DEUS EX (Zero Punctuation) 

The duality of man

Even crazier, they released them just a month apart.

Daikatana came out BROKEN, but if you use the fan patch, it's actually pretty good.

because in some places terabytes of storage cost more than 700$

In some places people own over 300 games.

Eamon Watson yes, and sometimes they don't even play it... dunno why.

With GMDX mod

I have it on my drive right now!

7. Woman, fat woman, fat man, muscular man, skinny man, normal man, little boy. (Plus all of those non humans like Greasels and Spiderbots)

1mmortalGaming Oh yeah, fat man. Like the "What a shame" guy XD

There were fat women too.

The Continental Yeah, forgot about them.

Don't the Dentons have a model for themselves...?

Mom and dad would be proud

Paul doesn't bitch at you for that. Prolly a good choise then.

Dirac Angestun Gesept.

***** Go in, and go in, and go in, and go in, like the US marshals and his 3 daughters, and , we loose the vaccine!

***** Get Pills against my orders!

Man. Occasionally that gun is silent and sometimes its insanely loud haha

Welcome to the Coalition, PROD! I might as well start using your codename.

How long haw you been locked in the bathroom?

I DO NOT MOVE OUT OF THE WAY

That's terror

I remember when it first barreled out of its cave, I was like, "Ohhhhhhhhhh.......shit......RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN"

Leo Schue i was like ohhhhhhhhhh.......shit......it's a robot testicle spider

Boss? More like ammo depository.

Thief is far too easy to get of the maps in. Deus Ex I've finished literally 9 times and only managed to get out when I spent 20 minutes trying to.

Plot twist?

The twisted house in the first Thief though.

+Kevin “FortuneCookieBeer” Traberg Oh my god it's like the ending of I Robot the book not the movie.

and now you have become the Messiah to my cult

What are you on and where can I get some?

That's cute and all, but you cannot store your consciousness onto a computer. Why? Because that's not how it works, the brain is an organ, that's like saying you can download your liver into your computer. And are you seriously comparing Google to a God? It is a collection of as much knowledge in the world (if it's actually uploaded to the internet that is) as any human knows, Google, and any other search engine isn't a God that can actually be able to create the Universe and every single piece of matter in it. And why the fuck would anyone let a machine decide how we humans are governed? We barely trust other humans with the job. This comment is naive beyond comprehension.

And I find your comment cynical beyond comprehension. Technological fallacies aside, I truly believe there will be a point where we can fully integrate our consciousness into machines. The OPs google comparison was just meant to point out we managed to achieve the idea of a global knowledge databse, which would be the first step towards creating a man-made god, not that we are that close to completion.

S ame

Your mom is in need.

dayum,nigga dayum.Funi tou

@Juni Post Deus Ex is Latin

*What a rotten way to die*

Whoa, thanks for the tidbit!

because no one knew about that cough* cough*

But that's just a theory... A GAYMME THEWEY!

I heard it was due to technical limitations, rather than forgetfulness...

EchoesofOld Yes, that's what I heard too

he's a machine

AlbertoBC7 I don't think you can define a game that has you waiting for the target reticle to zoom in whilst the enemy 75% of the time deliberately misses every shot when you're practically standing right in front of them a gem... If anything that is completely ludicrous game design. I'd take System Shock 2 any day over Deus Ex, cause at least I can be sure that the enemies won't dance around like fools and would actually present me a challenge that isn't down to artificial difficulty due to the mechanics being mediocre and inconsistent! Half of the stuff, such as Pepper sprays, Gas grenades, Tranquilizer darts, stealth pistol (Practically one of the worst weapons in the game), normal pistol works fine from a distance even with the enemies being in the same room as you they're almost completely deaf and don't pay attention to what is going on above or below them... Robots are easy to kill as well, you can even get behind them when they're scanning the area or take them out with a rocket. In terms of choice however, if you choose to try and collect every item just be sure to choose the GEP gun (Yeah it takes up a lot of inventory space, however it allows you to virtually blow away turrets you can't find a password for to shut.) Hacking is nice, but who was the genius that made the dumb decision to have it timed when reading the emails? (Hey, here's some important information concerning the games plot, are you a fast reader cause if not then fuck you!) Now I can understand it being timed for the terminals, but emails that vary in size? Another part that shows the mechanics flaws is where you can save JC Denton's brother, Paul. (Yeah, again it is cool that you can set L.A.M's on the wall near to the door to take out the ambush getting ready to kill Paul.) However, this moment also completely falls on its face as the very moment Paul walks out of the door of his hotel room, he turns into The Terminator, completely impervious to damage, and whilst you sit around and wallow waiting for your aiming system to kick in he takes out most of the guards by moving around constantly, almost with perfect accuracy!? (It's almost as if the game wants to mock by saying: "Ha Ha, you can only stand in front of fire to get a perfect shot, you see even though PD is supposedly INJURED on behalf of the game narrative, he's still more competent at killing than you are...) It is like the developers are saying: "You've got all these lovely choices, however these monkey tuned mechanics are staying with you..."

