David Thomas No, seriously, you sound a little immature. Why should his being religious (if your unnecessary guessing is correct) be any more of a problem than you being atheist.
I saw Derren Brown a while back in London, at his show infamous. It was brilliant, the way that many separate mildly impressive acts came together to make an absolutely incredible final 5 minutes. Great man.
Quite a few modern sciences and professions started off as parlour tricks, electricity was seen as a parlour trick for decades before people started trying other things with it.
"I sense you're sitting in a bus going wrong way ... Or maybe ot is a relationship" :D this line made me laugh. Sounded like something you'd put into a comedy sketch show like Little Britain xD
+Ben Theredonethat Speaking at a debate at Oxford University with the Archbishop of Canterbury, the man regarded as the world's most famous Atheist states, he is an "agnostic" and has never called himself the world's most famous Atheist because he is clearly agnostic ! watch?v=dfk7tW429E4 P.s. Richard likes word play he uses it like an hegelian dialectic to confuse and steer the outcome in his debates...Like a conjuring trick! There are linguistic Tricks and Master Dawkins knows plenty of them btw
I had some experience of training for psychic development, I was interested in metaphysics.. Subtle energies we have not fully understood as yet, I was in fact sceptical. However, at the end of the course, I had experienced things that really were impossible to explain... No tricks! There are always charlatans but there are secrets in this universe we have yet to label. Keep an open mind I say!
That's amazing! You experienced things that were impossible? Why haven't you informed the world? You could be a billionaire within a year and go down in history as the person who found and proved the supernatural. People could study this and confirm without doubt that yes, it IS truly impossible. You could revolutionise out understanding of physics, humanity, and reality etc. Society as we know it would changed overnight. Holy shit! Or maybe you are one single person who is mistaken..... Hmmmm.
+Kevtb87 well, seeing as you asked....I believe it is inate in all of us. have a look at quantum physics and maybe the impossible is actually possible...I keep an open mind..that seems to be how we get to understand these things. I do recognise there are plenty of people who will lie and steal from others, but there are others that want to help by offering their well intentioned energies, which is pretty powerful.
@@kevtb874 What to see the impossible? Go and do a high dose of psychedelics. There, I've given you the secret to the supernatural and impossible. Let me know how it goes.
As long as science has no fundamental understanding of the nature of reality we will have these unscientific ideas put forward. It is not what science can do or explain it is what science cannot explain that is the problem! Science has no understanding of why we have a future that is always uncertain and a past that we can never change. If science could explain this based on reason and mathematics it would help replace these unscientific ideas!
Absolutely , i have experienced many things of a metaphysical nature. EVerything is happening in the 'now' , i have experienced mediumship that did not include cold reading or barnum statements. There is so much going on that most people can't even begin to realise or understand....
An artist theory on the physics of 'Time' as a physical process. Quantum Atom Theory it's because they're thinking in terms of time/motion but once you start thinking in terms of present/stillness this changes.
EDITED This is in reference to another Richard Dawkins interview of a religious nutjob who basically "cold reads" religious people. I'm not sure if that was your intention An artist theory on.... but well played ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--AS6rQtiEh8.html (edited again because I didn't copy the entire link and only posted half of it)
The barnum statements experiment / reading experiment Derren did just shows how almost-identical we all are. But yet people often think 'oh that's a me thing!', any time you think or do something you think is unique to you, you can bet that probably 95% of others think or do the exact same. So, even this within itself, if you know this, you could fake being 'physic' quite easily by just thinking of inner thoughts or fears or ambitions you have, then just say them to someone else like you know it's true of them, and it'll feel like you're reading them
I was looking at a different Internet Explorer window, and when I came back, the video was at 3:15, and I thought Dawkins was choking Derren. Hahahaha.
@MountcastleFilms That's an interesting theory: everything is part of something larger. Talking about the video, whenever someone says something hurtful to you, though you may be strong enough to outwardly deflect it, the internal "hit" will penetrate even deeper. Talking to a good friend afterwards can help, but what we really need to do is to find the best friend inside ourselves so that we may break a negative thought pattern at its root.
i think that has ended now, read an interview with the amazing randi a while back where he said it was too much work to keep going. i think he has proved his point anyway
Jimbo and Bubba were two blind brothers from a very rural small town. Their father died so they had to fly on an airplane for the very first time. Soon after take-off Jimbo tells Bubba that he doesn’t really believe he’s flying because “it just ain’t possible for no man to fly in the air!”. Bubba tries his best to convince him otherwise but without success. Suddenly the plane loses its engines! As the plane is going down - which brother puts on a parachute before he jumps?
