Decoding the Guru Phenomenon for Atheists 

“ask” and demand are not the same .. no ?

Send him 2000 ka fake notes 😂

😂😂😂 irony

Hahaha look how religious folks are splitting hair in your comment section...

Ye kaunsa tarika hai bheek maangne ka?

Its a good business. So why not. 😏

he's an apologist at best defending bs in primitive scripture defending misogynistic verses demonising food choices etc he serves a niche market which doesn't wanna leave their religion but still wanna look look different from religious kind

😂😂bruh

@@_dxpk what is this insistence of "leaving" religion ? If your condition is to exact and induce moral behaviour from masses then he haz advocated for feminism and childfree movement in a trenchant manner , much more than your progressive rabble rousers , so what is your consternation about or you just want a dichotomisation to fight for the heck of it ?

@@mattcardin1796 calm down my friend my opinion can be different from you haven't you learnt anything from your "acharya" ?

Bro I do agree with you, I am not a fan boy of acharya prashant, I have given ample amount of time in understanding his videos, this guy vimoh I don't know he probably have watched some of his videos and started forming conclusions that is so utter nonsense 😂, if you are really a rational person then just go ahead and do the critical analysis of the videos where you find him to be wrong like the pranav (science is dope) does so beautifully, I would more than happy if you logically disapprove him..... Pls it's a request go ahead...😅 Just a suggestion vimoh , give yourself some time in watching his videos, I m sure he will definitely gonna make sense but pls don't went to his videos with your confirmation biases....have some patience !!

You are assuming that anyone who watches his videos will come to the same conclusions you have come to. I have seen his stuff and I did not come to your conclusions.

With respect, watch Arpit Explains' video on him and also Human With Science live stream on his views on caste. Prashant is just another baba.

​@@vimoh yes. I liked his thought on other topics but when it came to religion, he is just like another

​@@vimohthank you for replying vimoh and a week before only I have watched his videos since I know we develop biases so easily so every now and then I question myself only, by looking at the opposite arguments, and in his videos he seems to be confused and biased as well, on one hand he is talking about free thinking and on the other hand he is criticising acharya prashant for explaining the verses according to his own understanding 😂, and also he (arpit explains) is just extracting the literal meaning of the verses, he also talks about focussing on technology and science development, and which is really good but not at the expense of harming the environment to the extent 1000s of species are getting extinct and all that... we can clearly see the stats of rise in mental illness, depression and climate change which is the biggest threat for the humanity, some of points of arpit explains i agree, it puts a question mark on my understanding as well, but predominantly to my understanding I disagree with him he has just misinterpreted him by mere watching some of his videos, he has produced 7k + video, you have to give months in understanding him , acharya prashant addresses many issues and he also has some flaws in it, but all in all he is addressing the real issues of this generation and humans as well and talking about the casteism clip , it's not good to cut the clip from a video and attack on particular part in a way you want it to be it is called as straw man fallacy.. just watch his videos "water has memory" there only he criticised the casteism.... See, I m also a rational person, I m not a follower of achrya prashant nor I adore the scriptures, it's just that whatever I will find logical and worth understanding I'll appreciate to that extent only and the rest I will discard.... 😀

हिंदीवी ओ आर जी से अर्थ देख कर छाप दिया 😂 यह भ्रम ही होता है ज्ञान के कारण मोह नहीं छूट जाता धन्यवाद

@@-__________abhinavtariyal_5999 aap hi arth samjha dijiye....

U r right pro , he should listen to j krishnamurti

Nah Bhai ye asli gyaan hai

Nope. No thanks. Not collaborating with a baba.

​@@vimoh I suggest you to listen to acharya prashant open minded

​@@vimoh There is no difference between a 'religious box' and a 'baba box' if people believing in those boxes have shut doors upon further enquiry. They are both same. A rational person which is in our case an atheist indeed is, should be forever open to try n give efforts to understand the intricacies.

​@@vimohI think Prashant is atheist himself. He comes across as pretty rational.

