DCS World - F-Pole Maneuver - A more detailed explanation 

Thanks for a good video. The F-pole tactics works if the opponent (Bandit) is using a semi-active missile, such the one, in this case, R27 or also named as AA10. If the bandit would have used the R77 ( AA12), which is the Russian equivalent to the Amraam (used by you), you would most likely have ended up in his kill zone and you would have needed to put him on in the 3-9 line, pulling some serious G's as a roller coaster to force the missile to break lock. You had the advantage by simply having a better weapon. From the bandit's point of view, he shouldn't have gone straight at you, but should have done as you did, i.e. put you in "gimbal", the outer part of your radar cone, in order to deny you a shot as long as possible. As explained by another reader on this topic, speed and altitude advantages will bring extra energy to your weapon giving you a first shoot opportunity needed to win the "tap dance" when fighting off an opponent with an equal weapon. Once again,, thanks for the video. It was a good description of the F-pole tactics. :-) I just had to add some insight to an exiting topic. :-) Hope you didn't mind.

FYI, the lines of the FCR are 30 degrees apart, not 20, not 40. 30 degrees. So it ranges from left 60-30-0-30-60 right.

I'm new to DCS and these videos + map view + annotations you do are really helpful. I've been practicing your maneuvers myself and am starting to get the hang of it. Thanks for the great tutorials!

Again, very nice use of tacview to help your viewers understand better what you are trying to do with your plane ... thanks a lot; I've just subscribed to your channel and hope you keep producing this kind of content ... its really superb. Cheers!

Thank you very much, I especially like your split view presentation and pausing to explain the details. Very I'm formative, would like to see this vs R77. Also, servers such as buddyspike limit to Aim-7 - would like to see that as well. This and your notching video earned another subscriber!

That was worth a sub. Thanks mate

I'm a fledgling Eagle driver. Spent many years flying IL2 1946 and am warbird minded....very behind in tech, so much so that I mainly fly Huey for my unit and on occasion I strap on the F-5 as a LGB bomb truck for the Hawgs. I was recently invited to start flying the F-15 as a trainee and I love the plane but am struggling in radar engagements, specifically missile avoidance. I stumbled across this and at first I was like "this is some boring shit", but I powered through and this is some pretty solid stuff!! I went ahead and subscribed and such lol.....hooked! Thank you for sharing with the community!! Looking forward to more and more of your tutorial/instructionall/tactical/technical vids!! ~S

you earned yourself a new subscriber ! Hats of to you for this! Well done!

I know u did this five years ago. Just saw it.( newbie ) going to run this! I diagramed it and studied it, now it's go time. Thanks. Awesome vid!

Jabbers!!!! Awesome stuff man. Teach me about the P-51. Anything that can give us the edge. Keep up the good work.

Excellent explanation and visuals! Subbed!

Wow! Thx man! More videos like this explaining different Maneuvers

Masterpiece to become part of the fighters pilot bible. I would like to add that the straight short line coming out of the circle in the hud represents the locked target relative direction therefore you can know he's gone defensive right away by seeing that line rotate around the circle from the bottom (meaning he is coming straight at you) to one of the sides.

Great video! Short and to the point.

Great visuals and explanation.

Great video Jabbers!

Very nicely explained tactic. Thanks!

Thanks for the video! Very helpful!

Great explanation there @jabbers

Very great video with extremely good explanations! P.s try to keep the mic volume the same in the whole video

Good instructions - simple and fast thank you it really heped me alot

good job, important manuever when engaging head-on in the eagle.

Nice tutorial.. Thanks for share !!!

Would appreciate some BVR tactics with the Mirage, having to launch the matra530 when you are less than 10nm is a real challenge...

Great stuff. New sub.

nice, thank you!

thanks good work

Nice one, I know it's a big job, but if anytime you're going to write a synthesis about all maneuver and BVR tactics you know it must be a masterpiece!

exellent,tnx for info 🤗👌👍

Very good!!!

Thanks will give it a try

Thanks for that video Jabbers. Can you also do a video about how to act in a close range Situation?

further HUD symbology information to help you. bottom right R is the range to target at the time you fired you were 14 miles underneath that is M that is the PREDICTED missile flight time in seconds it was obscured but 6-8 second flight time different to that is the maximum missile energy so when you fired the missile was calculated to take. the left when you get a countdown of T and M which is missile total energy time and pitbull time

Great!

Nice Video, thanks! In combination with tacview this video helped me alot. What if you had fired a AIM7, is it the same? And what if he flew the same maneuver?

Nice video! -=RvE=Toast

hey Jabbers! again thank you. can you do a tutorial about proper ECM use? when to use it? how to use it? offensive or defensive?

Thanks for this video mate! Can you do more stuff like this?