Glad to be of service, just wanted to point out the intellectual brilliance of that most enlightening comment, don't thank me, thank you MrCardShark101
Off topic but as for the old Chicken or the Egg debate goes - Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
To me Richard Dawkins is like Robert Langdon from Dan Brown's novels: he takes all the myths, fears, misconseptions and unveils the symbolism behind them.
a way to avoid the problem of simply inventing names and waiting until someone in the audience recognizes it, is if the psychic chooses a person beforehand and then says the name. If that is the case and if someone has seen that happen, the evidence is much more convincing.
Where can I start in learning what Derren Brown does? (not in front of an audience!)? I have already read - Derren Brown: Tricks of the Mind, Derren Brown: Mentalism tricks. Please don't put a link to his recommended books, I just want a good "step-by-step" guide to some of his tricks, I also do not want to have to pay for anything so a website or downloadable .pdf would be great, thanks
From Non Sequitur: "The most accurate fortune ever told. You will be told what you want to hear. It will be so generalized that it could fit anyone. You will pay a ridiculous amount of money for it."
I worked out Derek Acorah's cold reading in the 1990s by recording his 'Talk Radio' shows with James Whale and analysing them. He did everything Derren talks about here and more. It sickened me that I knew that HE knew he was looking for a 'hit' all the time while the people he was stringing along were hurting and desperate for some comfort.
@The7thBeatle Science doesn't say that the universe sprang forth from nothing, it simply states that everything in the universe is moving away from one point, the point of what we assume to have been a super planet that exploded. Because everything in the universe was gathered into this point and was then randomly dispersed amongst the universe we can say that nothing that happened before that event has any relevance to anything that occurred afterwards, i.e. us.
Why would I go there? Do you really think the "King of tricksters" is going to say anything other than "it wasn't a trick?". He or his team are going to great lengths already to patch up things on the web. "Incriminating" links are disappearing fast; forums suddenly have eloquent support suddenly arriving days after the show has gone away? Why would people who are "happy" the show wasn't faked suddenly go looking for the doubters? No ... your post is intended for others who may have read mine.
@jmann114 also, when i say "in their mind" i mean it in the sense that everything we experience in our living consciousness is experienced in our mind via our senses. so if someone who's heart stops on the operating table can see and hear what's going on around them all that means is that their brain hasn't stopped functioning due to the lack of blood being pumped to it.
Same way microevolution happens. Copying is not precise, and even the smallest detectable difference is enough to drive change when acted on by a selection pressure. How doesn't it happen? By what mechanism are random copy errors constrained, and to what boundries?
Barnum Statements: statements along the line of: "When life gives you a collapsed bridge, make bridgemonade!" or "I've been improving my vocabularium with a wonderful book..." Fable 2 anyone?
1:49 I would LOVE to see the 'reading' that he gave the people... to see if I can go into the street and hand these things out to random people (that meet the description or course) just to see their reaction
You've just got to work. Don't try out everything at once but figure out where you want to start and then take it from there. Good luck to you, you're gonna need it ;-)
I like Darren Brown, he's used his talents for entertainment and this type of thing he could keep to himself. In the know, kind of thing, but he's explaining, exposing it. There doesn't seem a malisciousness about him.
@tahshin1601 Yeah, Derren acknowledges that twitch in his book, Tricks of the Mind. If I remember right he said it developed because of all the hypnosis he has done. It is part of getting the subject into a compliant state.
The second half of the video where they're talking about people teaching others to cold read without it seeming like trickery...reminds me of how my my mom and grandma trained me to think that this sort of stuff was legit. They taught me how to do this, and I honestly thought nothing of it. Then I hit my teen years, started really looking at the world as objectively as I could, and started to form my own opinions. Scary how they didn't realize what they were teaching me.
@jmann114 you've missed my point. howard storm was not brain dead, he didn't die at all. everything he experienced might as well have been a bad nightmare, there's nothing to say otherwise that isn't purely coincidental. clinical death is not death, it only retains the name because for a VERY long time people thought that if your heart stopped you were dead by definition, which you're not because your brain continues to function until it's deprived of oxygen.
@jmann114 "But the same could be said for people who insist they are just hallucinations." the burden of proof lies with the person claiming that it wasn't just a hallucination. "but the people who have experienced clinical death always come back with something to share. And it's not just abstract images/sounds. Some of them have reported and proven that they were consciously aware of what was going on around them." clinical death is not brain death, and nobody comes back from brain death.