Atheists are lowest at the rank of spritual evolution

See this is the problem what he takes from Upanishads The highest you can claim is that I am free to do and choose anything But still if ego remains you Cannot be neutral Hello attached himself to the term "athiest" this is where his stream closed !! He will be always biased on what favours him that's it

​@@Drken712true bro true atheist are not those who stick a athist sticker on their forehead 😂...they are people just full with hate😁

@@mr.perfect1067 that's why always the original ones are good Like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris These people are just here to satisfy their ego of torture

@@Drken712 bro its hard to find original atheist in india...these all sudo atheist are propoganda machin to divide hindusm..make hindu people more away from religion...yes i knows many things can be wrong in any religion but they never target those wrong things...they targets hindusm....and now it is clear that these people or channels are funded by people who have ISI links....so every devide is happning for future gazwa e hind..

Don't agree here though he is not promoting any evils like pseudoscience infact he is against religious propaganda but he is not also one that can be taken granted for everything what he says. He also talks fictitious and gives hopes. Sometimes he is very unrealistic and claims vedic scriptures have solution to all problems. That's not right. Watch the latest podcast on dhruv rathi.

@@santoshkarela8433 he is fighting climate change and oppression against women he is empowering the youth and about vedic literature please read the Upanishads and the Bhagwad Gita.

​@@sahilgoala3982atheist : still he's not our league, we should not support him.

@@santoshkarela8433I think he’s just promoting Vedic philosophy which is not a bad thing at all. I’ve never heard or read about him promoting communalism, superstition or pseudoscience. He even criticises those things.

​@@AmeyVikram16advaita ( nondualism bro ) pure ruthless inquiry .

Absolutely

i have doubt regarding choosing ucha kaam , what could be the work options for one who wants earn money for educating himself , every work i think of have inclusion exploitation fear and all that

Agree with u.

A baba with a record of sexual harrasment or land encroachment 😂😂 is more wise.

If you consider this Atheist a wise man then your in trouble

​@@anniemaraj8773if you consider baba's as wise men by default... You are in much more trouble 😶

fooling people is easier than making people realise that they are being fooled ... further's your choice

​​@@iamzigardobefore writing a stylish quote.... Search about the person you are talking about i.e. Acharya Prashant. You assumed he is also fooling people without even understanding wht he is preaching Is that what you call open mindness?

@@animateit9060 Spiritualism n atheism are completely different topic . Nd u must see how ironical that was with respect to that person.

@@iamzigardo where am I linking them? Have you watched his videos on caste, spirituality, atheism, vedas, advaita vedanta, women empowerment, veganism, etc. These all domains makes the philosophy of a person (leave spirituality part in most cases). I am just saying without understanding the philosophy of a person how can you reject him/her? I have my own philosophy, you too. If I have to say something about you I will require your point of view on everything to understand you, why you don't apply it on others, just that simple. See I listen to all sorts of gurus and atheists just with an intent to enter in their philosophy and understand where they are coming from. After trying a lot with acharya prashant, osho, jiddu krishnamurthy, I found TRUE open mindness. I would still say.....don't believe me just verify cause that's what I have learnt....Verification before believing.

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I also agree to the same .. like universal formula of gravitational force was actually a hypothesis which was verified through testing and not proved .

I agree and I would like to add that the methodology used to test a hypothesis is also important. The method chosen should be able to weed out false positives. There are cases of scientific tests which prooved nonsense because the test was not conducted well, for example without double blinding.

Great answer. Thanks!

Comes under same category though he talked against traditional guru system and spiritual methods.

some count him in that and some dont and for me he iss not

Atheist have hard time facing J Krishnamurthy, he was the one for those who depend on their logic to much. No atheist will be seen mentioning him they still fear him

​@@lodhiayush6718I am an Athiest and I respect Jifddu Krishnamurthy infact I don't even see him in the same category

He was enlightened atheist ❤

a theist*

Atheism combined with Marxist/feminist ideology is the biggest problem in the world. I mean it demonstrably true if your turn your gace upon the west. Gurus are no where near as dangerous because the later causes mental illness and complete disconnection with reality.

