Dealers CAN'T SELL Overpriced TRUCKS! $100,000 Ford, RAM & Chevy? So STUPID! 

Surprise to see only f 150s on the lot all the superduty were sold out i take it lmao 🤣

Blame Obama/Biden for C.A.F.E. Fleet fuel economy standards set in motion during the 2007 growth of a green religion. MFG's rushed new tech and products to enter the assembly line or fines the mfg's had no choice. New investments for tooling, methods, training and maintenance came at a cost to the end user/buyer. Electric cars were ruahed to market to lower the fleet standard fuel economy at lost profit, mfg's killed inefficient vehicles(Ford passenger vehicles), rushed by engineering standards of efficient turbo engines to market, lighter vehicles to improve fuel economy, thinner & less paint that was more enviromentally friendly - yadda yadda yadda. IT ALL COMES AT A COST TO THE BUYER. But yeah do not blame the politician BLAME THE MFG!?!? Don't play into the outrage propaganda of lazy people who simply scream "stick it to the man" - think about it and look deeper or suffer from your own inadequacies while over 40% of politicians become millionaires while in office.

They can't help, the uaw is run by communists and are trying to destroy all American manufacturing

@@William-Bill-Munny bla bla bla now say "stop the steal" before you tie me a balloon animal. nonsense ranting in the chat, always a good laugh.

That $7500 “discount” on the lightning was most likely the federal tax incentive for buying an EV. NOT really a discount from the dealership.

Indeed

Somethings gotta pop, can't keep going like this.

Just bought a rust free 14 Ram 1500 for 10k. 115,000 miles. NEVER pay those stupid prices, and im single and make 130K a year.

​@Jscot1001 my father in law passed, left us his 2014 Silverado. 109k in great shape. We'll drive it forever. If it really took a crap, I'd rather give it a new motor than buy another truck.

It wasn't that long ago when you could get a new pickup for less than $20k. Those were the two door, no crew cab, bare bones trucks though. This is when they still made pickups for working class people. Now pickups are luxury SUVs in era when the SUV has become uncool soccer mom garbage.

Yeah, I hope they all go bankrupt. And come back with a direct consumer model and cut out the middleman BS.

Well said

They are a business and only charged what idiots were willing to finance......not all dealerships are bad please don't stereotype and learn to spell...

Maybe the big dealerships don't rely on repeat customers. In my country they do. Makes for better service too.

Yep

Right on!

Awesome job. I'm 28, trying to my my first new truck to work with. I have two mini excavators to tow. An f250 in Canada is 64k$ BASE model 2023 no cab no 4x4. Hopefully in a few years I can afford one. Sucks being almost 30, and not having any house savings, because I gotta save for a truck first to make money with.

What did you settle on if you don’t mind me asking

@@bravobear1844I hold on my 2016 4Runner TRD Trail. Just did maintenance and oil change so far. I looked few time to buy somethibg new for the kick of it, but new trucks are sensors fest and trouble hugger ... with ridiculous price tag. I will stick on that 4 Runner as long as I possibly can. No turbo crap with small high reving engine. This a strong naturally aspirated V6 4.0.

What do you mean buddy? Good cars are cheaper than ever! You can have Bugatti beating performance, at least from 0-150mph for $89k msrp now in a Tesla model Plaid. If you hate electric cars, you can have Mclaren SLR performance that was $400k msrp in 2005 for only $80-90k now in a c8 corvette. New Ford Maverick trucks are literally cheaper @ base msrp than Ford model T's adjusted for inflation and get 40mpg! Think about how crazy that is, you are getting a truck, free A/C, apple carplay, driver assistance, and reliability for cheaper inflation adjusted price than a Ford model T! IDK why people are so fixated on the price of these gigantic luxury barges. You need to kill a whole herd of cows just to upholster 1 of these bloated trucks. Good performing cars are getting cheaper due to improving tech, materials and labor are not getting cheaper... In 500 years people might be complaining about the cost of space ships, just because the space ships they want to buy are super expensive and are stuffed with Bio-Engineered Mammoth leather and luxury crap that don't add jack squat to its utility. Meanwhile there exists compact sensible space ships made by Toyota that are super reliable and affordable that they ignore.

It's November. WTF are they going to do with the 2024 models when they couldn't sell the 2023 models?? These stealerships deserve to go bankrupt but I fear that the whole intention is to have a "great reset" by destroying the middle class. Once we're priced out of existence, the nation will be like Mexico: there will be only the drug lords and politicians and the poor. There will be no middle class any more and the housing market reflects this too. My parents' old house sold for barely $185,000 when they moved 10 years ago. It was relisted for a ridiculous $385,000. I truly fear I will be homeless because I cannot afford a house that's even smaller than that one. It wasn't anywhere near 1,200 sq ft and a house that's 2,000 sq ft in my city and all of the surrounding cities cost a whopping $250,000 and up. You cannot be "middle class" unless you make $90,000 a year after taxes and living expenses. But the politicians in DC don't care one bit and we are headed for an economic downfall that will make 2009 look amazingly prosperous.