AlbertoBC7 Now that's a thing I can agree on, its sound-track is great, however in terms of atmosphere I'd say the music has more personality than the atmosphere of the game. (Some of the back story is good, but you don't have many civilians referencing any of it... Nor is any of the news-papers actually dated and therefore makes it harder to work out the events of what happened before Bob Page took over.) Though the game recognises your accomplishments and deeds per-se, all it does is reference them once and they're never brought up again? (Take, for example the first Unatco guard you can kill after subduing the TERRORIST, yes Manderley say's: "it is impending investigation" and yet he doesn't go along with it?) Another, part like this occurs a bit later in the game when you finish the airfield mission in NYC. ("You can kill all the guards there except for Gunther before leaving to return to Unatco.) Yet, this time Manderley says nothing to the fact that you basically just took out 12 of his men... O.K, the game recognises you for killing AN, but again it is a reference, Alex mentions it once and Gunther mentions the same line twice... The problem with Deus Ex's narrative, is that it imposes on your choices! (It is point-less, wasting the soldiers after rescuing Paul at the Hotel as the moment you die you get taken to the MJ12 section of Unatco.) At moments, despite the game allowing you to PLAY HOW YOU WANT, they're plenty of times like this that are completely on rails.

Same here, but I didn't like it :/

+AlbertoBC7 gonna replay it now since the new deus ex trailer , this game is so brilliant.

GMDX mod is apparently fantastic.

I keep hearing Invisible War sucked because it dumbed everything down and the last level was shit. And when I hear that I get the hankering to hear that precious jingle, "Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, tee hee hee"

TARINunit9 I'm a huge fan of the series and I tought Invisible War was pretty good. It's just not AS GOOD as the first one, but it's still better than that Human Revolution garbage.

Invisible War had one major drawback: One type of ammo for all ranged weapons. This means when you used up ammo for one type of weapon you could only use melee weapons. Which was quite frustrating at later levels when you encountered many heavily armed enemies that either exploded after dying or had almost no ammo upon dying. The nanosword was also nowhere near as strong as in Deus Ex 1. Not a whole lot of biomods to choose from, but some were pretty interesting, especially the black market ones. If you had electrostatic discharge for example, you could disable sensors and even bots with your sword without draining your bioenergy. So imo, not entirely a bad game.

@@DecepticonLeader The only thing that stops me from doing a third playthrough is thinking about the loading screens...

I for one loved Invisible War, because it provided the best possible ending for the entire series, the ascension of OMAR.

You're derpin out there JC.

What a shame

Oh yeah yeah

we were *based and learned Latin

@@chelonianegghead274 **we were based, gay and learned Latin

Now go watch "Waking Life", and look for familiar locations

Had a very similar revelatory experience, I live about 40 minutes east of and often find myself hanging out in Mesquite, TX, the same city OG Id Software made Doom and quake. Coincidentally Mesquite is (depending on the severity of the inevitable nightmare traffic on I-20 and 635) about 30-40 minutes east of Fort Worth, which is where Pantera formed. Here's another sligntly unrelated fun fact: Jamie Foxx grew up in the city of Terrell, TX, which is about 15 minutes West from where I live. Texas is rad. Unreasonably fuckin' huge, but rad all the same.

8bitguy is, I think, from Austin

Arkane Austin is also from there, so Texas is full of stuff. There's a reason The state is awesome

prod with the prod

Holy fuck. Between that game and X-Wing, you are not kidding. I haven't thought about those games in decades. Remember Descent? Remember how crazy that shit got from the start?

Farscryer0 Yeah Descent was my thang. Descent was actually really simple once you can wrap your head around the concept. Surprising how such a game can be played really well with just the keyboard alone. Tie Fighter had functions for virtually every key on the keyboard my goodness.

