Debunking Flat Earther's faked ISS 

How you know the video not recorded to make it seem its live?

The woman astroliars hair is stupid.

I'll ask you to stop mocking indigenous peoples, isolated tribes, and the like (e.g. the North Sentinalese, lost South American tribes). We need diversity of thought in this world. Global communications have been making extinct many culture and practices, and we are fast becoming an indistinguishable blob. What a terrible loss of human diversity! STOP MOCKING THESE PEOPLE! Leave them be. If they want to think the earth is flat, so be it. Now, as for so-called "Flat Earthers" in the developed world, they are the equivalent of "Trekkie's." No one at a Las Vegas Star Trek convention believes the people walking around in costumes are real Klingons or Romulins. It's entertainment! They have conventions, merch, video games, clubs, etc. Well, the same is true for the developed world "Flat Earthers." Its entertainment! They're having fun. And for your information, intellectual clergy were among the FIRST people to study astronomy and postulate a sun-centered solar system, spherical earth. Yes, there were some isolated cases where the Church powers were abused by bad actors (just ask Galileo!), but it is simply not true that the Christian Faith preaches to this day that the earth is flat...or ever. SIMPLY NOT TRUE! That is part of the historical record. So your mockery of Christianity is historically inaccurate. At best you can snicker at them for being goofy like people snicker at the Trekkies, if that makes you feel superior. But STOP mocking indigenous peoples and spreading lies about the role of the Church in science.

​​@triple boostard Because we aren't dumb.

@@tripleboostard2022 That would be on you to demonstrate. Good luck.

It's dunning Kruger to its max. Lmao. They are experts in computer graphics now...trust me, they did 10 to 20 minutes of "research" where someone told them what to believe on a video one time.

And why such tremendous efforts just to fool a small group of people?

@@CarinaPrimaBallerina because they wanna feel special and they are the small minority that isnt brainwashed by the government yet.. They openly say that aswell.

Cos it's all about lying for the baby jesus and nothing whatsoever about making a case for alternative science.

@@MrJiffytiffy, I think you are giving flerfs way too much credit! They definitely don’t spend 10-20 minutes “researching”. They simply hear another uneducated numpty say something really silly and then claim it as fact. Research to them is hearing something, repeating it as fact(if.. and only if it agrees with their preselected conclusion), being debunked thoroughly with little to no effort, and nu-uhing anything they don’t like.

Deniers on Friday: “the video exists, so it’s faked.”

Deniers on wednesday: "thousands of alien ships are flying around the ISS, but I don't see anything

Deniers on Thursday: the video is fake because shadows exist

THE VIDEO IS RAPPING ME !!!

In that time scale (one day) NASA "earned" $700million.

There will always be someone who believes in some ridiculous things, we are lucky to have as much intelligent people as we do.

LOLOL....How do you ignore the guy in the USMC shirt pulling on the string???LOLOL....Wow, I didnt realize Dave McKeegan was such a dunce

@@philindeblanc LOLOL....How did NASA ignore the guy in the USMC shirt pulling on the string???LOLOL....Wow, I didnt realize NASA was such a dunce

@@2nd3rd1st NASA we know is full of BS and fakery, but this POS Dave is taking it to next level gaslighting and completely ignoring material people have sent him. He should be punished.

Hell, I even took a picture of it!

Its on purpose to muddy the waters. They want this argument for more division. They know most will never accept being fooled. They know you better than you know yourself bud. Dont forget your boosters 😂

Yeah. If it was cgi, it would mean they created the glitches sort of on purpose in the first place. Which i think they did, so they could laugh about what Flat earthers would make of it.

I mean you literally can find the answer in comments here. Half of y’all saying what you did. The other half is saying “with thousands of hours of evidence how can it be denied” lol No one said they’re ALL done with ALL CGIA BTW Anyways *with thousands of hours of evidence* it would only be a matter of time till human error leads to something only a cOnSpIrAcy TheOrIsT would catch 🤔

Not only that, their 'model of FE' does not allow them to go beyond their dome, so they are stinking jealous that they did not come up with a solution before they showed their 'model'. So they try to drag everything down, it is sickening.

The conspiracy can only be as smart as the idiot uncovering it.

Oh yeah. Especially all those ISS tours, which are usually done in one long uninterrupted take, taking us across the _entire_ station.

Cherry-picking

You don’t even need all that. Just watch Chris Hadfield sing “Space Odyssey”. Finished watching? Good, it’s a great video. Now, watch it again but look at the watch on his left wrist. EDIT: Just for the record, not a Flat Earther. I didn't realize his watch jangling around in whatever direction it pleases, unlike anything having to deal with gravity ever could, was something Flerfs would think proves their argument. Apologies for the confusion. The Earth is round.