It is very sad that the United States is very expensive. and the poor poorer. the richest richest

​@@JesusMartinez-wm4dkAsk the corrupt oligarchs in congress

Exactly

Pretty sure you won't have a problem selling that house now for over $400k though. Things change. You're house is prob worth triple now. Inflation

@@mobilesolutions4u444 correct I recently appraised mine which was bought for 185k in 2020. Now at 295k.

@@mobilesolutions4u444 Well, therein lies the rub. The U.S. economy has been there twice in the recent past. The mid 80's and the early 2000's. It's a 25 yr cycle that started in the 1980's with Reagan's (largest in history) tax cuts for the rich and trickle down economics THAT NEVER HAPPENED. The economy implodes as it reaches an inflection point and housing is usually the culprit with everything else domino'ing off of that. Lending criteria is relaxed, people ask for and get higher and higher prices while the buyers qualify for the loan and then one day the saturation point is reached and the music stops. Whoever is left holding the mortgage note on the high priced house when the market takes a tumble loses. The rich are insulated completely and just get more rich as they simply step in and buy up all the paper on the foreclosed bank owned properties and make money either way the economy shifts while the middle class shrinks. The rich don't care how much cars cost.

@@mobilesolutions4u444 it sells for $250k currently but sales are really bad right now because nobody wants to pay 8% interest. But that’s still beside the point. If interest rates weren’t so high it’s still a net positive investing in a house. Vehicles depreciate in value. Paying this kind of money for a vehicle is financial suicide

I don't think they are worth even that much.

Your right except it's half -20%.

and that's why they sell them, because a fool and his money are easily parted.

They need to cut the price by two thirds! This is rediculous!

yeah, some of those 60k trucks look like 30-35k pickups, those 100k ones look like 50ish

Bought a Ford maverick brand new in '22 for only $23k that gets 40mpg. In 2022, a Ford Model T adjusted for inflation was $27000. The Ford Maverick is miles and miles better than a Ford model T lol. Very reliable cars are super cheap nowadays. It's just trucks/cars people want are expensive because they are desirable. It's pretty funny honestly how many people always cry about it. These 100k trucks need to kill a whole herd of cows just to get upholstered. New Luxury Vehicles are meant for the wealthy, not the middle class... Cars are so cheap nowadays. Everyone always ignores the option of picking up a 2006 - 2010 Prius with 100k miles for $3000-$4000 that will last for 200k+ more miles and gets you 40+mpg. I bet people in the 1920's would have killed to buy a car for 1/10th the price of a model T that will last them 200k miles even though its used and ugly.

​@seanl764 SO TRUE!!!! My brother (18) bought a 2008 jeep this summer for only 4k, and restored it to perfect condition for only 800 bucks, and now he drives it across the state when traveling with his gf!

@@seanl764 some people need pickup trucks for work. And for them to be reliable. New prices are insane. 50k for a truck? they can kiss my butt.

@@jstegall44There are 40+ 2023 F150 in South Florida under $35k with the 2 door cab, and 20+ 4 door supercab xl under $40k. Idk where you are pulling the numbers from. Maybe your dealer is trying to rip you off. Every single XL trim F-150 whether 2 door or 4 door is under $40k in South Florida.

@@jstegall44And some need them to compensate for other shortcomings.

You do know that $18K in 1998 is worth about $33K today, right? That $57K car today is equivalent to a $31K car back in 1998. The value of your money has gone down, so get used to it.

Yep, in '78 I got a Toyota Hi-Lux with a bench seat for $4800. I had a blast upgrading it myself when I had actual cash. I even put in my own sunroof.

@@ahndeuxyou do know that the example you provided still doesn't come close explaining to the disparity in this video right?

@@ahndeuxyea we understand basic inflation, so you realize that same 31k car they are charging 58k right now. That’s not inflation, that’s a ripoff. Yeah get used to it, what do you work in the NBA? Wall Street? That’s the only places who can say that kinda crap. Everyone else is trying to survive.

@@BrandonGavin_EDC I wouldn't say its the "same" car. Designs change and there might be other differences such as engine size, amenities, electronics, and so on. On top of that, there is also the supply/demand dynamics which is very important. Prices roses up the roof during the covid due to lack of supply and high demand. The prices should have come down, but it hasn't. I have no clue what you even referred to with NBA or the Wall Street. I'm just an average joe blow with a $5K used car that gets me from point A to point B. I didn't say I was stupid enough to buy a new car. I did invest a lot of my retirement money in 401K and the stock market and have done well over the years. Everyone can do it, but many chose not to. Its not crap to say the value of money is going down due to inflation. Its just a fact and reality of life. The government printed over 40% more money during Covid and we are all paying for it in higher prices today. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Get used to it because prices for most food and goods are never going to come down. The prices you see today will more than double in less than 10 years. It's called compound interest.