Paul Staker Yeah, the only modern game that came close to that level of complexity was Steel Battalion. That required a specialized controller that you had to sit into like a cockpit. Great for the immersion, bad for the wallet, and it would have been great had the game not been shit. Give it a few years and the Oculus Rift can bring back the glory days of flight sims and MechWarrior-esque games. I wanna use it and play the old Wing Commander games. More than that, I want Wing Commander to get a reboot. Weird how relevant its themes became in the last 10-12 years.

Farscryer0 Recently played Wing Commander 3. You'd get a headache if you stare at that resolution for 15 minutes with Oculous Rift lol. Lately there have been some space sims cropping up so I guess it's a good time to be you : )

Paul Staker Did you see the Tie Fighter animation? This one guy made an anime style battle sequence based off the game.

There is one...

+Jason Neu no

Jason Neu I don't get it?

A bomb!

...

What a shame.

A bomb's a bad choice for close range combat

A bomb.

I thougt you were a GEP gun.

A GEP gun to the head is the most silent takedown.

Slithereenn A GEP gun to the head? What a rotten way to die.

That's because Deus Ex compensates for it in every other possible way, and does so swimmingly.

I actually miss old school graphics. When designers were limited to basic graphics they spent all the more time making a game worth playing.

I replayed the whole game in 2017 and after a short adjustment at the beginning, I stopped noticing the graphics because the story and gameplay are still top notch.

@@VicariousReality Except in the swimming, ironically.

+Michael Batashov Even in the Swimming, since the Ocean Lab is based heavily around the Skill, especially if a Player wants about 250 extra SP.

daedalus? created from a crystilas, demon edge, and a recipe?

So, if John Romero ever goes back to Ion Storm he's gonna become the nanotechnological overlord of the human race?

Leonardo Santos yes

Understand, YEEEES.

It's so abandonware that it barely appears on abandonware sites

@@BoostedMonkey05 Ooh! An ancient artifact.

I also came back to watch this specifically for this quote :)

Yep, nice

Or System Shock 2. Or even the original System Shock (CD version), for that matter.

I take it you have just recently suicided after what they did with Thief.

dragonheart967 Me? Nope.

I still think that's bullshit. Drugs don't put specific thoughts into your head, and even if they did then an entire class of them giving people the specific thought is still silly. What's really happening is that while any depression patient has a very good chance of able to be cured with drugs, any given antidepressant only has at best a 50-50 chance of working for any given patient's specific chemistry. It's hit and miss, you just have to find the one (or combination of ones) that work for you. And many people that seek help do so because they're at the end of their rope and they can't take it anymore. It's help or suicide. So they just tried the help and it didn't help. Guess what happens next. No, it's not the drug doing it, it's the drug not doing anything that's doing it.

Veladus I forgot what it was you were arguing, but I just wanted to say that drugs probably don't change what you think so much as what you feel, the premise of the drug class of antidepressants and selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI). They brighten the mood and the patient has more energy, however these drugs contain the warning of suicidal ideation *because* although after 2-3 weeks of treatment it will brighten their mood, their thoughts might still be towards suicide and they may very well act on it now that they have the energy.

lol no, suicide ideation is a very real side-effect. Even when I was literally suicidal, I wasn't thinking about my own death so graphically or obsessively until I was on these meds. I didn't even really WANT to do it, it was just that whenever I got anxious, dark-ass thoughts would come down hard. Especially when I was falling asleep.

I heard from my parents about a co-worker of theirs that took anti-depressants. Apparently it caused some very strange and mysterious dreams. Depressed people need new goals, inspiration and hope to be revived again. I can imagine it's a hit or miss depending on the person.

change the color settings from 16-bit (i think it was) to 32 bit (i think it was). I originally had the same problems but once I changed that it's ran perfectly fine my last 3 playthroughs.

Tbh, it was optimized for computers from the 90s, not 2016

***** yeah, but that's why directX is a thing.

Just run deus ex with openGL, instant fps boost

***** I updated my graphics card drivers a few weeks ago, because EA wouldn't let me play the BF1 beta without the latest drivers for whatever reason, and since then deus ex, as well as the original bioshock and a handful of other older games all seem to be working MUCH better. the graphics drivers were reasonably up-to-date, and even the stock drivers on the card wouldn't be older than 2 or 3 years, so i'm not sure why a card would be having so much trouble with a title from 2000.

+Brandon Fedie guess that's not ever happening

@@BFedie518 It's been 4 years

+DungeonHax What a shame.

TheJayson8899 i want a re so fucking bad.