Ask that 'physicist' Sanghi about Ram (Kshatriya) killing Shambuka (Shudra) and getting praised by his kingdom. 😂

@@HiSharma-ok8gr I have heard that it was a part of uttrakhand of ramayan and the chapter uttrakhand was not originally a part of ramayan,it was like a later edition of it(according to druv rathee)

@@y.muralikrishna4733 Do you consider Dhruv Rathee an intellectual or B.R. Ambedkar? Dhruv Rathee is a hardcore liberal who tends to cherry-pick information. I suggest reading Ambedkar's book 'Riddles in Hinduism' where he thoroughly explains the entire situation.

Chavda fraud hai

​@@HiSharma-ok8gr i am aware of that shambuka vadha incident its discrimantory no doubt But in all ways they are correct that its a later addition in the original valmiki ramayana the uttarakanda is not there.

Just making sense is not enough, people should also seek for evidence. You can be logically consistent but still wrong. btw sir big fan. Good to see you here.

@@uttamraj3786 Thanks for noticing. I I was trying to be anonymous lol. Glad for the reply If I may elaborate for clarity's sake: the concept of evidence in the physical world (or scientific domain) doesn't exist in the spiritual/metaphysical exploration, simply because the former is objective, while the latter is subjective. It's like, you and me trying to argue over the taste of salt, or the color of red. It is a matter of individual experience that can't be objectively verified. And yet plays a central role in our life. There is no evidence for consciousness, yet I don't think you deny that it exists. There is no evidence for Suffering, yet you can't agree it exists if we are all material objects purely following physical rules. Hence the domain of human experience that is spiritual (not physical) can only be known from the inside, and not outside.

@@DibyajyotiDas I agree with you sir that these subjective experiences play a central role in our life and everybody can have their own meaning or interpretations of these because how we interpret them depend on our past experiences and environment in which we grew up or exposed ourselves to as these are the things which shape our personality. Problem is the baba culture which is now growing in India. These Babas are exploiting needy people in the name of hope and misguiding youth. If finding a meaning for life make someone happy then that person should definitely beileve in it as long as he is keeping it personal and his beileves are not harmful to others. Joining these things with mysticism and super natural and making absurd claims about this universe should be stop. And as you said that the domain of spiritual experience can only be known from inside, this makes these Babas completely useless as they are external. One should think critically about these spiritual experiences by himself instead of following Babas. Btw If we follow general definitions of consciousness and suffering, I think there are enough evidence for both of them. One can easily verify both by making some observations and then ask others whether they have felt these kind of experiences or not. These experiences doesn't need to be same for everyone. Just the fact that other's can also feel these kind of experiences is itself a proof of consciousness and suffering.

@@uttamraj3786 What I meant by consciousness is that it cannot be measured, quantified, or detected by any physical scientific instruments. That is what I meant by evidence, when you said - things can make sense but have no evidence. But if asking people and reaching a consensus is how you define evidence, then we are on the same page here. As for Babas, I again agree with you. There are conmen and charlatans everywhere, who use pseudo scientific babble and superstition for their own purposes. Where I disagree, is that there are also genuine people who offer practices and tools to realise inner truth. Yes spirituality is an inward journey, but seeking answers to questions is everybody's right. In that sense, spiritual teacher have always existed and will always exist. It therefore boils down to us to use our intelligence to distinguish between the genuine and one who's not.

@@DibyajyotiDas Consensus when done by experts on that field is also a form of evidence, I don't define it that way only. what do you mean by "inner truth"?