I still remember when a fully loaded 1988 Chevy Silverado cost roughly $16,000 I would go to the dealership and just sit in them and dream, I wanted one soo bad.

thing is, I would be willing to bet that maybe only 50% of Americans can even afford one. That's probably being generous

Even if I was a millionaire, these are stupid ridiculous prices for something that depreciates at least $10,000.00 as you sign the bottom line to buy it!

@@bweaver760 Depreciates for us but if the dealer has it it's gold, if we attempt to trade anything in all of a sudden it's garbage. Been there done that and through playing their game.

My wife’s grandfather bought a brand new Chevy pickup for $750.00 in 1950! The dollar was worth something then! That same truck in restored condition is worth thousands now. How much will that $150,000 truck be worth in 70 years? It will be scrapped and made into Bud Lite cans.

Why would they sell to him when they have a near endless supply of 20 year old girls who are willing to buy the Ford Bronco because it looks cool

That’s ridiculous!!

@@kenshinhimura9387 That's half the problem as to why these dealers keep this shit up. People actually keep paying these prices instead of just walking.

I quit working at dodge cause they couldn't make any sells, out of greed. I had 8 deals fall through over like 30 bucks a month and they let em walk

its sad, my brother did the same....

People have gotten used to upgrading to a new phone every 6-8 months so, buying a newer vehicle is nothing, even though each exchange is getting them deeper and deeper into debt. These are the same people who always say, _"The rich man keeps getting richer while the poor man can't get ahead."_ They're imbeciles.

I feel like everything in America is at scam levels.

I recently turned 19 and ive already come to the commitment to never buy a car from a dealership. I bought my first car about a year ago and it's a 2005 Volvo XC90 I spent $4500 paid cash. My older sister however bought a Ford fusion from a dealership she wants to get a new car but her she owes more on it then it's worth!! Buying a new car is equivalent to setting your money on fire.

I only buy new. The used vehicle market is shady, everyone lies, people roll back odometers easily, and repairs out of warranty are super expensive. However if I was young I wouldn't be able to afford a new one and the repairs would keep me broke. Also, Toyota's are the only way to go. Only an idiot would buy a $103,000 Ram.

Hell man that 460 will tear a house off the foundation! Amazing trucks

​@@henmaidstalecarfax is an amazing service

Your comment makes zero sense. There is no 10K mark up. It may be too expensive for you but believe me there are plenty of people that are buying in this market. These videos aren't so much about manufacturer disconnect as they are about consumers realizing and bitching that our new economy is pricing them put of the market..

@@just_jake6050 3 years ago you could get a decent f150 for $40-45ish MSRP and there were frequent discounts available up to $10K. That same truck is now pushing $70K and if they were to offer a $10K discount it would still be around $60K. Also taking into consideration the decline in quality, over complicated illogical engineering (i.e. $5500 tail light repairs) these trucks are not a good value proposition. If you think that's a good deal, good for you. I wouldn't pay that, and many people feel the same way.

I herd Ram might be taking 17,000-20,000 off but it's not enough not when there 90,000 and 100 grand.

@@just_jake6050it’s the other way around. Your comment literally makes zero sense. If there was a popular market of rich people throwing money away on overpriced trucks then these lots would be empty. Yet there’s thousands of videos debunking your bs. Nice try.

Actually YOUR comment makes zero sense. The lots are overstocked not sold out. So no there is not unlimited buyers paying whatever while us poor are just locked out on price. Ya tryin too hard, my dude.@@just_jake6050

My first new vehicle was a 2006 Chevy Silverado, loaded with anything you could want. Bought it for $33K….the 2024 trim is triple that price.

I bought a 2016 RAM in 2018. The previous owner left the sticker in the owners manual and the price on it new was 52,000. I got it for 27,000. It's paid off and I will drive that thing until the wheels fall off and then I will weld them back on. I'll have the engine or transmission rebuilt before I pay 75 grand or more for vehicle.

​@@ericpignatore5317Being a truck driver, i'll always rebuild or replace engines/transmissions before I buy a new vehicle to replace an old one. If you just want a new car or truck, so be it, but the smartest thing you can do is rebuild imo.

new ones are crap anyway

It’s better to rebuild and possibly invest in a diesel

I drive a 1994 Silverado and I’m getting ready to put a crate motor in it $4k plus a remanufactured auto transmission, don’t have the source for the tranny yet. Any recommendations?

well if you do the math 5 out of 50 is 10% so 90 % need to go out I think they are hoping buyers are poor at math

It's just going to make things worse. The remaining 55% will think that they have no competition and will simply raise the prices even farther. Some stealerships now demand over $110K for a freaking Ford Raptor. Nope, not today or next year. I'll hang onto my car. They can take their overpriced cars and drive off of a cliff for all I care.

I am not good at math, but I know enough about math to not pay $54k for a work truck. Thanks for the update.

@@karld.5587This guy should go to a Toyota dear Tundra’s are selling for up to $ 110,000 for their top truck it’s greed city across the board foreign and domestic.

