Diana's Shine vs. Charles's Struggle | The Crown (Josh O'Connor, Emma Corrin) 

Yes he should have, and I can also see how humiliating it is for an entire crowd of people openly act disappointed to see you

I think it’s because he was/is charmless.

I can understand him, wife is not supposed to be more better than husband

​@@IamtheMan1111 what 😂 stupid

@@IamtheMan1111Jackie Kennedy got more attention than Jack Kennedy when he was president and he was very aware of it. Jack Kennedy even made a good natured comment about it once or twice in speeches he made. And he wasn’t jealous of his wife. In fact, he was proud of the fact that his wife got so much attention. He saw it as an advantage and positive thing. Because that is what husbands should do, NOT see it as a sign to compete with their wives; that is creepy-trying to compete with your wife!

@@IamtheMan1111Your wife is not your adversary. If she gets more attention, you should think it as a golden opportunity and use it to your greatest advantage, not be disgruntled and be petty about it. That’s both unwise and immature.

why would it be creepy lol

*"I do not think it inappropriate to introduce myself. I am the man who accompanied Jaqueline Kennedy to Paris, and I have enjoyed it!"* is what he said after she took Paris by storm. He didn't even say his own name--the POTUS--but said her first and last He LOVED it. He loved who Jackie leveled up the Kennedys. He was so proud of her, he started learning about designers and when Princess Grace visited he leaned over and asked her "is that Givenchy?" about her outfit. They thought people were going to see Jackie as an inapproachable snob who they couldn't relate to so they would keep her in the back while he was campaigning so she wouldn't be him look "too rich and aristocratic" OF course, we know he slept anything with a hole in it but he learned that doggish way from his whoremongering dad. But towards the end of his life, he was reforming and even one of his mistresses said he'd stopped shagging her and told her he was "trying to behave" By that time he'd finally fallen in love with his wife and knew what he had, that's why the assassination hit so hard for her too.

And I think the RF was so jealous of Di b/c they were nothing but ugly, big-eared, in-bred nobodies without those titles. They're a bunch of failures who can't succeed at anything without their titles b/c nobody is interested (like Edward's "film career"). Anne gets praised b/c she shakes hands 400 times more a year than the others. Big. Woop. They're socially awkward and weird and unrelatable (look at the documentary Elizabeth at 90 as they watch the home movies. They laugh at stuff that's not funny and it's just strange how they act--I can't put my finger on it--but "out of touch" is what I sum it up as). Who in THE HELL would've screwed Prince Charles if he was Charles Smith? They get so scared and jealous whenever someone new marries in b/c they're so scared she's going to be the next Diana and that's the only time people have interest in them--when an outsider comes in because they are BORING! They are screwed if Catherine kicks the bucket. It's going to be the dead years, like 1998-2010 before Kate came along.

they didn't boo him though. Jacie's popularity made John more popular. Diana positioned herself as a foil to Charles, making him and his family less popular as her star rose.

Kennedy understood that his wife's popularity was also his own advantage - secret weapon. Charles was way too insecure to use Diana the same way.

The bigger picture is that they are supposed to be a family. There's no her or him in a family. It's all of the members of a family together. Something Charles failed to see. He didn't see Diana's success as his own. He saw her as an obstacle. He called her selfish or an attention seeker. But as someone who was way too kind before....even if you give the whole world to them, they're still going to call you selfish and an attention seeker.

The thing is had Charles stayed with Diana the queen probably would have stepped down!!

Considering half of the people were booing him already, yet fawning over his wife, basically just saying "Okay then" wouldn't do him favours

Now Charles really does have a bigger picture and it’s being compared to a Ghostbusters character. We all knew when the Queen died she took the monarchy with her.

He was not. She was not supposed to overshadow him. It is not proper protocol. She was nothing but a dressmaker's dummy.

So much it hurt

@@tessdurberville711​​⁠Jackie Kennedy got more attention than Jack Kennedy when he was president and he was very aware of it. Jack Kennedy even made a good natured comment about it once or twice in speeches he made. And he wasn’t jealous of his wife. In fact, he was proud of the fact that his wife got so much attention. He saw it as an advantage and positive thing. Because that is what husband’s should do, NOT see it as a sign to compete with their wives; that is creepy-trying to compete with your wife!

​@@tessdurberville711it's not hard to outshine someone that's as dull as Charles seriously he has no charisma at all he seems spoiled and bratty whining about how it's not fair , he darn well reminds me of a less cruel joffery from games of throne.

​@@LivingforJesusMotherof2 really joffrey

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Especially when they're holding up a sign that says, "Jug Ears." 👂😆

Because Charles lives in a sheltered upper-class life where playing polo is popular. To him being good at the sports means something to others they don't care. He is out of touch.

​@@AB-zl4nhDiana was upper-class too 🤣

While I agree that sentiment to be true, William and Charles don’t exactly have the same history of how they are raised. William had a level of stability and love from his mother, it provides a degree of self confidence and worth. Diana at least let her kids know they’re worth it. Charles was sent away to attend school, bullied and lonely and had parents who were either not really there or thought he wasn’t worth it. So Charles lacks that kind of stable self confidence to be okay with someone else having a greater lime light. This is why how you raise your children and provide for them emotionally is important. Diana and Charles, despite their marital problems, at least did it better to their kids than Elizabeth II and Phillip did with Charles.