@@pretzelbomb6105 no.

@@Jan_Strzelecki such a video does not exist.

What about the mathematical proof that the earth is round? Where’s your mathematical evidence that it’s flat? How long have you been a scientist? How long have you studied the earth?

@@wildonstokes huh?

@@utes5532 how long have you studied space? You said nasa is lying so how long have you been studying space?

@@wildonstokes Reread that comment a couple times buddy, he didn't say NASA is lying.

@@kirkkerman he did by basically saying they’re faking the space landing dummy

It's actually INTRAFRAME and such. Compression but not the likes you find in DVD but Livestreams. Captain D... explains it well

@@FizzleFX the differences between DVD and livestreams tend to be the resolution and amount of compression. Although for livestreams that is mostly reliant on your bandwidth because both can be tailored to the client's capability.

Imagine being this gullible.

There is even a software to remove keyframes from video, so everything that is left are the diff data. It is obviously very "LSD-like".

Saw a baseball game once and the video tore and glitched like that. Most impressive slide into home plate/rainbow madness/stands I've ever seen. Only lasted a second but it was a full acid trip as it happened!🤣

​@@jansvanda Messing with videos in that way is a whole trend right now that's gotten big enough to make it to tiktok. People use those blurry compression smears to add effect or just morph between shots as a joke

Yay! Artifacts!

If you do a search for "Datamoshing," you'll find there's a pretty robust community out there that has turned these artifacts into an artform.

Video artifacts are the only facts these ridiculous flat-earth buffoons seem to care about.

MPEG compression, JPG artefacts, lens flares, cheap cameras, etc. Proof of conspiracies seems to always be found in low-quality footage that's ambiguous to interpret.

also seem to be correct,.... EVERY TIME loll.... so,.. whos the dumb ones again? remember before they admitted about aliens,... and all the jokes made,... fa,ilies ruined,.. then come out and say yeeea they here loll... nit wits man.

Always amazes me that they will happily accept "special effects problems" but dismiss out of hand the possibility of actual video fakery.

@@maxlevel1489 maybe they're faking the special effect problems

@@maxlevel1489 dismissed because of lack of evidence. just like your brain.

Its because it doesn't fit into their rabbit hole world view that the government, big business, "someone", is trying to control them, when what is actually happening is that a few small minded but persuasive people are playing on their fears to cause disruption in any way they can using people who are gullible. But the darker side to this is people convincing others that their democracy is in danger from "others" when it is actually in danger from the people doing the convincing......sound familiar? If people believe in a flat earth they are most of the way down the hole to start with. And don't forget many of these convincers are making a very lucrative living convincing the gullible.

they went to the moon in the 60's but cant stop mistakes in this day and age of tech. With almost 70 million a day paycheck i could do better

So you admit that your field of expertise is special effects on productions "set in space" ... BUSTED!!! There you have it folks, one of the guys who works on the fake videos and is responsible for the sloppy work!!! You must be paid quite handsomely to maintain the cover-up and the lies 😏 I'm just goofing around. 😁🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm an audio engineer and I specialize in film and TV post-production. Sound is a Lot easier to fake than video because the brain can be fooled with sounds that are "close enough" to the actual sound while actually being something completely different 😉

@@vladpadowicz5946 oh jeez, that was a very convincing flat earther impression!

@@vladpadowicz5946 phew! I almost thought you were a flerf for a second

yeah, same happend to me when i tell them im spiderman

It doesnt matter what your expertise or title is if all you are going to do with it is deceive people.

anyone who regularly watches streamers or does zoom meetings has seen those glitches hundreds of times.

Lol artifacts.

@@GreatNewsVideo lmao now i've imagined indiana jones with a video glitch in hands running lmao

In the minds of a flat earther... "Guys what about this sh*tty CGI glitch in the end? - Nah leave it bro they're dumb and nobody's gonna understand it's CGI - Oh okay. And for that snake tongue on our logo...? - Yeah they're so dumb we have to give hints about our lies - To destroy our millenia-long conspiracy. - Yeah!"

And what's worse is that CGI artist could never put this on their resume. Why would they take the job? If I did such convincing CGI that I fooled 2 generations of people into thinking space was real I'd really want to put that on a resume.

Yup, this is why we all know that none of this is about the actual conspiracy its about these guys feeling special and better than everyone. NASA which apparently has a unlimited budget for CGI and is full of smart people makes all of these super noticeable mistakes and only these internet geniuses can detect them and put the pieces together.

@@LiperioHK And will also choose an acronym that means "to deceive" so that no one will know we want to deceive them.