And here in my town they keep building new dealerships

Inflation recession- you’re rotting your brain. Stop watching oan, fox,or listening to the tax cheat trump. Recession🤣

Pickup trucks were originally used by contractors and farmers to do heavy work. That was it, as nobody else used pickup trucks besides those two types of businesses. These days, pickup trucks are marketed as a luxury vehicle for upper class suburbanites while real customers (I.e.: contractors) are completely ignored on what we need.

Bought a Ford maverick brand new in '22 for only $23k that gets 40mpg. In 2022, a Ford Model T adjusted for inflation was $27000. The Ford Maverick is miles and miles better than a Ford model T lol. Very reliable cars are super cheap nowadays. It's just trucks/cars people want are expensive because they are desirable. It's pretty funny honestly how many people always cry about it.

@seanl764 the forz maverick is a very good vehicle, but it is absolutely not a full size truck like I was discussing. It is a compact cheap "truck" that's great and hopefully a sign of what's to come.

@@yobb1n544 I don’t understand your point. Full size truck Ford F150 starts at $32k meanwhile a full size Toyota Avalon starts at $36k. The highest end full size truck in Ford’s lineup, the limited trim starts at $83,000. The highest end sedan in Toyota’s lineup is the Lexus LS starting at 80k. People are comparing top of the line luxury trucks and cars to normal non luxury car prices. Trucks are priced very close to their Sedan counterparts, but a little less to their suv counterparts. A good compact truck like the Maverick starts at 22k, a good compact car like the corolla starts at 21k.

Honestly its just a shift in American purchases, more people want big trucks and SUVs now (not that people are hauling more). Car prices seem to be staying more reasonable or even smaller trucks and SUVs, things that would be more then adequate for most people. Im assuming this will switch around again when gas prices start going to more ridiculous levels, but for now even with how much people complain (I dont think their unreasonable compared to the last few decades) those prices arent high enough to change peoples minds.

It's just the latest in performative masculinity. People used to buy trucks because they needed a truck. Now people buy them because trucks look "manly" and "tough." It used to be so rare to see trucks with extended cabs, now it's the norm. That's because what these guys need is really a midsize sedan or a minivan for.picking the kids up at school or soccer practice, but midsizes and minivans aren't cool enough, so they get these monstrosities in stead.

Its coming as the WH denies the economic disaster to boost Bribem's sinking ratings.

Ironically, interest rates have been raising BECAUSE inflation has been increasing. It's a double whammy. They need to either lower their prices or sell fewer trucks.

@@lesliefranklin1870they already bought them 😂 let them suffer

@@lesliefranklin1870 Yes. This is not due to inflation. All the car makers have been reaching record profits. They continued to sell loaded up pickups and thought it was an endless feast of profits.

@@DW-ts3wd It's worse than that. Typically, a car dealership buys cars on a special finance plan called "flooring". If they sell the vehicle in a short time, the financing is free. However, if they don't, they get charged a percentage every month that car is on their lot. With stale inventory, that can add up quickly.

I think I`ll just buy a Ferrari.

You would be right about ten years ago unfortunately

He even pointed out the 6 figure RAM wasn’t even top model.

Now, when I see a guy driving one of these empty trucks on a bone dry road.....I see an even bigger idiot than I did before.

50k? That’s a basic one today. Insane but true. Dodge is the cheapest but it’s also the cheapest.

Those cars a junk also

Those trucks are more than I paid for a house 30 years ago.

Absolute insanity !

Houses are just as awful. A LOT of houses in my state are under 800 sq ft, have NO garage and START at $200K and up. Despicable. My parents once had a 1,200 sq ft house that had a 2 car garage and pool and it was less than $200k! One day we will all be homeless with no cars because we can't afford anything even if we make $60K a year.

It's amazing that people actually pay $400 plus a month for a vehicle.

These high prices aren't due to inflation. The car makers have been making record profits.

Well put!

I just bought a truck that was probably around $60k new in 2021 for $30k. Excellent condition/history, feels like new, I can't understand why anyone would buy new.

The PROBLEM is, when the NEW MARKET is out of Whack, the used market Follows. People KEEP them longer when they cost so much, they finance them 8 years, it takes them FOREVER to get them PAID DOWN so they CAN SELL IT. In my area, it is IMPOSSBLE to buy an F-350 "worth the money" with LOW MILES. I need Dual Wheels on mine, I do NOT want 4-wheel drive. I am on a farm too. I have tractors if I do need to "get in the mud". I do NOT want to tear my HIGHWAY truck up in the MUD. Anyone that pays over $100,000 or even over $50,000 for a new truck ought to lose their money and go BROKE. Of course, they are all FINANCED, when the next Correction comes there may be a LOT of them for sale then,

I finally had enough spare money to put down for another Mustang. Wanted a manual, V8, convertible. Was going to buy new or within 5 years old. Found my 08 GT with only 30K miles for $14K. Saved me $40K and years of payments. You said it, I don't know why people buy new.@@ienjoyapples

