Deontay Wilder - International Boxing Hall of Fame? 

My favorite Deontay Wilder fight was against Charlie Zelenoff. For this fight alone Wilder should be included in Hall of Fame! 😉

Saying Deontay has a resume only a little bit worse than Vitali's is a stunning own goal there Rummy.

What people don't understand is the meaning of "Hall of Fame". Its not always about being No. 1, he's been a really exciting fighter and given us some of the most memorable knockouts (no matter the opposition) that are just had to forget. He deserves a place in it, and I hope to see him back in the ring again.

Parker is just undervalued boxer and he proved it.

A long reign of tomato cans doesn't mean greatness just shrewd management. His best victory remains a 40-50 yr old Ortiz. I can't believe this is even a discussion among serious boxing fans. He shouldn't get in even though he probably will, due to recognition and highlight KO's.

Yes, he will get in. Wheather or not he deserves to is another thing. Great video!

For people wondering about Joe Louis's 26th title fight. It was on November 11th 1944. Louis was supposed to fight an exhibition with Johnny Davis but the NY boxing said "we do not fight exhibitions" so JL title was on the line. 53 seconds into the fight JL hit JD who 'fell like a crowbar' and was unconscious for 5 minutes. It's on boxrec.

Marlon Starling was a very good fighter. Pernel Whitaker loved him.

Wilder’s best win is…

Usually you have to beat someone of quality to get HOF entry. Who did Wilder beat again? Oh that's right Ortiz twice... but who had Ortiz beaten that makes Wilders win mean anything?

Deontay's handlers should go in the hall of fame. They did a great job matching him up. 💯 Eventually he had to fight someone who was good & in their prime & then he started to lose...

Nah we dont have to give him credit for the draw vs Fury .He clearly lost that fight

I’ve always been critical of Wilder in the past, but you know What, the heart he showed in the Fury trilogy and the fact that he chose to face Parker despite basically a two year hiatus won me over. And the fact that he is so unpredictable, makes him really fun to watch. And, his knockout run is pretty impressive. You can debate whether he deserves the hall of fame, but I don’t really mind it.

I don't think he did enough to get into the HOF. Having a great KO % against subpar opposition isn't reason enough to get in. There are far more deserving boxers who should have gotten in a long time ago.

+Rummy’s Corner I think you gave a fair and honest analysis of Wilder’s career. An important thing to remember is his career’s context. Wilder was a college basketball player who dropped out in order to work 2 jobs to support his newborn daughter with spina bifida. He then started boxing as a way to make a better life for his family at age 20 in (2005). By 2007 he upset the favorites in both competitions to win the national Golden gloves and U.S. Championships and by 2008, he won Bronze in the Beijing Olympics. Everyone should Keep this in mind when we view his career. Wilder is a true inspiration to all. He is the epitome of a career underdog. If Sylvester Stallone made it into the HOF for making some movies, then Wilder with all certitude deserves to be in the HOF.

I want to see the Sconiers fight. There is no point keeping it buried anymore, it should be released to the public.

I think he will get in based off the 10 title defenses he had of the WBC belt and trilogy with Tyson Fury but who am I though 🤷🏽

The craziest thing about Wilder is that he started boxing at 20 years old. If he had just been lucky enough to be born into a family of Boxers, or even FANS of Boxing and he started I'm his early to mid teens...he'd have that crazy power AND much better fundamentals, footwork, etc. Still an incredible talent tho. Think it is taken for granted how so many Boxers were either put into a sports program at a young age like the Klitschkos were, or guys who had family super involved in Boxing...Mayweather and Fury come to mind. Gives you a massive advantage when you start training at like 10 and your firet matches are at 12-14 years old!

Yes, he deserves to get in. He was one of the big 3 of this era for the longest of time and gave us many great nights, conversations, what ifs. But yknow what above anything gets him in; the man started boxing at 20, won a bronze medal, won a world title and very simply made all that $ to provide for his disabled daughter. Took ome great attribute and hit the top of boxing with it for his little girl.

Sylvester Stallone is in, Wilder, with that many defenses deserves it…

I think he gets in. He got the bronze medal at the Olympics and held the WBC belt with multiple defenses. If he doesn’t get in I’d be shocked

“Fury was a bit indecisive whether or not he wanted to throw his jacket” lol

"at a time when Areola was still held in high esteem" You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

If I had a vote, my vote would be NO. I am a fan and I do indeed probably have a higher standard.

Regardless where he lands in the HOF or not it was fun as hell following Wilder since about 2011. At one point he was a monster, then cherry picker, then worked his way back into the conversation with the first Fury fight. Imo he ended up exactly where he should. A bad boxer with massive heart and power. Thanks for the memories Deontay. Bomb Squad, Fin.

