3 as novice jedi (Padawan/Knight level) and Reva at the same in EP5, he is unassailable until Obi Wan used form III and IV with the fear and weakness of Anakin still being behind the mask gone. It took the ultimate power of Obi Wan to beat Vader, and Vader had lost his calm and collective manner, shown by him exerting in anger when attacking Kenobi. Vader was portrayed extremely similarly if not better I Kenobi.
Because Obi-Wan is actually skilled enough to make Anakin scramble 😅 he’s an experienced, veteran Jedi with expertise in multiple lightsaber styles. Cal is none of these things 🤣
Did we watch the same series? He literally snapped a kid’s neck just to draw Obi Wan out and tortured and killed many innocents for no reason, he dragged Obi Wan through fire to torture him and tried burying him alive, stopped a ship and brought it down midair, we even got a scene of him killing younglings in screen.
I really like how this game gives hime a health bar and says "Try it no balls" knowing full well if you fight you die. Excellent story telling and not ttying to pander. You know you're out matched and you know this is a fight that is not beatable.