I bought used from a dealer. Beginning of the year, I bought a 2019 Mazda3 hatchback with AWD for $22,300 with 18,500 miles on the clock. Little fun car, handles great once I ditched the OE Toyo for some grippy Pirelli P Zero and shed 4lbs on each tire. It's a 2019 base model (2023 it's the 2.5S Preferred, 3rd trim level) which is pretty well equipped for a base model. Leather steering wheel and shifter, HQ back up cam, 10.3" info, android auto, lane departure, lane keep assist, auto emergency braking, blind spot, mirror blinkers, rain sensor, dual climate, best leatherette seats I've seen, with a leatherette wrapped dash, etc,. Anyway, I got a steal on it considering the mileage, CPO, clean car fax, full service history, extended 7 years 100k mile powertrain warranty. KBB had it listed at $26,700. Now if I were to buy it brand new, 2023 AWD Hatchback same exact spec, it would've cost me $32,200! $32,200 for a car that was initially $26,000 in 2019. A turbo model would've cost me $40,000 because of markups. No thanks, I love the performance and fun factor of small hatches, but $32-40k is a terrible investment. Not to mention the long wait because there was none in stock. I'm planning on keeping this car for over 10 years because the car market and prices are absurd and I can't imagine it going down with inflation. Most Americans are struggling just juggling a car payment, add mortgage or rent and it's devastating in today's economy. I kept my E90 BMW for almost 12 years, did most of the wrenching myself. Gave it to my sister and still do the maintenance for her. I plan on doing it with this car. I'll do little modifications to suit my driving needs over the years, EBC brake pads, gravity battery, rotary forged wheels, maybe an exhaust, and it'll still be a lot cheaper than buying new. Shame on these dealers and car manufactures for stealing from the people.

And MSRP means absolutely nothing. Several years ago I was in need of a new range. My old one wasn't dead dead but, dying so, I had some time. I watched the sales price on a specific stand alone range for a year - wrote all the info in a sticky note and everything so the internet couldn't gaslight me. Through every single holiday sales special the range was listed for the exact same price; $630. The only thing that changed was the MSRP that was crossed out - -$730- , -$799- , -$750- , etc. Even on non holiday days the price was $630 so, it didn't matter when I bought it. I wasn't "going to miss out!"

It’s crazy now

Bought a Ford maverick truck brand new in '22 for only $23k that gets 40mpg. In 2022, a Ford Model T adjusted for inflation was $27000. The Ford Maverick is miles and miles better than a Ford model T lol. Very reliable cars are super cheap nowadays. It's just trucks/cars people want are expensive because they are desirable. It's pretty funny honestly how many people always cry about it. These 100k trucks need to kill a whole herd of cows just to get upholstered. New Luxury Vehicles are meant for the wealthy, not the middle class... I don't know why the middle class American is looking to buy one of those trucks. Cars are so cheap nowadays. Everyone always ignores the option of picking up a 2006 - 2010 Prius with 100k miles for $3000-$4000 that will last for 200k+ more miles and gets you 40+mpg. I bet people in the 1920's would have killed to buy a car for 1/10th the price of a model T that will last them 200k miles even though its used and ugly. There are so many cars under 27k, (most of Nissan's /Hyundai/Kia lineup) that is in my opinion, much better, reliable, and well optioned than what you get from a Ford model T...

House builders are intentionally cutting back HARD to drive prices into the skies. EVERY house in my neighborhood is overpriced by a whopping $100K. We are heading for a financial downturn that will be PERMANENT. It's too late to do anything about it. I fear I will never be able to buy a house. A crappy 900 sq ft house with NO garage in my state sells for an average of $200,000. Thank Californians POURING into the state every week. It will collapse too.

@@seanl764 the model T went down in price. 10 years after it was introduced, it cost $260, or $4,000 adjusted for inflation.

@@connor_flanigan Well then. A used Prius is around $4000 and that will last you for 300k-400k miles and saves you on gas and insurance. It also has AC and Speakers which the model T lacks and is much much faster.

I leased a 21 Tacoma, I will just buy it out once a it’s up after seeing all the new truck prices.

Same with me and my 2014 Frontier.

And they wonder why people are buying a 4cyl Kia with 7yrs warranty for $20K... lol.

Ford loses value bad. Tacoma and Z71 maintains its value.

@@ozymandias7940 I bought a 2022 Kia Telluride last year for $38,000 cash. My wife and I have been driving Kia's for 15 years now. American cars can't come close to the trim package, performance, safety or quality for anywhere near that. They're just nice cars and aren't $50,000. I just refuse to pay that much money for something I'm going to have for 10 to 15 years that's not worth anything at the end.

You did not order it from the factory. The dealer ordered it from the factory for you.

Dude , people have stopped buying them. Look at the amount of vehicles on these lots. The only guys buying these are the ones worried their wives will leave them if they don't keep up to the Jones'. Whoever the fuck the Jones are?

@@jeffersonprice3800 It's Idaho, they love thier trucks here and seem to take pride in how much they overpay.