Human with science Arpit dewvedi Science journey The realist azad Samyak soach amit tiwari Himanshu ka lecture Science is dope Ghalib kamal Harris sultaan

Wouldn't asking "what should i answer them" defy the point of the video, won't it make vimo a atheist baba 😂. You should not answer when you dont know.

feel free to come on my live stream and talk toe face to face about this

@@vimoh It'd be a privilege. Ill join in you invite on prior mention.

a great person

nothing wrong , he is sincere in his work

You don't actually need religion for finding the "purpose". It may give you but it's not guaranteed either.

God delusion Sapiens

River out of Eden by Richard Dawkins. Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins.

​@@g.o.a.t84while recommending sapiens also try warning them about the errors in the book. There's plenty.

​@@openatheism maybe try reading osho, atheist feared him. You may find some answers.😄

@@lodhiayush6718 don't know much about him but I've seen his videos bashing religion, why would atheists fear him ?

😂

Just because some things have meaning doesn't mean everything has meaning.

​​​@@vimohen in science and nature everything has a reason. And it is the reason that brought human life to this advancement. How can you literally come to a conclusion that everything doesn't have a reason ? I also know you're determinist so you're completely denying 'a cause' for existence metaphysically 😊

When you are saying that everything has a reason, do you want to say everything has a cause? Like "How" something happened or you want to say there exist a answer for "why" something happened?

​@@uttamraj3786cause is an answer for both how and why questions .

You are interchanging the words meaning and reason. This isn't how it works.

Secular minded here means you remove religious bias in other aspects of life and functioning. Secular is some definition for institutions, government, groups rather than individual.

Jiske paas evidence ho aur uski baat saabit ho sake, uski suno.

​@@vimoh Life ke purpose me evidence kahan se laoge janaab ?

Bhai tu J.Krishanmoorthi ko sunn, atheist's ki jammad lagti thi unke pass, unhe challenge karne aate the

Aur hindi me sunna hai toh osho hai

Jawab hona hi ek tareeka nahi jawab sahi bhi hona chahiye

Well, just in case you think that the big bang has been proven wrong by jwst, that is not true The James Webb Space Telescope did not disprove the Big Bang theory. In fact, its observations have actually strengthened the theory. The telescope has been able to see galaxies that are much older and more distant than any that have been seen before, which provides further evidence that the universe began with a hot, dense state and has been expanding ever since. The telescope's observations have also revealed new details about the early universe, such as the fact that galaxies were much smaller and more numerous back then than they are today. This information will help scientists to better understand how the universe evolved and how galaxies formed. While the James Webb Space Telescope has not disproved the Big Bang theory, it has provided new insights that will help scientists to refine their understanding of the universe. The telescope's observations will continue to be studied for years to come, and they are sure to reveal even more secrets about the cosmos.

As a student to physics, I'd say don't fall the trends. Most of the times they make such sensational news only for attention. We make errors all the time. Few years ago we also found a particle faster than light. It was just an error by the equipment. Those 2 galaxies could be older or could not be. We need more observations from different sources suggesting the same. Let the James webb do more scans. Either ways it will only help us improve our understanding of the universe. If they really are older it will make us redo our calculation and improve. If it's not then it wil help us identify the error and improve upon it so that the error don't happen again.

that he is supporting pseudoscience of hinduism

Many things. Get out of His fandom group and your confirmation bias...and you will see lots of wrong things.

@@warrior_of_liberation How did u assume i am in his fandom group? I just asked how his views and opinions are problematic ? if any.

His opinion Jailing people who use Bhagavad Gita for motivation in business is wrong.