Yes he had best % of ko’s in boxing history, at that time 2017-2019 wilder brought boxing back to life with tyson fury

Great video as always

"most fans tending to have stricter standards than the HOF itself". This is so true! Due to the amount of title fights and the matches agains Ortiz and Stivern, he deserves it! It ain't easy to knock-out every opponent. Even if some of them are tomato cans. It requires something special to be a successful 'one trick pony. 'Everybody knows he wants to land the right, and still it comes and finishes them. I hope the Joshua fight happens for Wilder, I think he still has what it takes to defeat Joshua. But what do I know, I aint Quasimodo over here *Bobby voice*.

I missed your videos rummy, always makes my day. Appreciate your content fr fr 🤝

Good video man. He'll probably get in because he's a heavyweight and famous. The problem is with several of his opponents, They were magically ranked within weeks and even days of the fight so there's a lot of question marks about why those guys were ranked. Stiverne hadn't fought in nearly 2 years and shouldn't have been ranked at all. Again, he'll probably get in, but he's the most protected heavyweight champion in modern history, the Kkitchkos at least fought everyone they could. Lewis and Wilder ducked Wlad. AJs record is better, Usyks record after February 17th will be better 😉. Fury is also a question mark to me. If he beats Usyk then yes.

Love him or hate him, with his defences he has to be. 10 defences he does like Rummy says has earned it.

Glad you made this video. Helps us get over our recency biase

Thanks for another world class and entertaining video.

I’d like a top 25 current heavyweight list starting this new year. It could be a good era like the 90s.

One common misconception about the Hall Of Fame, it is the Hall Of FAME not the Hall of Resumes, and what you do FOR the sport is important too. Ergo that Gatti is in

Yes for longevity. He didn’t have a bad night until Fury. I’m no fan, but I do think that should be acknowledged.

The Washington stoppage was shady AF. Man walked away more bemused at what he was looking at in Wilders wild swinging style. An absolute gift of a decision

We need the fantasy fights series to return Rummy 🙌🏻🔥. Another great video buddy 👏🏻

Yes, he will. Longest reigning American heavy in nearly 2 decades. 10 straight title defenses, 5 years straight as champ. Heavyweight is but as strong as it used to be, but you can only fight who's there.

He was one of the "top 3" for a while. Shame they never all fought when they were at the top.

Yes ! He defended his WBC belt almost 10 times ! Hardest puncher by a country mile 🥷

Nice vid, i've always liked wilder and I think he was poorly managed, he should have looked for a match against joshua way earlier in his career where I think he had good chance of winning. Now I think he is still in great shape as he managed to take parker's best shots for 12 rounds but he totally lost timing ad willing to fight, he seems to be more into a love you all phase of his life.

How tf can a HW who avoided everyone and then lost when he stepped up be HOF? His resume is ATROCIOUS. First 32 fights are literally littered with blown up CW journeymen. Then his title defences are a disgrace, he never unified and avoided so many guys. Cherrypicked Fury thinking he was washed and got battered. Then the icing on the cake is getting washed 12-0 against PARKER? He makes the HOF if F stands for FRAUDS

Maybe it's worth mentioning that Wilder played a role in keeping his opposition seemingly unremarkable. You know, because instead of letting them claim the championship that would have given them that greater prestige, he knocked them out. Just sayin'.

So happy that somebody FINALLY highlighted the controversy about Fury throwing his jacket

Braddock got in because his win over Baer was inspiring after losses and a retirement. Jess Willard got in because of his one win over Jack Johnson. Twice beating the boogeyman of the division in Ortiz, some exciting, competitve fights with the lineal, undefeated champion, highlightknockouts over contenders like Liakhovich, Breazeal and Helenius. Wilder has a decent case.

Deontay Wilder is suffering in his career due to the level of competition he faced while coming up the ranks!

tim bradley got in..

Heart. I think the guy doesn't get enough credit for that.

Could you do more hall of fame videos like this, Rummy? I wonder what other fighters you think should be in HOF and some you think shouldn't be in there.

You people saying he hasn't beat anyone of notice must not realize their have only been 3 fighter's of any esteem in heavy weight division since 2013 its not his fault there was limited competition during his reign

I like the fact that fans have such a high standard yet have never stepped in a ring without gear in God Head to Head what's a person who's trying to absolutely destroy you I also find it funny how someone can say he's not a skilled fighter yet you yourself wouldn't beat him if you had a lifetime to train, these are the same people who don't like Floyd Mayweather Jr who boxed in the 2000s.