Can you do a video like this with the SU-27 w/ R27s vs F-15 with Aim120s, and also J11 w/ R77 vs F-15 with Aim120s?

noice.

total newbie here, wondering if it would make sense for bandit to turn into you instead of turning away? in that way he keeps his lock on you and perhaps force you to keep turning right so you lost lock on him? In worst case you keep turning into each other he will still hit you first (because he fired first) and since you are gone will your missile be dead as well?

Nice explanation! Just to clarify, you are shooting using an AIM-7 type Sparrow correct as well as the opponent using a similar AIM-7 Sparrow type correct? Reason is IF you were using AMRAAM, breaking lock would not be a concern

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Sir, I gotta real quick question, what would you recommend? DCS Steam or Standalone? I'm in a bit of trouble so suggestion would be appreciated. Awesome channel!

Great video and explanation! I just wish DCS got some better unclass numbers to work on when it comes to missile performance. 14 miles for BVR missiles is quite bad and far from reality. What I find amazing though, is the amount of knowledge combat sim communities have mustered.

Thats how the pros do it.

By the way, you can see the range to the target you have locked in the bottom right of the HUD.

To mention something else important : At missile-release 6:59 you will notice on the bottom left on the HUD you will see two countdowns (in seconds) *blinking,* for example at 7:01: "T 7 17" T = Time until The first number, 7 in this case = Your missile still needs your F-15's radar to continue locking the bandit for 7 more seconds untill your missile goes "pitbull"~ In other words, in 7 seconds your missile won't require you to lock up the bandit anymore and it will still intercept the bandit just fine. Launching a 120 in TWS shouldn't change this (or am I wrong?). This is important to know because if you know "hey, in X seconds I don't need to keep my radar/nose near the bendit anylonger" means you can start planning on more aggressive manoeuvers to defeat bandit's incoming missile after your own slammer has gone pitbull. The second number, 17 in this case = Your missile is 17 seconds out from splashing (or missing) the enemy/bandit. Does someone know where the countdown or any other data is, regarding *incoming missiles*?

there's a certain irony to your verbal mistake. on the VSD (radar scope) the vertical lines are 30 degrees apart, not 40, for a maximum of 60 degrees off the nose. Except in the real F-15 there is an expanded azimuth mode in single-target track which goes all the way to about 73 degrees, and the VSD display will change to accommodate this

Awesome tips. Can you please make a tutorial on some dog fight skills with M2k? Thank you

Hi, BMS V-Pilot here; Doesn't provide the F-15C a DLZ indication in the HUD like the F-16 does? - Or some sort of an indication that shows the calculated distance from ownship to target when the Aim-120 reaches *MPRF active radar stage/pitbull/M-Pole?(*all the same btw.) The shown number is a dynamic one, due to constantly maneuvers and possible post-launch maneuvers from target. Anyway, because, by knowing the DLZ, you got a good generally idea of the current energy state of the missile, before it's even launched. - For example; I know if I shoot at RPI "range probability of intercept", it's actually still possible to defeat my missile by simply flying in the opposite direction. If i shoot at RTR "range turn and run", even the fastest Jet in the world, can't outrun or deplete my missile's energy-state by dragging anymore. Just want to know, if such HUD indications are integrated in the F-15C module, or in any DCS model, anyway.

Keep the lockon target makes SU27 unusefull against F15/18s. In my opinion and experience it is much harder to fight against F15/18 in Su 27 than in F18/15 against su27. What do you think?

Too bad there wasn't a way to get that split view up in real time during training practice. It can be hard to visualize bvr dynamics without the map view.

Its been a while since I last played DCS (it was still lockon then) but I think we used to call this "beaming" back then. I don't understand though why his missile never went active? you were in range and well within the missiles cone of influence.

Soon as I see someone doing this to me I turn into them. They turn right I turn left. They turn left I turn right.

F15 is OP

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Having a really hard time applying this to the F-18’s Sparrows :(

What I understood from the video: r27 stupid, aim120 smart

Great vid :) AMRAM is so pay to win. lol. When your up against enemies with SAHR missiles it isnt even vaguely fair. I know war isnt fair , but this is a game and it looks too much like seal clubbing a lot of the time. :)

but how do you know the enemy has semi-active missile?

question, how do you defend against this kind of maneuvers?

how do you get the f15 tho?

None of those tutorials describe what to do when you missile doesn’t hit.

I'm here to learn War Thunder :3

What a dirty little Maneuver next question how do you defend against an f-pole if your adversary is utilizing it do you yourself do it also? Anyone else realizes as of August 1 f18c has aim 120bs now

Best thing is you never break the lock, you would have killed the Sukhoi anyways if you had shot an Sparrow

dude are you a pilot or something

You're very quiet. I can't hear you.

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Great explanation but you need to spend less time paused, it was really frustrating, don't forget that your viewers have pause buttons too.