@@CaptainPikeachu That's so spot on! It was Charles insecurity that forbid him to use Diana's pupularity as his own tool. William beams with pride seeing Catherine cherished by the crowds. That's the difference healthy and warm upringing gives to an adult.

The difference is Will and Catherine are, and always have been a united front. Neither would upstage the other. Diana didn't care if she upstaged Charles or not

@@xolg3292 not you writing this while Kate has been missing for +100 days and William couldn't care less... Also, last couple of times we saw them together William cringed hard at Kate trying to touch him. But yeah, of course, "united front"...

Girl, what? Kate is missing. What are you talking about them example? William is having affair.

She was shallow and vain and foolish.

​@@tessdurberville711 She was acting her age then.

@@tessdurberville711not an excuse to bash your wife. “Would be easier with 2” meaning cowmilla. Charles showed his colours as the whinging baby he is. Grown arse 30+ man pouting over just hit 20s wife

​@WakaWaka-jx9blfor us she is everything and camilla is nothing and she is nothing too..😅😅

@WakaWaka-jx9bl for us camilla isn't a queen understand..🙂🙃

@WakaWaka-jx9bl what what means why?

@WakaWaka-jx9bl why?

Diana was strategic in how she upstaged Charles. And Palace courtiers dismissed her as an intellectual lightweight. 👎🏾Diana didn’t deserve to be labeled a dimwit.

Did you ever see the real thing b/c it's misrepresented here. There was no awkward silence and grumbling when he gave the "behind your back" comment. Everyone laughed. It was hilarious! I was alive during this time, and I thought they'd staged it b/c how could he know what she was doing behind his back, but she made the face, they laughed, he knew something was up and he came back with a witty retort. I REALLY thought they'd staged the whole thing b/c they looked like a 1-2 comedy act with him playing the straight man. The timing was just so perfect. They seemed so in sync in the beginning. I had no idea he would have a problem with her bc she was making him look GOOD! She was elevating his game! They couldn't see that though. Idiots.

@@ilovebeinagirl no I don’t think I have, I’ll have to go looking for it at some point

​@@DVPerry220So you're basically admitting she was intentionally undermining him?

@@xolg3292it’s called being way more intelligent than your opponent. Charles lacks emotional maturity.

yeah, but i think Diana also craved the public’s approval. The royal family were dismissive of her, Charles preferred his mistress, so Diana searched for love and attention somewhere else.

and those people genuinely loved her ​@@kanejtrash5019

In his eyes, he was never in the spotlight. On the contrary, he felt completely invisible. In the show, his father bullied him and treated him like an idiot from a very young age. His mother behaved like a sphynx. The only positive relationships he had were with his great-uncle and his sister. Diana here was moved by good intentions, but as a couple, she was the worst match he could possibly end up with, as she was a catalyst for everybody's attention (something that Charles longed for).

It was the fact she was upstaging him. At the end of the day, he is the Heir to the throne, she is his consort. Either they're equals, or he's at the front. Simples

@@xolg3292 She couldn’t help that people found her more charming/interesting. So. People didn’t feel that way about him and that’s not her fault. Simples.

The real Diana was kinda nasty. No wonder he went back to Camilla.

she wanted to be a fairytale princess.

I mean she's not helping his case

Had I been in Diana's shoes, I'd have replied to him here : "It's not me who is too good, it's you who is not good enough."

I hope you are joking.

Not part of this scene, so off-topic

Oh give over

Let me debunk this point by point, - in Paris, they follow the strategy of stopping the ambulance to provide stabilisation to victims, they don't perform those actions while the ambulance is in motion. The reason it took over 45 minutes was because she kept getting worse, since she was bleeding internally, and every time she went into cardiac arrest or stopped breathing the ambulance also had to stop so the EMTs could stabilise her again. - Cars are designed to crumple on impact, because of physics. - Her driver didnt know he would be driving them again that night and had been drinking- he was THREE TIMES over the french limit, which is already a higher allowance than in the UK or the states. He was hammered and in no position to be driving at all. - She was operated on and because she broke her femur her femoral artery was severed, Being desperate to find the bleed and stop it they did have to open her up and remove bone fragments etc- its nothing unusual in trauma surgery, and if they hadnt THAT would have been very strange indeed. It isnt a grand conspiracy, she was in the wrong place with the wrong person and when the driver decided he would try to outpace the papparazi he went way too fucking fast in that tunnel. She may have been an icon, a beacon, a symbol, but she was still a woman of flesh and blood who couldnt overcome the trauma of that crash. to imply anything else is an insult to her memory. Enough horrid calculated things happened to her in life to get on with, without resorting to conspiracies surrounding her death.

Quite apart from the conspiracy theories about Diana, thinking crumple zones are a conspiracy is a new one.

Diana was no commoner; she is from the Spencer family, one of the great aristocratic houses of the UK.

She still was a Lady and had a minor title without him. Having a good heart and helping is more important and valuable than anything he or the Queen gave her as far as a title.

@@heresqueenie Exactly. A minor title, yet not a Princess.

​@@heresqueenie Who did she ever help before she was a working royal? Who was she helping in those 5 weeks before she died?

@@thevenusian1314 Who cares? Charles still could have been nicer to her and not get jealous that people loved her so much.

@@someone3187 Consequently she could have also stopped being overly emotional, irrational and a petulant child. Never complain, never explain.