7:46 - Deontay Wilder's infamous "Windmill" punch

Yes he will be inducted for one reason - who is the face of USA heavyweight boxing in the 21st century? Shannon Briggs, John Ruiz, Chris Byrd, Lamon Brewster, Hasim Rahman, Roy Jones Jr., or Deontay Wilder? I think he is overhyped and over-reliant on power, but he has his fans and is constantly talked about by his fans and detractors alike.

Not a big wilder fan but I think he is worthy of HOF 🥊

Clicked on the Video to see if Wilder would get the hate I suspected he would, and we'll; I wasn't let down. I appreciate you Rummy for your clearly unbiased assessment. The man was never a Natural Boxer, and got into the Sport late as Hell. Beat guys he never should've beaten, no matter how you feel about them. He made the Olympic Team, when he shouldn't have. Won Bronze, when he shouldn't have. Took the path that most guys take coming out, and best a lot of them, when he shouldn't have. Won the Title, when he shouldn't have. I don't know if Wilder draws, or loses to Fury, if the version of Wilder that had that confrontation with him after the Szpilka Fight. All I'll say about that first Fury Fight is anytime a guy is FLAT BACKED the way Fury was in that 12th Round, the Fight gets stopped. Just look at any other time Wilder did exactly that to another guy, or any other Fight, where a guy gets dropped like Fury did. I also believe that Fury purposely lied about the COVID stuff, because he knew he wasn't going to win, had the Fight taken place on the original Date. No one will ever convince me otherwise. I think he deserves to be a Hall Of Famer, but won't be surprised, or too upset if he doesn't get in. I just really love how people really act like the Heavyweight Crop was so deep during Wilder's run.

Coooome on Rummy, WBC has been boosting rankings to protect fighters. Look no further than Adonis Stevenson. Much love to you and yours. Keep up the good work!

Ingama Johansen,Sonny Liston and Ken Norton are in the IBHF and their records in title fights isn't that impressive as Wilders but they have been involved in famous fights against "history makers" so Wilder will be inducted in time,and i can't believe Marlon Starling hasn't been inducted yet either that needs correcting.

Wilder will be in the hall of fame

Gatti is everything we love about Boxing. HOF is made for warriors and Gatti just like Wilder were absolute warriors.

Hey Rummy, I'm just gonna repeat verbatim a comment I read about the Rock 'n Roll hall of fame: The only Hall of Fame that matters is the one between my ears.

17:31 okay, just because that pre knockout stance was so cool he definitely gets into the hall! Come on! We have all enjoyed watching Wilder and he has given us so many entertaining moments, off of that alone he gets into the hall of Fame. So many people are snobbish and overthink things.

Really good video. I think you could argue that Fury's record isn't exactly a list of heavyweight royalty either. I think they'll both get in for the trilogy fights alone, deservedly so, as I agree those were historically significant because they captured the public imagination and brought a lot of eyes on heavyweight boxing.

He makes the hall of fame. Tied Muhammad ali for 5th longest reign at heavyweight. One of the hardest right hands we've seen along with a big heart.

Good point on Vitali Klitschko's opponents, that's often overlooked. The Fury-Wilder trilogy will have documentaries made about it..with the 3rd fight being the most rewatchable HW fight this century.

Boxing, in my opinion, is all about who you beat. Your record has weight, but who you beat and where you stood in your era is the greatest indicator. With that, I can’t say his resume is that impressive. Respect to him though.

Another fantastic analysis, Rummy. I honestly don't think Deontay Wilder got the love and respect he deserved. When I was growing up, American heavweights were the dominant force in world championship boxing, with us British fans literally terrified of our Frank Bruno going up against James Bonecrusher Smith and Iron Mike Tyson. In my view, Wilder kept US interest in boxing relevant. No, his opponent quality record isn't great, but I think he should be given credit for the long reign, his exciting knockout power, and incredible heart (as shown in Fury III and the Parker fight). He came up short againnst a current and also a former world champion. That's no disgrace. Also, his personal story about fighting to provide for his family, especially his daughter who has spina bifida....I think he's great. If he never fights again, I think that's okay. He's much loved in the UK :)

He deserves it bomb squad 🥊big facts

Quasimoto really predicted this!!

For me, I’d like to know more about the parameters that are being evaluated when considering induction. Maybe you could do a Vid on those “10 [less or more] commandments”. Would be educational.

He totally is deserving of an entry in to the HOF. Hopefully he has a few more great fights, and maybe a belt, but regardless, it’s deserved. His record of KOs alone is impressive. Beyond most heavyweights of all time.