@@zman245 It’s a bit like the “Paul McCartney is really dead” conspiracy theory, yet there are supposedly hundreds of careless “ clues”…

@@niktes3337 i shouldn't even bother but you don't know what research means. How many studies have you actually conducted? Metastudies? Can you accurately assess the value of a research paper, do you check the institute behind the paper for biases, the people involved as well? Because that's research. Just looking at things and making statements is the opposite of that. I work in a university and I'm a researcher, it's part of my job and of my hobbies so yes; I have done my research.

That’s true but it’s also easy to see untruths when you’ve been told your entire life that it is true.

Very well put

we dont need to know eveithing to be able to watch cables pulling shirts ,.. do you thing we are turds

@germanhernandezm.7435 I think that you're following the wrong people to the wrong conclusions if you don't believe in space or the ISS. There is plenty wrong with the world, a lot of people have a lot more power and money than they should have but it's not some shadowy cabal inventing space as a lie, it's people openly running enormous corporations that you should be mad at.

Seeing something in the sky doesn’t prove that people are orbiting the earth at 17000 mph

​@@chainlink2348yeah, but it's at least real ! That's the entire point ! You can eaven open up Newtonian telescopes to see how empty they are. Infact, Newtonian telescopes have a primar parabolic mirror, a secondary mirror and a lens.

@@chainlink2348 Yes it does.

So what, there is something out there.....doesnt make these video they put out any less fake.

Thats really cool what kind of videos do you work on? I've only ever met a handful of people who work on or with computers it's pretty rare where I'm from

Correct

They’re so paranoid yet so quick to believe the first thing they see without thinking any further. No wonder it’s such a dangerous mindset

We all could be rich if flat earthers starts claiming they know anything about stocks and tell which to not buy, which 100% the ones we should buy.

Speaking of shadows ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KdauBLH4z0M.html

And they may in fact, be doubting a shadow

I guess this should be Toon's law of flerfers #13, or something like that. If it isn't already a Toon's law

Guess there are many hours of footage that don’t show these artifacts. However when the flerfies present photographic evidence that we “see to far”, their images are not seldom compressed, cropped, or taken under heavy atmospheric condition with loads of refraction.

Yea, those "low kbps" moments showing actual wire harnesses, it all "video compression".

@@maxlevel1489 common flerfer L: choosing the most convoluted explanation out of all possible explanations

@@maxlevel1489 Since no video has yet shown "actual wire harnesses" on the ISS your comment was pointless.

@@maxlevel1489 you know that, of all conspiracy theories, you chose the absolute dumbest, right? How do you remember to breathe?

😂 no one has been there stop it

​@TransitionedToAShark Prove that no ones been there.

@@sparehead8911You just gotta believe him, man. He is just correct, because he said so

Not to mention the fact that the increased radiation caused by being in space with no ozone layer corrupts the computer data much faster, so most technology on the ISS is either very old and built to last with cosmic rays in mind, or is broken due to the data corruption caused

" keyframe data corruption" is also known as "evidence of fakery". Why NASA would choose to use low grade quality video is beyond me.

@@beckydoesit9331 If they were faking it, they wouldn't use it. If they were, say, recording a live interview, they would use the genuine video of the astronauts in the ISS, no matter if the video is slightly corrupted or not. The very fact that it "Looks fake! Those idiots at NASA use the WORST fakery!" Means they aren't faking it, because for an association that gets allocated billions every year, that sure is a shoddy 'cover up' of their 'editing'. Saying it's fake is just a denial of the fact that A: They are in space, and B: that the earth is not some ridiculous disk.

@becky doesit Refer to the comment above. And with data being not that easy to transfer there are more important things to send that that.

The same thing happens with satellite and cable TV. When you drop packets of video, the computer (your tuner box for TV) will attempt to rebuild the information based on what it does have. Since the video is an ever changing data stream this results in the computer lagging behind the incoming data. That lag is what leads to the distortion.

I love how some claim that the astronauts are just inside one of those planes that simulates zero-g by climbing really high and then diving really fast. Which that dive usually lasts less than a minute, so not really accounting for the streams that go on for much, much longer

@@RazgrizXMG0079 while also destroying their claim that gravity doesn't exist.

@@RazgrizXMG0079 Interesting to me is the fact those zero-g aircraft follow a parabolic flight path, in three parts. The first part of each parabola is a rapid climb from level flight starting at ~350 KIAS (briefly achieving 38-47 degrees 'nose-up' angle/+1.8g) from ~7000m altitude. The second part includes the aircraft slowing down and levelling off as it approaches a peak altitude of ~9500m.. The aircraft then noses over and dives (at a nose-down angle of 38-47 degree/-1.8g max) to complete the third part of the manoeuvre. Each climb and dive section last ~20-25 seconds. The middle portion of the manoeuvre, the zero-g or more accurately the micro-g part, lasts about 25-30+ seconds. Flerfs probably can't understand how ANY of that works!