​​@@GIGADEV6901. Even being a very qualified person (IIT IIM and what not which he doesn't shy to hide), he only resort to PREACHING when it comes to knowledge of Geeta, Upanishads etc. 2. A well educated person like him would understand that to teach 'any possible knowledge' these scriptures hold to people who don't know anything about scriptures is by doing "Critical Analysis" (which is actually a better way to study any ancient scriptures) and publish these (like a proper research) to be read by everyone...but he resort to give HIS personal commentary on these scriptures (maybe because he knows his audience well and he knows that whatever he says will be just believed. So what does that make you? A fool?). 3. The worst thing he does is that he downplays the disgusting things that happen in our society because of these scriptures by INTERPRETING and REPRESENTING them in his Own way. "Maybe they meant something else than what is translated today" "Maybe we lost the actual meaning of these verses" "Maybe older times were different to write these verses reasonably"... If you might have listened to what he says along these lines...then thats what he is doing...DOWNPLAYING the wrong things in these scriptures. fyi - Study of ancient scriptures, words and their meanings is done through Etymology (a branch of Linguistics). I am pretty sure Acharya Prashant isn't doing that when he spews any bs about knowledge in scriptures he talks about. Does he?

Not all rules are prescriptive. Many are simply descriptive. And also, according to your own definition, being religious seems to depend on the need to feel superior to others.

nope thats absolutely untrue, you are in a delusion

@@not_magwa183 how do you know?

@@ashikpanigrahi well, the complete religion is filled with nonsense out of which most of it has been debunked, plus there is no proof that any guru is 'authentic'. Also I could have answered better if u specified clearly what u mean by 'authentic' gurus(as in what do u expect from an authentic guru?)

@@not_magwa183 the issue with your take is you have thrown out the baby with the bath water. You think there’s nothing that religion can offer or has truths about. Religion conceived only as Stone Age literature or science isn’t doing justice to the institution albeit those parts of religion have become irrelevant in the 21st century. But the true core of it lies in the spiritual knowledge that it carries which also gets thrown away with the other outdated stuff of ancient lit and sci. It’s that Spiritual knowledge that gets transmitted by the Guru.

Spiritual knowledge is often touted as a source of wisdom and enlightenment, but there is no scientific evidence to support its claims. In fact, there is a growing body of evidence that suggests that spiritual knowledge is nothing more than wishful thinking. One of the most common claims made by proponents of spiritual knowledge is that it can lead to improved physical and mental health. However, studies have shown that there is no correlation between spiritual beliefs and health outcomes. In fact, some studies have even shown that people who are more religious are actually more likely to experience mental health problems. Another common claim made by proponents of spiritual knowledge is that it can provide comfort and support in times of difficulty. However, studies have shown that there is no evidence that spiritual beliefs actually help people cope with stress or trauma. In fact, some studies have even shown that people who are more religious are actually more likely to experience anxiety and depression. The lack of scientific evidence to support the claims of spiritual knowledge suggests that it is nothing more than wishful thinking. People who believe in spiritual knowledge may feel comforted by their beliefs, but there is no evidence that these beliefs have any real-world benefits. In addition to the lack of scientific evidence, there are a number of other reasons to be skeptical of spiritual knowledge. For example, spiritual knowledge is often based on anecdotal evidence, which is notoriously unreliable. Additionally, spiritual knowledge is often shrouded in mystery and secrecy, which makes it difficult to evaluate its claims. Finally, it is important to remember that spiritual knowledge is often used to justify harmful or harmful practices. For example, some religious groups have used spiritual knowledge to justify discrimination against minority groups. Additionally, some religious groups have used spiritual knowledge to justify violence against others. In conclusion, there is no scientific evidence to support the claims of spiritual knowledge. Additionally, there are a number of reasons to be skeptical of spiritual knowledge, including the reliance on anecdotal evidence, the secrecy surrounding spiritual knowledge, and the potential for spiritual knowledge to be used to justify harmful practices.

All one needs to be an atheist is to lack belief in god or gods. All the support you mentioned can be found outside religion.

@@vimoh Does an Atheist believe in spirituality?

@@vimoh obviously you can find all these things out side of it. You can find an Apple, Orange, peaches , vegetables in different orchids and farms , but people can buy it in one place i.e. Market.

Except that tje market is often selling bad goods. Better to seek more wholesome sources.

@@vimoh but you need to know objectively what's good . And even in science nothing is objectively right or good. Eugenics in wrong hands paved the way to Holocaust of Jews. It's about the person and his evolutionary tribal urges in modern world.