Well they are still buying them in Texas where I live but not me I’m keeping my one owner 1987 pickup truck with 85k miles on it and I’ve always kept it in the garage. Everything is original except tires. Spare tire is original and never been on the ground. This truck will be taking me to my grave not the hearse. 🤣

@@czechmate6916 You forgot what trucks were built for.

@@SophiaAphrodite I didn’t forget anything maybe you did. Go away troll!!

Why would you buy such an expensive car/truck if you have to finance it? That’s just stupid. Financing a house, ok I get that, but I’d never finance a car.

That extra 2k would help you pay off your mortgage early.

A 60 month car loan at all is insane

@@NoDontLikeIt everyone I know who buys a new vehicle finances it. Back before when interest rates were normal I did as well. Not everybody can or wants to buy a new vehicle with their own cash all at once.

@@NoDontLikeItwhy? Work? They want to? Idk. Why do you do anything that’s not the most efficient option at any given time? Lol

UAW is striking for $65 an hour. You do the math...

They have income for payments but otherwise are broke. 😅

A lot of people have refinanceed their houses and borrowed the equity, so they owe more on their house than they actually paid for it. But they can afford a nice car so everyone thinks they are rich. Otherwise, they are like my neighbor and lease them so they can have their status symbol that they don't actually own.

@@mikegee729 🐂💩. Source? Misinformation. NO ONE is asking for $65 hour. That would double our current pay🤪 Show me where we asked for a 100% pay raise! We asked to be around $40 over the LIFE of the contract. You are commenting on a topic you clearly know nothing about.

@@ollietamuff3340you guys should ask for a pay decrease

Yep, i was in the market for a new truck in 2017..instead i restomodded a 1970 c20 longbed and it is used as a TRUCK..cost me $17k ...all said and done. Now i am resto-modding an 86 K10 and should have a good-looking functional 4x4 for under $22k. ...Two REAL trucks for much less than a single disposable pavement queen

Yup, a work truck that's now a status symbol to cart the family around in. 🙄 Meantime the person that needs a new work truck is screwed. This sector of the industry needs to be gutted something fierce, but that'll only happen when the masses stop buying and leasing them.

​@@signkutter9218 Now, the only thing that you need is a Nav/Radio screen.

They only became unaffordable for guys like you. I never wanted a 25k basic pick up truck. I use to get laughed at for saying "they should offer higher trim levels and options. People will buy them". I was right and your comment proves that. But people are not forced to buy "unaffordable" trucks. They can fix their old one or get something else.

@@Motleymick they can "get something else", like what? If all trucks are way overpriced and can't fit into the working man's budget, what is the alternative? Used trucks have doubled in price too. They need to offer real trucks with less options on them. I'm not talking about stripping down all of the options and selling it for $5,000 less. I'm talking about offering a truck at half the price. People are struggling to afford groceries, we don't have room for a $1500/month truck payment.

😂

Adding markup is like the government taxing you 4 times on the same money; income, sales, property and investments.

Yeah they are middle men

same

That’s what they want. When the vehicle gets to the end of the warranty they want you to trade it in a buy another new vehicle.

spend less and get a low miles 80s or early 90s truck. parts still around easier to work on. sure no heated seats but 70k or so less.

​@@kingshanethe1st You can add heated seats to almost anything with aftermarket kits for a few hundred dollars

@@justinheffernan1 that is true, I guess I don't care for such things and think maybe others shouldn't as well. My point is get some thing with less options (older trucks with manual windows, mechanical 4x4 etc) which means less things to break and trips to a repair shop because everything today vehicles are made so most can not work on them at home. specialty tools and such. Overall these prices are crazy along with housing I do not know how they sell any of these high priced items.

I'm dumbfounded that your average joe is probably taking out 6, 7, even 8 year loans on these overpriced trucks. Your average F-150, Silverado/GMC, and RAM is not gonna last that long before requiring extensive repairs. Imagine 5 years in, still owing $38,000 on your truck that you probably couldn't even sell for $20,000 and your manifolds, exhaust hoses and cylinder heads all fuck up. It's gonna be fun watching all these angry middle age blue collar men trying to fix their American POS trucks they still have a mortgage on 😂😂😂

Amen! And a second amen for calling it a Dodge and not a Ram!

@@christianrobloxserver7282 funny thing is my Ridgeline is better quality for the money and it was actually build in the USA.

Well a Dodge Viper ACR. But that car is in super car territory.

This world!!!

The people dumb enough to buy these trucks need to be called out too.

⁠@@makingadjustments”I get mad when people spend their money the way they want to”

​@@carbonzo6ur dumb. He and many others need em for work. NEED. That means that people who want them are driving up costs for small business owners for no fucking reason. So yeah.. fuck those dipshits who spend their money on trucks they dont need.

​@@carbonzo6I actually get mad being I have to hear dumbasses complain that they can't afford anything because they constantly buy shit they don't need so they complain like it's someone else's fault.