​@@Jabbatic If you run the numbers you can work out the theoretical limits and I think I worked out that they fly pretty close, with a surprisingly small safety margin. I think they only have about another 20 seconds before the parabola would require them to dive past the speed limit of the aircraft. But before that (something like 35 seconds of diving at freefall speed), you pass the point where you're diving so fast and are so close to the ground, that the pull-up maneuver would be pushing the g-limit of the aircraft. So yeah, there are plenty of unedited videos where the wings would be coming off a zero-g plane well before the end. And then at around 50-60 seconds, the plane would suddenly become a hole in the ground.

Sometimes it's underwater too haha

nono you misunderstand. the astronauts clothes are fake too. they're actually in all green paint, so even the clothes can be CG'd live on them. i mean, obviously. because thats a totally reasonable way to fake a livestream.

These same conspiracy theorists will complain about how much money NASA receives- but never question why then NASA does not spend more on better video editors.

@@chameleon47 why should they? Clearly it's enough to fool 99% of the population 🤣

@@Jehty_ I know, right? They've also got us 99% fooled that higher I.Q. scores means we are more intelligent, and that education about a subject somehow matters before one professes to be an expert about it.

@@chameleon47 LMAO NICE

One thing flat-earthers neglect : there are space agencies all over the world. Remember what the I in ISS stands for ? I'd like to know how many highly educated people worked on the James Webb telescope, how many companies in USA, Canada, Europe, joined their efforts to design, build and launch this incredible piece of technology. Millions of competent astronomers in the world are waiting for its images. I once asked a flat-earther about the 23 astronauts who died in various space programs. He replied "They are alive, somewhere in a witness protection program". No cure for stupidity.

Making watches and necklaces flapp around is another thing wires can’t do.

@@jagheterbanan If I ever get the chance to visit and stay at the ISS, I might try to bring my LEGO set of the ISS and see if it's possible to assemble the set in Zero G. You can't have wires attached to every single piece lol

You can't be an anti-science "truther" without cherry-picking. I've seen somebody zoom in on about 10x10 pixels of an apollo photograph and claim he could see Stanley Kubrick. Absolutely 100% serious too. He believed that instead of being behind the camera, Stanley hid behind a rock in the distance, so that he was almost visible in a photo. 5 minutes before that, he was claiming that it was a painted backdrop, so there was no distance for Stanley to hide in. These people will literally believe anything, even if it contradicts something else they believe, so long as it's anti-establishment.

Heck, it's as simple as looking at anyone's face. Or did NASA go out of their way to only find actors who constantly look like they're leaning forward?

@@pjalne Well NASA's not the only one sending astronauts to the ISS. If it was a hoax, then it would be a collaborative hoax with several Space agencies in Russia, Europe, etc. Which seems extremely unlikely, and since all the "evidence" for a hoax could be easily explained away, I think Flat Earthers are going to need to step up their game lol

have you ever seen a real microphone? go try to buy one, and the UN military will stop you in accordance with the antarctic treaty.

@@mcstark2700 I thought it was the Jewish Masonic Nazi military enforcing the ice wall visiting restrictions . . .

​@@mcstark2700 you have to be royalty and high up in the government to buy microphones with cables.

@@mcstark2700 I have a microphone connected to my PC, but I have to keep it hidden inside a dead cat in case the microphone police raid my study.

Faking the cables make sense. If it was filmed on earth the cables would behave differently. So you would have to fake them to make it look real.

My friend sits in his office during his video chat with me but its all blurry and jittery behind him. I reckon he's really on a space ship in orbit and his home is just fake CGI on a green screen. What a damn scammer eh?

@@ShizukuSeiji your friend is a paid actor...lol 😂

But Adam has no friends to do video calls with.

Incidental, but I cannot stop reading "Flerf" as "FLat Exclusionary Radical Feminist".

.......I work in film special effects and the ISS footage is clearly faked. Its made up of Green screen sections - which are limited but can run a long time. Also there are Vomit Comet shots which actually simulate zero G but can only run for about 40 seconds and there are the wire shots which all make up the desired effect. Womens hair-sprayed standing hair is giveaway and also seeing blood rushing to head when flipping over on wires. Its all there if you are secure enough to look.

@@viclimited9081 why would you need to fake footage for the iss? I understand the moon landing, but why the iss? Not only are thousands of scientists responsible for keeping the cgi a secret, but multiple countries are responsible too. I’d rather argue about “why” it’s fake rather than “how” it’s fake.

Is that a quote, or did you come up with that? Nice either way

@@st0rmforce Something I came up with.