Yes

I agree with you Rummy.

Ahhh I'll shut up now rummy you always make your point ☝🏿 great video considering all your points you have swayed my initial opinion! Very hard to do 🤦🏿‍♂️

I'm not a big Wilder fan but surely he should get in for his freakish one-punch knockout power. No one else has ever done that quite like him - no wind-up at all. The fact that he achieved what he did with just heart and a big punch make it even more impressive somehow.

Of course he gets in. No other fighter has stopped or dropped everyone he ever fought. Until Parker, Wilder had. BTW, if you include Ali's wins over Quarry & Bonavena as lineal title defences (& you should, considering the outrageous way in which he was stripped / suspended) Ali also managed 10 defences in his first reign.

Yes he will. The fact is that there aren't to many USA heavy weight champions in this era of boxing hence they will include him.

He will be in the hall of fame i understand his record is a bit padded with cherry picks but the Fury trilogy regardless of him losing it was pretty epic and his heart in the 3rd fight that he showed was epic and he will be entitled to be Hall of fame

I was rather surprised by the title of Rummy’s video however after consideration I think it is a very similar situation to Ricky Hatton being inducted so no controversy yes Wilder should be inducted.

I have not watched the video yet but, No i don't think he should, but he was the WBC champ for 5 years, although he lacked quality opposition, he still reigned for a few years and will probably be the last American champion in the next few years, he was popular and did have a legacy as a big puncher at least, i really believe that the voters will look at his legacy more so than his actual accomplishments.

Please have a follow up video on Emanuel Augustus. He should be in the HOf

I don't think Wilder's loss to Parker will be held against him if he continues to do more and possibly, however unlikely adds more skills to his arsenal. But if this is the way he chooses to go out, I wouldn't be so sure 🤔

I am a big believer that these decisions should not be made until at least 10 years after a fighter's retirement. It takes that lng to let their successes and shortcomings sink in to most people. Look at the respect that people rightfully give Larry Holmes and Sonny Liston now compared to when they were active.

Thank you for this video. Deontay is a HOFer. That doesn't mean he's a top 10 or even top 20 Heavyweight of all time but he's definitely a HOFer. The 3rd fight with Fury is an absolute CLASSIC!!!

He had 10 title defences, holding the WBC title for 5 years. He had one the best trilogy in the history of boxing. I think this is enough to be in the Hall of Fame. Of course the last fight hurt his legacy, but it doesn't wipe out the things he did before. I hope he get back and close his career in a positive way.

Boxing loves looking a past eras as define by top 3s

Any chance we could get a Carl Weathers tribute video, Rummy? I know it's a little out of the realm of what you normally do, but considering that you have covered the Rocky films in the past, I think it's worth it.

Listening to your points of views and examples, I think he gets in too! 💥🥊

Cody Rhodes won the Royal Rumble and is going to Wrestlemania!! 🎉

Have you ever considered doing a WowRummyWow! episode where you rank your favourite boxing movies?

Im not too sure on whats the standard to get into the HOF. But I like Wilder for his activity during his title reign. Although we all wanted him vs Joshua, both Joshua and Wilder were at least fighting often during that time. Nevertheless, I dont think Wilders career is over and any fights he has from now should very much still be considered in his HOF induction. Hopefully we still see him vs Joshua regardless if theres belts on the line

Twelfth ranked, eighth ranked, ninth ranked, etc etc....He's the Kramer of the boxing world

Yes.

That “Gatti/HOF” argument always comes up! But if you take out that one outlier, the standards for HOF are pretty decent

Can you please🙏 do "a brief chronology of 1970s heavyweight division"

16:35 Difference is all his main rivals are a similar age so if he does go on to lose to , lets say , AJ Usyk or Zhang it will very much count against him

Yes, I think Wilder gets in, and rightly so. I have a question for you though Rummy (as subjective as could be - I ask because I harbor great respect for your opinion...); would you place Wilder above or below Riddick Bowe on your all-time greatest HW list?

5 of Wilder's opponents during his title reign were ranked inside the top 5 by ring magazine? HOW?? I mean, I get that Furyx2 and Ortiz x2 make up four of them, but how on earth is there a fifth?! Wilder will get into the HOF because of the number of title defences he made and his knockout percentage. But he doesn't deserve to be there. He's fought 3 fighters in his career that people might remember beyond their retirement, and lost to two of them.

I feel like a draw should be considered retaining by default, and not a successful title defence.

Crazy right hand with one of the most entertaining highlight reels all time. He has to go in. He deserves it too.