TheJayson8899 All you need is a DirectX10 renderer and HQ texture pack. Add these two and the game will look like it came out 2 years ago.

hristaki99 I do have them, I'm a massive fan, I'm aware, but that certainly does not make it look like it came out two years ago unless you're living in 2010. The physics need a massive update and overall the engine is extremely out of date. it needs a fully fledged update

***** Sorry, yes, I meant a remake, not an update. A fully fledged remake would be great and it makes a ton of sense as well.

Oh yeah, I fogot to mention mods as well (not that many people mod Deus Ex: everyone is probabully out modding DooM)

No worries

Am I the only one who thinks Deus Ex Human Revolution gave just as much freedom? I mean, there isn't THAT many ways to beat each level in Deus Ex 1. Usually you'd count 4 ones that didn't require insane luck, and thats if you count gunning (or dragon toothing) the entire building like Rambo (or a jedi) as a solution. HR usually had 3 or 4 as well. HR also had a better soundtrack and had a significantly more convincing world. It ended in a more satisfying way by giving a choice that while the original was grey neutral, it actually made the decision hard in HR while in the original robot fusion is plain the most obvious choice ever made. Finally, HR actually had a difficulty curve that wasn't "Nightmarish hard in a bullshit way until you get the dragon tooth sword and one shot your way to victory against enemies you couldn't possibly feel remorse for killing". The only advantage Deus Ex 1 has over HR is that melee was a thing, and your character at least starts useless like an RPG should.

Are you taking the *PISS*??!! Human revolution COMES NOWHERE *NEAR* the depth as the original. You shouldn't rely on luck, because I've beat the game using only the crossbow ON MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH. HR has a better soundtrack?? Ok now you're just trolling. While it is good, there is NO WAY it can match to the original Deus Ex. Better ending. Of course, choosing an ending which says push one of 3 buttons to decide whoch diologe should speek over the SAME backdrop. While Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a great Deus Ex game, it could *NEVER* hope to match the complexity of Deus Ex.

Zelousmarineinspace Firstly, the backdrop did change. Secondly, Deus Ex 1 has about 1 good track, and the rest are awful. It isn't even a good soundtrack. Human Revolution has a god damn fantastic soundtrack, but it wouldn't even need to be that good to be better then Deus Ex 1.

AND FIGHT SOME CONSPIRACIES

GET EXPERIENCE

AND LEVEL UP ABILITIES

WILL YOU PICK RIFLES

OR COMPUTERS?

In the director's cut they added in ways to kill bosses by hacking and stealth if you rank in them enough

Cause the bosses got out sourced to a dev company who didn't know hack shit about good games. not exactly old news, seriously research.

Before they released directors cut it made me to invest into that rocket barrage tech. Because it was pain in the ass.

Yeah but it has to be at "Master" if you want to do that, which will cost about 4600 SP to get there.

It's "Laputan Machine" A reference to the book Gulliver's Travels

Yeah, its is. My bad. But, you get the idea. :P

Zelnyair funny coincidence

Zelnyair Laputa, as a name, is actually older than Spanish.

Sure it does. But before it ever meant that, it was the name of a mythical floating island in the sky.

Deus Ex looks great! Even without mods.

+umbrela347 Its not deep... Its broken! You want depth in an RPG that isn't just some clunky mess? Then I suggest you play the original Fallout by Interplay.

HA! You lose! No likes for you!

jew sex

Sex with a shapeshifting cyborg blonde girl. Nearly as good as Deus Ex!

DrSaering That sounds fucking awesome

DrSaering Vacuum cleaner with a puffer fish on the end.

raulprima Very unsatisfying.

Zero Punctuation more like Zero Pronounciation.

The Bosh TURN OFF THE DAMN CAMERA.

Revision is atrocious and not even close to a remake.

***** Revision is fairly frequently being patched and upgraded. I've seen one person play it on RU-vid, and it is vastly different to the experience I have played. The visual upgrade is minimal, but the gameplay upgrade, along with maps is much better.

***** New players I think. The mod received a lot of backlash from Deus Ex fans at release. Most of all, it completely ruined the chance of us getting a proper Deus Ex remaster by Eidos which pisses me off.

TWB If not better with graphical updates.

I recommend installing GMDX v8.0 mod, it fixes little bits, has HDTP and New Vision graphical upgrades and pieces and adds some new stuff (mantling, visible weapon mods, some aug rework etc.)

That's more in line with RPG mechanics, though.

and not one of you get the reference, huh?

kellen liame The Simpsons?

Couldn't be much farther from being right. Sat it again in a grizzled depressed voice

I get the reference. It's Adam from the new one.

Finley Turner ding ding ding ding ding ding! i raise a glass of my finest wine to you sir!