Flerfs are usually the ones who respond to questions with insults. Mainly because they have no answers.

Everyday, more globe believers are shocked to know that: 1. All earth images from space are fake. 2. No rocket has gone above 100 km in altitude. 3. Antarctica circumnavigation has never happened. 4. Satellites don't exist. 5. Flights never nose dive because of no curvature. 6. Flights between australia and south america never fly over Antarctica, instead it goes through northern part. 7. Moon landing is fake. 8. No 24 hour sun in Antarctica. 9. A huge difference in heat from the sun between noon and morning-evening. 10. Polar star trails are circular, but it should be straight lines or some other abstract shape if earth is flying at 800,000 kmph speed. 11. So-called space videos are from balloons using a fish eye lens camera and from 3D softwares. 12. Moon's night side is same as sky instead of black. 13. "A live telecast of rocket attached with a regular lens camera going up atleast 20,000 km in altitude or upto whole earth comes in a single frame" has never happened, no one even tried. 14. Go fast rocket hit the dome about 98 km. 15. During solar eclipse the alleged moon's shadow is about only 100 km wide and it moves from west to east , north-east to south-west and many directions. 16. Sometimes lunar eclipse occurs while the sun is still above the horizon. 17. Our eyes and senses tell that we are not moving and not spinning.

It won't stop them from calling him a shill. The Flat Earth community is a cult and, thus, shall be treated as such.

@@Isaac_Flat_Earth . Try learning some very basic physics, and then you might not make yourself look such a gormless prat. When an object leaves the surface of the Earth, it does not lose its momentum it had while on the surface. Would you step off a train while it was travelling at 100mph? According to you, it would be perfectly safe because as soon as you left the train, you would immediately stop moving.

@@grahvis After you step out a moving train, the momentum will stop eventually, you won't keep running forever just because you stepped out of a moving train.

Actually, Thanos's fingers were clipping

Unless it's done by today's Disney.

@@Perktube1 you have no clue about CGI, right?

@@i-deni-i5138 no, Thanos' fingers were obviously snapping.

not all donuts come out with holes

That's going down the rabbit hole once u learn ancient cosmology or flat earth they know u would expose them and never would have to answer to them ever again

@@Tre-q9u Every time we measure Earth's surface, we find that it is not flat, but curved. This exposes you.

@@h.dejong2531 y yall keep saying we when ur azz never did any measurement go live outside and show Im tired of hearing all talk with no evidence if u can't present real proof u are a fraud wannabe and a person that doesn't know anything

@@h.dejong2531 Im ready so r u going to go live and show me plus how many miles do I need to go to c curvature

@@h.dejong2531 what r u waiting on

Yep. Watch videos from when RU-vid started, or someone doing a videoconference from back in the day before current cameras and high speed internet connections were a thing, and you'd see glitches like that all the freaking time.

Thx for the details 👍

to me it just looks exactly like my tv did back when cable sattelite was a thing as a kid. During a rainstorm one bad frame would ruin multiple until it fixed itself. If it can happen in a rainstorm im not surprised it happens when transmitting a signal from orbit live

"Live digital video is not built to properly correct errors" that is why the various versions of MPEG were created as and are a defined as, a "lossy" compression system. They are designed to trade off accuracy for lower data use. For these tasks, that is a good trade-off. And as the versions of MPEG have been released and adopted, the result has been a steady improvement. Although that improvement has also demanded higher processing power at both ends. If you want to *correct* transmission errors, like the transmissions to and from the Voyager Spacecraft, the ECC data in each data packet is many times the size of the data field. This is great for off-line feeds, but terrible for live feeds.

Anyone who had cable TV in the late 90s will immediately recognize the compression artifacts in these videos. I guess flat Earthers don’t remember the pre-RU-vid days of streaming video over RealNetworks.

Tidy, Creaky!

And I thought that honour fell to Taffy 🤣

I could buy a screw making mega-factory just for the sole purpose of making loosely fitting screws, and I still wouldn't have a scratch on LEO.

Hahaha.... comment of the week!!!!

"I don't entirely know what's going on" - LEO

If only He'd go meet some hams in his region talking to a LEO satellite via ham radio.

It’s not ironic as he did it on purpose.

Its the same acronym for Lacking Evolution Organism.

Wasn't he in a gorilla suit that he's taken aboard for a bit of a prank? Yeah, of course it's edited so there wasn't 5 minutes of dead air while he changed into the ape suit. Flat Earthers can never tell the truth.

@@synthetic240 idk if it was this clip but that ape suit prank was gold.

You mean a conspiracy theorist was dishonestly cherrypicking? [Shocked pikachu meme]

Hard to beLIEve how closed minded we all once were. You were just showed na$a faking iss footage. But instead of amitting you're wrong? You make excuses and defend them, sad. trying using common sense instead of just beLIEve what everybody else thinks must be "the truth".