Former professional mechanic here. I wouldn't buy any car made in the last 10 years. They're packed full of featureless features that will be impossible to repair by the time they hit 10 years of age. And the basic features that have been in cars for the last 40 years don't work properly. Why would I buy an infotainment system from any company that can't make a damn door latch?

​@@bobhotchkiss2438I honestly wonder how these vehicles with touch screens and LCD panels instead of instrument clusters are going to hold up in 20 years. I mean, what do you do when you can no longer get replacement LCD panels and shit for 20-year-old electronic systems?

That's their intent. They design cars to last for 5 years because that's when the car makers actually make money from them. They don't care if it lasts any longer than that. But the variety of electronic systems that's in these cars, it'ls impossible for the aftermarket to support them in the long run. The only source of repair parts for those systems will be wrecked cars. And some of these cars will not function without those electronics - they're not going to be repairable in the long run. @@aaronwells6608

@@aaronwells6608 I was saying that 20 years ago but there are some after market solutions that replace those earlier systems. Sometimes there are work around too, but not if you want to keep the vehicle original. My friend has a BWM X5 with half the dash lights on and other things not working but they keep it going.

@@bobhotchkiss2438 Heavy equipment is much worse.

I saw a late model used Nissan Titan on Autotrader on Sunday that I was interested in for $35,977. I looked up the price history. It had been on the lot for 127 days. In July they had originally listed it for $39,977, and then incrementally dropped the price each month. Good, I thought. Next day I go to check the listing again to look for more details, and found they had jacked the price back up to $39,977. $4000 overnight! What logic is that? I said to hell with those crooks. They can keep it.

@@ArnoldsDesign Doesn't matter what they are listing it for, you go and offer $34K, more than likely they will take it, you just need to try, if not, leave and they can pound sand.

Jokes on you. Look at the trucks they sell. There's a reason they price them this high, people pay!

The people running those companies come from some of the “best schools”, shows the quality of modern day US education.

@@UnboxingEngineer In 2023 America consumers are wimps. People are literally scared of negotiating. Serves them right.

This should be the top post. They are getting away with it because people are letting them.

Smaller business owners buy these trucks as a tax write off. Start a LLC, buy the truck, lose money and claim the tax breaks.

You nailed it. Dealers know buyer's weekenesses. The old saying: if we build it, they will buy it.

lol what happens?

I do the same thing with hiring managers.

@@subaruamazon Stunned silence, then uproarious laughter 😂 😂😂😂😂😂

@@briancharters8720 so let the cars sit. I sold cars in college. I like your idea of putting your name out there. I bet u can get a car for 1000 over cost at the end of the month.

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Yes sir been buying new since 1981 . It was nothing in December to February to get 10 to 14 grand off. I've bought about 20 new ones.

Also increasing parts prices substantially. Needed a thermostat for a 1996 Ranger 4 liter . $89.00. Must include the housing .Nope. Napa for $14.00. Usually still try to buy Ford OE especially for my Powerstrokes. Still cheaper by far to keep up with maintenance than buy new.

U cant do that forever without pricing urself completely out of business. Inflation wont mean much as a bullshit justification when people are choosing between rent and food or mortgage and food

o well

If they have too much supply & not enough demand they will “dump” them cheap. Win for us :)

If they give the UAW a 25 percent wage increase. You know the prices will go up even more.

he is mainly talking about the Absurd MSRP on the sticker though, if you are sticking with this video.

It's not the dealerships. It's the damned greedy manufacturers.

@@donm-tv8cm How is it the phuckin manufacturers? They set a price and send it to the dealers and in return the dealers raise prices because they could. Manufacturers are like you can raise your prices, but if they don’t sale don’t expect us to bail you out and send you newer models. Also the dealerships already paid for the rides on their lots. That’s why they do as they please. Also the problem comes when they cannot sale cars then the manufacturers suggest to them to lower the prices otherwise you won’t get newer vehicles.

@BlakWiseCracker quite simple: they set the "phuckin" MSRP (do note the "M" in there) -- a number that has been skyrocketing for many years much faster than inflation. Yes, dealers add to that MSRP with all their mostly worthless add-ons, but the MSRP is the base they start from.

I worked at dealerships and they would F you in the A if they thought, they could get another dollar out of you.

You'd have to be someone with no money worries, for whatever reason, or a leftist bot with an IQ of fifty to "buy" - pardon the pun - into this EV BULLSHIT. No one wants them, they are MORE than impractical, they can't be produced without MORE damage go the "global crisis" - 😂😂😂😂😂" and they literally have been proven to not be even remotely realistic. Don't tell the MSNBC sheep that though. Oh, and OMB and stuff too ........

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@@rjmurphyo0 I am an Asian and I went with my dad to buy a new car 7 years ago in South Florida. We haggled for 6 hours at the Mercedes Dealership a year after the GLC came out. We got $3k below msrp, floormats, panoramic sunroof, dealer fees, and in the end we even got them to throw in 2 years of free maintenance with 0% apr financing for 48 months. I remember we went on a Wednesday or a Tuesday with no one around that day with a couple days left until New Year, and the salesman decided to stop us every time we were going to leave.