+Pylon Jumper 2002 2 more words: is shit. one more abbreviation: GMDX

+Pylon Jumper 2002 deus ex the mother and father

+Pylon Jumper 2002 I tried it and was... kinda disappointed.

Three words: Absolute fucking garbage

I'm going to guess you're under 30. Yes if you weren't alive or too young to remember I get it, 9/11 doesn't matter. Just like it's a big meh about Pearl Harbor.

Yes, I do. I'm sure hundreds of people who's relatives died during it sure do. Just because it's not talked about anymore doesn't mean people still aren't hurting from it. And even in a couple of decades, I bet it will still be considered a day of mourning. It was an act of mass murder, countless people died. True, we should work to move past it, but we shouldn't ever diminish the event because to do such would be lessening all of the lives lost.

Anthony Clay Again you have to remember there's people in their 20s now he were too young to know about 9/11. They're just not going to care like someone who lost someone or was old enough to understand what was happening. I'll never forget because I was buying a TV that morning and watching 100s of TVs constantly show that plane slamming into the building was surreal.

Darkstar im with you, Funny really. When after that the US/EU went into Iraq/Afganistan and killed a shit load more civilians that were killed in the Attack on the Twin Towers.

Rathelm MC Age shouldn't matter. I wasn't born when Pearl Harbor happened, but I don't say "Who cares? Only old people care about that."

Personally, I lean the other way. Never got into SS2, yet I played hundreds of hours of Deus Ex.

i like half life but it wasnt as free form as deus ex nor as open. in fact the first level of deus ex blows anything half life had to offer

pyroneutral a game doesn't need to be "free form" or "open" to be good, as evidenced on Half-life, the Greatest PC Game of All Time. Half-Life delivers its narrative with excellent pacing that never seems jilted, strange or at all convoluted, unlike every deus ex game made. The problem with deus ex, the same problem many "open" games fall prey to is that they are too reliant on being "open". Game mechanics, graphics, art, sound design, music, level design, animation, etc. all suffer because this game has to be "open". It's ridiculous and merely praising a game because it's "open" and may offer more than one style of play (deus ex claims to but seriously punishes open combat styles of play) but sucks otherwise isn't at all realistic.

You heard that phrase wrong.@1:15"Popularly considered the greatest PC game of all time." HL1 was released in 1998 and didn't have far as much complexity as Deus Ex did, though it did have great depth and was/is considered with similar reverence popularly. I even feel so. I put them in the same pedestal Nice try though

***** I see what you did there (re: "on" and "in"). Please be aware some of us are replying via cell phones which fall prey to "predictive text". I appreciate the praise ("nice try"). It's not necessary, however; being correct is its own reward. Being "open" isn't immediately analogous to being "good" or "fun" or even "unique". I'm tired of people attempting to make this connection. Some "open" games (shooters) truly use the game mechanic to bolster many design facets of the game (Fallout 3, GTA IV, GTA V, Dishonored, etc.) but unfortunately many use it as an excuse to prop up a game that has too many problems otherwise. I'm tired of poor game mechanics and design laziness being excused because "hurrrr, it's 'open'". Too many modern games fall into this trap (Far Cry 3, new Thief, new deus ex, etc.). I'm tired of bountiful excuses being made for boring, repetitive games in the sake of promoting "open". Focus on the mechanics and basics first. Then, and ONLY then, think about making the game "open".

hikeskool Since you are clearly wearing your bias on your sleeve I'm going to enjoy bursting your little bubble. Speaking as someone who played Half-Life for the first time two years ago it has aged about as well as milk. There is nothing sacred about old games, they are just old. The Beatles is not the greatest rock band ever, and Half-Life isn't the best PC game ever. Were they pioneers that revolutionized the field in their day? Yes. Can they still be enjoyable in the right mindset? Yes. Have others come along and since done the same thing but better? Yes. Nostalgia goggles are a bitch I know; I am still convinced Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time is the best game ever, even though objectively I know I am wrong; but they are no excuse to be a twat.

Tom Snider That makes me number 2 then. Deus Ex 1 was a 9.5/10 for me, Invisible war was probably a 8/10. Still have not played the new one yet but I just bought it on a cheap ass deal.

Tom Snider I wanted to enjoy it. Then the club owner asked the teenage looking girl he's never met or heard about to go kill a lawyer and not tell anyone about it, and I was being nagged by a girl I barely knew to join a crazy cult because the government has scientists watching the subjects with experimental augmentations.

Tom Snider I liked it too! It was no where near as great but it was fun to play!