@max level right back at you. Maybe try thinking instead of deciding to believe literally any nonsense, so long as it's anti-nasa

Don't. Theyre not worth your pity

Seriously. How you could see that and not realize it's shadow is just... sad.

@@xyex because they're envious they'll never amount to anything unless they put in effort, and they don't want to do that.

@@xyex Yep. When I saw the heavy glare on the window, my first thought was that the black is a portion with no glare -- such as a portion in shadow.

Except it's not a shadow, it's space.

@@chrisjacobsen1659 No. It's shadow.

Maybe we could send them to the moon instead.

@@CameronHuff only give them fuel to get there not back tho

It won’t matter. Flat Earth and hoax beliefs like this are not about the truth but fulfilling some need in the believer. They will just move the goal post every time you corner them with reality. I do think moon colonization etc will help reduce followers.

@@CameronHuff They will still think it is fake and try to prove it and die in the process...then others will think they were killed for knowing the truth.

You will be waiting another 2-3 generations if na$a even exist that long for them to show you more cgi that you will beLIEve. Maybe your great great grand kids will see the na$a fakery one day?

Everyday, more globe believers are shocked to know that: 1. All earth images from space are fake. 2. No rocket has gone above 100 km in altitude. 3. Antarctica circumnavigation has never happened. 4. Satellites don't exist. 5. Flights never nose dive because of no curvature. 6. Flights between australia and south america never fly over Antarctica, instead it goes through northern part. 7. Moon landing is fake. 8. No 24 hour sun in Antarctica. 9. A huge difference in heat from the sun between noon and morning-evening. 10. Polar star trails are circular, but it should be straight lines or some other abstract shape if earth is flying at 800,000 kmph speed. 11. So-called space videos are from balloons using a fish eye lens camera and from 3D softwares. 12. Moon's night side is same as sky instead of black. 13. "A live telecast of rocket attached with a regular lens camera going up atleast 20,000 km in altitude or upto whole earth comes in a single frame" has never happened, no one even tried. 14. Go fast rocket hit the dome about 98 km. 15. During solar eclipse the alleged moon's shadow is about only 100 km wide and it moves from west to east , north-east to south-west and many directions. 16. Sometimes lunar eclipse occurs while the sun is still above the horizon. 17. Our eyes and senses tell that we are not moving and not spinning.

It's kinda sad you just take Daves "video compression" explanation as 100% fact without researching anything. Can you common sense? you just admitted that it looks like very bad cgi, but still beLIEve it cause na$a would do a better job? WHAT?

@@maxlevel1489 I never said it looked like bad CGI, I said, if it WAS, which is not at all, it WOULD look bad. I know enough about video compression and transmission bandwidth to know interferences can happen during live stream. I just learned something new about it, not about the whole concept. And you, you believed that NASA would release that crap if it was a post-production job using CGI? "Ohhh there, we don't see the astronauts anymore, so it must be CGI"... If that is conclusion of FlatTards, it is because they did not do any research. If by saying the Earth is Flat, you mean that you use common sense, come again.

@@maxlevel1489 you think we normal people watch ONE VIDEO then form our world basis on that? no, that's YOU guys, you watch one FLERF video and now think you've "cracked" the code and made this assumption the center of your pitiful lives. us normal people? we already know what's right and move on to more important things.

@@maxlevel1489 The ironyyyyyyyyyyy~~~~!!!!!!!!! If you had ANY common sense you wouldn't even writing that comment!

Flat earth debunkers are just as bad as flat earthers. NASA fund the flat earth society, they couldn't defeat their real opponents so they funded their own!

They deserve to be mocked honestly

Adam is desperately trying to appear significant, to the point that he has to lie about his occupation (he managed to debunk himself on several occasions with that one), plus he uses (or did use) sock accounts to make positive responses to LEO's comments - he caught himself out doing that by responding to a LEO comment whilst still signed in as LEO and not his alter-ego!

Well Adam (LEO) is a proven liar.

@@dogwalker666 They all are.

@@GeistView Gottalietoflurf!

I read LEO as Low Earth Orbit until I realized what it actually is

And not just one government, every government in the world would have to cooperate for this pointless conspiracy. I somehow doubt that would happen.

@@ida6950 pov: it is 2060 and it is actually true

$700 million a day buys a lot of smart people.