@@seanl764 you fit into the rich Asian stereotype lol. you all rich or something?

Mister Dave Ramsey is a fraud. Just checkout his advice for getting out of a timeshare.

103K for a vehicle is fucking crazy

You could buy a used Bentley for these prices 😅

That's exactly what a friend of mine did, he has maybe 5.5k into it.

@@popcorn8153 It better be able to go 200mph for that money.

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm looking at trucks now, and I can easily find things with only 100-120k miles for 5k-8k. Totally reasonable compared to the new shit. I could literally buy 10-20 trucks for the price of a new one, combined, that would probably give me 500k- a million miles of driving for the price.

Been buying new cars and trucks since 1981 it's a shame what these dealers are doing. People need to educate themselves. Dealers in Cleveland still have mark ups. I'm waiting.

The MSRP itself is ridiculous.

GREAT Comments !!!

@@anthonydorazio9650 NJ here. never bought a new car. bought my nicest used one in 2018 luckily before the covid. the problem is some people are still buying new stuff even with all the markups and not giving manuf. and dealers a good lesson. I think the interest rates, obscene prices and negative equity dealers did to their customers eventually has to catch up with them if it hasnt already. then u see honda and toyota and everything is sold. makes no sense.

@@subaruamazonI never bought new. Most I ever did was buy a 2 year old car with 10k miles and 2 year warranty for a third of the original price.

you're playing right into their hands. THEY WANT THESE VEHICLES GONE!

When its over China will be the only place making cars. You wont like them ether.

Ha That's a joke. Americans cant help but consume no matter the price

@@livewire2k4You mean they want them off the market and not to exist?

I mean that's partly why used car prices are out of whack

That's awesome. I had a 06 Nissan Titan that I bought brand new. Had that truck for almost 18 years until I recently was involved in an accident, and they totaled it. Because of high truck prices, I decided to keep it for a while longer. Cosmetically, it looked tough, but it ran fine. I'm so pissed.

Exactly and you probably use it for the intended purpose as a pickup work truck. Over $100,000 that could be a major downpayment on a house just stupid to even consider any vehicle for that amount of money. They don't look at cars the way you and I do having them for over a decade or more. Yes my Honda has pealing paint and a shit ton of miles on it but that's the reason I bought it knowing that it's going to be years before I buy another vehicle. With the price of gas right now it would be ludicrous speed GO!!!! for any of these big gas guzzlers

As long as you got yours 20 years ago who cares about what the next generation will deal with

I have a 2020 Tundra. I hope it's lasts forever

@@anon2427 Actually I do care because my kids and their kids struggle to survive today as I suppose you do. Thus my comment of finding these truck prices absurd.

I am relieved I am not the only one who didn't forget that. I also see that coming too! Ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

This is so much the answer. Buying a new vehicle or not, we are all going to end up paying these prices when we bail them out again.

Those car companies should not have been bailed out. Let the economy decide and it'll sort out the losers letting others rise to the top or make way for new competition.

They'll probably get bailed out again..

Privatized gains and socialized losses.

The ole bait and switch

@@jarrodschaub4913 lol, for sure.

Nope. I hate liars, and you lied to get me here. Bye!

Too funny when you go and look at vehicles they think you want to sit down and start paperwork within like 30 seconds of the start of your car search mfers

you don't know their financial situation - they may have paid cash. worry about yourself not someone else's money

​@@sterlingmarshel6299I'm going to bet on they're so far buried in debt that they will die on the Walmart floor because they will never retire from buying stupid shit their entire lives.

Honestly, if the rest of the truck is in good shape, repowering it makes much more sense financially.

haha. Brand new is such a ripoff. I've always bought used. Better deals to be had. You're totally spot on, pre 2020 cars had somewhat tolerable prices.

Used stuff is a ripoff too. Sometimes even worse because it will have 45k miles on it and only be maybe 4 grand less than a new model.@@MotorFeed

Hustled

lol an extra car at the end

@@yoced1468 that’s a mortgage payment for most. Extract car at the end would be the least they could do 😂

I'm curious what the term lengths for loans are these days, I think 72 months is a short loan these days. I'm curious if 84+ month loans are the new norm?

@@ljshoreslokal wow. I guess it start being like home loans soon 🙈

Um, the Japanese are not any cheaper. Now we're seeing Hondas going for a whopping $45K and up. ALL brands are working to rip us off as much as they can, including Tesla.

These prices price the vast majority of people out of the market. Those trucks are going to sit there for years. This is not a sustainable situation, the average income in America is 30k-45k. Those people will not be able to buy these trucks no matter what interest rates are.

@@xerxes8632I make four times that and I can’t afford it. I could if I didn’t have kids but I still wouldn’t pay that much for a decimating asset that requires constant maintenance.

@fishy2939 the target market is people who can't afford it. But gotta keep up with the Jeffersons. So Prideful people.