@@nospoon4799 $700 million a day would mean NASA's budget is $255 billion when in reality it is more than 10 times less than that. From where are you even getting that number?

and yet dumb enough to leave in obvious SFX errors in

self superiority or paranoia

In fairness, without the full video, it is a bit of an odd one. I was expecting it to actually be a wire (of the charging variety, not the holding one up variety), until he mentioned the IPAD, and when I went back a little, I clocked there was a reflective surface over his shoulder. I didn't believe it was a wire holding him up, but it did cause me pause. That's why these FLERFers only use edited video, so they can show only the bit that supports their case.

Can you explain this one away? /watch?v=V7Orn0erGyw

I didn't think it was that obvious, because it seemed unlikely that such a reflective item would be behind him. Granted, if i had watched the original footage i would have seen him handling the ipad, and put it behind him - in which case you're 100% correct. But without that knowledge (as initially presented), my mind dismissed there being a highly reflective surface on the ISS. Didn't think it was a wire holding him up, but it kinda looked like something

@@maxlevel1489 I'm not watching the entire thing. Kindly provide a link to the time you want me to obliterate :)

@@maxlevel1489 "Can you explain this one away?" Yes, its a 45 minute rambling conversation between two people neither of whom have a clue.

Is she REALLY your mom?

​@@jimsmith7212 oof hahaha

She is a alien

Your Mum must be CGI ??

That makes you also CGI

I should clarify I’m not a flat earther, I’m making a joke. RU-vid idiots please read twice before your brain explodes

Science needs be tested. It terrifying you think it's terrifying

​@@legionjames1822This is not the comeback you thought it was. Seriously, go back to school and learn how science works.

@@simonmercier6733 I understand science on a level you would need years of study and concerted effort to understand. What your suggesting is blindly believing what mainstream "science" claims to be true. Thats how religion works bud, your part of a modern religion called SCIENCE. "Trust the science" - its good advice for you. You probably are not strong enough to get at the truth. Its been put out of reach of thoughtless believers.

The religious are exceptionally adept at cherry picking..

Another thing is that the flerfs think that 2 little wires can hold up a person prefectly and let them do all kinds of flips and fly horizontally. Then you look at the clips of Sandra Bullock

@@st0rmforce They're not exactly the sharpest light bulb in the crayon shed.

And their words are more credible because they actually do work with CGI. They would know better than a flerf who can't even focus their camera LOL...

And no harness setup will accommodate the crew welcome ceremonies, 6-7 people doing crossovers, coming from a tight door.

100 million or so people? Lol dumb. All you need is only a few people

@@LukeRoxALotthere’s 18000 people currently employed by NASA. Then we have all of the pilots (millions) then we need all of the other government space agencies, then all of the private space launch companies, then all of the amateur rocketry enthusiasts, then all teachers, then all of the satellite companies, then all of the cell phone companies… etc. You get the point. This would be a global conspiracy that easily has millions of people involved. And for what purpose, to lie about the world being a sphere? Or going to the moon? Not sure what delusion you subscribe to. There’s nothing to gain from doing this. If the science existed otherwise that’s just what they would say. There’s no point to making an elaborate scheme that involves the studies of mathematics, astronomy, biology, geology, etc. all being fraudulent just for some pointless lie.

Do u want to put that to the test i bet u will run

we don't need to put it to the test. IF someone genuinely believes the earth is flat then they are either simply believing someone they trust (i.e. taking them at their word) or its a lack of understanding. There is no other alternative. For those that actively seek to "prove" that the earth is flat then it has to be the latter. because they look at the evidence, and draw exactly the wrong conclusion from it. @@Tre-q9u

“…therefore the earth is flat.”

It is rather clear evidence the flat earther hasn't got much of a clue how CGI is done.

​@SpazzyMcKenzie it's a schizo episode...

@SpazzyMcKenzie I'm sorry you didn't get my sarcasm. I guess the world is getting too strange for sarcasm to work. My point was that all the issues that were pointed out as proof that it's all a fake are too glaring and stupid to be faked. Noone who was faking it would do such a poor job of it (as if all the fakery was handled by a kid with no editing skills).

try to get flat earthers to explain how something extremely simple like AM radio works haha good luck with that

@@Fred_the_1996 yes there is so much, of that! but you also have to remember that flat earthers are much more diverse nowadays. it used to be only a religious thing until relatively recently( as in decades). now it's a full pseudoscience conspiracy hybrid, with religious undertones. and many of them don't even know it's religious origin.

That greenscreen bit was hilarious. It must be VERY advanced green screen technology that NASA is keeping secret from us in Tartaria!

Not necessarily an ISS denier but interested lol

The glitching - well that is just video compression and the fact that video compression is lazy and still object are essentially just held in case like Dave says. So that is exactly what we would expect to see, and isn't proof of a green screen. Normally glitches in comp with green screens actually flash the screen rather than glitch like this.

The fade transition looks to be a time laps comp, also why would you ever fade them out given you would have just roto-ed the foreground object and had him pass behind it. So that's a BS claim as it just isn't how you would manage this kind of shot.

The cable - again, this just isn't a mistake that we would make. Not only is this a rookie error, but secondly hands are a primary focus in VFX as they are a pain to deal with like 90% of the time, so and error here is really unlikely. Also TBH, this would have been an easy practical effect to do rather than doing 3D work and modeling this movement. So again, wouldn't show up in this way as an error. Also all of the resolutions do seem to match, as does the lighting on the objects and I very much doubt they would if they had done this as a VFX shot.

Wires - this is a nuts claim from a VFX point of view, as removing wires is like Day 1, and it is extremely unlikely that something like wires would be left in (including clothing deformations) on something like this given they wouldn't be hiring kids straight out of college, they would have the best of the best doing this work. And what is this "I think they faded it out", we do t fade out wires 🤦‍♂️

@@Now_Time_For_Science If they had the best, the best people would be missing in the actual companies, so this would be suspicious. What they do is to get to orphanages in India, pick the most skilled geek orphans and teach them how to paint. Then they are locked into a dark cellar and paint all wires out without seeing anything but the building they are locked it. Well, this part is identical to conventional VFX work. I guess the differences really just comes down to them being orphans and not as good and therefore missing wires. And adding compression artifacts when streaming their results from Kalkutta or whatever.

Space deniers simply refuse to believe that the ISS exists, because there is no space. Period. Ergo, nothing that emanates from there can be anything other than something faked here on Earth. Most flattards also refuse to accept that space exists beyond their "dome", so same problem for them. Must be great getting rich preying on these simple succulents.

Someone just searched "Mikhail kornienko alien" what

@Wonder777 Ignorance at its finest!

​@Wonder777 Ignorance is lacking knowledge and being unwilling to learn, if you can't even get the meaning of a word then a conversation about the ISS is well over your head!

@Wonder777 It must be fun being you, having to spend all day, every day, actually witnessing and verifying everything you want to know exists. I'll bet you weren't so bloody stupid in history class at school - assuming you actually went to one.

Yeah right, I realy don't know why these channels keep emerging. The best deterrent for flat earth is their "scholars".

I used to video puppet shows. I wonder what they use as "puppeteers" on the ISS set able to pull all those strings in the correct sequence and no entanglements.

Logic isn't a flerfer's strong suit.

@@gilleruadh do they have a strong suit?

@@ShizukuSeiji I think the dunning-kruger effect is their stong suit. Or paranoia

Even better if you realize that when we do zero-G stuff in movies, we often have to replace the whole background if the wires are too hard to remove. It happens fairly often, but the flerfs think effects tech is just magic.

@Wonder777 As a pilot I don’t need owners or controllers lol I can see the curvature from 40,000ft in the air myself

The injuries prove that.

@@jimsmith7212 No one gets injured in soccer, they fall over, without even being touched.

I said the same thing. By their logic, everyone on Zoom calls are not real. They're product of NASA's CGI... :D

Being jobless wouldn't be that surprising

that is a question i have had for years at this point like the government has this master plan to convince people the earth is round, sinking billions of dollars into it because they thought it would be funny or smth

it's demonic, apparently. it teaches demonic beliefs against god because le government is indoctrinating children and "introducing them to misinformation" or some stupid shit.

i thought MP4 was an audio format

@@snapperjessen Well, it can have audio but it's an A/V container.

@@emerson-biggons7078 i wish i was smarter 😁

@@snapperjessen not a matter of intelligence. It's just a very specific technical thing. A non AI robot could understand it. So don't worry about it, you're not stupid you just didn't know something rather specific.

@rogersanma2 not quite, MPEG-4 is a compression format for MP4.

He can debunking whatever he wants, but fake is fake. A person has to be really sick in his head to accept that it is all true. I can imagine people falling for it, because I thought it was all true. Despite the fact that I've found it hard to believe since I was a kid. We are not in the middle age, but we are in 2023. I definitely like to see his videos and certainly as entertainment and fun to hear different opinions. But one has to be realistic and I say in my opinion it is 100% fake.

@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt If you don't know then why did you say that? That's what's idiots says

@@Fortapistone *_"I say in my opinion it is 100% fake."_* In my opinion you are just a chatGPT bot. You can't prove me wrong so therefore you must be.

​@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt "yeah uh, so, they used magically advanced ai to edit these videos since decades ago, but the videos that prove the flat earth? No man, those are real, there's no way _those_ are edited"

@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt oh... If that's the case, I apologize, but you got to know, yes, you do need a /s, why? Because flatearthers actually say idiotic things like that in a non sarcastic way... But then again, my apologies man